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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Whoa, Jeanne made a bold move by descending from the heavens. Seeing Rita and Nina in those devil outfits were priceless. They look so funny LOL. Looks like we got a kiss this epsiode. Interesting relationship development between Nina and Charioce XVI :D I like where this is going.  |
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| Man I really don't know what to feel about Charioce. It's like the show keeps baiting that he's actually fighting for "the other side" except it goes back and forth all the time. Not sure what I'm supposed to believe at this point I like his and Nina's relationship though. Although I'm sure it'll be filled with pain towards the end one way or another, it at least feels quite unorthodox by normal anime standards |
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| WOW they kissed!! Nina x Charioce is in full force! We know a bit more about Charioce's backstory now as his mom died when Bahamut unleashed his fire. He has a certain goal in mind but wants to tell it to Nina the next time he sees her. Animation was so good! Charioce playing with the demon kids was unexpected. He's being watched by his own crew as they already suspect the Red Dragon. |
| Rita and Nina in those demon outfit... Nina learned how to control her transformation. I liked the development of Charioce and Nina's relation. But that ending with those guys in black armour, seems like they will plot something. It's going to turn dark real quick. Charioce showed his kind side when he was playing with those demon kids. But I still don't know what to think of that guy. I'm really looking forward to see what his true aims are. Will he be one of those tragic heroes? |
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| This episode was everything we love about Nina x Charioce ship. The demon disguises were fabulous! And I wonder what Charioce is actually planning. Does the captain know Nina is the red dragon?! So many questions! |
| lol Charioce have a double personality it seems (the king vs the lover of Nina) once he go King mode he wants to kill even Nina welp at least there is a kiss scene between Charioce and Nina there that made Nina completely master her dragon transformation and my gosh goddess Sofiel is one hot MILF if she is one lol |
| That happened way too quickly. The romance for this episode felt a bit rushed to me & I honestly wasn't expecting Charioce x Nina to happen so soon. I don't know how I should feel about Charioce at this point. I'm starting to think he has some split personality or a secret twin bc his Charioce and Chris personalities differ so much. Does he seriously like Nina at this point or is he just plotting to use her?? What's do I believe?! *pulls hair* That said, the final scene focused a lot of the necklace Chris gave her..... Maybe there's some kind of magic tracker on that thing?? Maybe I'm over thinking it to much lol |
ohanaeJul 28, 2017 1:22 PM
| Wow, that was unexpected, Nina looked so cute in that outfit <3 |
| WOAH i was not expecting that to happen. Not so soon anyways. Honestly, i am not the biggest fan of the romance between the King and Nina but this episode has made me change my mind. Slightly. It is difficult to tell without knowing his full backstory and what his endgame is, but i like where this is going. Those disguises though... Team Rocket would be proud...    |
AUOdere said: eeeeeeehhh idk, I really loved Charioce and Nina in the beginning but this felt pretty rushed and pretty cringy? It would have been better if they showed a collage of them meeting up frequently over a small period of peace, slowly warming the two of them up for romance. It was just so jarring for Charioce to go from an emotional 0 to 100 in just 10 minutes. They had so much potential you have to remember to turn on your suspension of disbelief when it comes to fiction because its not reality man |
| Well that escalated quickly! Didn't expect them to reach this stage so soon. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I didn't think Nina and Charioce's relationship would reach this point this quickly. For some reason I feel like Charioce still has something he's hiding, and I feel like his relationship with Nina will end tragically. After seeing what the knight said at the end, it should be interesting to see how the story, as well as Nina and Charioce's relationship, progresses from here. Also, I know I can't be the only one who was annoyed by the fact that Nina knocked over the tombstone and then neither she nor Charioce fixed it...... |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| The Thick Plottens... So the really big question is - Is Charioce just a pretty good actor taking advantage of the gullibility of a back woods teen? That little semi-confession of his seemed sort of lame, even though Nina bought it hook, line and sinker. But if Charioce is just leading Nina on - the question is why? What use can she be to him, other than pumping his ego when he is out on a stroll? Of course, one of the problems that we the audience have is that we don't know why and how Charioce became able to be the unquestioned leader of his troops and the undisputed ruler of his kingdom. He may not be just a son of the prior king and a random peasant girl. Oh well, it's those sorts of questions that make this series so much fun to watch. |
| What a lovely epiosode! They really set the mood between Charioce and Nina right, and even their conversation was well-though and was flowing well unlike any other Nina eccentrics. I really do think they make better better people of themselves mutually. Don't think Charioce is actually faking that (as many could imply by his determined look towards the end), I honestly think he was having fun during that football matcha and also with her, shedding weight of the crown at least for few moments. Even though it's clear his goal whatever it is comes first even if he has to use Nina. Well, who knows, now he has red dragon by his side. |
dbaranyi said: But if Charioce is just leading Nina on - the question is why? What use can she be to him, other than pumping his ego when he is out on a stroll? I think part of the problem for him is that he always has to stay in the role of the king in front of his people for their sake, never waver, putting so much pressure on his shoulders - his role is basically given by his stature and there isn't too much room for any maneuvers. He represents all the people and not just himself and that's why he simply can't do whatever he wants. That's why he has to condemn Kaisar before in the arena - even though he let him run - and that's also why he gave an order to kill red dragon on sight to his commander. And that's why he enjoys those little slums strolls so much cause he can have no worries and simply be someone else. Really don't think he planned his fateful meeting with Nina from the beginning and the words he said in this episode was probably without lies. Although I don't think he actually loves her. But at the same time I belive that if he has to use the red dragon any time in the future he would probably use her as his goal is still number one for him. Would be interesting to watch how his conflicted mind take pressure of future events. Oh, and I forgot to post this ED card, Nina was especially cute on this one :)  |
| Lovely episode. Nina and Rita look great in their disguise as demons. I didn't think Nina and Charioce's relationship would be like this so quickly. They had some nice moments. Got to know some backstory for him. Both lost someone to Bahamut. She's now able to transform into a dragon willingly. I'm conflicted on how I feel about Charioce. The guy at the end thinks Nina has him under a spell. |
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| How to train your dragon: Riding the dragon girl |
| Oh boy, this episode had everything I wished for and I honestly teared up a bit. I'm totally digging the romance subplot and Ninas happiness is a pleasure to watch, unfortunately I'm pretty sure it won't take a happy end for this ship :/ Nina and Rita in their outfits were awesome btw. Overall very sweet episode, this is still my favorite airing show. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| The romance might feel rushed, but the anime only has very few episodes left so i think its okay. Charioce showed a lot of emotion this episode; he was crying while flying on dragon Nina so I do think he really loves her, even if the last scene suggests he might want to use her powers for whatever his plan is. I still think Charioce is gonna die at the end however. |
| Please understand. |
| If this isn't a trick by Charioce, this has to be one of the lamest episodes I've ever seen lol. |
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EASILY BEST EPISODE YET >w< Mmkay, now I'm convinced that Charioce isn't faking - just look at his puupy eyes, there's no way he just wants to deceive poor Nina, dammit! His reactions and frustration also seemed genuine to me. I just wonder what could be so important ambition of his, that he plans to use Bahamut's power to achieve it... And what the hell happened to Favaro? He went after Nina and we didn't see him again lol. I'm gonna call this now, the ultimate bad guy will be the dark knight with the rest of the army, they are already suspicious about Charioce's going soft on red dragon. Also, brr, I have a bad feeling that king will die before the end of the series, sacrificing himself to save Nina or getting suddenly killed by El, or something like that. I just can't see this ending happily for this couple, I mean they kissed before the end of series... T_T That's never a good sign! Btw, almost forgot, moustache Nina killed me xD |
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| Something I just thought of/remembered... Favio was supposed to follow Nina. I wonder if he saw as much as the Black Knights saw... That would add complications... |
| Awesome episode. Rita & Nina look great in their demon outfits. Jeanne & Sofiel off to find El. Such Bravery seeing Jeanne just drop. Unexpected Nina & Chris/Charioce date. That was a cute kiss. I am torn. On one hand I like Chris/Charioce, but on the other he has his own agenda as King & I believe he will hurt Nina. The look in his eye after Nina left. Cool that Nina knows how to control her Dragon transformation. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| I was Charioce X Nina ship before but after this episode, I have a bad feeling that Charioce is totally using her. Damn, he finally got the red dragon in his palm.. too bad Nina is the type of girl that you can manipulate easily... *facepalm* |
| Wasn't a big fan of this episode. They're pushing this romance just a little to hard for my liking. The upside to this though is that it's beginning to feel like a more believable relationship, so I'll come around to it eventually if it remains consistent. Romance aside. I'm glad that at least Sofiel can be reasoned with, and (surprise surprise) Gabriel seems like she's on the verge of having a total temper tantrum/meltdown. I'm starting to think it might be a control issue with her. It seems like everything she does is a desperate attempt to get people to listen to, follow, or worship her. It seems like an inferiority complex to those who came before (God and Michael) who had more success with this. Lastly, it seems that the commander of the (shadow troopers? (lol)) is about to undergo a heel turn, and may end up turning on Charioce. |
| Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast. Yeah. I said it. |
| Romance seems a bit forced tbh, and that ending with eyes... Lol. Inb4 she gets used. |
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| This episode almost got me to tears. Makes me wonder if something tragic to come later... T_T |
| It's becoming so cringe worthy. The romance seems extremely forced. I'm really trying not to drop this, solely because I love all the original characters but man. Maybe I shouldn't have expected Virgin Soul to top Genesis. Only a few episodes left so I'll stick around. |
LunarPisces1Jul 29, 2017 12:07 AM
| Rita looks damn sexy with that outfit. :3 So Nina is having taking a "couple" time AKA date Mission" with Charioce to gather some Intel. But in the end Nina is having a real date with Charioce instead. |
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henz said: What happened to the other Archangels? Where's Uriel, Raphael and Michael? Are they dead? arent those 3 killed by Demon Jeanne D Arc in season 1? |
| This is one romance that's not gonna end well, but then again Nina has the prior experience of her Master Favarooo to pull her through.... As for Charioce's two faced mentality, I actually think he was quite honest in admitting his side of things. As the illegitimate son of the previous king, he was conveniently put into power by people who thought they could control him, and for a while it probably was true since all he wanted was vengeance against the demons and gods for the death of his mother (he admitted as much this episode). Nina's appearance threw him into a loop, and now his handlers are getting suspicious of his intentions. Whatever he does, he now has to maintain the facade that he's working for the kingdom's sake, even if his heart probably wants otherwise. But I gotta say, I wonder if Favaro actually caught their conversation.... because if he did things are gonna get quite interesting from now on. |
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| Okay, this episode was an improvement on the last few because it actually tried to do something to humanise Charioce, but there is one major problem I have with what he said: as viewers, we have seen NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to suggest that Charioce has had any doubts or any misgivings about anything he's done since meeting Nina. From then up until this episode, he has consistently acted as the psychopathic King that he is, so the show has entirely failed to make this romance or Charioce's claims seem remotely plausible to us as viewers. This is not helped by Nina conveniently learning to control her transformations after Charioce's kiss without any kind of logic or anything to support it; also, I feel like that's something that they could have made feel far more important than it did here, as it almost feels like the show doesn't even care about it because of how much it wants to force this terrible romance. Also, where the hell did Favaro disappear to go? They made a big deal of him going after Nina when she left, but then we saw nothing of him for the rest of the episode. Sure, he could have been following them in the shadows, but if Charioce could see his Onyx Knights doing so, I would assume he could have seen Favaro as well. Hopefully whatever Charioce is hiding from Nina still is so significant that it can actually justify this nonsensical romance and everything else, but after how this episode failed to sell Charioce as sympathetic I expect absolutely nothing on that front. |
| Damn Nina (and Ritas) demon outfits where really nice! (Makes me miss Amira a bit less, only a bit!) But where is Cerberus? Need more Cerberus for sure! I cant help it but the romance feels a bit forced. But it was still cute and one could call it destiny so I can take it. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
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