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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Heh, the fan service this episode made me laugh a bit. Regardless, we got Yu-no showing more of her energetic personality. I have to admit, the episode kinda reminds me of a JRPG with the amount of fantasy adventure elements. Poor Yu-no got taken away :( |
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| This is turning into one of those stories where everything that could possibly go wrong is going wrong |
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| I'm not sure about Sayless's plan to kill herself. Seems it would have been more prudent to get them to let Takuya go first. How was she supposed to know that they wouldn't kill him anyway? Why didn't they kill him anyway? It's not like it takes much time to go stab a guy who can't move. On top of that, they left one of their mounts there for him to use. Those soldiers were beyond incompetent. Although, they somehow seemed to get across the desert in an instant and it took Takuya and Yu-no days, and they never got to the capital. The emperor seems to recognize Takuya's name. The hair really screams woman to me, and I still think it could be Mitsuki or Ayumi. The emperor doesn't seem to have pointy ears. The emperor could be a puppet to the guy standing next to him/her too. The blond woman with the sword and mask could be Takuya's mother though. I sure hope Kunkun comes back again, because it seems odd to introduce him just to ditch him in the next episode. |
| Fuck this adaptation! Sayless didn't killed herself in the novel, those soldiers raped her and killed her! Why the hell the director of this nonsense thought he knows better than original author? Also, he killed one of their own and they went easy on him? Just why? Why to show them as good guys when they were meant to be shown as utter trash? And Takuya just standing there threatening to kill them doing but nothing was even worse. And they also removed the reflector from him in the most stupid way (even though he already shouldn't have by now which make me wonder why they even introduced such useless plot device). Even worse, after four years living there he's still going by that anime-only story with saving Kanna (when in the reality his motivations were different). Whole scene literally made no sense. The worst thing is they most likely did it to remove some implications later on. But by doing that they also removed some important story conflicts. And by showing all the scenes with emperor they are basically removing all the mystery. And it's obvious the emperor knows him by now. I also don't get why the guards conveniently left him with their animal there. And they completely destroyed Sarah encounter too (even though they at least included some nudity in the oasis). Even the scene in the temple was very different, too many shortcuts in the anime and not really for the better. I really didn't like the episode, it felt like they are trying to destroy all the impact by removing proper character developement. |
Mich666 said: Fuck this adaptation! Sayless didn't killed herself in the novel, those soldiers raped her and killed her! Why the hell the director of this nonsense thought he knows better than original author? Laukku said: Mich666 said: Yes she did, she bit off her tongue.Fuck this adaptation! Sayless didn't killed herself in the novel, those soldiers raped her and killed her! Why the hell the director of this nonsense thought he knows better than original author? Which was kinda confusing reading in the VN anyways, I didn't really understand how that worked. This way of killing herself makes way more sense than what was in the VN. |
Laukku said: Mich666 said: Yes she did, she bit off her tongue.Fuck this adaptation! Sayless didn't killed herself in the novel, those soldiers raped her and killed her! Why the hell the director of this nonsense thought he knows better than original author? Really? I would swear they made her do that and that it was the act of despair (yeah, she tried to protect Takuya). But you are right, I just found the moment on youtube. Too bad they never mentioned that every priestess is able to divine the moment of their death, that was not made obvious here. It's true that when you bit off your tongue you'll bleed out pretty quickly though. But anyway, the way it all happened in the anime felt extremely cheap - the way that scene played out one would think there were several better outcomes for that situation. |
| Well that's an episode that's hard to glide by. Being an anime-only, it's worse when I hear that the source material is botched in favour of the production staff's direction, but in some benefit of doubt it would have made sense. So Takuya at this point of time, surviving without Sayless in the most unimaginable way possible, made even worse that the land's king/emperor wanted his/her hands on both him and Yu-No. It's going to be a mammoth task ahead for Takuya, who realizes that the prisoners of the land are being worked on the quarry, that has what he's been looking for: the psychite for Kanna. Only 6 episodes to go, what's the next step? |
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| And another character dead : seems like there's a real tradition of 1 episode 1 death for this arc lol Though blood will be spilled later on, there are still a lot things that should be coming real soon. |
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| I got anxiety watching this episode why leave the reflector device out in the open for display and takuya trusting pretty much everyone he meets just shows he lost what little character development he got since episode 1 these plot device we're so weak that I had to turn my brain off after sayless killed herself..... |
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| RIP Sayless. Got to feel bad for Takuya in this episode. Sayless dies, he gets betrayed by Sarah and his Yu-No gets taken away. |
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Kirasaya said: Lets be real here, the real tragedy of this episode was that he didnt take Sarahs offer at the oasis. Oh, in the VN he definitely did, and right next to Yu-No even as she was sleeping ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| Sincerely, I loved the episode. I don't care if the original was much darker and whatnot, the previous 2 episodes already did very well into developing Takuya and Sayless to the point you actually care about them a little. And to have this tragic but at the same time "cute" episode instead of some edgy rapefest as you guys are complaining is truly the best choice they did. By the way, it's an anime adaptation, they do not have to follow exactly the original. This episode was great and probably is the best episode in terms of characterization by far, if it keep it up this anime prob gonna get it's place on my favorites. And also let's be fair, the score is only low on MAL because both the edgy players of the original and the snowflakes disliked. Because they toned it down, that I know, but it didn't tone it down enough for the snowflakes be able to watch and don't complain. |
Laukku said: Jio_Inzagi said: The issue isn't that it's less "edgy" than the original, it's that the logic of the plot is being broken. Anybody can tell that the soldiers acted in a way that makes little sense.Sincerely, I loved the episode. I don't care if the original was much darker and whatnot, the previous 2 episodes already did very well into developing Takuya and Sayless to the point you actually care about them a little. And to have this tragic but at the same time "cute" episode instead of some edgy rapefest as you guys are complaining is truly the best choice they did. By the way, it's an anime adaptation, they do not have to follow exactly the original. This episode was great and probably is the best episode in terms of characterization by far, if it keep it up this anime prob gonna get it's place on my favorites. And also let's be fair, the score is only low on MAL because both the edgy players of the original and the snowflakes disliked. Because they toned it down, that I know, but it didn't tone it down enough for the snowflakes be able to watch and don't complain. That's a fair claim. In fact it made no sense for them to simply go away and leave him. But there are some cheap excuses that can be given: . They wanted to contact the emperor quickly . They left him roped in the middle of nowhere The second one is a fair one, a roped guy alone(they do not know of Yu-no) wouldn't be able to do anything, |
| Seeing those imperial knights getting the reflector device makes me annoyed. Takuya seems really weak on this episode, and of course betrayal that I didn't know was coming. Sayless is dead, Yu-No got kidnapped, and Takuya getting imprisoned... Everything is going in a wrong way. |
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Ded5 said: Sucks that we're having professional adaptation judges and no one actually talking about the anime and plot itself. I think the anime and especially the plot itself is great for what it's worth! |
| Plot holes, plot holes everywhere. Them Knights not killing him after capturing him? After he killed one of their comrades and apparently took their priestess away from them and stealing sacred imperial treasure? At least drag his sorry ass to the capital to face trial in front of the rulers, no? But nah, don't do any of that and let him off to get rescued by the daughter that they didn't know he had..... riiiiiight.... Seriously where the hell is this show going? And Takuya is dumb AF. |
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L-Ryoshi said: Plot holes, plot holes everywhere. Them Knights not killing him after capturing him? After he killed one of their comrades and apparently took their priestess away from them and stealing sacred imperial treasure? At least drag his sorry ass to the capital to face trial in front of the rulers, no? But nah, don't do any of that and let him off to get rescued by the daughter that they didn't know he had..... riiiiiight.... Seriously where the hell is this show going? And Takuya is dumb AF. They had him tied up in ropes. They thought he was alone. They wanted to originally kill him because they were going to take Sayless away and wanted to make sure he wouldn't cause any problems going after them, but since she killed herself, they no longer needed to prevent him from saving her. So they just left him there, figuring that he'd starve to death tied up on the ground, unable to move. Remember, they had no idea that he had a daughter or a dragon that could bite the ropes off of him, lmao. |
Mich666 said: those soldiers raped her and killed her! Did they really? I don't remember something like this. I remember being scared that they would actually do this, but I swear, I don't remember it. Time to refresh my memory watching that scene on YT. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
rsc-pl said: Did they really? I don't remember something like this. I remember being scared that they would actually do this, but I swear, I don't remember it. Time to refresh my memory watching that scene on YT. They actually didn't (I had to check because my memory was fuzzy too) but if anything those soldiers were the reason why everything happened. My theory is that all the priestesses can actually see all the worldlines or divine the future if you will - all thanks to their bound - and are able to tell if their time is coming. Her situation was probably the same as with Mitsuki befor who was predestined to die everytime and also similiar to all those Ayumi's deaths in the anime before - so she chose the exact moment by herself by biting her tongue (to save Takuya too). She was the type that believed in "you can't change the fate" saying and she saw only one way out given what happened. Still, what the anime did was pure nonesense - in the game she knew Takuya would start killing everyone just to save her which would lead to his death eventually so she tried to prevent that. And they also let him kill off one guard and still went easy on him in the anime (which was just bad writing, they had no reason to not kill him for what he had done - they were only reasonable in the game because he didn't kill anyone there). That's also why it was stupid to let him forget his reflector inside, as he would be able to do everything in his power to revert her death back as with other girls before. There was a reason why he didn't have it when he arrived in Dela Grante and by changing things they are creating mini-plotholes and changing key motivations. Originally, he went on journey to the capital to avenge the Sayless and kill The Emperor while in the anime he was still unrealistically thinking of Kanna instead... after all those four years (how long was he even with her... several days maybe?). Also, in the anime they didn't really clearly explained how priestesses work (both Sayless and Yuno), we only god one ominous look on Sayless face as to hint she knew she won't be seeing each other again (that's also why Yu-No went to their bedroom the day before, to say goodbye, although her hunch was much more uncertain at that time. |
| wow! I salute Takuya because his objective still remains the same which is saving Kanna, cuz after all those years stuck with Sayless...even had a baby which is Yu-No...that was quite impressive. Too bad Sayless had to go. Looks like Takuya found something interesting and related to earth on that Prison at the Empire!... 4/5. |
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ycleped said: Kirasaya said: Lets be real here, the real tragedy of this episode was that he didnt take Sarahs offer at the oasis. Oh, in the VN he definitely did, and right next to Yu-No even as she was sleeping ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) His wife just died and he's already screwing around with another girl!? This MC...lmao wtf. This better not be the last of Kun Kun. |
| How many things were happened in this and in the previous episode!? I was not expecting something like this. |
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| Wtf is going on lol?Great he lost the Reflector Device. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Wow he lost his wife, he lost his daughter, got betrayed by random elfgirl, and he is now captured into some kind of workcamp I think when he escapes and meets the imperial king, he is gonna do a hell lot more than just ''punch'' him |
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| they keep changing what the MC is like, sometimes he's strong, sometimes he's weak, like weak af, i'm not talking about strength here but just overall, most of the time rational, sometimes loses his shit because of things, yeah i guess its understandable why he lost his shit but when has things ever turned out well for him when he does? the part where Yuno collapses in the desert and asks him if they're nearly there, reminded me of Clannad when Shio asked Tomoya the same question, ouch the amount lockpicks Sarah shoved into the keyhole and it worked just like that, if only you could do that in Skyrim yup thats what happens when you trust some random sloot you find in the wild |
| Got bored of it, I don't even remember the original plot, and what's with that alien bearded dude? I'm an anime only guy but I think even the vn won't satisfy me. |
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| I feel bad for KunKun after this episode. I hope he can return somehow and please kill Sarah. |
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