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Nov 23, 2014 4:15 PM

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That was a pretty hot kissing scene, especially with Yuuji accidentally grabbing her boob and the "Papa no ecchi!" That was so adorable I might have to go watch Oni Chichi, lol.

"Gotta shove stuff in her pipes or she'll get clogged", lol ... while Amane is totally my favorite girl, Makina's really making me enjoy her. She looks great in buruma, too. Anyone else notice the suggestive nature of her offering Yuuji her 'apples' when her 'tree' gets bigger?

"I'll shove a rod up your hole and make you cry!" Ah, Makina. Gotta love a loli with a mouth ;)

Then at the end, we find out that poor Makina has a hit out on her. There's no way Yuuji's going to do it, so I imagine we're going to see him make use of his assassin skills in order to protect his new 'daughter'.
Nov 23, 2014 4:39 PM

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This is better paced than expected. It's inevitable that they'll modify some scenes here and there but overall it was neatly done. I'll still lower my expectations for the next episode since it's pretty much a given that 8-bit will alter everyone's route.
Nov 23, 2014 5:12 PM
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danieltortoisee said:
I get that this is supposed to be the Makina route, but to me it felt like the focus of the episode was on Yuuji far more than her. At least it's now confirmed that he is an assassin. But who wants him to assassinate Makina? And why do they want her dead?

Should be interesting to see what the next episode brings to the table.


I don't think they want him to assassinate her. I think JB is just showing Yuuji that there's a hit put out on her, and now yuuji can protect her.

Kind of reminds me of how that one girl decided to protect the other girl from all the other evil girls in Akuma no Riddle..
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Nov 23, 2014 5:24 PM

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linktriforce007 said:
Kind of reminds me of how that one girl decided to protect the other girl from all the other evil girls in Akuma no Riddle..

I know teh anime version of Grisaia is mostly stupid thanks to 8bit doin' mostly a bad hellish rushed original job, but i still never thought i would read dat comparison again after teh stupid foreshadowin' of episode 1 lol
Nov 23, 2014 5:24 PM

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This was a solid episode and I agree with others in that the pacing was significantly improved for this arc. And that kiss... I didn't know Makina had it in her (although I should have expected it with that dirty mouth she has). And those last 5 minutes or so...



It looks like there are gonna be some fireworks in the next episode.
Nov 23, 2014 5:57 PM
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Makina is surprisingly ecchi o.O those kisses and talking about cleaning Chizuru's hole with a Yuuji's pipe lmao.

This episode was very surprising. We learned a little bit about Yuuji and Makina's past has been the most interesting so far. Hopefully it stays redeemable.
Nov 23, 2014 6:08 PM

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That kiss o_O... it was really intense and passionate for some reason.

The episode was really nice, i've heard that you get to know about Yuuji's past during Makina's route. I actually expected Makina's sister to die, but looks like she's alive. And that plot-twist at the end was very unexpected. I really hope he isn't supposed to kill her, the feels would just be too much if he does end up doing it.

5/5. So.. it looks like they'll make Amane's route the canon one?

I'm actually considering putting this anime on hold, since i started reading/playing the VN, which is unexpectedly amazing, and it seems i'm getting spoiled like crazy. I only just entered Amane's route, but i guess 8bit leaving out alot of things is good for me.
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Nov 23, 2014 6:36 PM

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Nov 23, 2014 6:50 PM

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Seems someone is targeting Makina's family and they want to make sure all the heirs are death.
And the question is how will Kazama solve it this time.

Well i guess next week should be nice hopefully things don't get rushed this time.
Nov 23, 2014 6:54 PM

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Well, at least we got some potty mouth Makina moments. I love how Yuuji is simultaneously a good and bad influence on her.
Nov 23, 2014 7:25 PM

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such a pedo episode....
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Nov 23, 2014 7:38 PM

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Well since I haven't played the VN at a anime watcher only I'd say this is turning out to be a rather enjoyable anime. I like how you learn about every character and what their problems are. I will most definitely play the VN after this is over and see how it "actually" should have turned out.
Nov 23, 2014 8:02 PM

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Wow, this is better than last episode..

Will they include
Nov 23, 2014 8:04 PM

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That pedo "incest" kiss, was sooooo awkward. I really didn't expect that.
QUALITY aside it was a okay episode considering I hate the loli. Also, was good to know more of Yuuji's backstory.

Amane's route when?
Nov 23, 2014 8:21 PM

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I'm liking how they're handling this route, changing things here and there but covering enough of the stuff you need to know. Question is if Makina and Amane will get 3 episodes each or will they finish this up in the next episode..
Nov 23, 2014 9:18 PM

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Good episode! Excited for the next one :)
Nov 23, 2014 9:32 PM

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This was a pretty good episode actually, the pacing improved a lot compared to the other arcs.

"Gotta shove stuff in her pipes or she'll get clogged"
"I'll shove a rod up your hole and make you cry" lol WTF, that's a dirty mouth you got Makina...

Holy shit that car scene...caught me completely off guard.

Finding out more about Yuuji's job and past.

That kiss though...that was hot, really hot and passionate, didn't see it coming, i should have expected it with that dirty mouth she has, such dirty, naughty mouth...Judge me.

5/5
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Nov 23, 2014 9:47 PM

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what the fuck was with the whole "papa" thing? do you male watchers have a fetish for that?
Nov 23, 2014 9:56 PM

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Gr33ncar said:
such a pedo episode....


how? Makina is 15 and Yuuji is 16... do you even know what pedo means?
Nov 24, 2014 12:07 AM

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Gr33ncar said:
such a loli episode....
Fixed

deanzel said:
It looks like there are gonna be some fireworks in the next episode.
Agreed,lol

sanlei said:
linktriforce007 said:
Kind of reminds me of how that one girl decided to protect the other girl from all the other evil girls in Akuma no Riddle..

I know teh anime version of Grisaia is mostly stupid thanks to 8bit doin' mostly a bad hellish rushed original job, but i still never thought i would read dat comparison again after teh stupid foreshadowin' of episode 1 lol
Its a valid comparison this time tho...He is an assassin and he is protecting the person he should have killed...
Nov 24, 2014 1:16 AM

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I hope Makina isn't kissing her real dad like that before her dad died... btw cool episode...
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Nov 24, 2014 1:56 AM

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Seventy million just to be her father? That seems a bit low? Haha! That kiss though. She was making that seventy million optimal. Haha! Someone just wants the Irisu heiress' to be dead. I'm guessing it's someone who harbors anger for the Irisu family.
Well, they completely stated that he is, in fact, a real assassin. I hope he won't do or even agree in killing her. That would just be so sad.
Nov 24, 2014 2:03 AM

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DeadZeroSource said:
I hope Makina isn't kissing her real dad like that before her dad died... btw cool episode...
Well she was too little for that kind of stuff when her dad died,so dont worry
Nov 24, 2014 3:02 AM
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Maledict said:
So.. it looks like they'll make Amane's route the canon one?

No. The canon route are the grand (or true) routes in Meikyuu and Rakuen.

At the very least, Grisaia no Meikyuu's adaptation is almost confirmed.
Nov 24, 2014 5:47 AM

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That kiss was like whoooooaa!!
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Nov 24, 2014 9:32 AM

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Woah that ending. I don't think he will be able to kill her.
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Nov 24, 2014 11:48 AM

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they adapted it pretty well
Nov 24, 2014 1:51 PM

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Sarina died, right? I mean the damn car exploded! she can't possibly be alive... if she did not die of the explosion itself, then she at least burned to death.
Nov 24, 2014 2:03 PM

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I really enjoyed this lovely episode. It didn't feel like a rushed comedy trainwrecks like the previous routes (which were still entertaining as fuck).
I believe Amane should be adapted well at this rate.
This adaptation is far from ideal, but it doesn't mean it's not enjoyable while it lasts (:
Nov 24, 2014 3:08 PM

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This adaption quality still makes me so damn sad that such a good VN got such a mediocre adaption. At least we got the kiss.
Nov 24, 2014 3:21 PM

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O shit please no D:
Well unless she was the reason her little sister blew blew up
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Nov 24, 2014 4:32 PM

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Nov 24, 2014 4:39 PM

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that Kiss and that check :o

lol Makina mock

poor Makina little sister was bombed :(

Yuuji need to kill Makina? D:

Nice Makina arc

Nov 24, 2014 7:47 PM

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10/10 quality
good writing
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Nov 24, 2014 8:08 PM

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That pic was on my mind through this episode ...

YES
Nov 24, 2014 9:55 PM

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The twists and surprises are what I enjoyed the most in this series.
I can't wait for the next episode. It's time for Yuuji to decide.
Nov 24, 2014 10:18 PM

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I just remembered something. What reasons are there to kill Makina
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Nov 24, 2014 10:35 PM

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How nitpicky am I to be concerned with the little quality drop ? lol

Cool episode though
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Nov 24, 2014 10:55 PM

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Pik3Rob said:
I just remembered something. What reasons are there to kill Makina



I could be completely wrong, but that's how I remembered it happening.
Nov 24, 2014 11:45 PM

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Pik3Rob said:
I just remembered something. What reasons are there to kill Makina
And with her sister hospitalized she may be the only candidate to be next heir...So killing her is plain stupid... ... ... ...But rest assured,they will change her route so it will make much less sense next episode
Nov 24, 2014 11:59 PM

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talentlessash said:
Pik3Rob said:
I just remembered something. What reasons are there to kill Makina



I could be completely wrong, but that's how I remembered it happening.


LonelyWizard said:
And with her sister hospitalized she may be the only candidate to be next heir...So killing her is plain stupid... ... ... ...But rest assured,they will change her route so it will make much less sense next episode

Actually One thing they could have done is that
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Nov 25, 2014 12:29 AM

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Pik3Rob said:
LonelyWizard said:
And with her sister hospitalized she may be the only candidate to be next heir...So killing her is plain stupid... ... ... ...But rest assured,they will change her route so it will make much less sense next episode

Actually One thing they could have done is that
yeah and killing her is a little..waste...I really wonder who are the guys doing these "rewriting scenario" things when they go anime original...First this,then akame ga kill...They must be grade schoolers or something...Its like they are aiming for maximum amount of plot holes...
Nov 25, 2014 2:59 AM

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Yeah yar points are valid, but its clear they just wanted to shock(like always) with teh sudden cliffhanger and had no time anyway like always(gotta love their plan to shovel everythin' of teh vn in this anime lol). Lets see how and if this will make any sense in teh next episode^^

Like before said: This episode is by itself okay as it provided at least fun even with this plothole, teh real problems are comin' next episode^^
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Nov 25, 2014 3:14 AM

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Speaking of who wrote this episode, He is a totally different person from the previous episodes.

http://myanimelist.net/people/19291/Takahashi_Tatsuya

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=72643

read this part



so yeah I am sure he did worte to the end of this season

And you guys forgot something very, very important

the writers of grisaia who behind any original route in this anime
Nov 25, 2014 3:15 AM

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See 8bit, ya can do it when ya try! Although next episode is likely to be bs again considering the cycle they're working on here
Nov 25, 2014 12:51 PM

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Shadowripp3r said:
This adaption quality still makes me so damn sad that such a good VN got such a mediocre adaption. At least we got the kiss.


It seems that the majority of the viewers posting on the forum have seen the VN, which I have not. That said, while there may be a lot of hate associated with an adaptation deviating a good deal from the original, this doesn't necessarily always equate to a bad anime. Definitely when you have seen the source material before you want to see the same story you originally read come to life. However, I'd say that if the adaptation is significantly different yet manages to tell a decent story on par with the original, it is still a noteworthy anime. FMA original is a pretty good example of this; it's a pretty damn good anime which even has a few qualities that I'd say were better than FMA brotherhood (which stayed more true to the original material (for obvious reasons.))

All this being said, I'm not particularly thrilled by this anime, so if the VN is as good as everyone seems to indicate then I can appreciate the frustration. Even without seeing the Vn I'm frustrated with wasted potential that one can pick up on having solely seen the anime.

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what the fuck was with the whole "papa" thing? do you male watchers have a fetish for that?


I should hope not. If someone has a sexual fantasy of being called papa by some loli... I just can't imagine that. Usually with this sort of situation they try to evoke a paternal sense rather than a strange fetish, but it definitely seems with the kiss scene that they are doing the opposite... kind of gross. Similarly, in the beginning of the show Makina addressed him as her sister so male viewers are supposed to look at her in an older brotherly sense. Personally, I've never been an older brother nor do I have a sister, so i can't relate here. When I watched this episode (as well as previous episodes) though, I didn't think of it in the perverse manner that people have pointed out here. I mean... they really aren't related; she wants him to act like her papa because she has obvious emotional issues stemming from her father's death, and she kissed him because it is probably quite possible that despite her own belief that she wants him to act like her sibling or father, she has developed some feelings for him (which, given that they are of similar age and aren't related, is totally fine.) It would make sense that she would confuse her feelings for her desire for familial love given the confusion and mental issues arising from her past. This being said, misunderstandings are sure to arise from the situation, which they were probably counting on. I haven't seen the novel, so I'm at an obvious disadvantage when speculating on the material.

I found the beginning of the episode odd although I think that I understood where they were coming from (although, this "understand" could be misguided). The ending, however, seems to portend some interesting events to come. Hopefully they can up the ante here!
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turtleinshell said:
mayukachan said:
what the fuck was with the whole "papa" thing? do you male watchers have a fetish for that?


I should hope not. If someone has a sexual fantasy of being called papa by some loli... I just can't imagine that. Usually with this sort of situation they try to evoke a paternal sense rather than a strange fetish, but it definitely seems with the kiss scene that they are doing the opposite... kind of gross. Similarly, in the beginning of the show Makina addressed him as her sister so male viewers are supposed to look at her in an older brotherly sense. Personally, I've never been an older brother nor do I have a sister, so i can't relate here. When I watched this episode (as well as previous episodes) though, I didn't think of it in the perverse manner that people have pointed out here. I mean... they really aren't related; she wants him to act like her papa because she has obvious emotional issues stemming from her father's death, and she kissed him because it is probably quite possible that despite her own belief that she wants him to act like her sibling or father, she has developed some feelings for him (which, given that they are of similar age and aren't related, is totally fine.) It would make sense that she would confuse her feelings for her desire for familial love given the confusion and mental issues arising from her past. This being said, misunderstandings are sure to arise from the situation, which they were probably counting on. I haven't seen the novel, so I'm at an obvious disadvantage when speculating on the material.

I found the beginning of the episode odd although I think that I understood where they were coming from (although, this "understand" could be misguided). The ending, however, seems to portend some interesting events to come. Hopefully they can up the ante here!
In the VN there was almost no romance until the last part so they had a good Father x daughter relationship until then...
Nov 25, 2014 7:38 PM

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Pik3Rob said:
I just remembered something. What reasons are there to kill Makina


That's true but it may be too early to jump the gun.

Nov 25, 2014 10:53 PM

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DeadZeroSource said:
I hope Makina isn't kissing her real dad like that before her dad died... btw cool episode...


no, I don't think so..
she probably develop this extreme electra complex due to her trauma..

remember, no "normal" girls in this academy..
most of their silly behavior usually had some sort of explanation behind them
including why Amane doesn't like eating meat, as it have been hinted at episode 2 or 3

on topic, nice to see they slow down the pace
really like this episode 5/5
Nov 26, 2014 3:44 AM

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lol well then. Yuuji is one lucky ass papa/onii-chan.

Damn, that kissing from that loli. Dream.

5/5.
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