Is Legend of the Galactic Heroes amazingly overrated?

Oct 13, 2015 11:53 AM

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Imphie said:

royaldocks said:
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH

Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance

UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.

There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.

Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.

I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.

TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.

This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.

He didn't even mention the positives for LotGH but focused mearly on the negatives. Shit analysis.

All credit goes to Sacred.

Oct 13, 2015 11:54 AM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:

Imphie said:

royaldocks said:
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH

Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance

UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.

There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.

Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.

I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.

TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.

This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.

He didn't even mention the positives for LotGH but focused mearly on the negatives. Shit analysis.

This is why I have trust issues with Fate jerkers.

underneath the stars

Oct 13, 2015 12:13 PM

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FireEmblemIke24 said:

Imphie said:

royaldocks said:
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH

Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance

UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.

There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.

Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.

I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.

TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.

This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.

He didn't even mention the positives for LotGH but focused mearly on the negatives. Shit analysis.

My non biased analysis for both of this popular shows:

My LOTGH analysis :

My Fate/stay Night Visual Novel Analysis:

Fate/stay night takes the set of ideals a lot of fictional stories just run with and says - "but the real world does not work that way" - setting up an indepth exploration on what could motivate person to pursue such a path, thereby deconstructing the idea of heroism and pragmatism and the idea of selfless actions for selfish reasons (namely the idea that the fulfillment of "saving people" can only come from people actually being in peril).

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade.

Oct 13, 2015 12:14 PM

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^ cherrypicking bruh

plus you're not even using fate anime subs

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Oct 13, 2015 12:16 PM

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mayukachan said:
^ cherrypicking bruh

plus you're not even using fate anime subs

Don't worry I'll help him:

Fate is just a porn game. There's nothing left to discuss.

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Oct 13, 2015 12:35 PM

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>LotGH in faves

Such low quality b8

Oct 13, 2015 12:37 PM

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It's really long and I doubt a story can justify such length. I haven't seen anyone making LOGH look attractive other than 'it's really really smart'. I heard the same thing about Mushishi and Ping Pong, and both turned out to be just good.

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Oct 13, 2015 12:57 PM

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royaldocks said:

FireEmblemIke24 said:

Imphie said:

royaldocks said:
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH

Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance

UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.

There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.

Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.

I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.

TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.

This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.

He didn't even mention the positives for LotGH but focused mearly on the negatives. Shit analysis.

My non biased analysis for both of this popular shows:

My LOTGH analysis :

My Fate/stay Night Visual Novel Analysis:

Fate/stay night takes the set of ideals a lot of fictional stories just run with and says - "but the real world does not work that way" - setting up an indepth exploration on what could motivate person to pursue such a path, thereby deconstructing the idea of heroism and pragmatism and the idea of selfless actions for selfish reasons (namely the idea that the fulfillment of "saving people" can only come from people actually being in peril).

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade.

Or fuck that, stay night and LOTGH are both amazing.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

Oct 13, 2015 1:02 PM

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royaldocks said:

FireEmblemIke24 said:

Imphie said:

royaldocks said:
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH

Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance

UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.

There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.

Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.

I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.

TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.

This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.

He didn't even mention the positives for LotGH but focused mearly on the negatives. Shit analysis.

My non biased analysis for both of this popular shows:

My LOTGH analysis :

My Fate/stay Night Visual Novel Analysis:

Fate/stay night takes the set of ideals a lot of fictional stories just run with and says - "but the real world does not work that way" - setting up an indepth exploration on what could motivate person to pursue such a path, thereby deconstructing the idea of heroism and pragmatism and the idea of selfless actions for selfish reasons (namely the idea that the fulfillment of "saving people" can only come from people actually being in peril).

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade.

Pls,
If it were a third-rate TV anime, a dead protagonist can come back to life at the producers’ convenience. But the world we live in is not such a convenient place. Lost lives will never return. Because of it, we live in a world where a life is an irreplaceable existence.
-Dusty Attenborough, LotGH

People die if they're killed.
-Shirou

Anyway it certainly is for 1 out of 10, I mean, all those outdated animation, character designs, classical scores, who gives a fuck.

[I hope people won't take me seriously.]

Oct 13, 2015 1:06 PM

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How did this turn into a Fate/stay cancerous thread?

Oct 13, 2015 1:08 PM

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SuperRed said:
How did this turn into a Fate/stay cancerous thread?

royaldocks is attempting to make even worse bait than this thread.

Oct 13, 2015 1:13 PM

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Imphie said:

royaldocks said:
Fate/stay Night VN is better and more deep than LOTGH

Fate/stay night is a beautiful exercise in the emotional craft of storytelling. It isn't a story about mythological heroes going at war. It's a story about the importance of what heroes represent, and fighting for those ideals. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much more to Fate/stay night than there may seem to be at first glance

UBW's story glides across the surface of an enormous ocean of philosophy. The anime simultaneously questions the metamorphosis of human ideals, man's quest for heroism, etc.

There are thousands of themes seamlessly woven together. Idealism vs Utilitarianism, the importance of hope in the face of adversity, wishes as an inherently selfish act, cultural expectations of good and evil, the contradictory nature of child heroes, redemption, and a whole bunch mythic revisionism and allegory to top it all off.

Don't get me started on the anime itself, every frame tells a second, sometimes even third narrative underneath the first. I think it's statement to its greatness.

Nasu crafted not a game, not a "story", but a universe. It's every bit as detailed, every bit as supple and responsive as ours. It's a moving Sistine Chapel ceiling.

I strongly suggest people start doing some reading on the psychological/philosophical underpinnings of Fate/stay night. To feel the full weight of a tour de force like Fate/stay night, you need a classical education. The best aestheticians have a sense of its true substance. It's not unlike Joyce's "Ulysses" in this way, another magnum opus in its own right.

Of the various themes present in Fate/stay night, Nasu's theme of ethics and value theory incorporated with various interactions between the characters appeal to logos, ethos and pathos, and this amalgamation of techniques once again prove his acuity and status as the smartest and wisest writer of our time. His profound messages regarding man's quest for heroism and the juxtaposition of epistemology and ontology with introspection as a seemingly guilt-ridden sociopathic protagonist delivers an amazing tale of the absurd and fichtean dialectic. The fact that he delves into the more psychological aspects of human nature, morality, structuralism, existentialism, meta cognition and phenomenology show that he truly understands philosophy, proving that this epic is the most intelligent tale of our decade. Nasu demonstrates his ken of the human condition as a hole through Fate/stay night, his magnum opus.

TLDR: LOTGH babies can never understand Fate/stay Night

Leave the advanced discussion of subtext and symbolism to those of us Fate scholars who have done the requisite study to understand the Eastern literature masterpiece that is Fate/stay night.

This is so misleading I puked after I was done reading.

Fate is even more overrated if anything.

@OT
I think it deserves the praise it gets, it's quite good and definitely one of the better space themed animes out there.

Oct 13, 2015 1:16 PM

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Oh dude yes, LOTGH and fate both have the worst god damn fanbases in the world id love to see them go at it

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Oct 13, 2015 1:26 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
Oh dude yes, LOTGH and fate both have the worst god damn fanbases in the world id love to see them go at it

Alright, I'll be the LoGH Fanboy for it then. I doubt those Fate freaks can stand against the True Elite.

Oct 13, 2015 1:29 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
Oh dude yes, LOTGH and fate both have the worst god damn fanbases in the world id love to see them go at it

I'll come at you with a battle axe in space if that's what you want.

I probably regret this post by now.

Oct 13, 2015 1:36 PM

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Sosunser said:
gr8 b8 m8

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Oct 13, 2015 1:43 PM

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*grabs pop-corn*

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Oct 13, 2015 1:46 PM

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Only in this shithole.

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Oct 13, 2015 1:54 PM

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JizzyHitler said:
Oh dude yes, LOTGH and fate both have the worst god damn fanbases in the world id love to see them go at it

Bring in the LOTGH fan boys here then

I must warn them that Im a Fate Scholar who studied The Visual Novel for almost a decade. I dedicated my life to our lord and saviour NASU.

Fate and Nasu are simply beyond this LOTGH fans. I wish I could help them, but I fear there's no fixing stupid.

That may sound like a hominem as populum, but so is telling a schizophrenic man he isn't really seeing ghosts. When the entire Fate community of learned literary connoisseurs clearly sees a work of genius, it's an act of insane vanity to attack it.

Oct 13, 2015 1:59 PM

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royaldocks said:
Bring in the LOTGH fan boys here then

I must warn them that Im a Fate Scholar who studied The Visual Novel for almost a decade. I dedicated my life to our lord and saviour NASU.

Fate and Nasu are simply beyond this LOTGH fans. I wish I could help them, but I fear there's no fixing stupid.

That may sound like a hominem as populum, but so is telling a schizophrenic man he isn't really seeing ghosts. When the entire Fate community of learned literary connoisseurs clearly sees a work of genius, it's an act of insane vanity to attack it.

Fate is based on a visual novel, and all visual novels are bad because they are just waifu generators for jobless virgin basement-dwelling otaku who want to date as many waifus as possible. Therefore Fate is shit.

LoGH on the other hand, is based on high literature, with great prose, poetic writing, and beautiful aetur works. It is purportedly heavily based on the French poem "Le Passion de Jean D'arc le troll", a highly esteemed work by various academies of intellectual writing styles, having been fashioned by an anonymous poetic onlooker who witnessed the atrocities of the French Revolution.

Taking inspiration from this, Tanaka went on to craft the greatest war epic of our era in the Geological time scale. LoGH is not like any Fate series (which honestly... does not even deserve the courtesy of being mentioned in the same post as LoGH), LoGH portrays a deeply human conflict with unprecendented intellectual portrayal.

Those who can be swayed by simple waifu archetypes and bombastic, mindless action are simply unworthy to even utter LoGH's name. It is truly unfortunate that LoGH has become known of on a site such as MAL, it is much better that it be only uttered within the sanctums of certain academies promoting thought and one in which only one of intellectual credence can be granted entry. Thankfully, if nothing else, the date of LoGH's airing and it's budget can withold the undesirables (those of inferior genetic history, of which Fate fans fall into) from bearing witness to the greatness of LoGH, an epic that seemingly transcends dimensions for those plebeians, who are unable to comprehend it's genius.

It is to my great lament that Production IG has decided to foolishly re-adapt the series in 2017. Undoubtedly hoards of mindless imbeciles will watch it along with the rest of the seasonal trash airing alongside it, and, unable to comprehend the salvation before their eyes, they will brush aside the deep complexities of intellectual pondering that LoGH has to offer.

I take it upon myself to dissuade any Fate fans from wasting their miniscule brain-power from attempting to watch the series, as you will simply only be satisfied with waifu wars in Fate subforums and shameless cash-in fanservice-laden spin-off series, which continue to cancer this dying medium.

Oct 13, 2015 2:05 PM

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What going on here lol

Oct 13, 2015 2:06 PM

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Literally fuck both of you guys. Am I the only person that really likes both? It's not because I'm stupid or an elitist either.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

Oct 13, 2015 2:07 PM

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AYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Refracting
that was a great poem

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Oct 13, 2015 2:08 PM

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black1blade said:
Literally fuck both of you guys. Am I the only person that really likes both? It's not because I'm stupid or an elitist either.

You are either stupid or of the True Elite. There is no middle ground.

Oct 13, 2015 2:09 PM

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TheRefractingOne said:

royaldocks said:
Bring in the LOTGH fan boys here then

[spoiler]I must warn them that Im a Fate Scholar who studied The Visual Novel for almost a decade. I dedicated my life to our lord and saviour NASU.

Fate and Nasu are simply beyond this LOTGH fans. I wish I could help them, but I fear there's no fixing stupid.

That may sound like a hominem as populum, but so is telling a schizophrenic man he isn't really seeing ghosts. When the entire Fate community of learned literary connoisseurs clearly sees a work of genius, it's an act of insane vanity to attack it.

Fate is based on a visual novel, and all visual novels are bad because they are just waifu generators for jobless virgin basement-dwelling otaku who want to date as many waifus as possible. Therefore Fate is shit.

LoGH on the other hand, is based on high literature, with great prose, poetic writing, and beautiful aetur works. It is purportedly heavily based on the French poem "Le Passion de Jean D'arc le troll", a highly esteemed work by various academies of intellectual writing styles, having been fashioned by an anonymous poetic onlooker who witnessed the atrocities of the French Revolution.

Taking inspiration from this, Tanaka went on to craft the greatest war epic of our era in the Geological time scale. LoGH is not like any Fate series (which honestly... does not even deserve the courtesy of being mentioned in the same post as LoGH), LoGH portrays a deeply human conflict with unprecendented intellectual portrayal.

Those who can be swayed by simple waifu archetypes and bombastic, mindless action are simply unworthy to even utter LoGH's name. It is truly unfortunate that LoGH has become known of on a site such as MAL, it is much better that it be only uttered within the sanctums of certain academies promoting thought and one in which only one of intellectual credence can be granted entry. Thankfully, if nothing else, the date of LoGH's airing and it's budget can withold the undesirables (those of inferior genetic history, of which Fate fans fall into) from bearing witness to the greatness of LoGH, an epic that seemingly transcends dimensions for those plebeians, who are unable to comprehend it's genius.

It is to my great lament that Production IG has decided to foolishly re-adapt the series in 2017. Undoubtedly hoards of mindless imbeciles will watch it along with the rest of the seasonal trash airing alongside it, and, unable to comprehend the salvation before their eyes, they will brush aside the deep complexities of intellectual pondering that LoGH has to offer.

I take it upon myself to dissuade any Fate fans from wasting their miniscule brain-power from attempting to watch the series, as you will simply only be satisfied with waifu wars in Fate subforums and shameless cash-in fanservice-laden spin-off series, which continue to cancer this dying medium.[/spoiler]

You certainly have a good argument my friend But Im afraid a baby like you could never understand Fate/stay Night

What is instantly evident to us (the mastery of Nasu's Fate) isn't something you grasp. It's an exercise on futility to educate on the whys and wherefores of literature. Tightly plotted, thematically consistent, emotionally affecting, and incredibly layered. There's so much meat on Fate/stay night it may be impossible to digest all of it.

After you finished reading the original LOTGH novel I suggest moving on to the advance medium such Visual Novels . If you want to see a true deconstruction of a hero and Villain like Shirou Emiya and Kotromine Kirei I suggest reading the Visual Novel.

Another great quote from another deep and well crafted character like Kirei

Oct 13, 2015 2:11 PM

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TheRefractingOne said:

black1blade said:
Literally fuck both of you guys. Am I the only person that really likes both? It's not because I'm stupid or an elitist either.

You are either stupid or of the True Elite. There is no middle ground.

Or I'm getting the best of both worlds and I am the true elitist for appreciating 2 sources literally genius.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

Oct 13, 2015 2:12 PM

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royaldocks said:
Bring in the LOTGH fan boys here then

I must warn them that Im a Fate Scholar who studied The Visual Novel for almost a decade. I dedicated my life to our lord and saviour NASU.

Fate and Nasu are simply beyond this LOTGH fans. I wish I could help them, but I fear there's no fixing stupid.

That may sound like a hominem as populum, but so is telling a schizophrenic man he isn't really seeing ghosts. When the entire Fate community of learned literary connoisseurs clearly sees a work of genius, it's an act of insane vanity to attack it.

Fate is based on a visual novel, and all visual novels are bad because they are just waifu generators for jobless virgin basement-dwelling otaku who want to date as many waifus as possible. Therefore Fate is shit.

LoGH on the other hand, is based on high literature, with great prose, poetic writing, and beautiful aetur works. It is purportedly heavily based on the French poem "Le Passion de Jean D'arc le troll", a highly esteemed work by various academies of intellectual writing styles, having been fashioned by an anonymous poetic onlooker who witnessed the atrocities of the French Revolution.

Taking inspiration from this, Tanaka went on to craft the greatest war epic of our era in the Geological time scale. LoGH is not like any Fate series (which honestly... does not even deserve the courtesy of being mentioned in the same post as LoGH), LoGH portrays a deeply human conflict with unprecendented intellectual portrayal.

Those who can be swayed by simple waifu archetypes and bombastic, mindless action are simply unworthy to even utter LoGH's name. It is truly unfortunate that LoGH has become known of on a site such as MAL, it is much better that it be only uttered within the sanctums of certain academies promoting thought and one in which only one of intellectual credence can be granted entry. Thankfully, if nothing else, the date of LoGH's airing and it's budget can withold the undesirables (those of inferior genetic history, of which Fate fans fall into) from bearing witness to the greatness of LoGH, an epic that seemingly transcends dimensions for those plebeians, who are unable to comprehend it's genius.

It is to my great lament that Production IG has decided to foolishly re-adapt the series in 2017. Undoubtedly hoards of mindless imbeciles will watch it along with the rest of the seasonal trash airing alongside it, and, unable to comprehend the salvation before their eyes, they will brush aside the deep complexities of intellectual pondering that LoGH has to offer.

I take it upon myself to dissuade any Fate fans from wasting their miniscule brain-power from attempting to watch the series, as you will simply only be satisfied with waifu wars in Fate subforums and shameless cash-in fanservice-laden spin-off series, which continue to cancer this dying medium.

Remove the first paragraph and it becomes quite a believable pasta.
"all VN are nakige" is too easy to spot and pretty overused already.
Besides of that, your avatar/sign plus the pasta makes a pretty good trigger. Proceed to post it every once in a while on the Fate sub-forum and you'll get quite the laughs from rustled funs.

http://fakemorisummer.wordpress.com/

Oct 13, 2015 2:13 PM

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Yes.

Overrated because it has people who never watched it latching it onto their favorites and rating it a 10/10 just to fit in.

Oct 13, 2015 2:13 PM

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Who cares? Anime is shit anyway.

"Chinese cartoons was a mistake"

Hayao Miyazaki

Oct 13, 2015 2:17 PM

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We all know Ping Pong is the best elitist animu ever.

underneath the stars

Oct 13, 2015 2:18 PM

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galimx said:
LOGH > Fate

I know what I am talking about. End of thread.

Did you even watch LOGH?

Out.

Oct 13, 2015 2:18 PM

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i would love if anyone could recomend a better anime than logh

Oct 13, 2015 2:23 PM

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gabrielrroiz said:
i would love if anyone could recomend a better anime than logh

Mars of destruction

Oct 13, 2015 2:25 PM

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black1blade said:

TheRefractingOne said:

You are either stupid or of the True Elite. There is no middle ground.

Or I'm getting the best of both worlds and I am the true elitist for appreciating 2 sources literally genius.

You can appreciate both and love both just like me but Fate is Bible,Quran tier source material.

Oct 13, 2015 2:29 PM

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>Legend of the Gay-lactic Heroes
>Fate/Gay Shite
>Better than anything.

galimx said:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/rcOtk9e.jpg[ /img]

"muh leetus shows"

Oct 13, 2015 2:39 PM

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Oct 13, 2015 2:41 PM

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Real elitists prioritize the shoujos from the 70's. Please.

Oct 13, 2015 2:46 PM

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Z4k said:

gabrielrroiz said:
i would love if anyone could recomend a better anime than logh

Mars of destruction

lol www.niceme.me

Twitter and it's consequences had been a disaster for the human race

Oct 13, 2015 2:50 PM

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Pretty much show about bunch of guys sipping tea and exchanging *rape me now* looks between each other in pause from all political matters ofc.

Many call it no.1 meme anime too.

Oct 13, 2015 3:04 PM

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galimx said:

9/12
Ping Pong didn't work for me. Somehow Mushishi also doesn't appeal.
+/- Honey & Clover
+1 for Haibane
Is that Remi on bot 2nd from left? Holy shit, if yes 10/13

http://fakemorisummer.wordpress.com/

Oct 13, 2015 3:11 PM

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galimx said:

xbobx said:

9/12
Ping Pong didn't work for me. Somehow Mushishi also doesn't appeal.
+/- Honey & Clover
+1 for Haibane
Is that Remi on bot 2nd from left? Holy shit, if yes 10/13

Yes, its Remi from Ie Naki Ko.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/2828/Ie_Naki_Ko

Hm, I imagined. It's quite the iconic cover.
Was mistaking it for 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother for a moment, though.
Rare to see someone who've watched it here. Kudos!

http://fakemorisummer.wordpress.com/

Oct 13, 2015 3:17 PM

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i could watch 10 harem instead of 100 eps of dust

Oct 13, 2015 3:21 PM

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galimx said:

xbobx said:

Hm, I imagined. It's quite the iconic cover.
Was mistaking it for 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother for a moment, though.
Rare to see someone who've watched it here. Kudos!

Yeah, I still need to watch more World Masterpiece Theater (http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=1342) shows. Like Akage no Anne etc,... I heard they are great :)

Ie Naki Ko isn't WMT though (at least not the old one by Dezaki). But I agree.

I probably regret this post by now.

Oct 13, 2015 3:30 PM

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silversaint said:
i could watch 10 harem instead of 100 eps of dust

I see what you did there.

Oct 13, 2015 3:31 PM

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I don't think it's overrated. To be honest I like it a lot. And I am not such a fan of such anime series about politics and such. But what made me like the anime so much was the two MC's. They are extremely smart and respect each other. And I don't know why people say the animation is bad, it is really good, considering it's from the 80's beginning of the 90's. You can't expect Gundam animation quality but who knows, we will see in 2017 :).

Oct 13, 2015 3:47 PM

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Real Talk, muv luv alternative is better than LOGH and Fate. Suck my dik.

Read my good friend's WEBNOVEL

Oct 13, 2015 3:51 PM

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TheRefractingOne said:

all visual novels are bad because they are just waifu generators for jobless virgin basement-dwelling otaku who want to date as many waifus as possible. Therefore Fate is shit.

Died.

Oct 13, 2015 3:53 PM

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Of course this thread topic alone is bait for lots of troll responses haha

Well I'm at episode 40 I'm watching LoGH right now. I think it's really enjoyable so far, but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece by any means. Think I have it 8/10.

I'm really enjoying the characters so far. The plot is interesting, but its nothing groundbreaking or amazing in my opinion. Executed well though.

Oct 13, 2015 4:20 PM

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If you see someone with LOGH in their favs you can be sure that 99% of them are huge pretentious douchebags that think their taste is better than everything. That probably get off to some book by a German author, and listens to classical music and shit. Pretends they're a 60 yr old woman in a fur coat drinking wine on top of a piano. They're the type of people who think they're cool shit but are just pretentious weebs.

Oct 13, 2015 4:21 PM

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galimx said:

xbobx said:

Hm, I imagined. It's quite the iconic cover.
Was mistaking it for 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother for a moment, though.
Rare to see someone who've watched it here. Kudos!

Yeah, I still need to watch more World Masterpiece Theater (http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=1342) shows. Like Akage no Anne etc,... I heard they are great :)

That's the real elitism I was speaking about, LOGH is for plebs

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