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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Repeat after me, kids, "nice guys finish last." :P You've gotta admire the resolve of Mirai-san, and all of the White Base's crew. They've gone from n00bs to pretty hardcore warriors over the course of the series. |
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| His meeting with his dad was kinda underwhelming... |
| Bright is even more jealous, LOL~ |
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| So Amuro really just threw that module for gundam out like that? That means he have some problems with self-control. I understand his fury, but still why to throw such useful thing? Beatnik said: Yes, because starting a tale with a teenage character already perfect and with no room left for any development is the way to go. Yep! See, Beatnik? The further show goes, the more we see faults of that 'alredy perfect teenage with no room left for any development'. |
| Dammit Bright if ye don't hurry up she'll be taken... Suck it up and ask her already!! |
x4m said: So Amuro really just threw that module for gundam out like that? That means he have some problems with self-control. I understand his fury, but still why to throw such useful thing? Beatnik said: Yes, because starting a tale with a teenage character already perfect and with no room left for any development is the way to go. Yep! See, Beatnik? The further show goes, the more we see faults of that 'alredy perfect teenage with no room left for any development'. I think it's implied that the module was nothing but garbage. His dad has gone a little....crazy. |
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Fumofu said: So Amuro really just threw that module for gundam out like that? That means he have some problems with self-control. I understand his fury, but still why to throw such useful thing? He threw it away because it's trash. Amuro stated that clearly:  As to why his father could make such mistake was again, clearly stated:  People, why you come here to discuss when you have clearly not payed attention to the episode? Alas86 said: His meeting with his dad was kinda underwhelming... Why people complain when Amuro becomes depressed and call him names like "emo", "wimp", "wussy", and "spineless" and yet when he finally matures and recovers fast like in this case, people also complain? If this event had happened 20 episodes ago, it would had taken Amuro like 10 episodes more to recover considering how immature he was, but now not only he recovered fast, but it did not affect his combat ability in the slightest. That just shows how much he has developed as a character. |
Fumofu said: So Amuro really just threw that module for gundam out like that? That means he have some problems with self-control. I understand his fury, but still why to throw such useful thing? Beatnik said: Yes, because starting a tale with a teenage character already perfect and with no room left for any development is the way to go. Yep! See, Beatnik? The further show goes, the more we see faults of that 'alredy perfect teenage with no room left for any development'. What I got out of this comment is that you didn't pay any fucking attention at all to what was going on. It was clear that the item he gave Amuro was junk. Like Sabinlerose pointed out (hell even Amuro did) his father was, well, a bit off his rocker at this point. NFH said: Alas86 said: His meeting with his dad was kinda underwhelming... Why people complain when Amuro becomes depressed and call him names like "emo", "wimp", "wussy", and "spineless" and yet when he finally matures and recovers fast like in this case, people also complain? If this event had happened 20 episodes ago, it would had taken Amuro like 10 episodes more to recover considering how immature he was, but now not only he recovered fast, but it did not affect his combat ability in the slightest. That just shows how much he has developed as a character. It's not that he recovered fast or anything it's that there just wasn't much to the scene between him and his father, it was over in like a couple of minutes and I think that hurt the depth of the scene. I guess I would say that it lacked context and dramatic punch. Not to mention that his father suddenly being alive when the last we saw him was when he was sucked out of a colony in a vacuum. It just seemed hokey to me. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| How the hell did his dad survive and end up on Side 6 of all places? It's on the other side of the planet lol |
| I still don't understand what happened to Amuros dad, but I guess he went crazy or something. insan3soldiern said: Yeah, that's how I felt. I was really hoping to see more of it because honestly the whole time of the show I've been wonder if he was alive or not, and I think Amuro has brought up his whereabouts a few times, but I guess that is all we get.It's not that he recovered fast or anything it's that there just wasn't much to the scene between him and his father, it was over in like a couple of minutes and I think that hurt the depth of the scene. I guess I would say that it lacked context and dramatic punch. Not to mention that his father suddenly being alive when the last we saw him was when he was sucked out of a colony in a vacuum. It just seemed hokey to me. GodotCoffee said: Chances are this was probably a filler episode or something.How the hell did his dad survive and end up on Side 6 of all places? It's on the other side of the planet lol |
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mudskipper said: DAD OF THE YEAR ALSO I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT MIRAI WANTS SHE WANTS TO STAY ON THE WHITE BASE, OBVIOUSLY No seriously though, it's obvious that no matter what that Cameron guy has to offer, he can never replace the bond Mirai formed with her crew members. The White Base needs her as much as she needs the White Base. Plus, it's hinted at she's not into guys who run away from conflicts. Btw nice ep, even though as some of you said it Amuro and his Dad's meeting was pretty lacking in the drama department. However, unlike the Mom episode, I felt genuinely bad for Amuro this time. Also nice to see how much he's grown as a character, recovering super fast an' shit! And Char still being awesome, even when he doesn't do shit: I'm loving this show ! |
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| Amuro's dad is the shit, doesn't care about his family at all. In the end, I was expecting Mirai's pussy-future-man to shout in typical Gundam way, dramatically "MIRAIII!!!!" but he didn't so I was a little sad inside. I mean, this show can't get more cheesy from this so why not? |
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| It's sad what happened to Amuro's dad. Good thing it didn't affect Amuro in the battle. He's become quite powerful, it's amazing. I never thought I'd see the RX-78 doing those amazing moves and killing one enemy MS after another like that. Also, Lalah next episode. |
| Wow lots of things happened! And yay i predicted that this is the Side that Mirai's supposed arrange husband lives. Amuro has been getting good, not only he destroyed that prototype weapon, but he also destroyed 9 Doms in merely 3 minutes!! Godly stuff!!! Lol Bright should definitely hurry up and make some moves on Mirai!! Wow Amuro's father was actually alive?!?! In the first episode he was sucked away by the atmosphere, at least he was in space suit back then. I'm not surprise on how Amuro reacted. After for so long you haven't seen Amuro and you act like you just saw him the other day? Not even a care for his wife? I wonder if Amuro still took the upgraded part his father gave?? Man Amuro always get the cold treatment when it comes to his parents. I'm starting to like Slegger now! Don't die now!!! Lol that Cameron is such a coward. I'm glad Mirai turned him down, there are better guys who are willing to risk everything for you. The moment he said his father will do everything for you, i knew Mirai would instantly turn him down. Bright should have "Bright Slapped" him!! Good stuff!! Damn only 10 episodes left!!! Can't wait to finish this up and fire some Zeta goodness!!!! |
| I didn't really care for the interaction with Amuro's dad. We didn't even know he was still alive. Also, I don't think we had enough context on what he gave Amuro. Was it really junk, or was Amuro mistaken? I'm taking the "oxygen deprivation" comment to mean his dad's brain was already dying from the lack of oxygen when he was saved, but again... the scene was so short, it just muddied the waters since he seemed okay otherwise. I think it's pretty clear why Mirai doesn't want to be with Cameron. He runs away from conflict and it's implied that he relies on his father too much. At that, he doesn't have anything to offer Mirai; there's no conviction. That's why she asked him what he would be willing to do for her if she was willing to leave the White Base: She was looking for something, anything actual (i.e. more than just words) that would show her he loved her. Leaving the White Base is a big deal for her, which he didn't understand. When he responded with "my father-", it was over. I liked that that smug officer got his rear handed to him for trying to brute force the White Base. On another note, Amuro's pretty much an ace now. Taking out nine Doms by himself in under three minutes is no small feat, Gundam or no Gundam. Overall it was a pretty good episode. |
| What was up with the music at the end. I honestly started laughing because it made the last scene just silly. |
| Holy crap his dad's a douche. |
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| From a purely action profile, it is a bit stingy with emotions, but also in terms of the story, there is not much, just a small step in the knowledge of Mirai and the relationship that binds Amuro to his father. But also it begins to take hold, albeit slowly, something inside Amuro, a very special quality. The episode could be handled better in certain situations, but it is not to be so disappointed. |
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| Quite an interesting episode and to be honest I did not expect to see his dad there! He sure didn't act like a dad especially not after that long not seeing him! That said I do wonder what happens next. |
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| Honestly one of my least favorite episodes, like almost nothing of interest happened. |
| This episode showed how far White Base and its crew have progressed since the beginning of this anime. They are a serious and now professional force. I can understand why Mirai's relationship might not work, but she should have at least told Cameron what her problem with him were. Though not all the kills were shown, Amuro was keeping a solid count of how many Doms he destroyed this episode. I'll count it as the animators trying to save themselves some work Amuro Ray Kill Count: 9 Dom kills this episode 55 kills total |
| Amuros dad almost appeared like a psycho. And lol,that commander lecturing Char got his ass kicked. |
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| Lmfao, that was the fakest looking punch I've ever seen. It didn't even look like Slegger hit him. |
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| Hold on, everybody was firing like storm troopers in the last couple of episodes, so how is everyone getting direct hits now? |
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| On the beautiful but artificial side 6 where conflict strikes, the most notable aspect of the episode was the rich character interactions. Mirai isn't new to development, she was forced to take control as the captain and had a little arc of her own. Yet here, she had an Amuro or Kai moment. One where the character is offered an out, yet rejects it, showing their attachment to the crew and detachment from their old life. It wasn't black and white, but White Base won. They're also seemed to be a clear contrast between the war fleeing Cameron and the man of action Bright. But speaking of the Amuro moment, he had another one by meeting his dad. There seems to be a sad reality, his father was as callous as his mother but in regards to the war effort rather than anti-war efforts. So callous that, for a moment, I thought he was a doppelganger spy or something. Instead, assuming oxygen deprivation did get to him, that may have been directly caused by Amuro. And in effect, this shows his detachment from his mother and his father, and the importance of White Base to him again. For me however, I would say Sleggar is the MVP of this episode. He had a hilarious scene where he first took the glasses off of Cameron before decking him in the face. Although White Base isn't squeamish about punching others, I don't know if the others would act as fast as Sleggar did. He's an enforcer for sure! Further, embedded in his action was some level of kindness or honor, he wasn't about to break this dude's glasses! Afterwards, I think he even referred to Mirai as a mother to the crew. Following this, his teasing of Amuro helped cement him as a big brother figure. He may be a loose cannon, he may be arrogant, but ultimately it does feel like his heart is in the right place. |
| No idea of how Amuro's dad survived and less how he got there....looks like he went crazy after being sucked out into the vacuum. That piece of junk gives me more reasons to believe that. He's alive but damaged! I laughed when Bright was jealous hahahaha. Cameron is not abusive towards Mirai but cowardly and indecisive. I'm happy that she rejected him. Probably the lack of fluidity in the animation made Slegger's punch to Cameron feel fake and weak. Beisdes that, Amuro and White Base were really cool in the battle. |
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| I really liked the city scenes. It really made it look fun and inviting with the bright lights and sparkling colors. The scenes with Amuro's dad were cold in comparison. Unfortunately, the dad scenes were not as well done as they should have been. I knew a bit more about it, having seen the movie version before, but my girlfriend was confused on if the part was actually junk or if Amuro was just being arrogant. |
Rui_Rei said: Some thing I have noticed on many forum discussion threads on MAL which was addressed by a few posters before me is: People really do not pay any fucking attention. This includes the '1st Post' people who do not care if they are watching an anime without subs or dubs (when they can not speak or read Japanese). Do you remember episode 1. Do you remember when the colony they were on was attacked by the Zeon and Air leaked out into space. Well in real life if you do not have enough Oxygen The cells in your body will start to die. Cells in your arm or leg or skin, liver, lungs, heart... over time your body will make new cells. When a Brain cell is dead. It's dead for good. The information which was in it is Gone for good. This is why you can not go too long without enough oxygen. Your brain cells will die and the knowledge in them will be gone forever. That's what happened to his dad. His dad is not a douche. His dad is a victim of the war. Unfortunately in real life if you have brain damage you can forget people you love and things which are important to you (dementia). A good protection against dementia is to try to have as much red purple blue and black fruit and vegetables as you can and to cut down on processed food and food with a lot of chemical ingredients and to try not to do too many things which cause your brain to shake inside your head. This anime is really good because it deals with a lot of real life things. Amuro has finally grown up. The improvement in his fighting is all down to resolve. If you've ever played sport or done some thing for which you really achieved some thing you know when every part of you is 100% focused on some thing and your heart is in it you can do some very special things. Or in other words his limitations were off. Yes Gundam is great it's AI but Amuro has been constantly holding back that AI with his Mirai and Sayla style thinking instead of doing. (If some one is about to overtake you in a race and 100% of your brain is focused on: Oh no oh no oh no, I'm going to be overtaken, oh no what do I do, etc... You're going to get overtaken.. but if your mind is blank and / or you just have one thought: Faster, Faster, Faster, Faster... you've got a chance) This is the change that happened with Amuro fighting in Gundam this episode. He had absolutely 0% stray thoughts and he wasn't even thinking (The Suits AI does that). In the first ep he picks up the manual his father left on the ground and the mobile suit his father made and left on the ground. This ep he throws the (false) upgrade from his father down to the ground. This helped symbolize and cummunicate he's no kid now (and he can't be a kid) tagging along without a thought and without a care to every thing his father does. And he's the man of the house now. It was made clear to him in this ep: If there's any one who has any chance of keeping that family alive and bringing it together it is him and his mother. His father is now the child. And thus we got: Man and Machine in perfect Sync. Well said about Amuro growing up. |
| Interesting episode, lots of stuff going on. The only pointless part was at the very beginning, where they randomly fought a new type of Mobile Armor and didn't even finish it off. I guess it'll return, otherwise it would be straight up random. But it still felt out of place. The scene with Amuro's father hit me quite hard. He clearly isn't himself anymore and went crazy. Can't imagine how that must feel for Amuro. This kind of stuff always hits me harder than an actual death. The Cameron stuff I didn't really care much about. I don't think they went deep enough into it. No idea why Cameron is made to look like a bitch when all he wants is to avoid conflict and be save with his fiancé. Is that enough to be a coward? Not everyone's suited to be a soldier. I lol'd at Bright being jealous of him though. I guess we got our true pairing here. Wonder if that influenced Mirai's decision to leave him. Anyway, Amuro one again acted like a killing machine. Destroying 9 mobile suits in 3 minutes, insane. Either his aim improved a lot or these enemies just can't dodge, lol. |
| Loved the moments with Cameron and Mirai and RIP Cameron got rejected so hard |
| Poor Amuro, first his mother blowing him off then his father, the only people he has are those on White Base, I feel terrible for him. The music and sound effects during battle are fantastic in this episode. The worst response when someone confesses their love? "Thank you." Poor Cameron, but to be fair he did run while Mirai is willing to fight. |
| bright is clearly jelous of mirai. i feel bad for amuro, his father clearly has suffered brain damage for the lack of air in the first episodes, in the end they are all victims of war |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| it's a great upset what happened to amuro's dad. i had been looking forward to the dad's return, but knowing that it is like this, what a shame for amuro. |
| amuro can't catch a break his father's so cold, it's sad to see. Him and his gundam have really leveled up though 12 dick doms in three minutes only that is a great numbers advantage but this gundam is the real deal |
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