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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ooh I like that bit of aura they add they added this episode to bring out more tense moments in the match. Eijun also has that fierce look on him that I want to see more of. Tbh, I see their team have an interesting future with their current lineup. |
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| Damn that last part with sawamura hit the feels hard |
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| Damn, they couldn't get those two runs back. I feel bad for poor Eijun, but he will never give up! |
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| I guess they decided to recap the last episode because they wanted to end this episode where they did. I kinda expected Seido to lose but damn the feels at the end with Sawamura. :( Furuya and Masamune pitched like bosses, I got the chills everytime the OST kicked in when they were pitching. Great job Seido! We'll get em next time. |
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| I now want to see Hongo vs Raichi |
| They were equally matched, if it just weren't for those two runs.... The outcome of the match took me by surprise, but it was a great way to start things off(imo the first real match this season) Everyone did their best and especially the pitcher were amazing. I feel sorry for Sawamura, tho, it must've been incredibly frustrating. Summer can't come soon enough. @Mercuri Absolutely |
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| A predictable borefast. No hype from the start to the end of the tournament. Funeral atmosphere the whole game. |
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| Well I'm a bit sad that they wasted whole episode but... maybe it's because I read the manga so I knew what will happen. By the way scene with dirt from dugout was best one in whole episode and it shows us how much this series needs to keep focus around Sawamura. I think that because of this seasons begining the ratings may not be so good in comparison to previous seasons because then even if Eijun wasn't playing he was a big part of story so... I'm very happy that we are now after this not-so-good-Koshien and Seido will be back to training so we will get more scenes in school and dorms. For all those who are unhappy now about start of season... I can tell you from the bottom of my heart that you will be happy soon because Diamond no Ace will be back to it's best and it will get even better than S2 very, very soon. |
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| OMG, that ending scene. It hurts, but I know Sawamura will overcome it. He's amazing!! |
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| Imma just copy and paste my comment regarding the conclusion of the spring tournament from when I read the manga chapter. "That's it? That was end of spring Koushien??? There was no impact, no emotions...the loss at the end of summer tournament had way more impact than this. Although maybe it's because they never intended to win Koushien, but just wanted to get there...idk. Even Inashiro's flashback of losing at Koushien felt sadder. What was sad though was Eijun going to the bullpen of all places to get the dirt. I really want to cry for him. I hope this means that the next time they're here, Eijun won't be stuck in the bullpen again..." Some people replied to my comment that it's because Spring Koushien isn't as important, which is true, but still, they fought hard to get there. But in retrospect, I do think it's good that they lost here for the upcoming content. Anyways, I think this episode did really well with Eijun taking the dirt from the bullpen moment, it had more impact than when I read the manga, as I actually shed a few tears. The bgm made it really emotional. When I went back to find my comment, I saw that the chapter before it was titled "Bystander"...that makes me sad how that was all Eijun was in that game. |
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| I did my research, it seems that fastest recorded pitch was 169.1 km/h. Furuya hitting 154 speed is quite the achievement for someone his age imo. Understandable to see Sawamura shattered on the inside after seeing how his rival is doing his very best at the field. Can't wait to have more Sawamura Greatness! Go Sawamura Go! |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Geez that was a long recap yes, and the scored finished deadlock at 2-0. Great pitching from the two aces and a predictable episode, but a tense episode nonetheless. Sawamura has to start over from scratch once again. Gotta say, this show is relentless about throwing the loss of Seido in high profile matches and not creating an easy way for the main team to achieve the sweet fruit. I really hope the inevitable success is really, really sweet. I can't wait to see Yuki's little brother join Seido! |
F8L-Fool said: Ulquiorra said: Damn, they couldn't get those two runs back. That combined with how absolutely boring the game was overall made me really dislike this episode. It felt like one long flashback followed by some circlejerking over the pitching and then boom....game is over...WTF? Without a doubt the single most boring match I've ever seen in this series. For one that had so much on the line it is kind of embarrassing. There was never a single bit of tension or hype in this episode or the previous one. I really liked the previous two seasons but this one is shaping up to be absolute garbage. Hopefully they turn it around because I can't sit through 48 more episodes like this. Stay calm it's excacly like it was in manga. Look at this and smile. And oh... read it carefully. It's what you should think about Eijun grabbing dirt. I don't know how many chapters they will include in next episode but... be prepared because it will be a damn good episode.  |
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| This match played with my expectations, and it left me on the edge of my seat for a few moments, reminding me just how moving and exciting Daiya can be. But it ultimately felt like a "free sample" of what's to come. It's over, but as even the episode title makes clear, it's also only the beginning. I can only imagine Kuramochi's and Haruichi's frustration, and I can't measure Sawamura's mortification. But this isn't the end for them yet, and I believe they will rise again. Hongou was also really cool despite his fierce and aggressive aura, but I was sad and disappointed that he didn't shake hands with Furuya. Oh, I'm also happy I got a glimpse of Mei, and I can't wait to get to know the new freshmen. |
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| This episode disappointing to say the least. Eijun didn't even get a turn.. I'm sorry but who is the main character again? It feels like the audience it getting cucked as bad as the main character because that's who we actually want to root for. Fuck talented geniuses! We want the underdog to take the stage and blow ppl away. I get that this is build up for when they do finally win it's just that I feel like we already had enough at this point, literally he's been failing this entire time, yet to see the main character actually win. SMH |
| This was a great episode."The day it began". Finally Sawamura Eijun's legend will start I guess .Can't wait to see what happens next. |
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| For people who hate on this episode: Yes they lost. Yes Sawamura didn’t get to pitch. But this is what makes it realistic. They lose to the previous summer nationals champs who beat inashiro and I honestly can’t see Hokkaido losing to anyone else in the current Fall Nationals tourney. It’s also not realistic at all for Seido to win a championship their first time in nationals (in 7years), facing newer competition who already have nationals experience. Also sawamura not being put in is even more realistic. Just because he’s the MC doesn’t mean that he’s going to win the game, that’s not how reality works. In reality you pitch your best possible pitcher, which some may hate to admit is Furuya. We have to remember that baseball is a team sport and this show isn’t the “all about sawamura show”, it’s about BASEBALL! (Even though sawamura is my fav character lol) This episode/nationals mini arc was meant to give the characters more development (S/O to the end with sawamura) so that the series will be even more hype for when/if sawamura and seido make their comeback! |
am1llsApr 23, 2019 11:21 PM
| Look guys there are some pitchers in real life who can throw much faster than Furuya: Jordan Hicks, Aroldis Chapman, Neftali Feliz. But the fun thing is that they only throw sinkers, two-seams or four-seams. And with sinker yeah you got it right it drops like Masamune-kun one, because it's just the moment when ball was moving in one line and then it's start to losing speed and momentum so it sanks. With real life situations there is nice thing to mention about Hicks who had that awesome pitch power at age of 21. So... if we take that Furuya is 2nd year in high school which is like 16 years old then it's normal and nothing "fantastic" about his pitches. On the other hand Sawamura with his variations of pitches and "numbers" (you will learn more about them soon) have everything to be a better pitcher overall, more in Narumiya Mei style. I think some of you may realized it long time ago but for those who don't I hope now you know what to expect and why you should be patient. |
| The Young Noble of the Field is currently watching - Diamond no Ace: Act II Misugi-kun is also reading - Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
| Last part was emotional. I am hyped about next episode because my boi koushuu is coming. RIP miyuki. |
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Look guys there are some pitchers in real life who can throw much faster than Furuya Even in high schools? |
sannythebest95 said: Look guys there are some pitchers in real life who can throw much faster than Furuya Even in high schools?During the Premier Baseball Pro Day Showcase, Riley Pint, a senior at Saint Thomas Aquinas High School in Overland Park, Kansas, hurled a fastball 102 mph. And he's only 18 years old. 102 mph = 164km/h |
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thevagus said: Last part was emotional. I am hyped about next episode because my boi koushuu is coming. RIP miyuki. thevagus said: Last part was emotional. I am hyped about next episode because my boi koushuu is coming. RIP miyuki. Yeah :D #TeamWolfBoy Grrrr... :D |
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| Can anyone tell me when Furuya came to this level? When did it get such a development that it was almost on the same level as the Komadai? Since when has the stamina to pitched for nine innings? When did he learn to have this control? This is the main problem of this narrative arc. It just doesn't make the slightest sense that Furuya is at this level. I read the manga and I know how the story goes, the fact is that the Senbatsu tournament is the worst narrative arc of the manga (for me) |
Salvaju29roApr 24, 2019 3:51 AM
junmisugi said: Look guys there are some pitchers in real life who can throw much faster than Furuya: Jordan Hicks, Aroldis Chapman, Neftali Feliz. But the fun thing is that they only throw sinkers, two-seams or four-seams. And with sinker yeah you got it right it drops like Masamune-kun one, because it's just the moment when ball was moving in one line and then it's start to losing speed and momentum so it sanks. With real life situations there is nice thing to mention about Hicks who had that awesome pitch power at age of 21. So... if we take that Furuya is 2nd year in high school which is like 16 years old then it's normal and nothing "fantastic" about his pitches. On the other hand Sawamura with his variations of pitches and "numbers" (you will learn more about them soon) have everything to be a better pitcher overall, more in Narumiya Mei style. I think some of you may realized it long time ago but for those who don't I hope now you know what to expect and why you should be patient. excellent analysis all the pitchers you named are all closer,it is very difficult to take the timing measures in a single inning and therefore very effective in the short run,since the first season I thought of furuya as closer for its characteristics(fast launches and little movement,poor stamina),It is obvious that it is very difficult for high school boys to face pitches like this but it is almost unthinkable for professionals to do the starting pitcher with only a very effective fast ball.... on the other hand, Sawamura is a completely different type of launcher,it has many more launches even if it has less speed and he will make his variability and control his main weapons,for me he misses a breaking ball with a different effect than the changeup, a slider or a curveball to be complete(better a curveball to differentiate from furuya) to complete his arsenal,for a Toronto Blue Jays fan I see him as a little Ryan Borucki xD |
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junmisugi said: Wow .. it's crazysannythebest95 said: Even in high schools? During the Premier Baseball Pro Day Showcase, Riley Pint, a senior at Saint Thomas Aquinas High School in Overland Park, Kansas, hurled a fastball 102 mph. And he's only 18 years old. 102 mph = 164km/h But I guess such a launch is impossible to replicate many times in a match Right? |
sannythebest95 said: junmisugi said: Wow .. it's crazyDuring the Premier Baseball Pro Day Showcase, Riley Pint, a senior at Saint Thomas Aquinas High School in Overland Park, Kansas, hurled a fastball 102 mph. And he's only 18 years old. 102 mph = 164km/h But I guess such a launch is impossible to replicate many times in a match Right? Well yeah that's true. This is why they show use few times an pitch speed. They gave us 151 km/h on the deck and later 154. So basically even producers new they can't "count" each Furuyas/Masamunes pitch as "over" 150km/h. |
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Esteban19 said: excellent analysis all the pitchers you named are all closer,it is very difficult to take the timing measures in a single inning and therefore very effective in the short run,since the first season I thought of furuya as closer for its characteristics(fast launches and little movement,poor stamina),It is obvious that it is very difficult for high school boys to face pitches like this but it is almost unthinkable for professionals to do the starting pitcher with only a very effective fast ball.... on the other hand, Sawamura is a completely different type of launcher,it has many more launches even if it has less speed and he will make his variability and control his main weapons,for me he misses a breaking ball with a different effect than the changeup, a slider or a curveball to be complete(better a curveball to differentiate from furuya) to complete his arsenal,for a Toronto Blue Jays fan I see him as a little Ryan Borucki xD Thanks for your kind words. I think that Eijun is loosely based on this Eiji Sawamura real life pitcher -=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiji_Sawamura of course author of manga changed few things but even in Act II we will get some "international" spark ;) |
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| Pretty sure not a lot of people will resonate with me on this one but I feel like this game completely rendered Season 2 useless. We go through a huge 50 episodes season JUST to get to the Koshien Invitational and then get the sequel like 3 years later and guess what, team loses in the quarter finals just like that. Now we have to grind again to go to the same place. I don't think I've watched another sports series that felt so tedious. |
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Hatsuyuki said: Pretty sure not a lot of people will resonate with me on this one but I feel like this game completely rendered Season 2 useless. We go through a huge 50 episodes season JUST to get to the Koshien Invitational and then get the sequel like 3 years later and guess what, team loses in the quarter finals just like that. Now we have to grind again to go to the same place. I don't think I've watched another sports series that felt so tedious. But this was done on purpose... look in previous seasons we've got this huge recap in start of season 2. It take few episodes and now instead of it we've received small glimpse about what happened on Koshien, how good Furuya became and what's most important how much this loss mean for this boys and how will they overcome it. I don't know but if you read the manga you should already know how good story is because of this lost spring "Senbatsu". |
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thevagus said: Last part was emotional. I am hyped about next episode because my boi koushuu is coming. RIP miyuki. True, the one thing that i waited the most for this season. The wolf boy is coming ,Team Wolf boy till the end of the line, RIP Miyuki |
Hatsuyuki said: Pretty sure not a lot of people will resonate with me on this one but I feel like this game completely rendered Season 2 useless. We go through a huge 50 episodes season JUST to get to the Koshien Invitational and then get the sequel like 3 years later and guess what, team loses in the quarter finals just like that. Now we have to grind again to go to the same place. I don't think I've watched another sports series that felt so tedious. welcome to the world of sport. taking the Major League as an example, it's only natural to struggle for 162 matches and losing the Wild Card game. The author of DnA was coherent with the tournament's formula |
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| They managed to capture very nicely Furuya's moment of glory and Eijun's moment of devastation. These were some great shots with focusing on their eyes. It really just shows how great of an impact this will leave on the boys. Pity Masamune didn't have much to say! And after he had such a seiyuu voicing him... I'm looking forward to the next episode, the aftermath and how it affected everyone are one of my favourite moments in manga. Also, new players will be finally introduced! Hatsuyuki said: Pretty sure not a lot of people will resonate with me on this one but I feel like this game completely rendered Season 2 useless. We go through a huge 50 episodes season JUST to get to the Koshien Invitational and then get the sequel like 3 years later and guess what, team loses in the quarter finals just like that. Now we have to grind again to go to the same place. I don't think I've watched another sports series that felt so tedious. The main point of that season was to convince Kataoka to stay as the coach, which they did. Winning Koshien might be great but for the story it wouldn't make much sense to have the climax in the spring tournament when they still have summer to go through. It's better to show they are not ready yet early on so they can work on their weak points and become even stronger. |
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Ten said: They managed to capture very nicely Furuya's moment of glory and Eijun's moment of devastation. These were some great shots with focusing on their eyes. It really just shows how great of an impact this will leave on the boys. Pity Masamune didn't have much to say! And after he had such a seiyuu voicing him... I'm looking forward to the next episode, the aftermath and how it affected everyone are one of my favourite moments in manga. Also, new players will be finally introduced! Hatsuyuki said: Pretty sure not a lot of people will resonate with me on this one but I feel like this game completely rendered Season 2 useless. We go through a huge 50 episodes season JUST to get to the Koshien Invitational and then get the sequel like 3 years later and guess what, team loses in the quarter finals just like that. Now we have to grind again to go to the same place. I don't think I've watched another sports series that felt so tedious. The main point of that season was to convince Kataoka to stay as the coach, which they did. Winning Koshien might be great but for the story it wouldn't make much sense to have the climax in the spring tournament when they still have summer to go through. It's better to show they are not ready yet early on so they can work on their weak points and become even stronger. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kataoka bent on leaving the team regardless of their results ? |
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Hatsuyuki said: Ten said: The main point of that season was to convince Kataoka to stay as the coach, which they did. Winning Koshien might be great but for the story it wouldn't make much sense to have the climax in the spring tournament when they still have summer to go through. It's better to show they are not ready yet early on so they can work on their weak points and become even stronger. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Kataoka bent on leaving the team regardless of their results ? It's not so much about Kataoka's intentions but what the players believed in. They repeated it over and over and made it their goal to enter Koshien so that Kataoka won't have a choice but to stay, that's what drives the whole season 2, in all their games they are united to win for the coach mostly and not just because they wanted to play at Koshien. At the end we see him at Koshien acting as the main coach, which means their goal was reached after all. |
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Wintovisky said: A predictable borefast. No hype from the start to the end of the tournament. Funeral atmosphere the whole game. A sad reminder of why I was so burned-out on Ace of Diamond near the end of S2. And we're only 4 episodes in. I hope it gets more exciting. |
MormegilApr 24, 2019 6:09 PM
| It was a bit dragged but i loved the scene where Sawamura gets the dirt from the bullpen! I loved it in the manga too so many emotions! Though the narration in the end kind of ruined the atmosphere. You know what they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Just Sawamura's intense eyes were enough to pass the meaning. |
| My boy Eijun is more of a supporting character now than a main character to be honest, a stepping stone for Furuya's greatness to come... |
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-Akirion- said: Damn that last part with sawamura hit the feels hard I actually can't believe that I teared a little bit at that moment, since for the past few episodes I didn't feel that the delivery was as good as the previous seasons. It hit me hard. I guess this episode has slightly shifted my perspective again, reminded me of how often my heart felt bitter for the characters in the past seasons. robal15 said: They copied and pasted 8 minutes from the previous episode... Not gonna lie, I thought I was watching the wrong episode when the OP ended and the scenes still looked somewhat familiar xD. |
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| It's crazy that they couldn't get even get more than a single hit off Hongo. Poor Sawamura never got a turn. |
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killerqueen2000 said: ps. did people actually think they were gonna spend only 2 episodes on a match and let them win? Lol Exactly. It was predictable and frustrating. A bad start for the series. I hope the sequence will remember of the previous seasons. |
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jrShark said: -Akirion- said: Damn that last part with sawamura hit the feels hard I actually can't believe that I teared a little bit at that moment, since for the past few episodes I didn't feel that the delivery was as good as the previous seasons. It hit me hard. I guess this episode has slightly shifted my perspective again, reminded me of how often my heart felt bitter for the characters in the past seasons. robal15 said: They copied and pasted 8 minutes from the previous episode... Not gonna lie, I thought I was watching the wrong episode when the OP ended and the scenes still looked somewhat familiar xD. Still better than 3-4 episode recap that they included in start of S2 :D they did it on purpose and episodes 5-6 will be the real launch for Act II, believe me I've read manga :) |
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robal15 said: They copied and pasted 8 minutes from the previous episode... Yeah, that was really bad. Killed the episode for me. I have no idea they thought that was a good idea, and not actually give us the final inning. No, we had flashbacks to the final inning instead. They could have easily stretched things. I was fine for the first three minutes, but anything after the opening should have been new material, not an additional 3 minutes of footage from last episode. Just a waste of time. |
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