| The answer is most likely no for the time being. This might not be an anime but Valkyrie Chronicles 4 a very anime inspired game from Japan. A game about war and the tragedies of war had a character whose main trait was to sexually assault the female soldiers of his squad for the lols. Felt very out of place and forced and out of place with the theme of the game. Same with anime if the show is is about the booty and boobs coolio but if it's trying to be serious and keep a certain atmosphere to the show then it's very distracting and hurts the overall show in the end but its all up to the studio and creator not every anime has these elements |
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HeruruMeruru said: StorySoFar said: The answer is most likely no for the time being. This might not be an anime but Valkyrie Chronicles 4 a very anime inspired game from Japan. A game about war and the tragedies of war had a character whose main trait was to sexually assault the female soldiers of his squad for the lols. Felt very out of place and forced and out of place with the them of the game. Same with anime if the show is is about the booty and boobs coolio but if it's trying to be serious and keep a certain atmosphere to the show then it's very distracting and hurts the overall show in the end Yep, I find shoehorning ecchi where it doesn't belong is a big problem in modern JRPGs, moreso than anime I find. Just look at the Trails series. Trails in the Sky had probably one of the most likable and not-sexualized female protagonists in the medium, and one of the few who actually gets a love interest, and didn't rely too much on cheap fanservice and then Trails of Cold Steel was just made into a school harem thing. Granted, I've heard the worldbuilding and story and such is still good, but everyone I've spoken to seems to reaffirm my assumption that the female characters are written as satellites for the lead and a far cry from Estelle. Sounds like they are just there to be a prize and reward for the player which is not good characterization. Which sucks coming from a series with good female character development as you said. |
EndlessMaria said: Bunsuke said: will america ever stop prioritizing violence? I'm waiting for you to possibly defend why american media isn't absolute fucking trash, since you felt the need to bring it up. You must love hollywood films. Someone who doen't like films? Finally found a person like me. |
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QPR said: Looks like we have another prude here, how on earth can anyone think boobs=bad but violence and gore=good. Equating someone who gets annoyed with excessive ecchi with "prude" is quite a reach. 1.) Nudity does not always equal ecchi. Made in Abyss has nudity but it wasn't ecchi. The iconic bathtub scene in Perfect Blue isn't ecchi. Presentation matters. Context matters. 2.) You can be a very sexually-open person and still get annoyed that you're trying to watch a story and the story tries to keep shoving saggy balloon tits at your face. There's a certain internet site with an iconic orange logo whose name starts with "P" and ends with "ornhub" for when you're horny. Trying to watch a serious moment framed with an ass-shot is not that. QPR said: I hope Japan makes even more Ecchi because there isn't enough and they turn it up to 11 like in Manyuu Hikenchou just to annoy the femnazis.. Ah. Classic. And that's not an amused "classic". --- This thread is hilarious. OP: "Japan is-" Several dumfucks: "BUT WHAT ABOUT AMERICA REEEE!" |
MerryJellyFishAug 19, 2019 4:00 AM
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| Yeah ecchi isn't going away anytime soon. It's been apart of anime for years. I do wish that they would stop throwing ecchi scenes in more serious shows though. It really ruins the mood sometimes. |
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| I see, so you're one of those who hates the comedy in fma. Fma without the comedy would be too dark/edgy, come on, the mains are kids, you're telling me you would prefer a fma looking like texhnolyze? Why can't we have comedy is serious shows? It's not like it was over the top. As for ecchi, there are many shows that are without it, just look at naruto. Either you put the ecchi or not it's the creator's choice. You're over reacting. |
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StorySoFar said: The answer is most likely no for the time being. This might not be an anime but Valkyrie Chronicles 4 a very anime inspired game from Japan. A game about war and the tragedies of war had a character whose main trait was to sexually assault the female soldiers of his squad for the lols. Felt very out of place and forced and out of place with the theme of the game. Same with anime if the show is is about the booty and boobs coolio but if it's trying to be serious and keep a certain atmosphere to the show then it's very distracting and hurts the overall show in the end but its all up to the studio and creator not every anime has these elements Wait...Japan made a rapey WW2 character for the lolz? LMAO YIKES But in all serious I think this post is where I stand on when it comes to ecchi. A lot pf people seem kind of prudish to that aspect of anime but don't mind being bombarded with sexualized females in all other mediums. I think maybe its because ww don't get raunchy animation in the west, and so the most crazy stuff you'll ever see hand drawn usually has something to do with violence. 2D tits = weird 2d innards = noice But where its just stupid is when the atmosphere evokes a certain tone (like ww2 lmao, but Japan can't read the mood on that one) and ecchi still gets used for the yuks. I wouldn't mind if there were moresexual relationships in more darker anime though. Misato and Kaji is a good example. And I don't even mind if a dark show depicts a dark sexual act, WW2 was a clusterfuck of epic proportions so seeing soldiers raping civilians or other soldiers wouldn't be out of place. But when its played for laugh I think thats just when I usually tune out and switch the show. And I saw someone mention other jrpg series becoming more sexualized when they didn't use to be. Are there other such examples? |
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MerryJellyFish said: Equating someone who gets annoyed with excessive ecchi with "prude" is quite a reach. It is, yeah. Or it would be, if we weren't discussing somebody who's trying to call for culling it from the medium because of their personal distaste for it, and they weren't being reliant on over-state prominence and hyperbolic reactions to try to force their point and ascribe a level of value to it that it'll never be able to uphold. Because, really, that's what this always amounts to. We're taking it out of the realm of complaining about short jokes or brief scenes because you dislike them, and taking it into the realm of blowing the issue out of proportion entirely. The fact that there are people biting on this and agreeing with it in spite that it'd take all of two seconds worth of thought to see that it's inciteful, panic-mongering bullshit just makes me feel like humanity has declined beyond the point of no return. This person is not merely complaining. They're employing panic-inciting rhetoric and trying to convince people that all of these things they're complaining about is totally unavoidable. Trying to employ rhetorics to make people feel like ecchi is an invasive form of content on the media they consume and needs to go away is a behavior that constitutes calling somebody a prude in my book. They show their true colors about being purge-minded towards ecchi and behaving in a way that's purposefully inciteful pretty blatantly right here: EndlessMaria said: ecchi is the cancer that refuses to die until enough people complain about it to make it a serious issue, then it can finally be put away for good and be remembered as an embarrassing chapter of cultural history. They really don't need any form of protection, let alone from being called something as basic as a prude. Somebody acting like an asshole is not going to be absolved from being called names just because it's within their right to express that they are an asshole. MerryJellyFish said: 2.) You can be a very sexually-open person and still get annoyed that you're trying to watch a story and the story tries to keep shoving saggy balloon tits at your face. There's a certain internet site with an iconic orange logo whose name starts with "P" and ends with "ornhub" for when you're horny. Porn and hentai aren't ever going to be a substitute for ecchi because the only thing binding them together is that they're both sexualized media. They way they're able to connect with their audience and the style of appeal that they both have does not make one an adequate replacement for the other. Trying to urge audiences to just go watch something else has never worked for a reason, because spouting that nonsense has been a thing for a decade or so now at the very least. I'm not going to watch porn or hentai if I wanna watch an ecchi and get the style of fanservice that anime provides so well. There are more ways to connect with and appeal to an audience than just the narrative, and there are more ways for this to be done well and in a way that's praise-worthy than just simply trying to tell the narrative in the most point A to point B fashion possible. Fanservice is one of those - the stuff that'd be intrusive in pornography can exist within this space and create contexts that go beyond simply seeing somebody in an outfit or what have you. You can see characters you become interested in, you can see cool action and funny comedy, you can see all sorts of things and it's all sexualized in a way that's leaving things to the imagination and allowing the viewer to interact with it in a way that's much more personal than WATCH DICK ENTER VAGINA FROM OTHER SIDE OF MONITOR. MerryJellyFish said: Trying to watch a serious moment framed with an ass-shot is not that. Rhetorics like "Trying to watch a serious moment framed with an ass-shot is not that" are only trying to further that illusory prominence over-prominence narrative. It exists in more than an isolated incident; therefore, it's over-saturating the medium. It's the same style of logic that leads to the hyperbole about the prominence of isekai, and magic schools before it, and harems before that, and CGDCT before that. We don't look at the actual levels of how prominent something is, we just cripple ourselves with ignorance and start treating these things like they're unavoidable. It comes off more like it's trying to create panic to justify calling for purging certain things in media beyond a certain point, and we are well beyond that point with this specific type of complaint about ecchi. When you run across it and don't like it, it's within bounds to complain about it. But the way that's being framed here, and in many other places, is trying to stimulate the idea that it's an omnipresent feature in anime, whenever serious ecchi scenes are a fraction of a fraction of fanservice scenes in non-ecchi series in the first place. It never felt right in the slightest to ascribe such a degree of prominence to it, and I am led to believe that this narrative only persists due to the torch-and-pitchfork mentality of a lot of people who are anti-ecchi and not due to an actual examination of how prominent that type of shot you're describing is. The few shots like that which do exists are desparately rounded up, put into isolation, then blown up and billboarded for the sake of trying to further a ECCHI ONLY RUINS EVERYTHING WE MUST PURGE IT narrative. It's not possible for me to get sold on that, sorry. HeruruMeruru said: Let's not resort to name calling and insults. Dude's irritating me with his constant clockwork "no fun allowed if you're not a horny straight dude" shit but I'm trying to remain calm and rational. I would appreciate if he would address all of my rebuttals, though and not just snip out and completely ignore 80% of the post. Meh, he does this every time and it's always fucking annoying. Not like the OP is being much better or behaving in a way that's been particularly rational from the outset, mind you. I'm going to propose that we're all better off just letting them have their shitty slapfight amongst themselves. They seem to be perfect for each other with the type of bullshit they want to spew. HeruruMeruru said: There's currently a trend in isekai where the guy's harem are SLAVES. How is that not objectification? We're treating objectification as if it's bad because it's implying that this is a type of thing that the viewer who enjoys this sort of thing wouldn't mind it in real life, no? That's what I'm taking away from this, at least, because I don't see what trying to push an "objectification in fiction is inherently bad" narrative is trying to accomplish unless there's concerns about these mentalities trailing over into real life. Because, if that's the basis we're operating off of to present fantastical sexual objectification and that it's emblematic of a desire in the viewer in some way, shape, or form, then I guess it's safe to say that the commonality of rape fantasies among females mean that the women having them are totally cool with being raped. To make an issue along these lines about the issue of objectification bleeding into reality within what's a fantastical realm, we can't have a pick and choose buffet style logic. I don't believe that, mind you, I think it's bullshit, but these types of concerns about the way something is portrayed in a setting that's removed from reality always feels like it's being selectively applied to the person's distastes and never brought to include the entire spectrum of how fantasy and reality can and do not intersect. Fantasy is separate from reality, far more than people give it credit for. And sexualized fantasy specifically tends to be very one-sided because it lacks the necessity of being a two-way street like an actual sex act does. People understand that, though, or at least the vast majority do. It's why we're not living in an apocalyptic, barbaric society and are able to maintain civility. It's why this is all pointless, it's why this whole thread is pointless. So nah. The mere idea that sexual objectification in fictional media is an issue grander than personal offenses and distastes is one I've never been sold on. This is the common route that it tends to entail and it's always felt like the same style of fear-mongering that the religious right has with videogames about shooting and shit. AKROMIX said: will America ever stop f***ing with other countries? No, not anytime soon. America has a strong culture of moral imperialism and have trouble grasping a lot of things being different than the way they're accustomed to it being. This is not a new thing, they seem to be baffled and react with strong negativity when they find out that their age of consent and drinking age are very high compared to every other first world country, or that I can go to a furniture store and buy a nudie poster on the same rack that the fucking fortnite ones are being sold on. I think it's because they tend to raise children in their schooling system through a very amero-centric and insular point of view and thus they're not especially well equipped to deal with such things, thus WE MUST CHANGE IT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH AMERICAN VALUES. Even if it's not the directly stated intent, it tends to be a prominent fixture in moral viewpoints coming from Americans. Teenagers who simply rattle off THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION HAPPENED BECAUSE THE BRITISH WERE TAXING US to me whenever I'm having a history fight with them and are completely unaware of the Seven Years' War existing and *who started that* is...concerning. Or the amount of them who praise Manifest Destiny as anything more than a meme, 'cause, y'know, "God chose us to have all of this land from coast to coast" is not a silly justification for expansion whatsoever, unless you're a medieval peasant. America's primary and secondary curriculums seem tailored to instill values of ignorance and "America good and always correct, everyone else bad" in their children. Whether or not they agree with that level of directness, it tends to manifest itself in a lot of ways. This is why people are always making an issue of "18+" specifically, by the way, be it through anime complaints with under-18 characters being sexualized or why that's the main age-gate for porn on a lot of services. Because that age gate is higher than the age of consent pretty much everywhere over here in Europe, but many Americans can't seem to grasp the idea of the age of consent being anything other than 18 and it gets laid out like it's a universal law ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Anglo-Saxon Moral Culture, UK or USA either one, is a plague upon the rest of the world. ----- Anyway, I love ecchi and want more of it. It's a fucking blast, and the way it works isn't exactly like ecchi is a genre by itself and more just a content tag to tell people that this series features fanservice prominently, meaning that relegating it is pretty much a lost cause whenever it's pretty much invariably working on top of some kind of more standard narrative or set-up as is. TLR is still a school romcom with aliens, DxD still is demon battle shounen-ish thing, HSotD is still a spoof-y zombie action survival bit, Umisho is still a swim club comedy and Yosuga no Sora is still a omnibus harem drama. All of these shows just happen to feature sexualization to the point where it's a prominent fixture. Relegating it to one genre will never work, basically, because it's not a genre. It's the reason people complain about High School of the Dead focusing so much on its ecchi whenever they wanted a serious, The Walking Dead-style zombie survival horror. It's the reason complaints like that are also very common. Ecchi is a western-constructed genre. It isn't a form of categorization whatsoever in the domestic market, at most it's "This series exists and is lewd," given that ecchi is the buzzterm for all things lewd over there. You cannot relegate things exclusively into a genre that doesn't exist. |
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StorySoFar said: Valkyrie Chronicles 4 a very anime inspired game from Japan. A game about war and the tragedies of war had a character whose main trait was to sexually assault the female soldiers of his squad for the lols. This meme needs to die. Do some people in this thread consider a hot girl existing in anime to be 'ecchi?' A serious question. |
| will people ever stop prioritizing this stupid whiny crybaby "japan needs to stop doing things i don't agree with" threads? maybe people should STOP taking anime so fucking seriously Manaban said: The Holocaust wasn't a fundamentally bad idea. The mistake was targeting people based on ethnicity and not based on what they say on internet discussion boards, though. THE HUNT xD AD version |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 19, 2019 7:24 AM
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| So, I've shared that frustration in the past, to great lengths, I must say. So, I'll try to explain why it doesn't bother me as much, nowadays, and why I don't think that will ever change. Also, not sure prioritizing is the right word. To begin with, it is very common to have a fan service episode somewhere in the middle of shows, especially when we're talking about the standard sol/school/shounen show. I'd go as far as saying it is a "fundamental" part of a lot of shows, and something the audience of the respective shows except to have. Futhermore, as some here already stated, I am also of the opinion it is a culture thing. I don't want to dive further into this as I don't have the "data", nor have "studied" the particular impact of Japanese culture in this specific matter. This said, given the popularity of such scenes, and adding the percentage of Japanese men who don't engange in sexual/romantic relationships, there is at least a base for this claim and their popularity. To conclude, even though I'm not a fan of silly, out of place, ecchi scenes in more serious anime/manga, I do understand why they are there, and having become aware of this, I do find a bunch of them fun, despite not being needed. |
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HeruruMeruru said: There's currently a trend in isekai where the guy's harem are SLAVES. How is that not objectification? Reki Kawahara literally admitted in an interview that he has a problem of writing female characters as trophies to be won. And how is something like Yona of the Dawn or Code Realize objectifying men in any way? Because a guy simply being good looking is objectification? Also way to ignore the entire rest of my argument. Shojo and josei /=/ reverse harem. Hell, Yona and Ouran are really the only reverse harem anime I care for outside of otome games, an entirely different medium, but you lumping in AN ENTIRE DEMOGRAPHIC and also coming into every thread for a female targeted work and pooping on people's parades like a Swiss clock is really dickish. Stay in your lane and I'll stay in mine. Just stop. You're not gonna go anywhere with this guy. The moment he says "Women in ecchi anime aren't sexualized" it time to give up. |
EndlessMaria said: ecchi is the cancer that refuses to die until enough people complain about it to make it a serious issue, then it can finally be put away for good and be remembered as an embarrassing chapter of cultural history. Hmm good luck changing someone's mind by calling their culture based on hundreds of years of history trash And no, 3 or 4 nobodies complaining on an internet forum won't make anything a serious issue |
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syncrogazer said: StorySoFar said: Valkyrie Chronicles 4 a very anime inspired game from Japan. A game about war and the tragedies of war had a character whose main trait was to sexually assault the female soldiers of his squad for the lols. This meme needs to die. Do some people in this thread consider a hot girl existing in anime to be 'ecchi?' A serious question. I own the game and Raz ruins the mood a lot early on. I'm just saying my distaste for it considering the themes of the game and the first game which had none of it at all. |
Haunt-MeAug 19, 2019 10:17 AM
StorySoFar said: Sounds like they are just there to be a prize and reward for the player which is not good characterization. Which sucks coming from a series with good female character development as you said. Estelle's love interest is literally her brother. If the roles would be reversed like this type of relationship usually is, you can be 100% sure these people would complain about incest tropes. |
petran79 said: Somali_Strawhat said: Wait...Japan made a rapey WW2 character for the lolz? Reactions for vc4 were out of proportion. Character in question (Raz) was constantly beaten to a pulp and later he makes up for the character he insulted by risking his life. They even develop a relationship. Vc1 had sylvaria featuring huge tits because character designer was a famous hentai artist. Vc2 had turned the game into school comedy. Vc4 was in tune with all of the above. It even had a hot bath scene with nudity. Now we will get Sakura Wars 6,featuring even more awkward scenes There is no point trying to expect seriousness from anime games. Western games try to be so serious they are even funnier I didn't say I hate the game I still own it and loved the first game to death. Even with Selvaria Bles character design the first game had a tone and really stuck with it the whole game and didn't need a character like Raz. There were moments of unnecessary sexualization of woman in 4. I'm not expecting seriousness out of every game. If I buy dead or alive beach volleyball yea I want it heavily sexualized as the game is intended to be. |
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mecharobot said: StorySoFar said: Sounds like they are just there to be a prize and reward for the player which is not good characterization. Which sucks coming from a series with good female character development as you said. Estelle's love interest is literally her brother. If the roles would be reversed like this type of relationship usually is, you can be 100% sure these people would complain about incest tropes. I'm just going on about what HeruruMeruru said. I've never played any of the games. |
| Yeesh, this thread turned nuclear quick LMFAO I'm pretty sure that a thread discussion isn't analagous to directly interfering with the game development process so some of y'all should take a xan and chill out. syncrogazer said: StorySoFar said: Valkyrie Chronicles 4 a very anime inspired game from Japan. A game about war and the tragedies of war had a character whose main trait was to sexually assault the female soldiers of his squad for the lols. This meme needs to die. Do some people in this thread consider a hot girl existing in anime to be 'ecchi?' A serious question. Yeah, pretty sure hot girls or even sex isn't really the gripe. Not to use the cliche high watermark of anime but LotGH has a shit ton of people having sex with hot women. No one complains about the ecchi elements though. And I'm pretty sure people actually LIKE to see people fuck. But I'm just kinda done with the utter lack of originality that comes attached to shows with plots the creators CLEARLY want their audiences to treat with seriousness, only to undermine themselves with scenes that force juvenile sex comedy out of no where. Light hearted romcoms are whatever, not a big deal, but I've watched way too many a show that wants to depict this grand complex struggle...and oh shit I HAD NO IDEA YOU WERE IN THE BATHROOM ONEE CHAN BAKA BONK END JOKE Lets go right back to fighting to death. Or maybe thats just me LMFAO |
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Somali_Strawhat said: Light hearted romcoms are whatever, not a big deal, but I've watched way too many a show that wants to depict this grand complex struggle...and oh shit I HAD NO IDEA YOU WERE IN THE BATHROOM ONEE CHAN BAKA BONK END JOKE Can you give an example of this happening in a serious anime? Because otherwise this sounds like the propagation of another dumb meme that barely corresponds to reality. I've watched a decent amount of anime, and I don't believe I've ever seen this the way you're describing it. |
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HopefulNihilist said: EndlessMaria said: @ThatRazorGuy @DeadlyRaven please close this thread. it will just become a shit storm most likely I thought you guys loved shitstorms. Why else do my old threads from 1-2 years ago have so many posters? MAL users are attracted to controversy like moths to a flame :) Lol clearly, since the mods ignored my request to close this thread despite deleting 10 or so posts from it. |
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EndlessMaria said: BallisticRiot said: It's part of their culture and a lot of things are heavily fetishized in Japanese culture and that's reflected in anime. I agree that it's often unnecessarily inserted and can take away from a show, but it's here to stay :/ Their culture can be pretty irritating. Trips to the beach, hot springs, festivals, club activities, I'm fucking sick of all of it. However, despite this japan seems to create the most amount of media that appeals to me compared to media from other places of the world. Even so, it's frustrating seeing the same cliches again and again and again. EndlessMaria said: filmtoaster2 said: Sounds like a cliche answer, but don't like it, don't watch? Their culture, they choose what they want to consume, and fanservice is what sells a lot. Not the biggest thing there, but definitely a market. If their culture is trash then I have the right to treat it as such. My native culture is trash too. Fuck em all. Well you know what, when you watch anime, you are consuming and participating, partially, in Japanese culture. You don't have the right to dictate what they're allowed to do in their shows or try to change their culture and values. I feel like people shouldn't really become anime fans if they think Japanese culture is trash or don't have an appreciation for it. Since you've trashed at least three countries' cultures in this thread, perhaps you should just accept that you're frustrated with just about every country's culture. If sex is the big issue, then you're going to have to start looking at stuff produced by third world nations because sexual themes are a big part of movies and TV in all first world nations. Perhaps you should look elsewhere and figure out what country's culture actually appeals to your values better and start watching more of their stuff. |
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Ryuk9428 said: Well you know what, when you watch anime, you are consuming and participating, partially, in Japanese culture. You don't have the right to dictate what they're allowed to do in their shows or try to change their culture and values. I feel like people shouldn't really become anime fans if they think Japanese culture is trash or don't have an appreciation for it. Since you've trashed at least three countries' cultures in this thread, perhaps you should just accept that you're frustrated with just about every country's culture. If sex is the big issue, then you're going to have to start looking at stuff produced by third world nations because sexual themes are a big part of movies and TV in all first world nations. Perhaps you should look elsewhere and figure out what country's culture actually appeals to your values better and start watching more of their stuff. I will just create my own work that takes place within a completely asexual world. |
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EndlessMaria said: Ryuk9428 said: Well you know what, when you watch anime, you are consuming and participating, partially, in Japanese culture. You don't have the right to dictate what they're allowed to do in their shows or try to change their culture and values. I feel like people shouldn't really become anime fans if they think Japanese culture is trash or don't have an appreciation for it. Since you've trashed at least three countries' cultures in this thread, perhaps you should just accept that you're frustrated with just about every country's culture. If sex is the big issue, then you're going to have to start looking at stuff produced by third world nations because sexual themes are a big part of movies and TV in all first world nations. Perhaps you should look elsewhere and figure out what country's culture actually appeals to your values better and start watching more of their stuff. I will just create my own work that takes place within a completely asexual world. So like a world full of Goku's? I don't think the world would function that well then unless they have a different way to breed babies like doing something filthy as holding hands = baby. |
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-Stray said: EndlessMaria said: I will just create my own work that takes place within a completely asexual world. So like a world full of Goku's? I don't think the world would function that well then unless they have a different way to breed babies like doing something filthy as holding hands = baby. In a fictional fantasy/scifi world, there are alternate ways for babies to be born. They could be delivered by storks, grow from the ground like plants, or in a technologically advanced setting it could be all done by computers that construct sets of dna. Just takes a bit of imagination. |
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| It always puzzles me that people watch and I think enjoy anime and other Japanese media yet want to make it NOT Japanese. Japan is Japan and there are many gifts of the culture, and they are all part of each other. Hope you will continue to enjoy what you enjoy, and may in time be able to not worry about parts you don't. :) |
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CrisGer_San_AA said: It always puzzles me that people watch and I think enjoy anime and other Japanese media yet want to make it NOT Japanese. Japan is Japan and there are many gifts of the culture, and they are all part of each other. Hope you will continue to enjoy what you enjoy, and may in time be able to not worry about parts you don't. :) You do know it's possible to like aspects of japanese culture while also being repulsed by over sexualization, correct? Ecchi isn't everything, I'm sure you must be aware. |
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