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Paulo27 said: Why would that be an insult? It's obviously Madoka inspired, but it's not as heavy as Madoka, therefore it's "lite". It's "heavy" in a different way imo, (not necessarily visually or in terms of mood etc) so I can't agree with that. Not to mention the show hasn't even finished airing yet. I suppose though a lot of people would think the same way you do, so this series will forever be woefully underrated because people see comments like "Madoka clone/copy/lite" and think "Nah. Inferior trash copy of another anime, not worth watching." |
| When Yuna says that we won't have to lose any more, it reminded me of when Tatsumi tells Akame in Akame ga Kill "We won't lose anymore precious things." at a certain emotional point later in the show. Nevertheless, both instances brought on the Waterworks. Great episode, this show has differentiated itself from Madoka. This is not a Madoka clone, it's something entirely different. 10/10 |
ramenshojo said: [ I don't buy it. The idea of fighting itself is already a massive red flag for anyone with common sense. I don't know if you've ever been in a fight before, but it's bloody dangerous even between humans, nevermind some unknown monster thing from another dimension. I'm sure there would have been another way around it had she thought it through properly. Fighting itself is only a red flag for injury and death via fighting. Losing her voice and her dream would never come to someones mind when the choice is to fight. When someone plays a high impact sport they are prepared to get injured but not lose their sense of taste or voice, especially when its completely unrelated with what they're doing. In its own way, letting Itsuki fight has caused Itsuki's self confidence to grow and to step out of her sister's shadow and stand beside her. Even now, Itsuki isn't angry at her sister or upset. Either way Itsuki would have joined the fight. |
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ramenshojo said: Paulo27 said: Why would that be an insult? It's obviously Madoka inspired, but it's not as heavy as Madoka, therefore it's "lite". It's "heavy" in a different way imo, (not necessarily visually or in terms of mood etc) so I can't agree with that. Not to mention the show hasn't even finished airing yet. I suppose though a lot of people would think the same way you do, so this series will forever be woefully underrated because people see comments like "Madoka clone/copy/lite" and think "Nah. Inferior trash copy of another anime, not worth watching." A rip-off doesn't always mean it's bad, if anything it's a good thing because Madoka was really good so shows that have the same themes and plot should also be pretty decent unless they really mess up. And by "not as heavy" I simply mean it's not so dark, sure there's some despair and destroying little girls' hopes and dreams isn't nice but it's not like Madoka that killed characters or drove them insane. Even if this show does kill off someone I still wouldn't consider it as heavy as Madoka, not to mention Madoka barely had any SoL, and it wasn't a part of the show you probably even remember. They are different but the similarities are there and it's pretty hard not to notice. If you want another example, while not the best one but the first one I can think off, Fate/stay night is very much a lite version of Fate/Zero, it's basically the same thing but F/SN is a lot more calm, as where F/Z is a lot more dark, more mature if you will. |
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| So, no one who's a Hero can die? Sweet! But....they are sacrificing there bodies to save the world......not sweet..... Damn, nearly cried during this episode...... Poor Itsuki, having to be forced to not speak anymore, making her dream of being a singer.......gone forever.... Well......forever? Will the girls ever be cured? :( |
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| It IS heavier than the Madoka sufferings, what you get in Madoka? Death, NTR (not actually), and more death. On paper death is heavier than any others for sure, but it's only for shock value and chracters does not react enough to it, so it becomes too unreal that I cannot feel any sympathy in the end. Plus, Yuyuyu is more like Eva, if anything. Madoka is not the inventor of dark anime. |
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| How the hell is this anime rate so low?! Just so many fells.. =l |
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ramenshojo said: Takei_Hisa said: I think the thing with this is, she didn't fully realize the danger she was putting all of them though. Sure it includes fighting, but the Taisha probably kept all the the dangerous things secret. And also, seeing as how attached Itsuki is to her sister, even if Fu told her no, I think she still would've joined the club anyways. It'd look suspicious otherwise. I don't buy it. The idea of fighting itself is already a massive red flag for anyone with common sense. I don't know if you've ever been in a fight before, but it's bloody dangerous even between humans, nevermind some unknown monster thing from another dimension. I'm sure there would have been another way around it had she thought it through properly. And er.. just wanna say that your MAL name is pretty awesome ;-) well, I can see your point... I still think from Fu's perspective, it probably wasn't this kind of fighting that would be taking place. Maybe I forgot but, I don't even think Fu was completely informed as to what they would be fighting against or what their true role was. idk. And thanks :) I love my MAL username too *w* |
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Paulo27 said: And by "not as heavy" I simply mean it's not so dark, sure there's some despair and destroying little girls' hopes and dreams isn't nice but it's not like Madoka that killed characters or drove them insane. Even if this show does kill off someone I still wouldn't consider it as heavy as Madoka, not to mention Madoka barely had any SoL, and it wasn't a part of the show you probably even remember. They are different but the similarities are there and it's pretty hard not to notice. The frequent Madoka comparisons aren't surprising to me, because that was the last major "reference point" anime for this type of serious magical girl series, so it's also the freshest one on people's minds. And while comparing it to Madoka is perfectly valid, as I alluded to in my review I also see plenty of comparisons that I could make between Yuki Yuna and the Lyrical Nanoha franchise. That shouldn't be a surprise either because Nanoha itself was a "reference point" franchise that influenced Madoka. And both of them in turn owe a debt to Revolutionary Girl Utena, which might have done more than any other show before Madoka to push the magical girl genre into darker and more adult-themed territory. What we're seeing with Yuki Yuna is a show that's trying to come to terms with the post-Madoka fallout and its impact on the magical girl genre, while still finding its own voice and telling its own story. And for the most part, I think it's handled that rather well. Especially with these last two episodes, I think it's finally becoming clear the direction that this show wants to go, and that direction is thematically very different from Madoka, even if some of the superficial trappings are similar. The girls in Yuki Yuna didn't seek power for pride or personal gain, like so many of the girls in Madoka - they sought power in order to protect their homes and loved ones from harm, and the price they're paying is one that many heroes have had to pay in the real world too, in order to uphold the ideals that they defend. That doesn't make it any less sad, but it's a sadness that comes from a different place. |
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| Wow, just.. wow. That was very say, some tears were shed. I'm really worried about what will happen to Karin, I have the feeling she's going to be hurt badly somehow.. |
Paulo27 said: ...If you want another example, while not the best one but the first one I can think off, Fate/stay night is very much a lite version of Fate/Zero, it's basically the same thing but F/SN is a lot more calm, as where F/Z is a lot more dark, more mature if you will. I do get where you're coming from, but I guess I just wouldn't use some phrases you do like "lite" or "rip-off". The underlying themes differ too much for me to measure them by how much or what type of death and suffering there is. On the other hand I can wholeheartedly agree with you on the Fate thing. Not really enjoying Fate SN Unlimited Blade works. It's been interesting reading everyones thoughts on this show which, in my opinion delivers emotionally and thoughtfully. In case some of you didn't know, there's another "Madoka inspired" anime airing this season and while it's not about magical girls you can still pretty much tell. The first part is titled 'Selector Infected Wixoss', and the second 'Selector Spread Wixoss'. Both seasons are slow starters but it's way worth the watch. |
ramenshojo said: Paulo27 said: ...If you want another example, while not the best one but the first one I can think off, Fate/stay night is very much a lite version of Fate/Zero, it's basically the same thing but F/SN is a lot more calm, as where F/Z is a lot more dark, more mature if you will. I do get where you're coming from, but I guess I just wouldn't use some phrases you do like "lite" or "rip-off". The underlying themes differ too much for me to measure them by how much or what type of death and suffering there is. On the other hand I can wholeheartedly agree with you on the Fate thing. Not really enjoying Fate SN Unlimited Blade works. It's been interesting reading everyones thoughts on this show which, in my opinion delivers emotionally and thoughtfully. In case some of you didn't know, there's another "Madoka inspired" anime airing this season and while it's not about magical girls you can still pretty much tell. The first part is titled 'Selector Infected Wixoss', and the second 'Selector Spread Wixoss'. Both seasons are slow starters but it's way worth the watch. Yep, I'm watching that, just a bit behind on S2. Also, for those interested, OST is out. |
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RLinksoul said: WingKing said: The frequent Madoka comparisons aren't surprising to me, because that was the last major "reference point" anime for this type of serious magical girl series, so it's also the freshest one on people's minds. This show was destined for Madoka comparisons the second the PV was released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCb_GyEVOJg - Look at Madoka's PV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ptJgTU1aA - And Yuuki Yuuna's. Cute and colorful with nothing but the main character's official art and their voice. And now Yuuki Yuuna is pulling the "Dark plot twists/powers at a price/sacrificing the main characters" thing. One's written by a healing writer, the other is a slice of life anime. Who the hell are you calling a healing writer? |
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RLinksoul said: Paulo27 said: Who the hell are you calling a healing writer? Gen Urobuchi. He claimed that Madoka Magica was going to be his attempt at being a healing writer. We all know how that went. Now Yuuki Yuuna is claiming to be a slice of life anime, and it's turned into more of a magical girl warrior dark and edgy thing. Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that, was wondering because Takahiro is certainly no healing writer. |
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| All the feels. Itsuki got a dream and now...god. Crap.. |
| I don't think you guys are getting it. To me I really feel like Tougo believed what the Kami Hero Sonoko said when she claimed that Hero's cannot die. I mean, why else would Sonoko still be there in another dimension, paralyzed, with the Taisha all around her, calling Tougo and Yuki informing them that they will end up just like her and there is nothing that they can do to stop it? I think that Tougo believed it, but went through stages of depression and tried to kill herself, which therefore making her realize that her Faeries protect her from death, further confirming what Sonoko said about them not being able to die. I doubt Tougo was experimenting because the first time she committed suicide should have been the final indicator as to whether Sonoko was telling the truth about their "immortality". At the most, 2 more tries to end her life would have been experimenting. I suspect the other times Tougo tried to commit suicide was her being desperate to end her life, going to drastic measures like using Carbon Monoxide and Burning herself. I think that although they showed Fu to be the one to break down, Tougo may already be more broken than her. |
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| The heaven's feels were too much for me to bear. |
| damn, this episode hurt ;_;" |
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| Damn Feels episode!!! V_V 5/5 time to increase Yuuki Yuuna rating now |
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| Ohh the despair. Fairies not there to protect them but to ensure they don't commit suicide. I feel the "heroes" become "vertex" after Mankai-ing too much. Also such raw emotions from Fuu's seiyuu,perfect. |
| Sad episode, really, I had to hold my tears, it was really emotional...seems what happy mahou animes are a rare thing now =/ |
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bittersweetlove said: Sad episode, really, I had to hold my tears, it was really emotional...seems what happy mahou animes are a rare thing now =/ Not really, you can still find those with all-ages ratings, but they were kind of silly now. What becomes rare is comedy-ecchi mahou shoujo cliche. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| Wow, i didn't expect this... |
| damn, I love anime breakdowns and this one was one of the best, so much feels |
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| Episode very melancholy, even skepticism and optimism or pretended to believe in goodness shown by Fuu, is beautifully pulverized by the pain of reality. Narratively has almost stopped the flow of history to expose in a complete and sublime the pain experienced by Fuu in having erased the hopes and dreams of his sister Itsuki. To all this is added a soundtrack and very beautiful designs. This fall season in 2014, is full of interesting TV series but underrated. |
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| Wow. Is it anime's job to make me feel empty inside? That's all the autumn season seems to be doing to me lately. But what moves me the most about all of this is how characters such as Yuna & Itsuki maintain optimism in the face of this cruel sacrifice. Just trying to imagine their pain, I would've joined in Fuu's insanity long ago. The realization of forever losing the simple things. |
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| Damn another melodramatic episode :/ that ending though... |
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| I DID NOT FUCKING SIGN UP FOR THIS!!! |
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| What an emotional episode TT_TT |
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| FFFast It got me at the end. Itsuki should still be able to at least whisper though. Fuu was flippin out, I like it! We need more of that. |
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| FFF late as usual. I thought this episode was too quiet and boring/sleepy but it's just on the first part. This episode made quite a lot of impact on the last part. I'm thinking that Fuu-sempai cannot handle all the emotional pain anymore and will decide to go all out beyond her limits just to save the 4 of Hero club, in doing so, sacrificing herself. |
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| I cringed. A lot. From the moment Itsuki started talking on the tape for her audition it was pretty obvious they made everything just for the effect. It's not like she would speak those words for someone in auditioning comitee, they made it like it was intended for her sister and made it with only one purpose - to sqeeze emotions from viewers. But it didn't work quite well. Everything after that was obvious build-up for susequent overmelodramatic crying in the end, and as such it had no impact on me at all. We knew this since last episode and I found Fuu's vehement denial of this fact really pointless from point of the viewer. The only interesting thing this time was that they can't die but it's hard for me to believe that Tougou would try to commit suicide several times just to find this out. |
| I did not sign up for this, but I'll continue watching this anyway. |
| The FEELS is getting stronger |
| I'm actually kind of upset at the 4 girls for trying to stop Fuu. The Taisha don't have hero powers, Fuu easily could've exacted revenge for Taisha being a bunch of dirty fucking liars. Kind of find it fucking ridiculous that the Divine Tree needs sacrifices too. Oh, if you want to use gods power (temporarily), then you need to sacrifice a part of your body. I mean, don't worry, the heroes aren't fucking saving the entire world or anything, and the divine tree doesn't hold the power of existence at all, so it's a much needed sacrifice /scarcasm. Ultimate fuck you to the Taisha and tree...just let the goddamn world end. Fuck it, YOLO!!!!!!!!! |
| God damn! This anime was WAY more tragic and emotional than I had originally thought it was going to be.... |
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| This was the highlight, one exquisite episode. If only had they made the ending better... |
| Oh, fuck no. |
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