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Apr 25, 2022 5:18 PM
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Let's take a trip down memory lane and remember some of the terminology that was widely used in anime fandom once upon a time but is either forgotten or considered cringey these days. First off, probably the most famous, though before my time, is "Japanimation". Yep, before "anime" really took off as the word for Japanese animation, many people called it "Japanimation". Before there was an anime section, if you wanted to buy or rent anime, you had to look in the Japanimation section at your local Suncoast. The term fell out of use in the late 90s, but I've actually heard someone use the word as recently as 2009. "Bishie" is another one mostly used by female anime fans. Short for "bishounen", it could mean just any hot anime guy, or "your bishie" could refer to a guy one was attracted to. Since then "ikemen" has replaced the former definition and "husbando" the latter definition, though curiously "bishie" actually predates the word "waifu" by quite a few years. Heck, "bishounen" has also fallen out of use in favor of ikemen. In Japanese it's mainly used to refer to otokonoko sort of things nowadays. "Glomp", a word originating in the Ranma 1/2 manga, essentially a flying tackle hug. The act has been banned at conventions since the late 2000s due to safety and harassment concerns, likely leading to the death of the term, but I haven't really seen the act done in recent anime either. "Otaku", while nowadays referring to a specific type of obsessive fan like it does in Japan, was pretty much used to mean any anime fan in the west. While I still see it used this way occasionally, "weeb" seems to be the more popular term. "Shojo Ai" and "Shonen ai", back in the day referred to yuri or BL without any sexuality. Nowadays more people know that "yuri" refers to any girl/girl romance, and that "BL" is the general word used to refer to all boy/boy works. I still occasionally see some people use the latter term, even though the word refers to some... not so savory things in Japanese. "Gar", a male character who is so manly and badass that even straight guys might go "Stupid Sexy Flanders". I don't see it used much anymore, and when I do, people ask what the fuck it means. Anyone remember any more words you don't hear about all that often these days? |
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Apr 25, 2022 5:31 PM
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Haruhism or Haruhi franchise is much forgotten now this days |
Apr 25, 2022 5:43 PM
#4
If there’s one word I’d like the community to fall out with, that’d be “mid” |
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Apr 25, 2022 5:54 PM
#5
I think shoujo/shounen ai is still fairly common. Or at least I see the former fairly often. |
Apr 25, 2022 5:57 PM
#6
My friends and I still say bishie lol, i just like the word |
Apr 25, 2022 6:42 PM
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Apr 25, 2022 7:41 PM
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kycnui said: deg said: Endless 8 ruined that franchise to the ground. The only good thing is only a few people know and much fewer remember the masterpiece that follows it. Haruhism or Haruhi franchise is much forgotten now this days Also the Hare Hare dance in every anime convention or meeting. The leets can't stand their anime being taken by the narutards. |
Apr 25, 2022 7:47 PM
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_cjessop19_ said: same its so overused and annoying wish it would leave already If there’s one word I’d like the community to fall out with, that’d be “mid” |
Apr 25, 2022 7:47 PM
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Half of the words you mentioned, I didn't even know they existed. And I watched anime for 16 years lol. Guess this stuff is even older than that...lmao kycnui said: deg said: Endless 8 ruined that franchise to the ground. The only good thing is only a few people know and much fewer remember the masterpiece that follows it. Haruhism or Haruhi franchise is much forgotten now this days *lick* This is the taste of...weakness. |
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Apr 25, 2022 7:54 PM
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HeruruMeruru said: Anyone remember any more words you don't hear about all that often these days? There is a phrase I heard from you, and only you. I don't need to know what it means. yaoi paddle |
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Apr 25, 2022 9:04 PM
#12
Lucifrost said: HeruruMeruru said: Anyone remember any more words you don't hear about all that often these days? There is a phrase I heard from you, and only you. I don't need to know what it means. yaoi paddle Well this does a better job explaining this dark point of history than I ever could: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Yaoi_Paddle Naturally these were often accompanied by glomping, and both were banned around the same time. |
Apr 25, 2022 9:09 PM
#13
HeruruMeruru said: Lucifrost said: HeruruMeruru said: Anyone remember any more words you don't hear about all that often these days? There is a phrase I heard from you, and only you. I don't need to know what it means. yaoi paddle Well this does a better job explaining this dark point of history than I ever could: https://fanlore.org/wiki/Yaoi_Paddle Naturally these were often accompanied by glomping, and both were banned around the same time. Allegedly someone had their pelvis shattered by a yaoi paddle at a convention, and glomping started falling under the umbrella of assault. |
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Apr 25, 2022 9:13 PM
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Lucifrost said: HeruruMeruru said: Anyone remember any more words you don't hear about all that often these days? There is a phrase I heard from you, and only you. I don't need to know what it means. yaoi paddle You beat me to it and maybe I should be thankful.... I’m not a particularly old anime fan, but I do know all of these words. Maybe I’m just out of touch, I don’t know. |
Apr 25, 2022 9:15 PM
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I've been seeing some people replace the word "weeb" with "incel." Which just seems like people getting more extreme with their insults and dumbing down the meaning of words at the same time. |
Apr 25, 2022 9:16 PM
#16
I miss the yaoi paddles. It was the rise of the tumblr/twitter generation that got them banned. No fun allowed. |
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Apr 25, 2022 9:39 PM
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You've re-invited the word glomp into my memory and that is a sin for which you will not be forgiven. Thankfully "otaku" is going out of fashion. I've openly shared my annoyance with westerners using the word otaku mostly for the irony embedded in the reasons most of them prefer to use it. Hard to think of other examples, but it is less common for people to interject random Japanese (read: kawaii), and if they do it is more obvious they are likely preteens whereas before they could've easily been 30. |
Apr 25, 2022 9:51 PM
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Ah yes, I remember using the word "Japanimation". |
Apr 25, 2022 10:29 PM
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Apr 25, 2022 11:05 PM
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_cjessop19_ said: If there’s one word I’d like the community to fall out with, that’d be “mid” I want that term to vanish off the face of the earth as soon as possible. I hate it so much I'd rather eat deep-fried cockroach soup from a bowl of skin than have it exist. Edit: Also the term "peak fiction" (had multiple aneurysms typing that) Edit: AND "dOwN bAd" (had a stroke typing that) |
TheAngryNerdApr 28, 2022 4:55 PM
Apr 25, 2022 11:10 PM
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Bishie I see used quite a bit even now. I mean I use husbando when referring to my favourite male characters. However if I'm crushing on a male characters, even if he's not my favourite I'll still call him bishie, ifvI find him attractive enough. Otaku is considered even now insulting, at least in Japan (like geek or dork). Weeb is insulting in the western world, as far as I know. I don't mind being called an otaku, but I would pile drive the person who calls me a weeb. I may love japanese culture and some of it's subcultures. However I wouldn't say "I'd prefer to be a japanese citizen, in stead of what I am". |
Apr 26, 2022 12:00 AM
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asiank0ala said: HeruruMeruru said: "Gar", a male character who is manly and badass but also virtuous and kind. I rarely see it used nowadays and when I do people ask what the fuck it means. since when did Gar mean "virtuous and kind" lmfao I've had people insist that being admirable and heroic is a part of what makes a character "GAR" as opposed to just a regular badass, but if I'm wrong I apologize. I guess that would be one term that I've forgotten. |
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Apr 26, 2022 12:12 AM
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asiank0ala said: HeruruMeruru said: "Gar", a male character who is manly and badass but also virtuous and kind. I rarely see it used nowadays and when I do people ask what the fuck it means. since when did Gar mean "virtuous and kind" lmfao “In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.” |
Apr 26, 2022 12:14 AM
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I think the term "Ghibli" is falling out of fashion too While it worked at a time when Disney stopped making 2d animated movies and everyone shifted to Ghibili movies as their spiritual successor, especially in the 2000s, the rise of other directors and animation studios in cinema productions made the studio less relevant. |
Apr 26, 2022 12:14 AM
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Eroge is one that I can think of. Nowadays people just say dating sim/visual novel, if they use eroge it's probably in reference to older adult visual novels from the 90s & 2000s. |
Apr 26, 2022 2:12 AM
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_cjessop19_ said: I guess you could say that that word is pretty mid.If there’s one word I’d like the community to fall out with, that’d be “mid” |
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Apr 26, 2022 4:56 AM
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_cjessop19_ said: If there’s one word I’d like the community to fall out with, that’d be “mid” they forgot the word "elitist" within a few months, you don't have to worry. Lucifrost said: HeruruMeruru said: Anyone remember any more words you don't hear about all that often these days? There is a phrase I heard from you, and only you. I don't need to know what it means. yaoi paddle last time I mentioned it, I was met with complete disbelief. I saw them irl though at animecons. |
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Apr 26, 2022 5:51 AM
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Apr 26, 2022 6:12 AM
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TheFireNinja said: I've been seeing some people replace the word "weeb" with "incel." Which just seems like people getting more extreme with their insults and dumbing down the meaning of words at the same time. In my head, "weeb" is similar to "nerd" or "otaku", whereas "incel" implies a degree of misogyny not normally found with those other types (though it's possible for a person to be both). |
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Apr 26, 2022 7:09 AM
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HeruruMeruru said: First off, probably the most famous, though before my time, is "Japanimation". Yep, before "anime" really took off as the word for Japanese animation, many people called it "Japanimation". Before there was an anime section, if you wanted to buy or rent anime, you had to look in the Japanimation section at your local Suncoast. The term fell out of use in the late 90s, but I've actually heard someone use the word as recently as 2009. being an Otaku myself since the mid-90's, i'm only too familiar with the term... deg said: Haruhism or Haruhi franchise is much forgotten now this days i was there, too. God, has it been so long?!? |
MasterTasukeApr 26, 2022 7:15 AM
Apr 26, 2022 7:35 AM
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epidemia78 said: "Nakige" means crying or something like that. It refers to shows in the vein of Clannad. Usually VN adaptations, there used to be a lot of them in the early 2000s. Most are pretty terrible so it's no wonder we don't use that term anymore. I think they still get higher than average ratings as they come out. There just aren't a whole lot of nakige releases in general, like no more than a dozen releases in a single year at most with the average maybe half that. The ones that do get a English translation for the wider audience, they cumulatively would average over at least a 7.5. I am of the view that the term hasn't fallen out of use in the circles it can generally be seen in. |
Apr 26, 2022 7:38 AM
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HeruruMeruru said: I actually loved how quickly it turned from a term people would throw at the community as an insult, to a term we called each other as a joke, then finally just something the community called itself. Words are just words, it was so powerful to see people just steal the word for themselves."weeb" seems to be the more popular term. Not much other terms come to mind though. "Big 3" as a concept died forever ago, but I still see it being chucked around a bit more often a few years ago. It is more pretty much dead as a term now, and for good reason. |
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Apr 26, 2022 7:59 AM
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Apr 26, 2022 9:22 AM
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Apr 26, 2022 10:03 AM
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Naru-Tard. Naruto had a lot of hate back in the early days of YouTube and it's anime fandom. Like a lot of hate. |
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Apr 26, 2022 10:08 AM
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_cjessop19_ said: If there’s one word I’d like the community to fall out with, that’d be “mid” This is something I can wholeheartedly get behind, and while we're at it let's add "cringe" too the dustbin of history as well |
Apr 26, 2022 10:41 AM
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Newhalf even though that is a legit hentai term as well, but it's fallen way out of favor and we just say futanari or futa for short now. |
Apr 26, 2022 10:44 AM
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ChouunShiryuu said: epidemia78 said: "Nakige" means crying or something like that. It refers to shows in the vein of Clannad. Usually VN adaptations, there used to be a lot of them in the early 2000s. Most are pretty terrible so it's no wonder we don't use that term anymore. I think they still get higher than average ratings as they come out. There just aren't a whole lot of nakige releases in general, like no more than a dozen releases in a single year at most with the average maybe half that. The ones that do get a English translation for the wider audience, they cumulatively would average over at least a 7.5. I am of the view that the term hasn't fallen out of use in the circles it can generally be seen in. Is that so...? Well I am rather partial to the genre myself but the main drawback is that they're often rushed. Compressing an 80+ hour game experience to a mere 12 episodes doesn't often yield positive results. What's a recent nakige release that you think was good? |
Apr 26, 2022 10:50 AM
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@MasterTasuke a man of culture i see Adult Asahina is sexy hot for sure |
Apr 26, 2022 10:53 AM
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god i feel old. the only one of these words i don't know is "gar" and some of them i had no idea fell out of favor... |
Apr 26, 2022 12:15 PM
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I guess I'm too young to have even heard of half of these. And I guess that's a good thing |
Apr 26, 2022 12:27 PM
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Hoppy said: Newhalf even though that is a legit hentai term as well, but it's fallen way out of favor and we just say futanari or futa for short now. I always encountered "newhalf" as a term for male to female trans. It wasn't just used in hentai. epidemia78 said: "Nakige" means crying or something like that. It refers to shows in the vein of Clannad. Usually VN adaptations, there used to be a lot of them in the early 2000s. Most are pretty terrible so it's no wonder we don't use that term anymore. I like most of the ones I've seen, but that may be because I rarely watched any under 20 episodes. I believe part of the reason we now get fewer such adaptations is that the games themselves are not as popular as they used to be. |
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Apr 26, 2022 12:42 PM
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I remember most of those words mentioned in op, expect glomp and gar. Never heard them used, but I guess they didn't catch on here just like weeaboo word neither. Bara in a way. It's more like old word that for a reason still sometimes gets used by English fans while it's usually called just gay comics/ML these days. Lime and lemon in certain circles, but those weren't limited to just animanga. Also somewhat related I don't quite much see people saying "crack ship". "Rare pair/ship" even more often. AMV culture isn't so thriving these days and I don't remember when I have last time heard/seen someone use word "mep". |
Apr 26, 2022 1:13 PM
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Lucifrost said: @Catalano It could be that I'm sheltered, but I never felt there was anything gay about Tsubasa. When I hear gay CLAMP, I think of X and Lawful Drug. as always, it's the fans who exaggerate. fai and kurogane's relationship made the fans horny and there was also fuuma's obsession towards some character I forgot. They were the ones who called that "homolust". I am not saying tsubasa is gay but it made the fans think about gayness (if it makes sense) |
Apr 26, 2022 1:18 PM
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Apr 26, 2022 1:22 PM
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Apr 26, 2022 1:24 PM
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Lucifrost said: @Catalano I understand that, but I still think it strange. Out of everything CLAMP has done, why was it Tsubasa that inspired the new word? Did nobody fawn over the homoerotic subtext in X? maybe because of the popularity and the clamp fans it got along the way, tsubasa being an amalgamation of lots of clamp's works |
Apr 26, 2022 11:00 PM
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epidemia78 said: ChouunShiryuu said: epidemia78 said: "Nakige" means crying or something like that. It refers to shows in the vein of Clannad. Usually VN adaptations, there used to be a lot of them in the early 2000s. Most are pretty terrible so it's no wonder we don't use that term anymore. I think they still get higher than average ratings as they come out. There just aren't a whole lot of nakige releases in general, like no more than a dozen releases in a single year at most with the average maybe half that. The ones that do get a English translation for the wider audience, they cumulatively would average over at least a 7.5. I am of the view that the term hasn't fallen out of use in the circles it can generally be seen in. Is that so...? Well I am rather partial to the genre myself but the main drawback is that they're often rushed. Compressing an 80+ hour game experience to a mere 12 episodes doesn't often yield positive results. What's a recent nakige release that you think was good? You've liked clannad and little busters from what I saw in your favs, so I guess you could go for summer pockets. It's another recent release from the same developers. I haven't personally gotten to that one, so I would personally recommend nanairo reincarnation because of that and the youkai/oni charas. It got a recent TL sometime in 2020 I think and it is a decent title. Can't say the same for summer pockets that I haven't played yet. It has kind of come into the fate/stay sort of mainstream and the ratings could be very bloated, as is common. Also, after reading lucifrost's comment a different thought struck me, I think you may have been right considering animes of nakige titles losing out in popularity over the years may have taken the word out of usage in the anime community. Usage of the word must have seeped into the anime community due to the sheer popularity of those shows for a while. Nowadays, however, shows like "kamisama ni natta hi" just don't get that popular, i guess. You're completely right in that most of the 12 ep compressions are bound to be bad, and I guess even anime originals may not have the same reception anymore. |
Apr 26, 2022 11:38 PM
#50
What a good history lesson. :) Heard of I think all from old and new fans and I've only been in the community a short while or between a mix of 2000s and 2010s shows. Never heard of Japanimation I think (I get why it was used but yeah anime is simpler, quicker to say and most know what it means) and Gar. Only saw Gar a few days ago in the 'do you prefer Moe or Gar thread'. First time ever heard of it. I got the gist of what it meant but still. Bishies heard a bit more same with husbandos, waifu of course gets used a fair bit still, weebs I see more often than otaku. I do think the use of it like MID has been particularly used/lost all meaning. Shounen Ai/Shoujo Ai comes up with categories but that's about it other You/BL and Yuri more than GL. I was confused when I heard what a You Paddle was having no clue what goes on at conventions and once I did I wasn't surprised. Glomp only ever saw in certain anime and then the convention means of it made sense in a video I saw. Moe comes up still at times. Shounen/Shoujo still does. Loli of course still gets used. Shota I barely see and probably for good reason. Eroge still does, don't see Gal/Galge anymore I think most say dating sims like normal people do that make fun of them that don't play them. No clue for crying game, tradegy and the sub genres of that realm of visual novels/dating sims. Most of those I read on wikipedia but don't see getting used. Cultured individuals or however you want to put it I think is used a fair bit when it comes to those are interested in PLOT instead of plot (think I got the PLOT bit right). Ecchi/Hentai do and people I assume knowing the difference. Oppai don't think so. Endless 8 obviously is known by those that have seen the show. When airing I bet it sucked, but nowadays skipping those episodes/letting it sit in the background is fine but yeah. I skipped them at first viewing once I knew then came back later to see them and had them in the background. AMV I think are still a thing but their own community would know more than I do (never been a part of it) of course. Nightcore no clue not that it ever made sense in the first place with tempo speed ups on non electronic songs and Future Funk, Kawaii Future Bass among just high pitched or anime vocal samples already existing anyway. Never had any anime connection but somehow did have one. |
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