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Dec 8, 2013 7:26 PM

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damn it, what did he see!?
Dec 8, 2013 7:30 PM

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DeAnimation said:
I really changed my view of Kaiki.
He's on my awesome list now.


Same.
This arc is probably the one I've enjoyed the most yet and god knows how much I've been enjoying the -monogatari series.
Dec 8, 2013 8:11 PM

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Kaiki sure has a nice pad, or was that a 5 star hotel lol?
Dec 8, 2013 8:16 PM

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Why do I have the feeling that the secret inside Nadeko's closet is something trivial (to a normal person). Like Kaiki saying "WTH is this?" means more like "Really? This is it?! This is the secret? *smh*" and would end up actually being hilarious. A childhood diary or something.

Peace peace XD!

And the OP is definitely full of win. Blast from the past haha ^^
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Dec 8, 2013 8:24 PM

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LMAO! That opening. Best op ever. Great episode again.

Kaiki just keeps on getting better.
Dec 8, 2013 10:18 PM

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All in all this episode was pretty good for the Senjougahara and Kaiki development, it's nice to see Kaiki show some sympathy but I wonder how long it'll last. It was pretty obvious something serious was gonna be in that closet, I mean, the only thing Nadeko wanted to hide? Sounded fishy from the start.

mugi said:
My mouth didn't want to close when that OP played. Trollmonogatari is complete now.


There needs to be a spin-off series called Trollmonogatari. XD
Dec 8, 2013 10:21 PM

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xchee said:
Why do I have the feeling that the secret inside Nadeko's closet is something trivial (to a normal person). Like Kaiki saying "WTH is this?" means more like "Really? This is it?! This is the secret? *smh*" and would end up actually being hilarious. A childhood diary or something.


Possibly. But he already thinks she's naive airhead, so something trivial wouldn't likely surprise him. So the question is, what would shock him?
Dec 8, 2013 11:29 PM
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Anyone else reminded of the briefcase from Pulp Fiction? "Is that what I think it is...?"
Dec 8, 2013 11:41 PM

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xchee said:
Why do I have the feeling that the secret inside Nadeko's closet is something trivial (to a normal person). Like Kaiki saying "WTH is this?" means more like "Really? This is it?! This is the secret? *smh*" and would end up actually being hilarious. A childhood diary or something.

You are probably right. My bet is that it's something related to Araragi.
Dec 9, 2013 12:31 AM

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I lost it when I heard Kaiki's voice oh my god his seiyuu tried singing so hard
Dec 9, 2013 12:52 AM

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Peeeaacee... lol

Ononoki is fast becoming the best loli.. I bet Kaiki saw some sort of Araragi montages in that closet. Nadeko has some sort of stalker-ish feeling in her. I bet she took tons of Araragi's photos (and Senjogahara's too).
Dec 9, 2013 1:21 AM

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arrrrg...stupid cliffhanger.

kaiki's singing LMFAO...

lol @ kaiki. "Sengoku Nadeko is an idiot."

is it me or is hitagi turning less tsun and more dere?

she's being unfairly cute here
trillshitDec 9, 2013 1:39 AM
Dec 9, 2013 2:46 AM

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The closet.
"Even Speedwagon Kaiki is afraid!"
Dec 9, 2013 2:50 AM
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Aquarius215 said:
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Am I the only one here who thinks that the girl in the opening theme was Kaiki's ex-girlfriend? hmmmm


Yes, you are probably the only one who thinks that.


I quickly dismissed that logic too, but then it had me thinking when it switched to the 90's style of animation that girl was suppose to be Kaiki's ex-lover that looks exactly like Senjougahara or something. And he used to be lovey-dovey like that. 99% sure I'm completely wrong but that comment had me think of a crazy theory like that :P


I'll say this...you guys are pretty good for catching that. It's pretty close to the truth.

That was a trippy retro OP. SHAFT never ceases to amaze me. Yet another incredible episode. This is how a story should be. Things like comedy, love, action, drama, etc. all blended perfectly. Seemingly at-odds qualities can coexist if done right.

Hmm...I wonder what's in the closet that has even Kaiki that surprised...



It was a combination of gut feel and observation when I came up with that conclusion. If you look closely it isn't really Senjougahara. And when Kaiki mention about "she" and "accident" all i think is, Kaiki was a sugar sweet person before.
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Dec 9, 2013 3:23 AM

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Oh god....I feel like Brad Pitt at the end of Seven....WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET!?? WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET??!?
Dec 9, 2013 3:25 AM

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This is the only episode where Ononoki's face looks like an actual 童女. Interesting.
DawnJDec 9, 2013 3:56 AM
日本人はイッちゃってるよ
あいつら未来に生きてんな
Dec 9, 2013 3:36 AM

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Dat opening tho!

Glad to see Hitagi letting out her emotion.

LOL at Ononoki. YEAH, PEACE! PEACE!

Kaiki is such a baws as usual. He better not die!

Nadeko's so crazy lol.

Wonder what's in that closet o.O
Dec 9, 2013 3:37 AM

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yukaru00 said:
Well, everything in this arc is narrated by Kaiki. So, it is hard for me (somehow) to fully grasp Kaiki's interpretation of the situation. Haha

But Kaiki said in the following scene that she cried because her loved one was also saved and she couldn't hold up her tears.

''Senjougahara Hitagi was finally able to relax for the first time now. Of course if it was just about her, she would have been stubborn and not cry over it. But because it meant her lover's life was also spared, she couldn't help but cry about it. That's the type of girl she is. She is a fool like that..''

It's kinda obvious that she didn't get angry with what Kaiki said and she definitely didn't cry because Kaiki's words hurt her, she immediately thanked Kaiki after she came back from the bathroom. Hitagi doesn't cry unless it's about something happening to someone she deeply cares about ( like Hanekewa in Episode 1) at least if we are going based on this season.


Read my previous post which contain some excerpt from the novel regarding the situation. As in the anime it only depicts the expression of Kaiki and Gahara during their conversation but the excerpt explained the situation furthermore, in Kaiki pov of course. You can read hpulley's reply over my post for the next excerpt he posted.

Add: The context here is Gahara's reaction towards Kaiki's crazy suggestion, not Kaiki thought after Gahara's done crying in the washroom.
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Dec 9, 2013 3:59 AM

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WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET!? WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET!? WHAT'S IN THE CLOSET, DAGNABBIT!!

I'm starting to like Kaiki a lot now!! He's becoming one of those antagonists that you love! lol
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Dec 9, 2013 4:04 AM

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I've said it 50 times already but the new OP Kogarashi Sentiment is totally amazing. There is a 4:21 looped version on Nico Nico Douga which... being Nico Nico Douga can be looped forever. Too bad they added a final panel with their own message, otherwise it could be smoothly on repeat forever. But it is the only one I've found that is the actual song without some fool singing or whistling over top of it so... enjoy!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22410534

And some bonus Peace Peace

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22410544

And a funny mashup, Sagishi demo koi ga shitai!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19158326
hpulleyDec 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Dec 9, 2013 4:08 AM

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hpulley said:
I've said it 50 times already but the new OP Kogarashi Sentiment is totally amazing. There is a 4:21 looped version on Nico Nico Douga which... being Nico Nico Douga can be looped forever. Too bad they added a final panel with their own message, otherwise it could be smoothly on repeat forever. But it is the only one I've found that is the actual song without some fool singing or whistling over top of it so... enjoy!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22410534

And some bonus Peace Peace

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22410544


Woah, calm down XD

I love the visuals but Shinichiro Miki's voice just went down the drain. Not that he cannot sing though, just the song is not tuned to his voice lol.
Dec 9, 2013 4:11 AM

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yukaru00 said:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22410534

Woah, calm down XD

I love the visuals but Shinichiro Miki's voice just went down the drain. Not that he cannot sing though, just the song is not tuned to his voice lol.
It's so bad it's good! I just can't get enough of it!
Dec 9, 2013 6:07 AM
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Oh. my. God. I've been laughing non stop at the opening for a while now. I had to pause and take a breather.

Kaiki is amazing as usual.
Dec 9, 2013 8:22 AM
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So, Kaiki's plan is fool Nadeko into believing that Araragi and Hitagi have died in a car accident.......I wonder if Nadeko is that stupid?

I wonder what's inside Nadeko's closet?
Dec 9, 2013 8:27 AM

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What an episode. The new OP :o

What the hell was in that closet !?
Dec 9, 2013 9:12 AM

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Finally, i was waiting for knowing what is in the closet since Nisemonogatari.
Kagenui still has "work" to do, Oshino is god knows where, Ononoki tell Kaiki to leave the town under Gaen orders. It looks like Gaen has a really big plan for the city and Shinobu
Dec 9, 2013 11:38 AM

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omg that opening was glorious
Dec 9, 2013 1:48 PM

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Kaiki is a fucking badass. He's like the Lupin of Monogatari with all the parkour and stuff he was pulling.
Dec 9, 2013 2:04 PM

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OP was unexpectedly an incredible mix of old and new. And what the fuck is in the closet?! Weed? Lethal weapons? an Araragi shrine?
Dec 9, 2013 3:25 PM

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OMG!! When Kaiki said this...
...and this...
...I DIED!!

Just what the hell is in that closet?!

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Dec 9, 2013 3:52 PM

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Another great episode. I'm really enjoying this arc, things are getting very interesting. Not to mention the OP, it is pretty awesome, with that old anime style and stuff.

Great to see Ononoki back, couldn't stop laughing with her "Yeah! Peace, Peace!". Kaiki's reaction to it was even funnier.

Eagerly waiting for the next episode. I'm seriously curious about that closet now.
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Dec 9, 2013 5:13 PM

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Loved the opening. Loved the episode. Loved how Senjouhara and Kaiki were. And...."peace peace" lol ^__^ can't wait to see what's in the closet!
Dec 9, 2013 9:10 PM

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Best OP. 2013.

Kaiki Deishu. Next pop sensation.
Dec 10, 2013 4:34 AM

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LordLagann said:
Best OP. 2013.

Kaiki Deishu. Next pop sensation.


lol it was great
Dec 10, 2013 7:23 AM

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Good episode IMO. Kaiki is getting more awesome. Gaen seem knows everything.
Dec 10, 2013 7:30 AM

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Daipyon said:
loled at the unique opening XD
Damn, like really much lol. Damn Shaft, gets me so much.

Yaaay, dat window climb and also, dat ending.
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Dec 10, 2013 9:28 AM

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Based Kaiki
Dec 10, 2013 2:19 PM

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That OP was totally unexpected. I couldn't keep my jaw from dropping.
Dec 10, 2013 2:31 PM

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lol best OP ever :)
Dec 10, 2013 2:47 PM

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I'm going to be another echo in this thread but that OP literally killed me. Iyaaaay, peace peace~
Dec 10, 2013 4:03 PM

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I bet there is a gigantic dildo and a colection of hardcore tentacle porn in Nadeko's closet.
Yeah Kaiki, my reaction would be the same...
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Dec 10, 2013 4:06 PM
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Senjougahara… crying… man… She is awesome.
Dec 10, 2013 6:27 PM

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I bet there is a gigantic dildo and a colection of hardcore tentacle porn in Nadeko's closet.
Yeah Kaiki, my reaction would be the same...
Goddamn...
Bitch, it's Nadeko. She will kill you. She's a god.
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Dec 10, 2013 7:04 PM

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Kaiki is so damn cool. I really like his theme too, it fits him well.
Dec 10, 2013 7:09 PM

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lol, dat fcking Opening Song XD
Dec 11, 2013 2:28 AM
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That opening fmv is amazing. The moment I saw it I thought, "Ah that's Kaiki for you."

For those who wasn't born in the 90's might find this funny or trollish but it's amazing how they correlated Kaiki's younger life, the current protagonist, and his old love, who is currently dead or...

Now, it's pretty much obvious that Kaiki has some attachment to Senjougahara due to her and his old love's same look. It's pretty much amazing how Kaiki refused to accept millions of money because of Senjougahara crying or somewhere along those lines.

I honestly think that Kaiki, an antihero, is a better protagonist than Araragi, characterwise.

I'm actually a little sad that it's going to end on the next episode. I wish there would be a next season - Araragi and Ononoki monotagari's.
Dec 11, 2013 2:38 AM

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Three more episodes! Not done yet! Then Hanamonogatari soon and Final Season if Nisioisin ever finishes it. And Kizumonogatari movie... some year... Lots more to come! Cannot wait! Did I use enough exclamation marks?
hpulleyDec 11, 2013 4:42 AM
Dec 11, 2013 4:29 AM

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The OP was fcking great. Nice, how the OP is presented in two different visual styles (80's retro style and Monogatari's up-to-date one) because both of the characters grew up in different decades. Well done, Shaft.

And damn, how I "hnnnngg"-ed to death when Hitagi thanked Kaiki after crying in the bathroom. It's nice to see such a vulnerable and sensitive side of her. Too cute.


Okay, so 3 episodes are left. The first 3 episodes covered 25 chapters of the Koimonogatari novel (<- which is 39 chapters long by the way). So 14 chapters left. Not sure, but I think that 2 episodes would be enough to cover the remaining chapters. So will episode 26 be some kind of a special?
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Awesome OP, totally :D visually at least.

That. Goddamn. Cliffhanger. Things are soooo very interesting.
Dec 11, 2013 7:27 AM

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It's the way Nisioisin writes. Lots of lead up before a big payoff at the end so the number of pages per episode is often quite inconsistent and often blasts through the intro and then takes its time for the ending. They can take a single battle chapter, which is usually at the end, and animate it for an entire episode or they can take Hanekawa's letter chapter and boil it down to a few minutes of nothing when in reality it is 44 minutes of audio when they put it on the disc as a bonus. The series composition director really has to pick and choose.

So far this season I have been able to predict the ending chapter of each episode quite easily. In many respects it isn't how many chapters or pages they cover, it is how many major events they can cover. They want to end it at a good spot. Machine Doll does the same thing while Golden Time juggles everything... just depends how they want to do it.

Honestly there was enough material for all 5 arcs to have been 6 episodes. They will just be skipping less in Koimonogatari if they do it in 6.

But I guess we'll know after episode 5 ends.
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