aren't viewers supposed to recognize each character from each anime? I can't even distinguish them from one another in my head :/ |
SherlupinMar 17, 2016 1:18 AM
| I take it that you're an accomplished character designer then. Good on you, hitting those lazy rotten frauds where it hurts. |
Ckan said: I take it that you're an accomplished character designer then.. no, but as I said, it's best both for the designer and the viewer to have an anime whose characters are unique and easily recognizable it's problematic if many characters from different anime look the same do you not agree with that ? |
| Really, who gives as shit as long as they look fine? Also lol at confusing Michiru with Usagi |
| It is really hard for me. XD BTW, does it matter? lol. |
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 Along with certain Japanese fetishes there is also something known as "generic cuteness" which prevents characters from looking too different from one another. Some characters are unique, but most will share some similarities. Mangaka don't always make sure that a character design hasn't been used before when they initially design their characters. |
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these are triplets, right ? with different hair color |
| You could say that. BTW only one of them doesn't have a go-to weapon. Guess which girl. |
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| Well...Prison School has a unique character design... But ye most of dem anime characters r really getting recycled |
| Well they do only have two dimensions to work with and unlike real life, making a character ugly tends to be a bad idea so that's a good chunk of possibilities gone. Anime faces have so little detail in the first place that hairstyle and random accessories is really all that separates one character from another, and there are only so many hairstyles before you get into ridiculous territory. |
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| The thing is, a lot of designers want to keep their designs realistic, and if you haven't noticed, realistic for guys in Japan is normally short to mid length, straight black hair. Girls are usually designed a bit more uniquely, because they are normally the main focus of the show, but it is true that designers cater for certain character tropes, or fetishes, and end up with pretty similar designs. I have to admit, I appreciate it when people put a lot of effort into trying into trying to make unique and awesome designs for their characters, and break away from established tropes! It really does add something to the anime ^^ |
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Sherlupin said: From a marketing standpoint? Sure. Once you have a viewer, I think distinctiveness within the show would be more important.no, but as I said, it's best both for the designer and the viewer to have an anime whose characters are unique and easily recognizable it's problematic if many characters from different anime look the same It's also problematic when I cut my nails too short, but it has yet to stop me from using my fingers when I feel the need.do you not agree with that ? If you truly cannot recognise a main character on a week-by-week basis, either there's something gone horribly wrong in the art department, or perhaps the crux of the issue lies with yourself. Are you perhaps watching too many anime at once? Are you taking proper breaks, allowing you to absorb what you're watching? Have you been under a lot of stress lately? Getting proper sleep? |
| *looks at OP's avatar* Well that's a generic protagonist design if I've ever seen one. |
| because of fetish maybe ? something like pony tail, long hair especially twintaill for girls XD but i agree with you, and i think it is hard to come up with a really unique character designs because there are many people draw an anime character out there so it is not suprised if suddenly a person draw an anime character which look the same like the others. so i think it is really hard, well, it won't be hard if they have amazing imagination skill :D "they think they just make a really unique character design that is not exist yet. but the truth, his/her character design look the same like the others" |
YizelTroMar 17, 2016 1:49 AM
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yeah, i know right ? I can't even distinguish him from the first picture |
| Given how badly fans react when they encounter character designs they're not used to (e.g. older anime), I can't blame designers for maintaining consistency. |
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| All the males that listed are very distinguishable. So I don't what's the fuss all about. |
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zombie_pegasus said: Along with certain Japanese fetishes there is also something known as "generic cuteness" which prevents characters from looking too different from one another. Some characters are unique, but most will share some similarities. Mangaka don't always make sure that a character design hasn't been used before when they initially design their characters. I really feel like I recognise the character on the right but I'm sure I haven't seen the other two she's in the pic with. It's rather strange lol. |
MazMar 17, 2016 2:54 AM
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| It's far better than trying to make an ugly character just for the sake of originality. |
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| Yes, character design is hard. There are only 16 colors, and only so many popular hair styles. There is little need for characters to be distinguishable between different shows in the first place. -Maz said: zombie_pegasus said: Along with certain Japanese fetishes there is also something known as "generic cuteness" which prevents characters from looking too different from one another. Some characters are unique, but most will share some similarities. Mangaka don't always make sure that a character design hasn't been used before when they initially design their characters. I really feel like I recognise the character on the right but I'm sure I haven't seen the other two she's in the pic with. It's rather strange lol. The girl in the back is the tsundere from Kiniro Mosaic. The girl on the left is the military girl from Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. The girl on the right is the shovel girl from Gakkou Gurashi. The white thing on the stand is Tippy, the grandfather/rabbit from Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. The setting seems to be the cafe/bar from the same series. The girl from Kiniro Mosaic has a notably different personality from the other two, but their personalities are distinguishable too. |
flannan said: Yes, character design is hard. There are only 16 colors, and only so many popular hair styles. There is little need for characters to be distinguishable between different shows in the first place. -Maz said: I really feel like I recognise the character on the right but I'm sure I haven't seen the other two she's in the pic with. It's rather strange lol. The girl in the back is the tsundere from Kiniro Mosaic. The girl on the left is the military girl from Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. The girl on the right is the shovel girl from Gakkou Gurashi. The white thing on the stand is Tippy, the grandfather/rabbit from Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka. The setting seems to be the cafe/bar from the same series. The girl from Kiniro Mosaic has a notably different personality from the other two, but their personalities are distinguishable too. That makes sense then, if it's multiple characters from different series. Thanks ^^ |
It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| I prefer generic character design than ugly one Just look at ping pong |
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| alternatively, you could actually make an effort to tell them apart |
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| Do you know how many characters there are? Seeing that anime characters have a lot less details in there face than actual humans makes it harder to come up with original designs. And if you do try to come up with original designs, you get weird shit like Shiki. |
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| I think those characters are still distinctive enough to tell them apart. I mean you can tell real people apart even if they have the same hair-color and -length, right? I prefer those designs over randomly attaching weird hair colors to people just so you can tell them apart. Most japanese do have short-ish, black hair after all. Ideally we would have more designs that actually draw detailed facial features, like back in the 80s and 90s but sine everyone here hates how old anime look that wouldn't solve the problem either. Not everyone can design characters like Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Yoshitaka Amano or Nobuteru Yuuki. And more importantly I don't think the majority of anime fans want designs like these nowadays. They're 'outdated'. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Unique? No. Refreshing? Depends. It's easier to draw the regular MC when adapting a show you aren't putting effort into. + if it's from another source, they have to stick with the characters design. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| Well, they are most likely all supposedly Japanese dudes so it makes sense that they look similar (RACIST!), I'm guessing their designed to look like your average not bad looking dude. Making characters look different is easy, although it might not be such a great idea. For certain reasons that probably have already been mentioned by others in this thread so I'm not gonna spill it. And I like to draw, and I have a bunch of character designs... and I must say... Lots of them look almost bloody the same... except for the freaks with certain parts of their faces split, or the really big muscle dudes that look like animals... Buuuuuut I'm not even a good drawer so what do I know! :D |
| You really can't tell those apart? They're similar yes, but they each have some differences. |
| Sometime, what distinguish a character is not the design but more to the artist drawing style, just like people already said in this thead, hair style and color is limited so it's only natural for character to look like another character, that's why the artist drawimg style is important to make a character refreshing and distinct with another. Some mangaka had a distinct drawing style that even if they had similar design, you could tell who draw them. e.g If Oda (One Piece), Kubo (Bleach), Isayama (AoT), Araki (JoJo) and Akira(Prison School) were to draw a character with the same design, you would still be able to tell who draw who. |
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| Try watching more movies those tend to have anime characters that are more unique looking. or older anime |
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| Actually, there is variety in the designs of these females. They're based on the same idea, but each take it to slightly different directions. You do have a point about the guys. In many male-targeted shows, there is no effort put into the males' design because they're not supposed to be important. The girls are the center. |
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| The individuals subscribed to this publication known as anime desire their product to have a certain aesthetic applied to it. It is less about laziness than it is about conforming to the needs and desires of your customers. If your lack of appreciation for manga or your lack of experience of this medium were to be shed, you'd be able to open doors that would lead you to beautiful horizons where you'd see things you have not seen before. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| what is the issue lol? you think humanity as a whole really look that much different from each other? certain character designs are just more popular than others, so you tend to see those more |
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Sherlupin said: i think you will find anime like Sushi Police more to your likingaren't viewers supposed to recognize each character from each anime? I can't even distinguish them from one another in my head :/ |
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| I have more problems with that (mostly light novel adaptations) have designs that do not look good in motion. But overall I am not really bothered by it most of the time, definitely would appreciate more variation tho. Experimenting more with the shapes of the body and head can make the animation really shine. |
| Your exemples are pretty bad. And how is Usagi not a unique design lmao |
| Now compare that to the diversity of western animation. :P |
SuperRed said: Really, who gives as shit as long as they look fine? Also lol at confusing Michiru with Usagi Lol. You can really see this individual's investment in the medium as a whole. |
NNick said: All* I'm asking for is a female protagonist with pants instead of skirt - that would be a good beginning. Behold.  http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Kim-Possible-Season-01 |
NNick said: All* I'm asking for is a female protagonist with pants instead of skirt - that would be a good beginning.  One of the best female character I've seen. Compared to her, Erza Scarlet is a joke... |
| This is nitpicking at its finest mate. |
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| Guys,these are carbon copy, amiright? Tentology said: That's racist. Protaku said: But, but... all Asians look the same, we can't blame him guysThis is nitpicking at its finest mate. |
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| If only all anime characters looked like Yu Gi Oh characters. Also, aren't three out the first set of pics supposed to be somewhat ordinary teens who don't stand out? (Hyouka, SAO, and School Days) |
| Even in your example, I'd say they are still recognizable from each other, and there are tons of different anime designs out there. This is really a non-issue. If we can shamelessly cherry pick: Disney/Pixar: |
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| > it's harder to draw detailed face. > detailed face = detailed expression. > harder to draw = more time to draw. > detail drawing =/= automaticaly sell good > mangaka schedule is fucked up. IE: detail drawing = more effort = need more time and money. now imagine those strugle in animated form which mean they draw it repeatedly, so is those struggle. well, those above struggle can be simply resolved with CGI. lOl. this is also reason why osamu tezuka adapting "moe" style from western with oversimplyfy character and face design. it exist not for no reasons. this is also give chance to not really skilled mangaka to draw manga. it's also make making manga much easier and faster. so does animated it. TL;DR Is it so hard to come up with unique and refreshing designs? >yes |
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Kuma said: > it's harder to draw detailed face. > detailed face = detailed expression. > harder to draw = more time to draw. > detail drawing =/= automaticaly sell good > mangaka schedule is fucked up. IE: detail drawing = more effort = need more time and money. now imagine those strugle in animated form which mean they draw it repeatedly, so is those struggle. well, those above struggle can be simply resolved with CGI. lOl. this is also reason why osamu tezuka adapting "moe" style from western with oversimplyfy character and face design. it exist not for no reasons. this is also give chance to not really skilled mangaka to draw manga. it's also make making manga much easier and faster. so does animated it. TL;DR Is it so hard to come up with unique and refreshing designs? >yes The problem isn't the lack of details. Tatami Galaxy also has few details, but the few that are there are varied and different. |
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