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Jul 25, 2015 10:44 PM

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i think adlet is the fake one consider him the weakest of em' all but he has a smart wit so yeah... 4/5 for this episode.

man the animation is derpy in some part
Jul 25, 2015 10:51 PM

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I have my money on two scenarios.

First, there's an exception/irregularity to the system, so instead of 6, now there's 7.

The other... One of the seals has been split into two "Braves". So really, there's supposed to be 6 seals, but one of them is being shared by two people.

But eh, if one of them is a fake, how can they march into the cursed land? The seal's supposed to protect them or something.
Now, is there going to be a Mexican standoff next episode over who's the "fake"? Can't wait!
Jul 25, 2015 11:05 PM

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aLotQuestion said:
by the way, why did the princess said she is a "mistress of barrier"?

In the novels it's clear she tries random magic words which might be the key to controlling the barrier. Once she's the mistress of the barrier, she can turn if off, right?

The spinning made me dizzy too. Maybe they should've made the spinning a bit slower?
Jul 25, 2015 11:36 PM

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CookingPriest said:
She is a puppet figurehead too. That's the implication.
Her father because he is a "king". Her because she is a saint. I mean in Ep2 She pretty much explained that they are kept alive to keep status quo
It explains why she literally escaped from there with Adlet


Well she could say that just to keep innocent cover, especially after she attacked Adlet (after watching how she reacted in barrier temple it doesn't look so innocent).
She's good friends with Goldof (one-sided love), Adlet also blushed a few times.
Probably most of Braves wouldn't call her fake.
Jul 25, 2015 11:39 PM

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Now this is where the true fun begins... i hope it isn't Chamo, though her powers are a little disgusting.




Jul 25, 2015 11:48 PM

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if this show need a good plot twist Fremy and Adlet need to be out of suspicious without question
Jul 26, 2015 12:45 AM

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I think the Princess. Because she doesn't have bunny ears in the first episode.

Jul 26, 2015 12:55 AM

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Well that episode felt quite messy, fumbling to introduce the rest of the cast. Oh well, at least now the real meat of the story can start.
Jul 26, 2015 1:21 AM

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Well derpy animation for the first few minutes aside,the tension was palpable in this episode.So they have to stick together until they found the fake."keep your fiends close and your enemies closer"-good technical use of the phrase.
Jul 26, 2015 1:35 AM

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What if the main MC Adlet Mayer is the fake? that would be something major :O
All credit goes to Sacred.
Jul 26, 2015 1:49 AM
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FireEmblemIke24 said:
What if the main MC Adlet Mayer is the fake? that would be something major :O


Well,there might have been lie in the narration,who knows.
There were such in mystery genre.
Jul 26, 2015 2:22 AM

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And so comes the moment we've all been waiting for. They built up to it really well, and now I'm really interested to find out who the fake is. So far I don't trust Hans or Goldov, and something seems off about Maura as well. Let the paranoia and guessing games begin!
Jul 26, 2015 2:35 AM

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Did the animation look worse to any1 else ? Because it did to me .

Aside from the drop in animation quality it was nice to finally see the seven of them come together i mean were 1/3 of the way into the show.

Overall great episode for me

8.5/10
Jul 26, 2015 2:45 AM

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That was unexpected, such a cliffhanger... I need to know who it is! >.<
Jul 26, 2015 3:18 AM

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The good pacing of the adaption continues. The sequence at the end with the camera spinning was really well done.
Some very obvious animation flaws this episode. Reminds me of watching Chaika all over again.....
But I'll forgive since waifu Mora is fucking beautiful.


Also I wish the light novel readers would stfu with the spoilers already. Yes we get it you read the source material, stop spoiling the story of a fucking mystery anime.
I read the ln as well and I can shut up about it and so can you.
Jul 26, 2015 3:26 AM

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Animation got a drop this time, I was especially disappointed as the face that didn't look correct a lot of time when the camera was close, whereas until now they didn't mess that.

Also, adaptation wise, for the first time, Passione is doing blunder. I can count 4 things here that should be different. One can be corrected later, but the 3 others are seriously problematic for scenes coming further on in the anime. Passione, don't screw up now, you've done a good job until now. I hope they can deal with their own mistakes later on so that it doesn't ends up being inconsistent.

They really overdid it with the spinning at the end. Some peoples I saw are vastly exaggerating about how bad it is , talking about motion sickness and all, but that was still overdoing it. It's a minor problem really, but I would have prefered they don't overdo it like that.

Overall, even though it's a very important episode plot wise, the overall quality of everything dropped this time. Let's hope it's just this week and that they will manage to correct the problem that are rising from it.

The new ending looks nice. It's sang by Nashetania's seiyuu so obviously Nashetania is the focus of this one There should be one more ending (already announced BTW) with Fremy's seiyuu singing, so I suppose the third ending will be showing mainly Fremy.
Jul 26, 2015 3:47 AM

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Mora Chester, Saint of Mountains indeed ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jul 26, 2015 4:04 AM
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My guess is that Goldov or Mura is the fake - Pure speculation
Jul 26, 2015 4:06 AM

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If it wasn't for the last scene this episode was really BAD with the CG
Jul 26, 2015 4:31 AM
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If we didn't see Adlet get his mark, I would've been suspicious of him. Fremy is out of the question because she killed Braves in the past, which means she's worthy of the mark. Also, she would have no reason to pretend to be a Brave since her intent was being alone from the start. Without knowledge of the other Braves, I can't suspect anyone except the princess.
Jul 26, 2015 4:58 AM
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My prediction: At least one of them is from some manner of exceptionally long-lived species or was frozen or... and is a holdover from 500 years ago or whatever, the last time the demon king became awakened.

Flamie made some comments about "People of your generation" in the last episode and so on and so forth, and nobody knows who the hell Adlet is. He just appeared out of thin air and started doing things.

Either of them could conceivably be a past brave who has come back to kick ass/take names. It would also explain Flamie's brave-killing if something happened like "I sprained my finger last time I fought him and so my super-ultra-shot missed his heart by half an inch and I need to know if I could have killed him for good"

As far as whether crests disappear after the battle, or whether they'd even retain any of their powers from the last time they fought the demon king, I have no idea.

It's also possible that the goddess of fate decided to tattoo one of the warriors because s/he was strong enough to fight even without the Knight of the Single Flower's blessing, so figured that she'd stack the deck in the yuushas' favor by giving that person the mark, but not the blessing.

After all, there was already ONE super-powerful legendary hero many many years ago. And what happens once is bound to happen again.
Jul 26, 2015 6:37 AM

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Ouuuu, most intense episode yet; love it.

Am I the only one shipping Goldov and Nashetania together? The ending scene for the ED made me want them to be together even more. That being said, that sequence makes me think that either Goldov or Adlet is the "fake" or at least the two are an important piece to Nashetania's life (since she did cry in that sequence after it showed the two side by side with a knife/her wand between them).

More fighting scenes are always good, we got to see the four of them team up too (surprising that Fremy didn't take long to adjust, though).

The whole gang is here! And they suspect a fake. We're finally up to the part that the synopsis has already told us was going to happen. Now we wait for them to suspect Adlet and then everything will be new.

As always, can't wait for the next episode; this episode has me pumped.


You're not alone...was shipping for Adlet x Nashetania at first, but when Godolf's character was introduced..immediately boarded a hip with him and Nashetania..Sadly, seems like she is into Adlet and sees Godolf as a reliable person/guard..-.-

The ending song was cute with the three of them in it...
Jul 26, 2015 6:39 AM

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Well, we didn't see how the others got their marks, maybe an angel comes from the sky and tatooed them unlike Adlet which just appear suddenly.

Jul 26, 2015 7:16 AM

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Brilliant episode! I loved it. The characters, the writing, they all topnotch! The real plot has finally begun and I can't wait to see what happens next.
Jul 26, 2015 7:18 AM
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Tense stuff at the end. I wonder who the fake is? The guy at the end would be too obvious so I'm expecting a twist. About the only thing I didn't like was having the random loli design. It seems you cannot have a series nowadays without that bone thrown to a certain demographic.

I loved the design of the temple. This time it reminded more of some Mayan designs that the ones in episode 1 that are more Aztec in appearance.
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Jul 26, 2015 7:19 AM

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Zefyris said:
Also, adaptation wise, for the first time, Passione is doing blunder. I can count 4 things here that should be different. One can be corrected later, but the 3 others are seriously problematic for scenes coming further on in the anime. Passione, don't screw up now, you've done a good job until now. I hope they can deal with their own mistakes later on so that it doesn't ends up being inconsistent.


Really? What were those 4 stuff? I'm an LN reader but I didn't notice anything major ^^;
Jul 26, 2015 7:19 AM

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I think the Princess. Because she doesn't have bunny ears in the first episode.

Its nothing more than a decoration headwear to signify her high standing -__-
We have seen her wear that headwear during the tournament too.
Jul 26, 2015 7:21 AM

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Things are starting to get interesting!
Jul 26, 2015 7:22 AM

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Well... well well well...... There were some major events throughout, but first I must admit that I'm really surprised that Fremy even decided to follow the other Rokkas after they tried so hard to slice her head off. As much as I saw Adlet's intervention calm Nashitania and subsequently Goldov off, I don't see any reason why Fremy would trust this idiot of a man who met up with Nashitania before meeting up with herself. Shouldn't she be even more suspicious that it was all a trap set by the three of them to lull her into a sense of false security before they took her down? If it were up to me, I would have just ran off and told the others not to bother one another.....

Even after her revelation, Fremy still feels the most "innocent" in my books (regarding the quest at least). I mean, what sort of an antagonist would you be if you put a target on your head from the beginning? She just openly admitted to offing potential Braves-candidates. Although I don't condone murder, I'm wondering if there is a distinct reason why she wants to weaken the group dealing with the Demon Lord (like to get herself into the team?). There's also the possibility that not all Rokkas are nice people, and she may have had a bone to pick with the ones she killed off.

Considering how Fremy herself was chosen as one, I'm assuming the criteria for being elected is more of a combined assessment of both your desire to kill off the Demon Lord AND your actual ability to do so? So it doesn't necessarily mean you have to be a good, noble person, right?

Adlet being split off from the group (without even showing him killing anything like the others were), got my suspicion meter running again. It seemed way too convenient that he was able to run off to the other temple without anyone following him. Of course, you would probably point out that it was all a trap to trick him to open up the temple door and hence to make it seem like he was framed in activating the barrier, ergo him being innocent... but I still have my doubts regarding him. He reverted back to his "Gung-Ho" personality when the other Rokka's appeared, so I have an issue with trusting him at the moment (even if he's the one providing most of the narrative). Could be because of my previous experience with Heavy Rain (that delusional detective's route), I'm of the opinion that those who hide their cards in front of people he should be trusting may not be that trustworthy themselves.

Of course, the most obvious scene of destruction of evidence has to go to Nashitania when she was swinging that sword around like a madwoman. Clearly saw at least two items being destroyed/displaced during that scene, and considering we don't know where she'd been in the 12 hour period between splitting and meeting up with Adlet, the entire showcase makes her suspect.
Also, Nashitania's motion in stopping Chamo's hand indicates that she knows her, or at least how she attacks people, so it may have shown her to be "good" in trying to save Fremy from being killed, but then again considering how calm she was in doing so (as opposed to her panic attack immediately before that) it could also be interpreted as preventing things from starting too soon, like "the time isn't right yet".

I was previously ruling out Goldov's involvement with her possible "ulterior motive" (as speculated last episode), but given they'd been together in the 12 hour time frame, I'm not so sure anymore.... though he could still be working under her orders without knowing or questioning what purpose his actions were for (hence making him half-innocent). The images shown in the ED also give credence to what I mentioned of his character previously. It seems like he was taken in by the Nashetania's Royal family at a young age to work for them, and subsequently internally swore his eternal loyalty to this Whimsical princess that he's so enamored with. I can already feel the tension between him and Adlet already.

Then there's the other three Rokkas who appeared at the end of the scene. My first impression of Chamo and Mora gives off the impression of an out-of-control brat and her mother (or at least the only one who can control her). Am only speculating here, but I get the feeling Chamo isn't very smart, and hence can be manipulated by someone (that being Mora). That said, Mora only introduced herself and spoke a few lines, but her immediate reaction of shutting up Chamo seemed a tad suspicious. Still, seeing as there wasn't enough time to showcase her full character, I'll leave judgment of her till next episode.

Same goes for Hans, I guess, except for the fact that his flamboyant, maniac laugh already gives off a bad impression for him. Either he's an honest crazy pervert, or he's a dishonest crazy pervert, I'll decide next episode.

And like I mentioned last episode: SEE?!?! IF we hadn't already known about the magnificent 7 from the synopsis, this ending would have totally been a hype-able cliffhanger. But since we'd already been spoiled from the get-go, it all just feels so matter-of-fact now...

Enjoying this show a whole lot, but yeah.. just a little peeved about the above.

Oh, and sorry for the long analysis, just had to write out everything on my mind somehow.
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Jul 26, 2015 7:37 AM

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you spin me right round baby right round.....


here is the problem with the end of the episode. anyone who can count already knew there would be seven, so the whole scene had pretty much no impact on me as a viewer, but i assume that is just the problem of the adaptation. cover, opening etc. in the novel it probably actually was a surprise


good episode, i really like the sense of journey the series has.

wonder who will be the fake if there even is a fake
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...intense episode their finally complete expecting epic fight next episode

...I'm curious how Adlet will deal when they think he's the traitor

...BTW the opening and ending song single is already out !!!
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Enjoyed the episode.
Waifu Mora finally appeared!
Nashetania losing her cool like that and flailing around was relatively annoying. Oh well. Adlet's not as annoying as he was when I started watching the show, so points to that.
Looking forward to next week.
Jul 26, 2015 7:59 AM

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Wtf Piena.. you should know better than to flail around with a sword ヾ(ーー )
Hmm so all the marks looks identical, i wonder who's the fake :o
Jul 26, 2015 8:10 AM

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I love the new ed song.

Jul 26, 2015 8:14 AM

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This series is one of my favorite series of the season, but one thing really bothers me.

Can someone just make Adlet shut up about how he's the strongest man on earth?
Jul 26, 2015 8:20 AM
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man
the lack of budget is so fucking sad considering everything that isn't animation is 10/10 in this anime

except maybe OST
well, i'm still enjoying it so it's fine
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Jul 26, 2015 8:23 AM
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zannet_t said:
This series is one of my favorite series of the season, but one thing really bothers me.

Can someone just make Adlet shut up about how he's the strongest man on earth?


noooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Jul 26, 2015 8:32 AM

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PornSymphony said:
i think adlet is the fake one consider him the weakest of em' all but he has a smart wit so yeah... 4/5 for this episode.

man the animation is derpy in some part
Yeah, he's the impostor. That's why we saw him clear as day get branded by magic, while trapped inside the hole, acting surprised and sweating. He knows we are watching him and it was all part of an elaborate ruse to trick us.
Jul 26, 2015 8:43 AM

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The part at the end when they were wondering who the fake was, was really making me dizzy...

Oh also quite surprised how that princess weirdly lost her cool like that... also broke something...
Jul 26, 2015 8:53 AM

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Gersen said:
PornSymphony said:
i think adlet is the fake one consider him the weakest of em' all but he has a smart wit so yeah... 4/5 for this episode.

man the animation is derpy in some part
Yeah, he's the impostor. That's why we saw him clear as day get branded by magic, while trapped inside the hole, acting surprised and sweating. He knows we are watching him and it was all part of an elaborate ruse to trick us.


We never seen anyone else get the mark so we do not know if it was normal proccess with him or if it was Demon God saying Hi. There is also the fact that he seems to be switching between uber-srs schemer when alone and goofy aloof idiot when others are near.
Jul 26, 2015 9:01 AM
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The animation sucks but the story is gold!
Jul 26, 2015 9:04 AM

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okay so lots of us noticed the lack of animation quality this episode lol...

Nice laugh(?) by suzumura kenichi there.

as much as I want to find out who the fake one is right now, I also don't want to find out and wait till I get it from the anime itself.
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Jul 26, 2015 9:09 AM
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I haven't read any of the visual novels so I'm not going to add any spoiler tags in here.

My theory is that Adlet is unknowingly setup to be on the Demon God's side at the climax. Just going off the fact that everything about his design has a sort of non-heroic tone to it.

His hair is red, his eyes are a reddish orange hue (both typically the color of blood/evil/satanist characters).

His fighting style is "dishonest," another indicator of the influence of evil.

I think his desire to defeat the Demon God is genuine and all of his actions are genuine.

BUT I think there's some kind of "born of the Demon God" or "under the Demon God's subliminal influence" thing going on here that will turn him against everyone temporarily until he is able to break the Demon God's control.

Just my theory, could be totally wrong. I have no idea if the novels are finished or if any of the mysteries have been unraveled.

TL;DR: MY THEORY IS THAT ADLET IS UNKNOWINGLY EVIL


I agree.
Jul 26, 2015 9:13 AM
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Here is my opinion of this episode.

It is nice to to all the Saints finally come together. Now we can all start guessing and speculating who is the traitor in disguise. Both Hans and Chamot are bloody awesome. The fight scene in this episode is quite intense, one of the best fight scenes, if not the best one so far this season. The music is also great. The new ending makes me wonder if we are going to have more different ones for the rest of the Saints.

There are quite a few problems here which I feel I cannot ignore. First is the animation. It is good overall, but there are some moments where it seems the animators just got tired of editing.

Sweet Jesus. Goldov has succumbed to the foul derp.



There was also that one scene where the camera goes in circle. It makes me feel dizzy. Two rounds are enough, four is too many. Besides, it was mostly Hans and Adlet talking, so that was definitely uncalled for.

The final verdict is 8 out of 10. It's a nice episode. Let's pray for a mind-blowing revelation.
Jul 26, 2015 9:19 AM
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Adlet is not the fake. That'd be terribly cliche (though I wouldn't mind it), we saw him get branded because Rule of Cool, it might be the same way for all other Rokka; I mean it looked like flower roots after all but it could be tentacles too.

My money's on Goldov or Moira, everyone else has something that makes them too obvious IMO (Goldov might have but well....)
Jul 26, 2015 9:23 AM

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zannet_t said:

Can someone just make Adlet shut up about how he's the strongest man on earth?

No.
Well, maybe the revived Majin can. But only by killing Adlet.

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That said, Mora only introduced herself and spoke a few lines, but her immediate reaction of shutting up Chamo seemed a tad suspicious.

Everybody who knows Chamo (Mora and Nashetania) seems to take stopping Chamo as a first priority. Maybe it's because she's the kind of person who suggests murder as a solution to every situation?
Jul 26, 2015 9:28 AM

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Gersen said:
Yeah, he's the impostor. That's why we saw him clear as day get branded by magic, while trapped inside the hole, acting surprised and sweating. He knows we are watching him and it was all part of an elaborate ruse to trick us.


We never seen anyone else get the mark so we do not know if it was normal proccess with him or if it was Demon God saying Hi. There is also the fact that he seems to be switching between uber-srs schemer when alone and goofy aloof idiot when others are near.

We've seen everything from his eyes. We've heard him talk to himself when he's alone. I don't know what more do you expect him to do when he's alone to show him as a goof. Have an imaginary friend? He was lighthearted enough while he was alone in a cell for what looked like weeks, and he didn't recognize the princess when she first visited him, a girl who later keeps tricking him while being flirtatious, showing him as the inexperienced teenager that he is.

The only way he could be a fake is if he himself doesn't know it, but that would be really pointless.
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Gersen said:
CookingPriest said:


We never seen anyone else get the mark so we do not know if it was normal proccess with him or if it was Demon God saying Hi. There is also the fact that he seems to be switching between uber-srs schemer when alone and goofy aloof idiot when others are near.

We've seen everything from his eyes. We've heard him talk to himself when he's alone. I don't know what more do you expect him to do when he's alone to show him as a goof. Have an imaginary friend? He was lighthearted enough while he was alone in a cell for what looked like weeks, and he didn't recognize the princess when she first visited him, a girl who later keeps tricking him while being flirtatious, showing him as the inexperienced teenager that he is.

The only way he could be a fake is if he himself doesn't know it, but that would be really pointless.


What we hear of him talking to himself is ambiguous enough. Even his reaction to the idea of the fake in the end is ambiguous enough.
He did not recognize the princess at first but he figured it out when he found the sword.
And sure he seems innocent one moment and then he manipulates Fremy into traveling together by pretending to completely trust her(while he is monitoring her moves with a mirror)
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It was fun, the last minutes were well done, but unfortunately the declining animation quality reminds me of Seraph last season, which is not particularly a good sign. I really hope this doesn't descend into that kind of quality.
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Great episode all the Braves met and one is a fake. Man I wonder who it is... When that girl turned into a fiend, that wasn't expected at all. Now they basicly made him open up the temple. It probably went to warn the others.

Now what happened to the bombing? Hmm
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