That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime
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| Talk no jutsu part 4. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
nina444 said: Blue_Maroon said: Ayooooo! The 5th straight episode of talking and set up for a battle with no stakes whatsoever! Does anyone actually think that Rimuru’s team is at a disadvantage currently? He has so many heavy hitters on his side that it doesn’t even matter if Clayman (or the person above him) has a trick up their sleeve. All the bases are pretty much covered and Rimuru is ridiculously OP now. Hell, now he even has something that will just tell him the right answers and releases all the tension because even if he does get in a fix, Raphael will just whip something up to get him out of it. yea, raphael is literally called king/lord of wisdom after all lol but she's actually not that unstoppable. there are other kings out there king of pride, king of wrath, king of lust, king of greed, king of justice, king of charity, king of investigation and many others My issue isn’t that it doesn’t make sense in a world-building sense. My issue is that it is lazy writing because now the author can give the characters omniscient knowledge whenever convenient as bluntly tell the viewers what is going on instead of showing it naturally. It is quite literally deus ex machina. |
Blue_Maroon said: nina444 said: yea, raphael is literally called king/lord of wisdom after all lol but she's actually not that unstoppable. there are other kings out there king of pride, king of wrath, king of lust, king of greed, king of justice, king of charity, king of investigation and many others My issue isn’t that it doesn’t make sense in a world-building sense. My issue is that it is lazy writing because now the author can give the characters omniscient knowledge whenever convenient as bluntly tell the viewers what is going on instead of showing it naturally. It is quite literally deus ex machina. not really as I stated earlier, there are other kings out there. and raphael's ability to know "everything" will naturally be struggled againts fellow kings raphael can easily create mass teleportation spell, cuz that move is not considered as high/ultimate level magic. even IF raphael cannot create mass teleportation spell, rimuru can still teleport anyone one by one just like how he and phobio have evacuated the refugees rimuru is actually shown capable of teleporting and bringing other people (such as: the children/his students) with him since Season 1, he gains that ability after eating a spirit who can manipulate space |
Lab_Rat_0978Aug 7, 2021 2:55 PM
| when they stop talking? |
Blue_Maroon said: nina444 said: yea, raphael is literally called king/lord of wisdom after all lol but she's actually not that unstoppable. there are other kings out there king of pride, king of wrath, king of lust, king of greed, king of justice, king of charity, king of investigation and many others My issue isn’t that it doesn’t make sense in a world-building sense. My issue is that it is lazy writing because now the author can give the characters omniscient knowledge whenever convenient as bluntly tell the viewers what is going on instead of showing it naturally. It is quite literally deus ex machina. What kind of buzzword is "lazy writing"? What does that even mean? Did you miss all the subtleties these past few episodes? If you can't even identify them, how could you possibly "rate" them or the supposed lack thereof? It makes no sense. And by the way, you misused the term Deus Ex Machina. Inform yourself properly before throwing around "fancy terms" like that. |
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neetzero001 said: when they stop talking? I know, right? I'll be back when they/if do. Boring season so far. It's unbearably dull. |
Grey-Zone said: Blue_Maroon said: My issue isn’t that it doesn’t make sense in a world-building sense. My issue is that it is lazy writing because now the author can give the characters omniscient knowledge whenever convenient as bluntly tell the viewers what is going on instead of showing it naturally. It is quite literally deus ex machina. What kind of buzzword is "lazy writing"? What does that even mean? Did you miss all the subtleties these past few episodes? If you can't even identify them, how could you possibly "rate" them or the supposed lack thereof? It makes no sense. And by the way, you misused the term Deus Ex Machina. Inform yourself properly before throwing around "fancy terms" like that. It is “lazy writing” because Raphael is used as a mouthpiece for the author to get the characters to know and do things that they would have otherwise had to figure out themselves. Take the mass teleportation as an example. Without Raphael, they would have had to figure out how to do that themselves. That would require the author to think about how each character would approach the issue and what ways they could solve the issue while staying true to what knowledge they have and how much intelligence they have been shown to have. Obviously, this would require a lot of time to think about given how many damn characters there are in Tensura. So, the author introduces Raphael as an easy way to come up with these solutions without thinking about all these variables. That is the epitome of lazy writing. Having Raphael spout out solutions out of left field does not make the anime better. It makes everyone else seem useless because Raphael is the one coming up with the majority of breakthroughs and solutions. It is a cheap way to progress the plot. Definition of Deus ex Machina (as found on Google) is: “ an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel.” Hopless situation = Clayman’s army attacking beast kingdom in 2 days and the heroes won’t make it in time, Unexpected power = Raphael coming up with the teleportation technique out of thin air using a skill that was developed off-screen (or at least hardly acknowledged since I don’t remember everything about this anime). This also applies to Raphael figuring out where Clayman is going to attack (if he does end up attacking the beast kingdom) because hopeless situation = not knowing Clayman’s next move, and unexpected power = Raphael chimming in with the right answer. If you were referring to the original definition of deus ex machina then sorry, but you should inform yourself properly before want to make accusations. |
| @Blue_Maroon lol You should've read my reply above Rimuru's ability to teleport and bring other people with him has already been showcased since S1, even Souei can also do similar thing. all Rimuru's executives (except Hakurou) are capable of doing this move so Why would you say "Its out of thin air"? The foundation has been laid since long ago also, Why would you say "The heroes won’t make it in time"? Do you even watch the anime? Literally the only one who says that is Suphia, and she obviously has no authority nor credibilty to conclude "We can't make it in time" for everyone ya know? that said myb she's only referring to the BeastKeteers, considering the three of em cannot use teleportation magic This also applies to Raphael figuring out where Clayman is going to attack (if he does end up attacking the beast kingdom) because hopeless situation = not knowing Clayman’s next move, and unexpected power = Raphael chimming in with the right answer. If you were referring to the original definition of deus ex machina then sorry, but you should inform yourself properly before want to make accusations. Clayman's plan to awaken as a True Demon Lord has already been revealed since S2 part 1, its Rimuru himself who speculated it before him massacring 20k of Falmuth Army. and After getting some intel from Myulan (Clayman's spy), Rimuru concluded that his deduction was most likely right Lastly, iirc its Benimaru and Suphia who have figured it out Clayman's next move tho lol I think you're the one who's being Lazy here lmao. There you have it, the final nail in your coffin |
Lab_Rat_0978Aug 8, 2021 1:12 AM
nina444 said: @Blue_Maroon lol You should've read my reply above Rimuru's ability to teleport and bring other people with him has already been showcased since S1, even Souei can also do similar thing. all Rimuru's executives (except Hakurou) are capable of doing this move so Why would you say "Its out of thin air"? The foundation has been laid since long ago also, Why would you say "The heroes won’t make it in time"? Do you even watch the anime? Literally the only one who says that is Suphia, and she obviously has no authority nor credibilty to conclude "We can't make it in time" for everyone ya know? that said myb she's only referring to the BeastKeteers, considering the three of em cannot use teleportation magic This also applies to Raphael figuring out where Clayman is going to attack (if he does end up attacking the beast kingdom) because hopeless situation = not knowing Clayman’s next move, and unexpected power = Raphael chimming in with the right answer. If you were referring to the original definition of deus ex machina then sorry, but you should inform yourself properly before want to make accusations. Clayman's plan to awaken as a True Demon Lord has already been revealed since S2 part 1, its Rimuru himself who speculated it before him massacring 20k of Falmuth Army. and After getting some intel from Myulan (Clayman's spy), Rimuru concluded that his deduction was most likely right Lastly, iirc its Benimaru and Suphia who have figured it out Clayman's next move tho lol I think you're the one who's being Lazy here lmao. There you have it, the final nail in your coffin It’s out of thin air because it uses the teleportation magic on a massive scale that was not shown to be possible before. Yes, other characters have been shown to be able to teleport and with some chosen comrades (which I never denied), but not huge armies. Once Rimuru (Raphael) came up with the solution, everyone praised him as a genius because it was a problem that nobody else could solve until Raphael (the author) whipped up a solution using a supplemental ability that was crafted w/o Rimuru’s knowledge. Now, I agree that without this mass teleportation method, likely all of the leaders could have been teleported to the area and still won the war. In fact, one thing that I didn’t understand about this episode was why they were so caught up trying to send their armies there when Rimuru and his strongest soldiers could probably wipe out the army with ease. Nevertheless, they contrived a way that allowed Rimuru to teleport large groups of people so that he can use that in the future. Also, it doesn’t really matter what characters have speculated intentions when Raphael is the one to conclusively say that Clayman will kill the beast kingdom citizens. At the end of the day, they committed to sending their armies to the beast kingdom because Raphael difinitively said what was going on. That, on top of coming up with a mass teleportation system that the viewers could not have thought of themselves using the knowledge given to them, is indicative of a plot device. EDIT: After rewatching the parts that I am referring to this is what I found - Regarding them figuring out what Clayman’s after: - Soui says there are 30,000 in Milim’s territory led by the 5 (4 now) fingers - Benimaru suggests Clayman may not be after Tempest - Rimuru suggests he might be after the beast kingdom - Raphael connects the dots and says he will kill the citizens to become a true demon lord Conclusion is that while Raphael did not pull the conclusion completely out of thin air, it was still the reason for them deciding to protect the citizens. Regarding the mass teleportation - Rimuru is the one that says “Looks like there’s no way for us to make it in time” - Raphael hops in and says that he can mass teleport people by using the extra skill “control space” to form barriers and minimize magicule count - Rimuru says “You develop skills and techniques for me, and I don’t even ask!” Conclusion is that this was pulled completely out of thin air with even Rimuru being unaware of how to do this or even that Raphael was doing it. |
Blue_MaroonAug 8, 2021 10:18 AM
| I wonder how many will actually die in the war... I wonder if they will have plot armor or not lol. |
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| Too easy but I'm not surprised at this point. Anyways, I love Veldora yukata. |
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| the war has started! this is getting interesting |
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| Holy crap. This series has gone way down heal. I stopped watching when he conveniently created a technique to teleport his army. Hopefully the next episode is better? |
| That's quite the force. The set up is a mixed bag. Probably would enjoy it more if I didn't know that there will be no stakes. At least I won't expect anything too crazy from this series. |
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| The teleportation was cool |
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HagePotPotato said: i get that the op has been kinda op from the start, more or less. but this is just kind of lame. learning new asspull skills he didn't even ask raphael to do. him "swallowing" all those people like he did with veldora and then bringing veldora back would've been more interesting, and believable, i guess and he can just teleport anywhere he wants? he doesn't have to have ever been there before? how's that even work? so far i've enjoyed the first half of season 2 more, although veldora was really fun/funny for an episode or two op? in comparison to whom? rimuru is not really that op compared to top-tier characters in slime verse, atm he's only around mid-tier level strong no, rimuru cant just teleport to the place he hasnt been there before many details were skipped in the anime at the beginning of S1 P1 it showcases that benny visited the animal kingdom, he was there remember? so benny brought rimuru along with him to the animal kingdom by using teleportation magic. and there you have it, rimuru was in the animal kingdom. its as simple as that all the kijins, except hakurou can use teleportation magic btw raphael is considered as a character too, she's rimuru's split personality. she's not a plot device type of character that knows everything either she can be wrong and making the wrong decisions, she can get fooled or outsmarted by other characters too |
Lab_Rat_0978Sep 30, 2021 11:13 PM
| Rimuru on another scale with this scale. |
| That magic teleportation is awesome! a big circle with complicated design, I like it. Finally a big deal against Clayman. Interesting, now its time to war. |
| So the 5th episode too is a prep / buildup / talkative / no action episode. Come on, really? They could have been more concise by trimming some prep / politics / meetings / jokes fat and starting the action from ep 4. But - apparently, hopefully- it is going to start from ep 6. These 5 episodes could have easily fit in 3 episodes by shaving most redundant / unnecessary / filler parts... Why such a snail pacing? |
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| 5 episodes genuinely felt like 5 hours watching it. At least the buildup's over now despite how horrible it was in its execution and structure. |
| Man on one hand I want Rimuru to go there himself and kill every single enemy himself like what he did before but on the other hand, well, he's a leader of a country. He has his subordinates to command and do these things for him. This war is going to be epic! |
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| So I guess Diablo will be inexistent this season which is a big disappointment. Benimaru is still just as amazing, but I can't say the same for Shion and Ranga (specifically them because they were picked by Rimuru). Also they pretty much made that majin guy a detestable character already so he'll probably die later on. Now, after 5 episodes, I wonder how the Demon Lords meeting will proceed. |
Alex_TheForestJan 6, 2022 1:49 PM
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| Getting ready for something big to go down! |
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| Some final preparations before the war against Clayman breaks out. It got pretty boring with those dialogue-heavy episodes, so I'm glad we finally getting some action. |
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| Did not expect Diablo and Shion to become best buddies, but I like it. Rimuru's teleportation magic seems massively overpowered, he can just bring his army anywhere at this point. Still, another buildup episode? These next 7 episodes better be f*cking bananas. |
| Can we FINALLY get to the meat part?? Because I feel like I've aged a bit watching these past five episodes. I get the build-ups, I get the world building, I get the pep talks.. but it shouldn't have last for almost half of this season. When in the end those demon lords will so easily yield to Rimuru. Thought I hope I'm proved to be wrong. |
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| There you go. That's the teleport ability I was talking about! Anyway, Rimuru's army is overkill! I'm sure that if he wanted to, he could've just teleported to Clayman's army and destroyed it himself. He can't detect Clayman's location for some reason, but he can also solo him later in Walpurgis. His only weakness so far is the holy magic barrier, and he already has resistance against it, if I remember correctly. He could've done all of this in one episode. Haha! |
| Another fine episode. |
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Too easy but I'm not surprised at this point. Anyways, I love Veldora yukata.
| @Nurguburu i want that1 myself (Veldora's yukata/kimono) lol if i would get 2, i would wear it awry day on summer and i don't live in japan so its not a norm, i would probably end up in news, but i don't care LOL |
Sugram22Dec 10, 2023 7:00 AM
| They will get Clayman soon, if it's Rimuru and the guys we're talking about |
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| people seem to not like how this season started but somehow ive been fine with it so far. only thing i can think of complaining is that 5 out of the 12 episodes have been "wasted" it wasnt boring for me but so much more could have been done. is it me or has shion gotten even more attached and needy towards rimuru :D? i guess it makes sense he did revive her from the dead  |
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| The Dryads spoiling Ramiris is so wholesome. Can't wait to see Clayman's expression when he realizes all his sacrifices are now missing. |
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