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Jan 24, 2016 4:19 PM

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OMG brutal, All those people died in front of Kudelia

FUMITAN NOOOOOOOOOOOO AHHHHHH T________T
 
Jan 24, 2016 4:31 PM

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that was beautiful.
 
Jan 24, 2016 5:49 PM

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Sayonara, Fumitan...
 
Jan 24, 2016 6:18 PM

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even though we knew it was coming it was still sad to see her go ;-;


but seriously everything going as plan all i can think is how "They played us like a damn fiddle!"



side note new Gusion looks hype lost a lot of weight too
 
Jan 24, 2016 6:24 PM

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The moment we saw Fumitan take a breath seeing Kudelia closeby TV, while one of those snipers from Gjallarhorn said "She's tough. She's still alive.", was when you knew, Fumitan was done for. R.I.P.

The death tool's high this week on both Iron-Blooded Orphans & Schwarzesmarken, though IBO definitely had more impact due to the all the buildup.

Whats even more interesting is how are protagonists are mainly a mercenary group that didn't really want to get caught between all this. Thought clash with Gjallarhorn will be inevitable eventually.
 
Jan 24, 2016 6:54 PM

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Predictable for the past couple weeks, but it was still sad.
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
 
Jan 24, 2016 7:17 PM

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well that was fairly good, well except for how Kudelia was able to just magically be the only one to survive that fucking sweep, that was stupid. They're supposed to explain that away by having the workers eat all the bullets for her, but they fucked up the layout for the shot and it just looks bad.

that aside I do like the direction they're going with this. One now wonders whether or not they will be able to conclude this neatly with the episodes they have left because it feels like we're just getting started.
 
Jan 24, 2016 7:30 PM

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Another wonderful episode. While Fumitan's death was a long time coming and fairly obvious, it still had an impact due to this show's excellent characterization. I predict some major character development for Kudelia in the coming episodes, and of course some great action - looking forward to it.
 
Jan 24, 2016 7:40 PM

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Everything happened as expected. GH did the dick move and massacred the workers, Fumitan sacrificed herself to save the airheaded Kudelia. Just wow. Perfectly executed.

I'm tried to force away the tears because stupid Fumitan deserved it. But its still so sad, why do they always change their mind last minute!
 
Jan 24, 2016 8:23 PM

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We all saw this coming, but sad end for Fumitan all the same.
 
Jan 24, 2016 8:29 PM

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I knew it. My friend was telling me that the death flags wouldn't work, but I knew they would for Fumitan. RIP. That was sad.

The brutality of Gjallarhorn made me cringe a bit. A full massacre is just... wrong. Ugh, I hate politics and this kind of violence.


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Jan 24, 2016 8:38 PM

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Dang... The feels in this episode was STRONG.
This is becoming one of the strongest gundam season so far.


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Jan 25, 2016 1:51 AM

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What an episode, The tension, The ominous death flag. I was speechless throughout.

That massacre, No shit given by Gjallarhorn. Just straight out massacre.

I expected Fumitan to die saving her but it was still really sad.

Kudelia has finally seen the reality of war, Perhaps now she will finally rise up now as a true Maiden of the Revolution.
 
Jan 25, 2016 4:34 AM

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Great episode. For the first half the tension and chaos were pretty concrete. Then came the flag's result, which was predictable as hell. The rest? Not so much.

Next week gonna be so action-filled! hypehype
 
Jan 25, 2016 5:38 AM

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Fumitan did the right thing.
Hope the rebels will take down the Gjallarhorn.
If Teiwaz will ally to Gjallarhonr, Tekkadan will be their Nº1 enemy, can't believe that they are doing this...
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Jan 25, 2016 6:34 AM

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Predictable episode. But good stuff nonetheless.
 
Jan 25, 2016 8:43 AM
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Predictable but still pretty damn good, I think the actual death scene was handled well.

LauraBirdie said:
Still waiting for that official confirmation of a second season, how else are they gonna wrap this up?
There definitely needs to be a 2nd season, theres too many factions at play and alot of ambiguity to what mcgillis is trying to do. I cant imagine this wrapping up in only 9 episodes. There needs to be a 2nd season or the show is bust.


Can anybody help explain what military/security factions were at play during the blockade of the colony group? I heard them talking about one security faction starting with a T earth protection fleet etc.(Can't check atm), then another L7 or something of the sort also showing up (Right before/during the discussion on the bridge of the Gjallarhorn ship outside the colonies waiting for entry.
 
Jan 25, 2016 4:11 PM

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Raise your flag at half mast for Fumitan.
 
Jan 25, 2016 4:51 PM
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It was hard to watch the smokescreen go up and hear people dying, especially how the Union tried to stop the rest from shooting back at the Gjallarhorn. They weren't the ones who started it. And then Kudelia holding the person in her arms, asking why. It all build up to the heartwrenching scene where Fumitan sacrifices herself. I didn't think I would cry for Fumitan but they did a really good job this episode setting up for her death. I understand Fumitan's view of Kudelia very well. When you've seen a lot more than a sheltered person, you can't help but hate those bright eyes, because you can't see the hope. Yet in the end, you can't hate that person either, for the exact same reason. People are attracted to the light, and they want to see hope even if they consciously deny it. I like how Fumitan never wearing the necklace was not because she would "betray" Kudelia, but it was because she felt unworthy of it. And that's just sad, because it makes further shows Fumitan's complicated feelings towards Kudelia. Also, Mika's words that "that is no longer Fumitan" was a shock . Not in a good or bad way, but it was shocking to me. But also very Mika.

Teiwaz leader at the end though. Guess he wants profit just like everyone else...?



I interpreted the events just like you.
 
Jan 25, 2016 5:31 PM
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That scene where kudelia was holding the dead activists got to me. It was very emotional, the director this series knows what he's doing.
 
Jan 25, 2016 6:45 PM

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Damn this sucks for Tekkadan they were used with the weapons cargo and now those scrub Gallahorn faked getting attacked, mowed down a bunch of people who didn't even attack them at the start, and now Tekkadan is going to get drawn into this junk.

It is kind of odd that Kudelia seems like the only person to survive that sweep who was standing out in the open, but I'm guessing that girl who died in her arms and maybe a few others that were around her dove on top of her to prevent her from getting shot. Still kind of unbelievable if they did a bullet sweep like that though with high powered ammo that even goes through tanks should go through bodies like swiss cheese. And also that sniper round should have went through both Fumitan and Kudelia unless she moved Kudelias body out of the way in the process.

Kudelias def got some plot armor in this episode but it was decent none the less.
 
Jan 25, 2016 8:34 PM
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Holy shit, that massacre. The revolution begins.

"That's not Fumitan anymore." Damn, Mika :/
 
Jan 25, 2016 8:56 PM

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I feel bad for cookie older brother he just wanted to help them.

all the co-workers that he wanted to save are dead
 
Jan 26, 2016 2:14 AM
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rip Fumitan :( at least we get to see more action next episode.
 
Jan 26, 2016 6:50 AM
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Will we see another "cutting hair as a symbolic determination" like we're forced to see in any other anime/manga/film?

Anyway, sad episode is sad
 
Jan 26, 2016 3:37 PM
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Zukka said:
I feel bad for cookie older brother he just wanted to help them.

all the co-workers that he wanted to save are dead


Me too here. I feel bad for Savarin's despair more than Fumitan's death, mostly because her death is so predictable.

I really want to see Biscuit and Savarin reconcile with each other
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Jan 26, 2016 8:32 PM
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I only give 3 ratings on any show I watch

10 = Enjoyed it

5 = Average

1 = Hated it
 
Jan 26, 2016 9:13 PM
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Very emotional episode, we all saw her death but RIP Fumitan. One of my favorite characters of the series is gone now :(
 
Jan 27, 2016 2:44 PM

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That... sucks. So much. Now I understand the opening scene when Kudelia looked at that trinket she shared with Fumitan. That hurts. So sad for the both of them. :(
 
Jan 28, 2016 12:37 PM

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Not sure why everyone is sad about Fumitan, she dug her own grave.

A) She would have been fine if she just stuck with Tekkedan.
B) The gang is now stuck there because of her antics.
 
Jan 28, 2016 5:09 PM
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How was Kudelia not hurt in that?.... Plot amour much.
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Jan 28, 2016 5:43 PM

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Kubacki-sama said:
Not sure why everyone is sad about Fumitan, she dug her own grave.

A) She would have been fine if she just stuck with Tekkedan.
B) The gang is now stuck there because of her antics.


A) I don't think it's as easy as that. She'll have to do her "part" eventually. You don't mess with the mob.




B ) The moment they accepted Kudelia's escort mission and being affiliated with Teiwaz in the process sealed their fate. With or without Fumi, they would have been screwed regardless.
 
Jan 29, 2016 2:10 AM

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Comparing Kudelia to Joan of Arc, now that's actually very interesting.

Of course, we all know what happened to Joan in the end...
 
Feb 1, 2016 3:41 PM

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The character designs were a little off-key this episode, IMO- not in the sense of bad drawing, but rather that the designs don't really fit the mood- for example, Kudelia looked way too calm for someone who'd just seen their mentor killed before their eyes. But other than that (which is actually pretty important to me), it was a really good episode. Looks like I've got an excuse to properly check up on my history lessons now, lol.
 
Feb 2, 2016 1:43 AM
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Great, now Fumitan is dead.

WHY NOT BISCUIT'S BROTHER TOO?!! HE SHOULD DIE BECAUSE HE'S AN ASSHOLE, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
 
Feb 2, 2016 4:20 AM

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Somehow i feel bad for Biscuit's big brother. I think he just wanted to help, but yeah he did it in the wrong way (if we look from main character perspective) but it was still reasonable.

And R.I.P Fumitan, i really hope she do not die since last episode but well, her death flag has been flailing too high. It couldn't be helped

 
Feb 6, 2016 11:34 PM

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Fumitan's death was under utilised that I didn't even feel a thing, looks like this isn't going to be an easy battle for Tekkadan as they are outnumbered.
 
Feb 9, 2016 8:53 AM

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Fumitan death is predictable but why I know but still the Feel
 
Feb 14, 2016 4:14 PM

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The saddest part for me was when kudelia said to mikazuki that fumitan was not answering. OMG that was hard to see...
And fumitan died but she did not explain who the fuck are these guys she was working with =(.
She was working for Nobliss? I'm confused
 
Feb 15, 2016 2:55 AM
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The saddest part for me was when kudelia said to mikazuki that fumitan was not answering. OMG that was hard to see...
And fumitan died but she did not explain who the fuck are these guys she was working with =(.
She was working for Nobliss? I'm confused


Yes, she was working for Nobliss, not for Gjallahorn!
 
Feb 15, 2016 1:07 PM

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Celinha87 said:
sun123 said:
The saddest part for me was when kudelia said to mikazuki that fumitan was not answering. OMG that was hard to see...
And fumitan died but she did not explain who the fuck are these guys she was working with =(.
She was working for Nobliss? I'm confused


Yes, she was working for Nobliss, not for Gjallahorn!


thanks for the info \o/
 
Feb 19, 2016 7:02 PM

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I'm glad this part is coming to a close. I'm looking forward to the next real battle with amazing sound effects.
 
Feb 23, 2016 7:16 AM

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just watched from [Manko]
such an emotional/dramatic episode!
Fumitad Admoss is now dead because of she took the shot that was intended for Kudelia.
4/5.
 
Mar 4, 2016 7:03 AM
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Flag expected, but felt real & unexpected at the moment Kudelia realized many will sacrifice for her.
Two oldies plotting together.
ED kids look a bit like South Park.
 
Mar 18, 2016 8:51 AM

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Damn. That was hard to watch. Everyone saw it coming but it was still very powerful. All the poor union workers who only wanted fair treatment, massacred.
I thought Fumitan's death was handled well. It was predictable but still a strong moment. And they didn't go overboard with the melodrama. She protected Kudelia, said her farewells and that was it. Now I want to see how Kudelia's character arc will progress.
My only concern is that right now Gjallarhorn comes across as a generic opressive nation. I hope they'll do a bit more to flesh them out.
 
Mar 18, 2016 4:58 PM

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tingy covered pretty much everything I have to say in regards to Fumitan, but I'd like to add that I agree with some of the other posters here that it feels like this is just getting started, in many ways. A second season would be very much welcome.


Soul-Master said:
My only concern is that right now Gjallarhorn comes across as a generic opressive nation. I hope they'll do a bit more to flesh them out.

I'm not overly concerned with it myself. It's not like bad organizations or forms of government in real life tend to have particularly complex reasons for doing what they do. Money and power explain a lot.
 
Mar 18, 2016 5:39 PM

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TripleSRank said:
tingy covered pretty much everything I have to say in regards to Fumitan, but I'd like to add that I agree with some of the other posters here that it feels like this is just getting started, in many ways. A second season would be very much welcome.


Soul-Master said:
My only concern is that right now Gjallarhorn comes across as a generic opressive nation. I hope they'll do a bit more to flesh them out.

I'm not overly concerned with it myself. It's not like bad organizations or forms of government in real life tend to have particularly complex reasons for doing what they do. Money and power explain a lot.


Its certain that their corruption is realistic and their manipulation as well. Mostly that Gundam typically focuses on the complexity and amibiguity of ideologies and grey morality. But with this depticion of Gjallarhorn, the line is pretty clear. Its not a major concern of mine either really but I hope they add a bit more of their side.
 
Apr 2, 2016 9:11 AM

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THE END for Fumitan.

Seriously, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST KUDELIA, you ignorant little idiot! Everyone was fucking shot like cattle and you're there, sobbing like a fucking little Relena Peacecraft 3.0 (but a hundred times more naive) wondering what's happening? No one is that stupid or that dramatically emotionally attached to a bunch of people they just met in a span of ten seconds.

Kudelia's intense denial, ignorance and drama over Fumitan was so stupid. It didn't make me sad, it pissed me off more than anything. No wonder Fumitan hated you, girl.
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Apr 8, 2016 4:01 PM

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Man that was an awful episode.....
 
Apr 13, 2016 12:31 AM

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Fumitan's voice actress did a great job and made the scene pretty emotional.

It bothers me a little how hard it is to read Mika though. Like what were his intentions behind caressing Atra's cheek? And what's he thinking when he looks at Kudelia? The facial expressions are slightly different from his normal facade, and I'm having a hard time figuring out what was going through his head in those moments
 
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