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| I seriously cant understand all the hate for this show. Gotenks and Ginyu in the same episode. only way to get better now would be Future Trunks coming back with God state aswell. (Which would probably make sense, well.. somehow. ^^) |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Personally enjoyed the episode but I am also a bit of a sucker for Gohan. Always been a fan of his and that will probably never change. It sucks to see how weak he has gotten but it makes sense why he has since he doesn't train. Yet, he is still the strongest out of that group. Nice to have an appearance from Gotenks. No clue why they decided to fuse so far ahead of their arrival. Maybe it was to help them reach the area quicker. *shrugs* Do like how Ginyu made his return after so long but he was able to learn Tagoma's body and power too quickly. And the cliffhanger. That got me good. Was waiting for Gohan to get angry and then it ended. Ah well, another week of waiting. Maybe I'll finally watch the movie in that time. |
| Fucking weak as shit, this bullcrap needs to be over with, the only reason I haven't dropped it is because I still have hope for the next arc. Toriyama is a fucking shithead. |
| Konbu is important |
| Oh! This ep was awesome! And those DBZ scenes ;-; |
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| Poor Piccolo, he's such a good dad. So many tributes to DBZ lmao. Looks like Goku and Vegeta join next episode, so hopefully they'll finish the arc by episode 27-28. |
 "Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?" |
| Maybe this is what it took for Gohan to finally start training again. |
| Overall Good episode, I liked it. But Damn, Gohan being taken out so easily, I mean he was like so badass against cell and even against super buu when he gained those Mystic powers. I was hoping for so much when he transformed, Yet he was taken down by Frieza's Death Rays. He did go Ssj2 right? He should've been able to dish out some damage :| Did they censor the blood or did Frieza's Death Rays never cause people to bleed in the first place? |
Lelouch0202Dec 6, 2015 11:27 PM
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| how the mighty Gohan have fallen, nice to see Ginyu again though |
| PLEASE TELL ME GOHAN TURNS SSJ3 IN THE NEXT EPISODE OUT OF RAGE? HE FREAKING NEEDS TO STEP UP HIS GAME, I NEED TEEN GOHAN'S ATTITUDE AND PERSONALITY BACK. -Why the hell Trunks and Goten didn't turn fused SSJ3 GOTENKS? He could easily do that, he held Majin buu on his own. He could at least handle normal level Freiza. This is ridiculous! |
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| Ok this is getting just ridiculous now... First off not only Frieza but his random grunt got super powerful just training for 4 months.. Then Piccolo who should be stronger than a normal super saiyan at least gets beaten easily. Then Ginyu takes his body, and instantly draws out its power, even though we know he can't do that easily from when he took goku's.... So Gohan says he can't use his full power (which I assume meant his unlocked power?) and has to resort to going super saiyan instead? But even then he would probably be weaker than piccolo as he is not a super saiyan 2 anymore... But he beats him with ease. And then of course Frieza destroys him while he stands still and doe's nothing, you know because he didn't train right? Seriously, I cvan get he isn't at his best, but surely he can sense and see attacks still.. So many inconsistency. I am still trying to enjoy it, even if its more to the DB style than DBZ, maybe they will improve on the fighting though. But seeing Gohan throwing punches shouting yahahaha makes me think not. |
"When everyone else is about to give up, the fighter who becomes the role model, is the true Leader."  |
| So many past references it's so cool, like when Freeza recognizes Goten & Trunks and then another one is Ginyu's change! Gohan is really in a pinch! But being hit while in super saiyan form was so lame of him! Piccolo sacrificed himself for Gohan it's because Piccolo is just like a 2nd father to Gohan! 5/5. |
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kaiser98 said: So let me get this straight. Piccolo who should be AT LEAST imperfect cell level got stomped by Tagoma who wasn't fully powered up but then a weak SSJ1 Gohan was able to stomp a fully powered up Ginyuu. This doesn't make sense to me unless Toriyama forgot about the difference between ssj levels and blended ssj1 and 2 together... Just a wild guess, but I suppose the reason a SSJ 1 Gohan was capable of stomping Ginyuu was because he let his guard down by being surprised? Idk tbh. Anyway nice episode, but poor Piccolo :( Atleast Goku and Vegeta joins next episode! |
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| Tagoma took a shot to the nuts from both Gotenks and Gohan this episode. xD He really should wear some better armor down there, lol. Snappynator said: Just a wild guess, but I suppose the reason a SSJ 1 Gohan was capable of stomping Ginyuu was because he let his guard down by being surprised? Yeah, I like this explanation. I also like how things haven't become SOLELY about the power levels but also fighting ability. It makes the fights more interesting. What I didn't like about this is how much of it is ground that was already tread by DBZ. Ginyu changing bodies is no longer interesting, and it just feels kind of cheap and fanservicey for them to bring him back at this point. |
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| Plothole and bullshit central |
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| Poor Gohan |
| So far I have liked the way they have handled the battle between the forces of Frieza and The Z Warriors... I liked the inclusion of Ginyu + Trunks & Gotenks even fusion didn’t do sh!t against the bad guys... I can feel the impotence of The Z Warriors in this show more than the movie showed, but I have one question where is the F$%#*ng Blood??? how come you have a martial art all anime plus multiple mortal wounds and you didn’t show a pint of blood even when the flashback has blood in them unfreaking believable... Tch… I’m mad as hell! ಠ益ಠ |
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| all those flashbacks my kokoro can't take that nostalgia and Ginyu is back well kinda oh come on Piccolo why you had to save that bitch |
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| Fantastic episode IMHO. All the nods back were great, though using old Z footage kinda was an eh choice, but I guess to them the fact the footage looks dated makes it perfect to instantly tell it's a flashback, but alas. As far as people bitching about Ginyu and Tagoma? Uhh, first off Gohan notices that Tagoma isn't using his full power at first. Second, it's not a matter of Ginyu 'not having trained but somehow still being so powerful'. His whole shtick has always been switching into bodies and then drawing out their full power. So of course he's pulling out the power that Tagoma was holding back on. Not that hard to figure out. Also, I saw Gohan standing in that preview. I hope that means he loses his cool ala Cell Games style after that cliffhanger ending. Hopefully it also means he'll pick up training again on the side of his fatherly & scholarly duties. kaiser98 said: So let me get this straight. Piccolo who should be AT LEAST imperfect cell level got stomped by Tagoma who wasn't fully powered up but then a weak SSJ1 Gohan was able to stomp a fully powered up Ginyuu. This doesn't make sense to me unless Toriyama forgot about the difference between ssj levels and blended ssj1 and 2 together... Okay, but have you forgotten the power raises Gohan received after the Cell Games era with all the things with Supreme Kai and them? It only makes sense that his base Super Saiyan form is higher after all the Majin Buu saga raises. So even if he slacked, and with him saying he's having trouble accessing his full power from lack of training, It's unlikely that the amount he can still access is any lower than what he had at the end of the cell games for Super Saiyan 1 alone. Seems pretty inline to what it should be. |
| Gohan have read too many books. Not so much power left in him. He beat Ginyu, amazing enough (even Goku had trouble beating him ^^), but then he got owned by Vegeta. Yay, we are gonna see Goku and Vegeta fight next week, [SPOILER] Maybe we can see Golden Frieza soon enough and Vegeta/Goku's new blue kami mode. |
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Gidar said: Hmm i think the animation and art quality are finally there, where its watchable for me and im no longer annoyed by derpy faces, shitty editing and horrible fighting scenes ^^ No more fast forwarding to check on the content - yay XD I bet the reason why they put it so many flashbacks, and also in crappy quality is to probably create a bigger contrast and emphasize on how much "better" it looks now. Oh well, some sort of recovery. Still ... there is one major flaw in the story that bugs me .... They still haven't achieved Super sayan Blue , yet alone full control. The ONLY REASON as to why goku/vegeta actually won in Revival of F was due to Frieza coming to earth RIGHT THE MOMENT he achieved golden form and him eventually running out of Fuel , since his body couldn't handle the power .... THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE GOKU AND VEGETA DOING RIGHT NOW?? Exactly the SAME FUCKING THING ... LAST-MINUTE Power-up that STILL hasn't been shown ... the same freakin way frieza got it ... JUST ON EVEN SHORTER NOTICE .... The fuck toriyama ... get your stupid story straight... Some Spoiler alert would be nice, you ass! Not all of us have watched the movie. I prefer to watch it through the series. -.-' |
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| DAYUM!!! So epic ep, i actually teared up a little bit at the end :'( |
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| Personally, I enjoyed the episode but if Gohan doesn't at least muster up that anger like he did in the Cell games, I'm going to be highly disappointed! |
| Gohan better go ssj2 |
| Why are all these people trying to find consistency in a show that never had it ? And remember people, the most important thing in Dragon Ball is training, Gohan is struggling just to keep SSJ form because he hasn't trained at all, he has other things to do in life (like his wife). |
| Great episode ;) Gohan who is turning in Super Saiyan and Piccolo's rescue. That's good |
TehWhiteTiger said: Ok this is getting just ridiculous now... First off not only Frieza but his random grunt got super powerful just training for 4 months.. Then Piccolo who should be stronger than a normal super saiyan at least gets beaten easily. Then Ginyu takes his body, and instantly draws out its power, even though we know he can't do that easily from when he took goku's.... So Gohan says he can't use his full power (which I assume meant his unlocked power?) and has to resort to going super saiyan instead? But even then he would probably be weaker than piccolo as he is not a super saiyan 2 anymore... But he beats him with ease. And then of course Frieza destroys him while he stands still and doe's nothing, you know because he didn't train right? Seriously, I cvan get he isn't at his best, but surely he can sense and see attacks still.. So many inconsistency. I am still trying to enjoy it, even if its more to the DB style than DBZ, maybe they will improve on the fighting though. But seeing Gohan throwing punches shouting yahahaha makes me think not. 1. Yeah, no. Gohan should still be stronger than Piccolo 2. Frieza was moving too fast for him. He couldn't get out of the way. 3. Frieza trained with the grunt. |
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MahadoKusanagi said: What flaws were in this episode, exactly?DBS its just fanservice, ESPECIALLY this arc................but not only fanservice, its probably the stupidest fanservice i've ever seen in Anime. So damn many flaws altogether EVEN for the damn DBZ Universe. Alone in this episode were so many flaws. I dont know what the hell Toriyama is thinking with this. |
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| the powerlevels are so stupid... Piccolo alone should be able to beat all 1000 soldiers in a heartbeat. After all this fights the Z Fighters had, even Ginyu should be no match for them, EVEN WITHOUT ANY TRAINING FOR YEARS. Its like Superman gets beaten by a street level villain with an bat. |
| Awesome ep! |
| A true man never dies. |
The10tailedwolf said: So is this stuff cannon now? Yes. It's always been canon. |
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phreeak said: the powerlevels are so stupid... Piccolo alone should be able to beat all 1000 soldiers in a heartbeat. After all this fights the Z Fighters had, even Ginyu should be no match for them, EVEN WITHOUT ANY TRAINING FOR YEARS. Its like Superman gets beaten by a street level villain with an bat. 1. Power levels are worthless. Also, I didn't realize that you knew the exact strength of Frieza's men. 2.Ginyu has the body of an incredibly strong fighter. |
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| So they brought Ginyu back... though it didn't actually change anything. And Piccolo loses hard against that scum, yeah right... |
| Wow, if Ginyu was able to change this entire time why didn't he do it sooner with someone else? PLOT HOLES. |
bashirdk said: Wow, if Ginyu was able to change this entire time why didn't he do it sooner with someone else? PLOT HOLES. Because there's no one on Earth that can read the thing that he wrote on the ground. |
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| Tagoma was cut short so prematurely, I wanted to see more of that guy playing around, even though he was sure cocky of himself and would have wished one of the Z fighters to have owned him. Regardless, Ginyu coming back is nice to see. You gotta feel his sufferings from being a frog, ha. Poor gohan and piccolo at the end. Frieza went nuts |
| Picollo owned instead of krillin |
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| So sorry but this episode was quite bad...so many things wrong with it - that ridiculous power-up - Ginyu?! Really?! - Gohan being SSJ - lack of blood I hope it'll get better, I really do... |
| I know it's frustrating that Gohan isn't as awesome as he probably could have been by this point. But, I like that he's probably got the most innate pure talent of any of the Z fighters but, because he doesn't train like his father and Vegeta, he's suffered for it. Would be nice if all of this was a wakeup call for him, I'd love to see him reach his potential some day because up until the end of the Cell arc he may have had the best character arc of anyone in the series. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| They really trolled with the fuse.. Anyways funny how goku and vegeta go to get stronger.. but when they are needed they can't even utilize it on time. |
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| Disappointing to see how weak all the favorite heroes have gotten. Frieza doesn't even have to try against Gohan and Piccolo takes the deadly blow...sad |
| I shall rule over the realms of anime and manga! Mwahhahahahaha!!! |
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