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May 28, 2008 6:16 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Quote of the episode: "Even if the whole universe were my enemy Kircheis would still be my friend."

It doesn't look like they're on the best of terms now. Reinhard looks to be getting leaning more on his evil side. As expected, Oberstein is a very smart and calculating man but it seems Reinhard finds it difficult to ignore some of his harsh advice. He should've explained the full story to Siegfried instead of shouldering all the blame. His first reaction was to save the 2 million people. Although he was tempted, he reserved the option not to go with Oberstein's plan 100%.

Good cliffhanger at the end. Ansbach wasn't kidding when he said he'd be gunning for Reinhard even after Otto's death.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
Jun 12, 2008 5:42 AM
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I don't think speed will be a problem, but can Kircheis stop an entire rocket 100%?

This seems like the end of the first season.

4/5
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Jun 12, 2008 7:06 PM
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I think Oberstien has some plans of his own...

PS ... WTF is with that ending



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Jan 20, 2009 8:38 AM
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WHAT THE HELL KIND OF CLIFFHANGER WAS THAT?

Ok, Reinhard isnt going to die that easily, but still. Dont tease us like that damnit.

Quite a few flashbacks, but understandable given the length of the series and at least it wasnt a total recap episode.
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Jan 20, 2009 11:13 AM
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i hate this episode
Aug 5, 2009 2:50 PM
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Good episode, except for the flashbacks, good thing it wasn't an entire clip show.

Oh and Cliffhanger alert!
Aug 6, 2009 5:15 PM
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Whoa... wasn't expecting that sneak attack on Reinhard, and to put that into a cliffhanger? What the heck.

Yeah, sounds like Siegfried and Reinhard aren't on the best of terms as of late. Reinhard knows damned well that Siegfried's his best friend, and yet he didn't fully explain himself for what took place. Oberstein was at the center of this in an otherwise brilliant way, taking the necessary measures to ensure his plan would work by lying to Reinhard about the time of the nuclear strikes.
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Sep 12, 2009 6:05 PM
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Seriously is the security that bad in the future? Anyways good episode, exicted to see what happens, hopefully nothing shitty...>.>
Sep 13, 2009 1:26 AM
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Son of a b*tch! We got incoming! INCOMING!
Nov 12, 2009 3:51 PM

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I'm hoping that Kircheis leaping in front (presumably) will snap Reinhard back to his senses and remind him who his true friends are, but we have had a lot of foreshadowing that he would abandon Kircheis and the honest righteousness he represents. I hope he doesn't become a monster just yet.
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Nov 29, 2009 12:14 PM

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Holy crap, that cliffhanger! Reinhard and Kircheis seem to be drifting apart more and more, I don't like that. o_O
edit: Woah, I definitely do not want to believe what was in the preview for the next episode!
Nov 29, 2009 12:17 PM

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Holy crap, that cliffhanger! Reinhard and Kircheis seem to be drifting apart more and more, I don't like that. o_O
edit: Woah, I definitely do not want to believe what was in the preview for the next episode!


Why do people still in this day and age watch previews? WHY!?

Whether they're accurate or misleading, previews always suck! Avoid!
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Nov 29, 2009 12:44 PM

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yeah previews suck...u should avoid them at all cost...
Nov 29, 2009 12:50 PM

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Beatnik said:
Why do people still in this day and age watch previews? WHY!?

Whether they're accurate or misleading, previews always suck! Avoid!
I just watch them to get an idea what to expect in the next episode. They usually don't contain spoilers like this, especially not this clear. Well, I'm going to avoid the previews for the rest of this anime, that's for sure.
Jan 1, 2010 8:47 AM

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So now we are really starting to see where Reinhard is starting to get a little corrupt with power and position, doing anything to make his own personal gains. He hasn't completely converted but Oberstein is trying to see to that.

Now I have to watch the next episode even though I'm pretty sure Reinhard won't die.
May 17, 2010 6:26 AM

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Bland episode except for the ending. Who would have thought to hide a flamethrower/rocket launcher inside a body?
Jun 19, 2010 3:30 PM

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The Empire's shipyard at the start of the episode was really cool.

He doesn't need a number two… then ditch Oberstein for gods sakes.

BEGINNER
Jul 20, 2010 11:04 PM

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It's sad to see the relationship of Reinhard and Kircheis to get ruined like this. But I must say that Oberstein is one of the most brilliant characters in the whole series.
Sep 4, 2010 5:09 PM

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that's why spoilers suck :\
and the preview gave it all away lol

great episode


5/5
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Sep 5, 2010 1:19 AM
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clannad4ever said:
that's why spoilers suck :
and the preview gave it all away lol

great episode


5/5


Yeah, that's the thing about the show, NEVER watch the episode previews. LOGH has some of the worst episode previews in anime history, heh.
Nov 20, 2010 5:59 PM

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Flashback episode?
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Nov 28, 2010 3:10 AM

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WTH IS WITH THIS CLIFFHANGER!?

Finally, LoGH is making me watch it continuously.
Mar 23, 2011 4:48 PM
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cliffhanger!!!11 O_o
Aug 3, 2011 7:19 PM
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Security does seem to suck. For having some future tech like space battleships you'd think they'd have something that can detect a rocket launcher!
Sep 1, 2011 7:28 PM
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It's cool to see how clearly the characters' thought processes are. Reinhard consults his various advisors (Annerose, Kircheis, Oberstein) on the position of Sieg relative to him. Kircheis draws on memories to redetermine how certain his loyalty should be. Reuenthal judges how much a No. 2 means to him, perhaps how much ambition he'll allow himself.

Grisle said:
Security does seem to suck. For having some future tech like space battleships you'd think they'd have something that can detect a rocket launcher!
Yeah really. I think the launcher was hidden in Prince's gut though. Maybe the walls of flesh threw off sensor, or it was inside a lead box inside the body. Creepy way to assassinate.
Oct 15, 2011 10:49 PM

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God damn preview, wish I didn't see that. I will now try and avoid previews forever. Anyway, pretty boring episode. I'm not the biggest fan of flashbacks.
Oct 24, 2011 12:08 AM

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Oh god

Break yourself
Dec 16, 2011 6:31 PM

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Oh my gawd what.
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Feb 7, 2012 12:29 PM

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NOOOOOOO!!

THIS CAN'T HAPPEN TO REINHEARTO-SAMAA!
Even though I've already been spoiled. :/

5/5 for this episode. I really enjoyed and it wasn't that heavy on flashbacks (which I was really needing).
Feb 8, 2012 6:46 AM
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5/5.
This was a great episode.
It showed us how beautiful Reinhard and Kircheis' friendship is and how it remains strong, even though we can clearly see how their friendship seems to be deteriorating, they still trust each other and they will trust each for ever.
Reinhard: Even if the whole universe were my enemy, Kircheis would still be my friend.
Kircheis: Sooner or later, Reinhard-sama will understand.
Those 2 phrases were so powerful and so so beautiful.

That cliffhanger made me want to hut someone badly though.
Apr 16, 2012 7:54 PM

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Well, I'm never watching previews for this series again.

I love the irony and hypocrisy of Oberstein warning against Reinhard having a second-in-command, and then walking and standing by Reinhard's side.
Apr 16, 2012 8:16 PM
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Well, I'm never watching previews for this series again.

I love the irony and hypocrisy of Oberstein warning against Reinhard having a second-in-command, and then walking and standing by Reinhard's side.

This series should have s disclaimer for all first-time watchers of the show: Never watch episode previews.
May 13, 2012 8:05 PM

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DAMN! That cliffhanger
Jun 7, 2012 6:37 AM

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I am seriously SO GLAD I never watch next-episode previews.

I love how we see Reinhard's and Kircheis' relationship begin to develop a bit more here -- friends do have misunderstandings, and that brings them even closer once they've reconciled their differences. Though I am a bit upset that Reinhard didn't fully explain to Kirchies what had happened with Oberstein and the whole nuclear escapade.

The character development in this series blows me away, and we finally have our first cliff-hanger. Looks as if I'm not getting any sleep! Onto episode 26!
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Jun 24, 2012 8:14 AM
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I hope that the attack kills Oberstein instead instead of Reinhard because Oberstein is a gigantic dick.
Jul 30, 2012 11:28 PM

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what the FUCK just happened
Oct 6, 2012 10:20 PM

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WOOOOOOOOOW FUCKING ROCKET LAUNCHER OUT OF THE PRINCE'S CHEST
Jul 25, 2013 9:59 PM

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This is a bit sad, Reinhard and Kircheis' personal friend relationship may have to change.

ahh...that's why that guy took Braunschweig to the infirmary, good cliffhanger.
Sep 12, 2013 6:20 PM

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No one in the room is packing heat so Reinhard won't be able to survive this situation. His life flashed before our eyes in this episode.

At least we got to hear him fall on a piano once more.
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Even if I don't watch the preview, I get spoiled by the people in the episode discussion. >>

Reinhard shouldn't trust Oberstein. He's too cunning! Kircheis will restore his friendship with Reinhard, I'm sure. Otherwise I'd enjoy the Empire's side less than I should. Or I can watch Oberstein overthrow Reinhard. Who knows. I think Kircheis proves to be a good restraint for Reinhard to keep him on his path and to stay true to his values. He needs to stay.

And here I was, wondering why he was opening the Prince... I thought he was going to present Reinhard with his heart or something. I love how nobody reacted to him opening the coffin and his body. If only Kircheis had his gun?
Jan 3, 2014 9:08 AM

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I was so bothered by how much the animation changed, especially Kircheis' eyes. Is it just because it was a lazy flashback episode with hardly any new animation?
Feb 21, 2014 11:51 AM
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That meeting between Kircheis and Lohengramm was really really intense.
I sense that many things from this point forward will not bode well.

That ending though, it was so sudden. GAhhhh.
Apr 10, 2014 8:39 AM

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I never watch previews, spoilers are a big reason why.

However I also don't go to the current episode discussion thread, since even if its not filled with spoilers, you fools discuss the spoilers in an episode preview. Because of that I always have to watch ahead before reading previous discussion threads.
May 11, 2014 3:37 AM

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I knew something was up when Ansbach had Braunsweig taken to the infirmary. I was thinking though that he gave him a sedative instead of poison to keep him alive not a rocket launcher hidden in his body.
I don't particularly like Lohengramm so hopefully he's dead or incapacitated for awhile.
Jun 2, 2014 7:17 PM

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Oh, cliffhanger ending. Almost makes up for the large amount of unnecessary flashbacks in this episode. Seriously though, did we really need to see an uncut version of the nuke incident again?

Best episode preview ever by the way. Would've been pissed expect I've already been spoiled on it.
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Jun 30, 2014 12:58 AM

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lol wut rocket launcher hidden in the stomach
hardcore lmao

this episode was meh. Just a bunch of recaps disguised as self reflection by Reinhard/Siegfried. I think Siegfried is making a terrible miscalculation that someday Reinhard will understand.
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Sep 24, 2014 7:50 PM

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I knew something was amiss.
Sep 25, 2014 11:55 PM

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OMG That preview at the end............toally not a spoiler....-.-

SHEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!! Don't die Siegfried!! You are my faviourite character!! GTFO Oberstein...You don't understand Reinhard and Siegfried...
Oct 31, 2014 6:35 PM

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Too many flashbacks this episode >_>

Oberstein continues to be a douche trying to break Reinhard and Siegfried's good friendship.
Feb 10, 2015 9:11 AM

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why did the art style change in this episode? It looks terrible
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