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| Not too shabby Akeshi. I think sometimes when he tries, he can do quite a bit of job done. So yeah, the episode was alright with the case despite the odd pacing. One thing I find it interesting about Kagami and his involvement.. Shit went down after that D:  |
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| "MUH IMOUTO" the episode. No Kobayashi butt, 0/10 Ending was nice though. Fatass finally got what he deserved. |
| A somewhat decent episode. Everything was predictable but still we got to learn a bit more about Kagami's past. Dang, that ending... the fat dude had it coming for him. |
| Honestly, who didn't see Kagami's imouto meeting a terrible fate from miles away? I remember stating it on episode 2's discussion. Imouto characters are bound to die in this types of series. Very predictable and a cheap attempt at tugging people's "feels" string, which I doubt worked for many. Not really satisfied with how that fat MF was done in at the end. Would've preferred a much gruesome death for him. |
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| Best episode yet. It really surprised me, damn. Kagami's sister was really cute, really liked her, even if we only get to see her some minutes.... sad. Even if he got arrested, I still think Kagami did what had to be done. Really liked him. |
| F'd up shit T^T I was so scared for imouto-chan (such a sweet imouto to add) during this ep and making her cute didn't help. I just love those types of characters and then just to be killed like that!!! F***! When Kagami was called being told that Sunaga is after his sister I was "NOOOOOOO" And I was in so much rage when we saw her hanging in her dress!! Predictable but I friggin hate when they do that. Makes me cringe ;_; F*** the Law!! 20 faces and Kagami FTW!!!! I felt so satisfied seeing that fat bastard Watanube getting stabbed the hell out of!!! The law sucks ass for releasing all those mentally sick criminals |
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| Very emotional and great episode. We found out Kagami's motivation and what happened to his sister, as well as getting some very nice commentary about justice system in japan, especially the mental illness treatment procedures that were altered in 2005 reform(look up on the internet, what is covered in this episode is very much real problem, highlighting the problems of mental rehabilitation facilities in japan and japanese justice system overly reliant on confessions above all ). It gives us nice psychological profile to Kagami and showcases how he was inspired to take up 20 Faces Mask and how it connects to Akechi as well as establishing the whole 20 Faces being multiple people idea(as opposite of him impersonating multiple people in original novels) Overall quite a beautiful study of ineptness of justice and court system as well as what drives people towards vigilantism. 5/5 |
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| I felt so bad for Kagami regarding his sister but his way of slowly torturing the criminal Sugano at the end made me happy for some odd reason. Justice given when it should be. |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| Best episode so far! Glad that sick fat bastard got what he deserved in the end. |
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| Dissapointing episode mainly bc the end was so damn unsatifying and the rest was predictable as hell! Like the OP mentioned it feels like they introduce characters just to serve the purpose of being a victim! And whats with the law in japan or wherever they are?? They cant keep a fatass locked in? all too convenient... His death scene was a joke aswell. I just expected more than stabbing him in some dark alley. 2/5 |
| Now that was more like it. The way Kagami progressed to the point where he became Twenty Faces was really obvious, but the way that they showed it happening was excellent. Would have been even better if it wasn't so ridiculously obvious that his sister was going to die. Seriously, as soon as she appeared I just knew that she'd die. Also, that fat fuck finally got what he deserved. Still would have preferred him being crushed in concrete like Kagami was going to at the end of the previous episode. |
| It was pretty obvious why he did it and all, but the episode was EASILY the best one so far. It was about time that a really good episode happen in this. |
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| That sick fat pedo finally got what he deserved! |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Not going too deep into how ridiculously incompetent the judgmental system was because they have already thrown out every bit of logic behind it and go for cheap and lazy writing there, even though in reality these kind of things happen all the time but not without reason, they clearly deliberately made it flawed so that it can be used as a plot device, they made it clear in episode 4 with Kobayashi taking out his phone and watched news on it in the most awkward and blunt way possible. Or maybe it's just a minor build up for these two episodes? Or will it has any more bearing later on? It's stupid nonetheless, but not like they had much consideration for their targeted audience in the first place, just look at how contrived and manipulative this episode is written, the sister bit is just as generic as possible, there's no wit to the dialog, you think Kagami is those kind of people that can easily get pushed over the edge and has some problems himself, and this show did have weird people walking everywhere ( not sure half of them are intentional though), maybe that's why he can commit those horrible acts? But you don't see or feel that from the script or presentation, so it's just a normal person having a perfectly healthy mind just suddenly snapped and wanting to start a killing spree. If they want to save Kagami just tell the prosecutor he is a siscon, in this universe it seems like you can just drop any charges even if you have the slightest mental problems, just fake one up. |
raveninthemuddleJul 30, 2015 12:37 PM
| We get backstory about what led Kagami to assume the role of 20 Faces. Decent episode, I'm glad that fat piece of crap was killed at the end but he should have been slowly tortured instead. Would have been more satisfying |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
raveninthemuddle said: Not going too deep into how ridiculously incompetent the judgmental system was because they have already thrown out every bit of logic behind it and go for cheap and lazy writing there, even though in reality these kind of things happen all the time but not without reason, they clearly deliberately made it flawed so that it can be used as a plot device, they made it clear in episode 4 with Kobayashi taking out his phone and watched news on it in the most awkward and blunt way possible. Or maybe it's just a minor build up for these two episodes? Or will it has any more bearing later on? It's stupid nonetheless, but not like they had much consideration for their targeted audience in the first place, just look at how contrived and manipulative this episode is written, the sister bit is just as generic as possible, there's no wit to the dialog, you think Kagami is those kind of people that can easily get pushed over the edge and has some problems himself, and this show did have weird people walking everywhere ( not sure half of them are intentional though), maybe that's why he can commit those horrible acts? But you don't see or feel that from the script or presentation, so it's just a normal person having a perfectly healthy mind just suddenly snapped and wanting to start a killing spree. If they want to save Kagami just tell the prosecutor he is a siscon, in this universe it seems like you can just drop any charges even if you have the slightest mental problems, just fake one up. Please go live in japan for at least a year and then try to tell this is "forced" or "fake". It is exactly like that due to incompetent implementation of mental rehabilitation reforms the government agreed on in 2005. Criminals with mental health issues get sent to rehabilitation centers but due to poor implementation exit without any progress. Adding to that Japanese legal system is reliant on conviction by confession to the point of violently trying to force confessions, so yes, in case of mental disability or insanity the government would usually rather commit the perpetrator to rehabilitation center than go to court with the case. |
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| Best episode so far. The episode's ending was satisfying. I can understand Kagami. The mystery tag works here a bit differently,it seems that they focus it on smaller things in an episode,like in here the mystery part was why he did what he did. From an anime only perspective this series is not bad at all imo. |
| Best episode yet by far, the laws they have in this are beyond ridiculous |
MadRest said: Wait, so when exactly was his sister killed? She was alive 2 episodes ago. I thought the flashback was during the time before the start of the series, but it looks like she died in between the 3rd and 4th episodes. that's the power of PLOT-HOLES! i mean, the episode wasn't bad and i ejoyed the series, but this was a tad extreme... |
MadRest said: Wait, so when exactly was his sister killed? She was alive 2 episodes ago. I thought the flashback was during the time before the start of the series, but it looks like she died in between the 3rd and 4th episodes. No she was not alive back then. I thought it was pretty clear that the phone calls were fake. if there was nothing wrong with them Akechi would not take note of them every time. |
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| Damn. I got pissed when I saw Kagami's sister hanging. She didn't deserve that end. Awesome episode! |
| Man that was brutal and sad. That sicko got what he deserved at least. |
Takuan_Soho said: CookingPriest said: No she was not alive back then. I thought it was pretty clear that the phone calls were fake. if there was nothing wrong with them Akechi would not take note of them every time. Nope, they weren't fake. He interviewed Lard ass after he had been arrested for killing and pulverizing five girls, so the sister was still alive up until that point (end of episode 3). But I can see how this could not be clear, the writing is inconsistent, I had thought it a feature, but now it is clear it is just bad writing. And your above explanation is crap. Japan is not in the habit of releasing serial killers. Which is why their murder rate is so extremely low. The interview is in PREVIOUS case. Kagami kimself states that the guy was arrested before. He phone calls in previous ep too even though the murders have been going on for a while already. That's why Akechi used him as a bait this time. |
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| This episode just exposes the truth of corruption of modern justice system in today's secular civilizations. So realistic. Great episode. 5/5 |
| Its messed up what happen to the sister |
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| Best episode. Really showed how retarded the judgement system works nowadays (it does happen way often like in this case). Kagami just couldn't deal with it and the fat guy just put the final nail in the coffin by brutally murdering his sister. That was great and i felt for Kagami. |
| Best episode of the show. However I am afraid it will only go down from now on. It does not matter how predictable it was but how it was delivered just topped it all. Having lived in Japan, I am quite suspicious of the low murder rate. I know the country is very safe, many women can go out late in the evening without problems compared to other developed countries. Murders are difficult to prevent because they are very often unpredictable so I would say the low rate of murder cases recorded might have something to do with how some murders were never discovered and therefore recorded. |
CookingPriest said: Please go live in japan for at least a year and then try to tell this is "forced" or "fake". It is exactly like that due to incompetent implementation of mental rehabilitation reforms the government agreed on in 2005. Criminals with mental health issues get sent to rehabilitation centers but due to poor implementation exit without any progress. Adding to that Japanese legal system is reliant on conviction by confession to the point of violently trying to force confessions, so yes, in case of mental disability or insanity the government would usually rather commit the perpetrator to rehabilitation center than go to court with the case. So it totally excuses the way it's poorly implemented into the story? I'm not saying I'm more knowledgeable than you on Japanese legal system but I won't say I'm totally ignorant to some of the facts you have stated, but when the fat ass got released three times in a row it's hard to take the plot or whatever it correlated to reality seriously. |
| Wow. Okay. So the show can be good when it wants to be. This is as tightly paced as a one episode background story is going to be. The weirdness is kept to a minimum but stands out that much more for it. Aaand Kagami in a single episode gained more character than everyone else combined throughout four episodes, which is kinda unfortunate. Why can't Ranpo Kitan be at least this good most of the time? See folks, this is what happens when you can give a damn about the characters. Unlike that POS from last week. |
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| I never empathize with cute lovable characters in shows like these because their only purpose is literally to die in horribly twisted fashions. This episode doesn't betray the expectation I had the moment I saw her on screen for the first time, and honestly it disappoints me a little. I feel like this show is relying a little too heavily on the whole "make the audience feel bad by introducing and killing a cute little girl" card. Honestly I think it would have been more meaningful if she'd been left alive but disfigured or something. Would have surprised me a lot more that way. |
sirflimflamJul 30, 2015 1:51 PM
| Good episode. Enjoyed it far more than the previous episodes. So I guess more Twenty Faces going to appear next episode? |
| This criminal justice system is bullshit, I get that. The way this script goes about expressing that though takes suspension of disbelief and launches it into the stratosphere with it's ubelievably bad handling of people with supposed mental health issues. The problem here is that next episode our main characters will probably go after another mad man who'll get tried under the same system that let some dude who kidnapped a bunch of children as sex slaves walk free. Who cares. As for the rest of the episode, I've got noting but shrugs. Not a fan of discount feels. |
gedataAug 4, 2015 7:20 PM
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| I hated this episode cause everything is so true and real :'( This is me at the end of the ep.  |
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ichii_1 said: I feel ya man, I feel ya. This episode was great, and I mean that in a sad and horrified way.I hated this episode cause everything is so true and real :'( This is me at the end of the ep. |
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| Enjoyed this episode muuuch more than the previous episodes. |
| Imouto's death was obvious and inevitable, which made for a very painful and gut wrenching watch. |
ichii_1 said: I hated this episode cause everything is so true and real :'( This is me at the end of the ep. +1 T^T |
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| So somebody high in the Japanese government wants a drastic change in the laws and seeks for support from the otaku crowd. Therefore such a badly directed series pops up in the noitaminA block. And of course they couldn't miss a chance to remind how overtiming at work may destroy your family. Meh... What's ironic is that both noitaminA shows this season have trap characters. Unlike Kishi, however, Nakamura Kenji sure does them so much better. Utsutsuu shimasu. |
Takuan_Soho said: CookingPriest said: The interview is in PREVIOUS case. Nope, in the interview the criminal said that he would be released again "just like the last time", so it was after the murders. Otherwise, Kagami should have been watching Lardy because they knew he was a serial predator. So either way bad writing. You not understanding it =/ bad writing. But kinda funny how you suddenly changed your tune. |
| The OST was my fav thing about the episode, well as for Kagami's motive it was obvious, but how tragic for him to lose his way. |
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