| he created my top 3 mangas and also created my all time favorite anime. I just find him to be the most talented mangaka out there. I just want to know your thoughts on him, guys. is it a YAY or NAY? |
| preetetoonius as hell prefer hiro mashima |
Edward Elric > your waifu  |
| dropped monster after 12ep dropped century boys after 15 chapter i don't like his works but "elitists" do |
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| He's a great mangaka, I'm currently reading 20th century boys and pluto and both are pretty entertaining in their own ways. An absolute favourite, I like most of his works. Now, I'd like to know your opinion on this @frostbytes kun. |
S-quare22Apr 7, 2018 1:36 PM
  "elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches"  |
| One of the best storytellers that has ever graced the medium. 20th Century Boys is pure bae. |
  ✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ 鼻をくすぐるGunpowder & Smoke ジャララ飛び交うEmpty gun cartridges 紅いヒールに見惚れて うっかり風穴欲しいヤツは 挙手をしな ･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ 🍰 ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ♡‧₊˚ ✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ |
| I absolutely loved Monster but I'm yet to try any of his other works. Pluto will probably be first up. tragedydesu said: I really hope this is bait loli don't like his works but "elitists" do |
tragedydesu said: I really hope this is bait loli don't like his works but "elitists" do you can never tell with tragedydesu |
sugasweetnitmareApr 7, 2018 1:56 PM
✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ 鼻をくすぐるGunpowder & Smoke ジャララ飛び交うEmpty gun cartridges 紅いヒールに見惚れて うっかり風穴欲しいヤツは 挙手をしな ･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ 🍰 ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ♡‧₊˚ ✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ |
| So we're freaking out about others opinions now? Hm. I've heard they're pretty good so i'm planning to watch/read them at a later date when I have time. On a side note, wouldn't this be more appropriate for manga discussion? |
I'm a shitposter for fun |
ZionPulse said: So we're freaking out about others opinions now? Hm. I've heard they're pretty good so i'm planning to watch/read them at a later date when I have time. On a side note, wouldn't this be more appropriate for manga discussion? But He worked on monster (the anime) so both boards are appropriate if you ask me. Not so sure because I've heard too many rumors about this topic. |
"elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches" |
S-quare22 said: But the person talks about his manga in greater quantities than anime. They also refer to him as a mangaka rather than an original creator. ZionPulse said: So we're freaking out about others opinions now? Hm. I've heard they're pretty good so i'm planning to watch/read them at a later date when I have time. On a side note, wouldn't this be more appropriate for manga discussion? But He worked on monster (the anime) so both boards are appropriate if you ask me. Not so sure because I've heard too many rumors about this topic. |
ZionPulseApr 7, 2018 2:23 PM
| I'm a shitposter for fun |
| The only works I've read from him are Monster and 20th Century Boys. Monster was fantastic, on the other hand 20th Century Boys left a bit to be desired, but I still found it entertaining. I adore his distinct character art style, it isn't the best out there but the expressions and environments are superb. And from what I've seen of him on Urasawa Naoki no Manben and his interviews, he seems like a pretty chill guy. So, yay for me. tragedydesu said: i don't like his works but "elitists" do This mentality is retarded, and I hope for your sake that you're joking. |
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| He's a fantastic author/mangaka. I loved Monster, loved 20th Century Boys even more, Pluto was great as well, even Yawara was fun, albeit kinda slow and repetitive and carried by the side characters. Can't wait to finally get to Billy Bat once the finally volume is available. He's not my favorite Mangaka tho. Between him, Tezuka, Asano and Taniguchi I honestly have a hard time picking a favorite, but if I had to it'd probably be Taniguchi. Summit of the Gods is just my favorite manga of all time, and he did so much more than that. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
tragedydesu said: Wow, you've literally seen nothing out of those series then. Wasted and also reminding that you apparently have shit taste. :^)dropped monster after 12ep dropped century boys after 15 chapter i don't like his works but "elitists" do |
Klad said: tragedydesu said: Wow, you've literally seen nothing out of those series then. Wasted and also reminding that you apparently have shit taste. :^)dropped monster after 12ep dropped century boys after 15 chapter i don't like his works but "elitists" do So may I ask if you're a fan of him? Or why do you like his works? |
Pullman said: He's a fantastic author/mangaka. I loved Monster, loved 20th Century Boys even more, Pluto was great as well, even Yawara was fun, albeit kinda slow and repetitive and carried by the side characters. Can't wait to finally get to Billy Bat once the finally volume is available. He's not my favorite Mangaka tho. Between him, Tezuka, Asano and Taniguchi I honestly have a hard time picking a favorite, but if I had to it'd probably be Taniguchi. Summit of the Gods is just my favorite manga of all time, and he did so much more than that. Billy bat is a masterpiece, naoki used symbolism for the first time in this manga Bily bat is really thought provoking and insane, I highly recommend it, fellow cowboy bebop fan. |
Signifie said: The only works I've read from him are Monster and 20th Century Boys. Monster was fantastic, on the other hand 20th Century Boys left a bit to be desired, but I still found it entertaining. I adore his distinct character art style, it isn't the best out there but the expressions and environments are superb. And from what I've seen of him on Urasawa Naoki no Manben and his interviews, he seems like a pretty chill guy. So, yay for me. tragedydesu said: i don't like his works but "elitists" do This mentality is retarded, and I hope for your sake that you're joking. Why though? 20th century boys was almost flawless and addictive. |
tragedydesu said: dropped monster after 12ep dropped century boys after 15 chapter i don't like his works but "elitists" do Do you even know the meaning of elitism or are you just memeing? |
losmena said: yeah, you can see from my fav. mangakas in my profile. Klad said: Wow, you've literally seen nothing out of those series then. Wasted and also reminding that you apparently have shit taste. :^) So may I ask if you're a fan of him? Or why do you like his works? I like the way he unfolds his stories and he's created two of the best antagonists ever |
losmena said: Pullman said: He's a fantastic author/mangaka. I loved Monster, loved 20th Century Boys even more, Pluto was great as well, even Yawara was fun, albeit kinda slow and repetitive and carried by the side characters. Can't wait to finally get to Billy Bat once the finally volume is available. He's not my favorite Mangaka tho. Between him, Tezuka, Asano and Taniguchi I honestly have a hard time picking a favorite, but if I had to it'd probably be Taniguchi. Summit of the Gods is just my favorite manga of all time, and he did so much more than that. Billy bat is a masterpiece, naoki used symbolism for the first time in this manga Bily bat is really thought provoking and insane, I highly recommend it, fellow cowboy bebop fan. yeah as I said, I already got 18 volumes on my shelf, the 19th came out in January and the final one is coming out in Mai so I'll most likely get to it during the summer. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| His works don't look like anything that I would want to watch. |
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| I do like the fact that he's definitely writing for adults, I sure loved Pluto, and visually, he's quite pleasing, in a realistic and not very fancy style. But there's a but. Mostly his repetitive gimmicks, wich become unbearable in the long run for me (Monster's flashbacks, people shaking when Johan is mentionned, offscreen gunshots for cheap suspense), and also his habit of not showing the action, and... said action not being particularly thrilling when it actually happens on-screen (Literally 90% of the fights of Pluto were skipped in favor of more shaking characters, and I'm butthurt at having to endure a long-ass "Tenma learns to use a gun" arc, to then see... the various action scenes involving guns, wich tried to look down-to-earth but were neither exciting or very credible. And yes, this includes THAT Runge scene. Basically, Urasawa in 5 volumes? Yes! Urasawa in 18 volumes or 64 episodes? Huuuh, I think I'll pass and go read Gunnm again. @simo796 Nice compatibility we have there, I thik I'll stay away from 20th Century Boys (^: |
DeathkoApr 7, 2018 4:03 PM
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| I didnt know him till now because you made me search for him , and get KNOWLEDGE about him so I have any thoughts. I read that he is a great mangak.However I never read any manga made by him , but if I ever read one, it would be PINEAPPLE ARMY for sure. |
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| I only read monster, but yeah it's good and i think I'll read the rest if i feel like it |
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| I'd say he's pretty awesome to be honest. I've seen people criticize him quite a lot, I think he has some gimmicks, but I don't mind them and I like that he's really good at keeping the reader's attention. |
密室殺人はなぜ美しいのか。 |
losmena said: Signifie said: The only works I've read from him are Monster and 20th Century Boys. Monster was fantastic, on the other hand 20th Century Boys left a bit to be desired, but I still found it entertaining. I adore his distinct character art style, it isn't the best out there but the expressions and environments are superb. And from what I've seen of him on Urasawa Naoki no Manben and his interviews, he seems like a pretty chill guy. So, yay for me. This mentality is retarded, and I hope for your sake that you're joking. Why though? 20th century boys was almost flawless and addictive. Addictive, sure, but not flawless. Fortunately Frostbytes and topazio already covered my main complaints so I don't feel the need to expand on them that much. While the earlier stages of the story are well-crafted and start out strong, it ultimately falls apart as it nears the end, particularly around the second time skip (I think it was the second, anyways). Both Monster and 20th Century Boys have a sizeable cast and the scope of the stories grow greatly as they progress however 20CB is notably weaker in these two regards as characters and subplots are introduced only to be set aside. It feels like some only served to extend the length of the series and drag it out, more than to fulfill any meaningful purpose, which is a killer for a 22 volume mystery. As a result, I felt the ending itself didn't pay off and left me feeling unsatisfied. I do have some other minor grievances as well but they're minor compared to those mentioned. Still, I'd say it's worth reading for any mystery fan. I'd also like to give it a second chance in the future and re-read it. |
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| DxD made you read a light novel 😏. |
 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
| Narrative and storytelling master hands down. |
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| amazing story setter but suffer from developing story because introducing too many conflict, side story, and character that made pace and ending suffer also sometimes can be repetitive at times... while his art is not amazing, he can convince me with amazing simplistic expression... tho his background is excelecnt, i can't tell if it's his own works, or assistant who made it... as his tendency to show less, sometimes, he is too rely on it make it unsatisfying and abrupt.... personaly pluto>>20th cebtury boys>>yawara=monster=master keaton>billy bat (soo far, but looking at his record, i don't think it will getting better)>>21st century boys the lowest ranked 7 btw.... that's showing how excelent he is... i havent watch any of his anime adaptation btw... |
KumaApr 7, 2018 5:57 PM
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
tragedydesu said: i don't like his works but "elitists" do and elitists don't think attack on titan and death note are masterpieces but you do besides, I've never seen monster but there's a very high probability that its far superior to death note |
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| I love his work even though I've only read Monster and a good chunk of 20th Century Boys. His anime adaptations can feel a little dragged though. |
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| I only have watched Monster so far and it was damn great. I'm on Pluto right now and really got me into it |
ReeeiApr 7, 2018 11:31 PM
| One of my favorite mangaka and still at the top of my list mostly because of Monster. I love how he writes characters (especially when taking in account the side characters), how he builds up tension and how he draws facial expressions. However I'd say resolutions tend to be his weakness (ending of a manga in particular). As for being the most talented mangaka I am not sure about that, Inoue Takehiko has become one of my favorites recently after reading Real (+ Slam Dunk and Vagabond beforehand), but he's another author with frustrating hiatuses. |
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| 20th Century Boys felt kind of plodding after reading just one volume, but I absolutely loved Pluto. It kind of makes me want to go back to 20th Century Boys. His art is fantastic, as is what I've read of his writing. I still need to read more of his work before coming to a consensus on my opinion about him, though. |
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| Genius author who writes very immersive stories with great characters. I love Monster and Master Keaton and the 20th Century Boys live action films were great too. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
-Judar- said: tragedydesu said: i don't like his works but "elitists" do and elitists don't think attack on titan and death note are masterpieces but you do besides, I've never seen monster but there's a very high probability that its far superior to death note That was just my opinion and i'm not afraid of express it I can't care less if everyone like monster Death note hooked me with it first ep in the other hand monster was painfully boring nothing in the world can change my opinion about it |
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| Admittedly i've watched only watched half of it, but I couldn't see what people find interesting in monster. It didn't give me any reason to care about anything that happened so far. |
| he can start a great story and continue a great story but he has no clue on how to finish a great story |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Clebardman said: I do like the fact that he's definitely writing for adults, I sure loved Pluto, and visually, he's quite pleasing, in a realistic and not very fancy style. But there's a but. Mostly his repetitive gimmicks, wich become unbearable in the long run for me (Monster's flashbacks, people shaking when Johan is mentionned, offscreen gunshots for cheap suspense), and also his habit of not showing the action, and... said action not being particularly thrilling when it actually happens on-screen (Literally 90% of the fights of Pluto were skipped in favor of more shaking characters, and I'm butthurt at having to endure a long-ass "Tenma learns to use a gun" arc, to then see... the various action scenes involving guns, wich tried to look down-to-earth but were neither exciting or very credible. And yes, this includes THAT Runge scene. Basically, Urasawa in 5 volumes? Yes! Urasawa in 18 volumes or 64 episodes? Huuuh, I think I'll pass and go read Gunnm again. @simo796 Nice compatibility we have there, I thik I'll stay away from 20th Century Boys (^: but clebard senpaii..there's something wrong here. utena has too many re-used scenes and repititive content (the flashbacks, unnecessary dialogues and introducing uninteresting characters). it was also really slow and very very repititive.. I see you're also complaining about his unsatisfying endings though utena and NGE have the most unsatisfying/confusing endings I've seen in my entire life. and why do you care about the action? I mean...why add cheap action scenes to a mystery show? I also want to point out that nge, flcl and utena have bad action scenes. the psychological aspects saved these shows tbh. and the "tenma learning how to use guns" arc was like 3 episodes long? like, seriously? I think you disliked monster because you aren't into long stuff and nothing shocks you. unexpected scenes is what makes monster unique and entertaining, I would argue. |
S-quare22Apr 8, 2018 10:53 AM
"elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches" |
| Urasawa's success is mainly based on his three famous mystery manga : 20th Century Boys, Monster and Pluto. He is quite good at writing the build-ups for his stories : he sets up interesting characters and settings and introduces the mystery elements at an effective pace. However, the acme of the story is where he usually fails ; the situations he sets up are too unrealistic and complex for him to be able to resolve them in a satisfying manner, which is obviously a huge problem : when you write a mystery, you are essentially preparing your plot and characters to a resolution that is a huge payoff for these characters and for the reader, and that makes everything seem coherent. Urasawa always chooses to prioritize the journey over the goal, at the risk of seeing the entire edifice of his story crumble, which has worked wonders for him as a number of manga and anime fans love his works despite their major flaws. Personally, I also think he is quite bad at writing believable and interesting antagonists ; for example, J. Liebert and Friend act ridiculously and are defined almost essentially by what we don't know about them. (Their reasons for acting as they do end up being as absurd as the way they act.) What's more, Urasawa's usage of plot devices is severely lacking in subtlety and it often seems to me that he is actually writing stories for teenagers and not adults ; his plots are full of coincidences, and his characters are largely based on conventions, but nonetheless some of them are very likeable. I suppose one could say he uses the medium at its fullest potential, so much so that it becomes artificial. Lastly, I think he is a very good drawer : his characters and settings look great and favor immersion greatly. |
thizlasAug 19, 2018 5:22 AM
| @S-quare22 @Clebardman It probably boils down to Ikuhara's repetition not being to your liking, as well as Urasawa's not being to his. I personally love the ZUM sequence and Mikage's seminar footage Utena's ending confusing you isn't really the show's fault. The ending itself wraps everything perfectly without letting loose ends The dialogue in the last third becomes so ambiguous that you have people analysing what it meant untill now. It may be that confused you, but again it's not the show's fault... Characters either have their own arc or are an essentital part of the duelist's struggles. Shiori and Rukka for Juri, Kozue for Miki, and so it goes. You have some "extra" characters but they have their own importance, especially in the black rose arc, and are tied to the duelists; directly or not. The most "extra" case could be Tatsuya since he's just tied to Wakaba, but the rest - even Nanami's slaves - have their impact on the main cast I also want to add that Nanami fillers are absolutely amazing |
llorandoApr 8, 2018 10:34 AM
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