| Thread probably doesn't belong here but akidearest |
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| As much as I like Sydsnap, I know really well that most of her jokes are extremelly forced and unnatural. Not sure about the rest, since I don't really watch them |
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| I think akidearest has over a million subscribers and that's a lot. It might be because of content they make. |
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| I just haven't found one I liked, sydsnap is okay but she tries too hard to be funny in her videos I've seen. Akidearest doesn't put out good content at all, but she has 1mil+ subscribers so you can't exactly say they get no attention. If I could find a female anituber with actual interesting ideas/reviews, I would subscribe in a heartbeat. |
| Them girls aren't edgy enough. Sloan is not that bad and her jokes aren't rehearsed like in the case of the poplular anitubers, I've seen only a few of her vids though. |
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| There's not that many big anitubers in terms of having a large following and etc., so to a point it's simply statistics. There are less female anitubers, there are less big female anitubers. There may be some structural issue behind that, of course, particularly seeing how unwelcoming some fans in nerdy hobbies are of women. Either way, I don't have much of an experience. I think Sloan is okay but I never followed her, just watched a couple seasonal impressions videos. Akidearest is the most famous but her content is quite eh to me. Zeria is quite cool no matter what Manaban thinks :P. Pedantic Romantic is extremely eh. |
jal90Apr 17, 2019 6:36 AM
| this is not twitch.tv; anitubing is a job only for hardened internet veterans |
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| Here in Brazil we have the haru, she has more than 1 million members https://www.youtube.com/user/HaruJiggly |
| Why do any anitubers get attention is the better question. |
| With such a limited number of anime youtubers, it is very possibly because their content is just not as good. |
HopefulNihilist said: Maenads said: With such a limited number of anime youtubers, it is very possibly because their content is just not as good. I don't think that's the case. In my opinion, Sloan is better than Chibi, Sydsnap is better than The Anime Man. But that is just like, your opinion man. Anytime your sample size is small, you can have unusual or skewed results. |
| A better question would be: why do anitubers get any attention? |
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syncrogazer said: Why do any anitubers get attention is the better question. This is really the better question. Most of them are super cringy ( I just skipped through one of "Sydsnap's" videos to prove my statement and yeah cringy as fuck) I am glad that I could preserve myself from getting in contact with anitubers. The most ridiculous kind of anituber videos are reaction videos. Seriously, why would someone even want to watch this? |
| Ah, more feminist whining. As if we really need this. Gender matters not as long as the content is fair. Most of the anitubers are garbage reaction video makers hyping every single relief of pigeon vomit found on the streetwalk, anyway. Want to fill the void, girls? Nobody is keeping you from doing it, on the contrary. You're welcome to try your best shot if you think you have enough on-screen presence to build a solid fellowship. Remember Marzgurl? She once had this opportunity, but her pace of production was so sluggish that everyone forgot her. And now, she has nothing better to do with her time than libel an anime voice actor. I think Sloan is doing a fair job on her part, even if she doesn't make the unanimity. |
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| >> How is this thread, "feminist whining"? "Booh wooh, muh youtube anime community members with XX chromosomes don't have nearly as much success. Muh inclusiveness". That's the kind of whining I read as you come up with such pointless topic. How does it matter to begin with, if you lot tell us that genders are equal in rights? Yes, we are. Nobody is preventing females from getting success as anitubers if they put enough heart in it. If they aren't successful, it's certainly because they don't manage to win the loyalty of a versatile niche audience. It is more difficult when you try to tap on an already saturated target audience instead of a broader one. You seem to suggest it is a gender issue. It is not. I'd say, having a success as an anituber depends on: - being on at the right place, at the right time. Most of the established youtubers are old timers who managed to build up a consequent fanbase and adjust to changes of Youtube policies. - finding an audience through own reviewing format. If you beat a path that is already overly beaten, you won't garner as much success as the established ones doing basically the same thing. Then again, not a matter of gender. - good handling of public relationship. If you're being shitty with your fanbase, you will quickly lose it. On the other hand, if you're being too vanilla you risk to bore your people as well. - Talent and on-screen presence. Some youtubers have meh content, but their personality is such it compels people to keep following. |
sorceryApr 18, 2019 12:35 PM
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jal90 said: Pedantic Romantic is extremely eh. I thought PedanticRomantic was a dude?? |
| Because, unlike boys who won't gladly read something, many girls prefer to read about something when they want informations. (or prefer literally anything above watching someone talking to his/her camera). @sorcery Sorry, I forgot to mention this as a way to blow out my nerves on this kind of thing. To be serious, I'm well aware girls are also extremely happy to rush on XXXXXX videos of this general type. From the young comrades I've seen around me (at the university), they are less numerous: most "YT" female consumers I've seen primarily use it as an online walkman (like guys) - pretty unpractical - or to watch "funny videos" and TV/cine trailers. The other more minor chunk follows things about food/"ecology"/hygiene ("women bleeding", guides for women's "hygienic band" ?! sorry, no idea of the eng.words)/love&sex, whatever daily life things YT peoples can come up with to serve as some weird counseling service (the "female mags of today). But more do that through a written support (paper/web). Writing this, it doesn't sound like I'm talking about biology students... Apart from one single "bizarre" guy I know who watches TV docs, people talking about Nietzsche or whatever historical/scientific/philosophic thing he's into at that minute, none consults anyone outside of his/her circle / family for opinions about fictions. They simply see a title or a trailer, then maybe read the most vague and brief synopsis possible. Because, you know, they're not the "Y generation" or whatever, they're the "spoiler gen", if they decide to go watch a social or an "author movie", they can't even stand the mere idea of knowing some info or event beforehand like it was a frigging suspense/thriller movie ! 1. Not lured up by the same things, 2. A bit less incline inclined to use YT for that kind of thing. 3. For both sexes, not interested in others opinion when it's fiction/entertainment-related. Seeing how those persons "follow" people on YT, it's easy to dismiss the number of followers as an impact information. More so for something concerning only a small part of a young group. (I'll try to find if there are publications about the female reception of "influencers") |
Rei_IIIApr 19, 2019 12:10 AM
Rei366 said: Because, unlike boys who won't gladly read something, many girls prefer to read about something when they want informations. (or prefer literally anything above watching someone talking to his/her camera). That's an interesting claim. Is there any kind of source backing up your assumption? Because I am still pretty sure that the likes of Anime man and Gigguk have a consequent female based audience, for example. |
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| I dont watch any "anitubers", but if females are getting less attention then males they should probably just show their tits or something. |
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| Well i've given a bunch of them a try, but i just don't find what any of them have to say interesting. I can't stand Akidearest, but i'd say she's on the level of the popular male ani-tubers. |
Stygian_Prisoner said: jal90 said: Pedantic Romantic is extremely eh. I thought PedanticRomantic was a dude?? Trans girl. Same as Zeria in that aspect. |
jal90 said: Trans girl. Same as Zeria in that aspect. Meh, that's still just a dude in my eyes; but whatever, it's fine if people wanna call 'em how they "identify" as. |
| my guess is that the female tubers in question are just not that interesting or produce sub par content. I dont think its fueled by sexism. I think sexuality on the whole would work in the favor of female youtubers. just glanced some of these female youtubers out now. Seems the ladies you mentioned do pretty well for themselves. Especially for the low effort vlog style content they produce. They probably do better than the average man who does the same shtick at the same level of quality. |
ComboSmoothApr 18, 2019 2:49 PM
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| I just haven't found one that I like yet. The one's I've seen aren't too funny or critical. |
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| I dont like anitubers. I like good content. Thats why I like Gigguk. I dont really like anyone else. So my guess is because their content isnt good enough? |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| I agree with the above comments that anitubers in general are actual trash, but Tekking101 seems to make good long discussion videos. His cringey personality grew on me, now it just comes across as him not giving af about what people think of him, which is cool |
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HopefulNihilist said: sorcery said: [color=orange][b]>> How is this thread, "feminist whining"? "Booh wooh, muh youtube anime community members with XX chromosomes don't have nearly as much success. Muh inclusiveness". Why is it that whenever anybody on MAL brings up a topic that has anything to do with anime and politics/gender/race, people are quick to attack them and call them an "sjw" (nevermind the fact that what I'm doing isn't being a social justice warrior at all)? Why are you guys so sensitive? It's because society is ramming censorship and social justice down our throats 24/7, people get very antsy online where there's less of it. I agree though that this thread isn't about that ^ |
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| [quote=HopefulNihilist message=57428887 I literally don't see anybody in real life talking about: A) Politics B) Religion C) Race D) Gender They're like, the 4 taboo topics in America. Unless you're from a different country, or look at the news, how can you possibly encounter these subjects in real life??[/quote] I'm from Ireland, but the censorship in the States is a lot worse than here. In any college, and to a lesser extent job, those subjects are far from taboo. Liberal narratives are pushed and often forced on you, or else you are thrown out for wrongthink. Also, liberal values and egalitarian views are peddled nonstop in mainstream media all over the world. It gets stifling, which is why people can get overly defensive online. |
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HopefulNihilist said: Wait, I'm confused: is Pedantic Romantic biologically a dude, but identifies as a girl, or...? Apparently, PR is a biological male, but he "transitioned" into a female. I got confused when jal90 lumped him in with the female anitubers 'cause i saw a couple of his videos and his voice sounded decidedly masculine to me. |
Stygian_PrisonerApr 18, 2019 4:24 PM
| Thanks for mentioning a few more youtubers to me. I checked out Sloan; I think I've seen a bit of her stuff before, randomly. Not really my thing. Checked out Zeria too. She's big into yuri, which isn't my thing personally, but I've nevertheless found some videos of hers that I like. Still not following any anime youtubers though, regardless of gender. Still haven't found one that's really stood out to me as bringing me a consistent supply of enlightening videos. @sorcery: good gosh, have you considered refraining from imposing your BOLD ORANGE text on people? Also, you're the first person in this thread to mention "feminist whining", particularly conspicuous since no one was whining. Good job shoehorning your political views into the thread. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Thanks for mentioning a few more youtubers to me. I checked out Sloan; I think I've seen a bit of her stuff before, randomly. Not really my thing. Checked out Zeria too. She's big into yuri, which isn't my thing personally, but I've nevertheless found some videos of hers that I like. Still not following any anime youtubers though, regardless of gender. Still haven't found one that's really stood out to me as bringing me a consistent supply of enlightening videos. @sorcery: good gosh, have you considered refraining from imposing your BOLD ORANGE text on people? Also, you're the first person in this thread to mention "feminist whining", particularly conspicuous since no one was whining. Good job shoehorning your political views into the thread. Whoa, it's a new, people triggered over someone putting at use an implemented forum feature. I must be ashamed as I pointed at a figurative gun on your head and forced you to read my posts, that's for certain. Not as if, I don't know, I am just a random guy who loves orange as a color and decided to use it as a signature writing move. Pretty rich that you accuse me of bringing an issue out of the blue when you come up with such an idiotic recrimination. I simply address the fact that this type of needless thread only twists a knife on the wound. Indeed, it seems more like something a third wave feminist rabidly concerned by inclusiveness would post than a thread of substantial significance. As if gender matters to begin with. At least, your daffy outrage is a hint that I reached my goal. I get a kick out of the reaction of the likes of you. Congrats for passing off as a jackass whereas everybody else replied in a level headed way. Bonus for you, I leave this line in red to stir the salt on you. Enjoy ;) |
sorceryApr 21, 2019 1:05 PM
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| Because men have better taste at everything. |
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HopefulNihilist said: Stygian_Prisoner said: Meh, that's still just a dude in my eyes; but whatever, it's fine if people wanna call 'em how they "identify" as. Wait, I'm confused: is Pedantic Romantic biologically a dude, but identifies as a girl, or...? PR identifies as female, basically. Now, if you are like Stygian_Prisoner and don't consider that relevant, up to you. We shouldn't probably derail this thread into discussing what the term "gender identity" means, it's cool as it is. |
trenchantbaka said: From my experience, videos containing analysis or constructive criticism of sorts get the most views on youtube and there aren't many female youtubers who make those type of videos so maybe that's why they don't get much popular? This is probably the most correct answer. Just look at any of the most popular male anitubers, and you'll see that 90% of them make a ton of analysis videos on specific anime or anime-related topics: TheAnimeMan, Mother's Basement, Glass Reflection, Gigguk, etc. Even a few of Digicuck's videos make a good point here and there. By contrast, the female anitubers mostly just talk about anime in a vlog-style way. If another female YouTuber, such as Reignbot, decided to make anime analysis videos, I have no doubt they'd be just as popular as any of the male anitubers. That's the kind of content people want: they want to debate and discuss, to share ideas and argue with each other about their favorite medium. And for everyone mentioning the counterexample of Akidearest..........lets be real here, the only reason she has as many subs as she does is because she piggybacked on the success of TheAnimeMan. Most of her content is exactly the same as the other female anitubers, and she would be FAR less successful if she were alone. |
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sorcery said: imlaughingforrealrightnow.pngGlennMagusHarvey said: Thanks for mentioning a few more youtubers to me. I checked out Sloan; I think I've seen a bit of her stuff before, randomly. Not really my thing. Checked out Zeria too. She's big into yuri, which isn't my thing personally, but I've nevertheless found some videos of hers that I like. Still not following any anime youtubers though, regardless of gender. Still haven't found one that's really stood out to me as bringing me a consistent supply of enlightening videos. @sorcery: good gosh, have you considered refraining from imposing your BOLD ORANGE text on people? Also, you're the first person in this thread to mention "feminist whining", particularly conspicuous since no one was whining. Good job shoehorning your political views into the thread. Whoa, it's a new, people triggered over someone putting at use an implemented forum feature. I must be ashamed as I pointed at a figurative gun on your head and forced you to read my posts, that's for certain. Not as if, I don't know, I am just a random guy who loves orange as a color and decided to use it as a signature writing move. Pretty rich that you accuse me of bringing an issue out of the blue when you come up with such an idiotic recrimination. I simply address the fact that this type of needless thread only twists a knife on the wound. Indeed, it seems more like something a third wave feminist rabidly concerned by inclusiveness would post than a thread of substantial significance. As if gender matters to begin with. At least, your daffy outrage is a hint that I reached my goal. I get a kick out of the reaction of the likes of you. Congrats for passing off as a jackass whereas everybody else replied in a level headed way. Bonus for you, I leave this line in red to stir the salt on you. Enjoy ;) Dude, you've spent more time responding to me than I have to you. And you were the one so "triggered" that you had to go back and edit your post just to try to piss me off further, haha. Anyhow you've still brought your beef with feminists and "inclusiveness" and whatevercrap into a thread where someone just asked a simple question, by reading way too hard into the question through your own colored lenses. But hey, if you're gonna insist on reading a political meaning into things that don't have one, I guess I can't stop you from making a fool of yourself. |
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| The only one I know is Akidearest but her videos don't really appeal to me. Not analytical enough. |
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| Well, things that female anime fans like might differ from male anime fans. I mean, I don't want to hear girls talk about their husbando or their favorite gay shipping. |
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| Maybe because most female youtubers have nothing interesting to say apart from: Look at my bewbs! Despite what they believe most women have nothing interesting to say to male viewers and since most anime viewers are men you can connect the dots right? Apart from reeing about how mysoginistic biology is most women have little to say about anime. And they generalky get lost in unimportant details. @trenchantbaka if you will not say it I will: women are unfunny. There are some exceptions like Rumiko Takahashi but they are the small exception. There are many reasons this is but to put it simply men have to be funny to go through life and maybe find a mate but women do not need to. Being funny generally needs tge ability to be able to laugh at yourself and most women cannot do this. |
nightcrawlercypApr 21, 2019 11:05 PM
| Is akidearest even an anituber, like, in the "traditional" sense? I don't watch her videos but she doesn't look like the kind of anituber that does video analysis and talks mainly about anime. She always appeared to me as a trend-tuber, you know. She does dumb challenges and really clickbaity titles, and some videos have really sexual undertones (trying Japanese bras, doing revealing cosplay ...). Not really my cup of tea. But, to be honest, it's surely an interesting argument. There's no female anituber that I can say that I like ... There's not even that many, I can name like three lmao. |
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