Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| that was one fantastic episode |
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| Is the ending actually hinting that Roswald knows Subaru can return to death? Im confused D: |
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Usaka_ said: Ah, gotcha. Thanks. Yep definitely went over my head with all the other information (knew she was the creator, but didn't think that was Subaru's approach given how friendly/direct he was).Kaguyachinchin said: Should have eaten those body juice cookies, maybe you'd die less. Of course, not even 10 seconds into meeting a witch, Subaru disobeys Echidina's rule of don't touch the witch...noted it wasn't Daphne, but still...come on now. LOL Takahashi Rie's voice like silk. I'm not ready. I might have missed it, but why does Subaru call Daphne Mother? 5/5 this ep This is actually really simple. I bet you're overthinking it is why you didn't get it. But he calles her "mother" because she created the Whale, rabbits, and Snake. And he's not wrong there. He was thinking that telling her that he's already killed one and plans on killing the others. Plus the fact that they are her children would have resulted in an uglier outcome. But instead gets a "well its eat or be eaten life", throws him off a bit. I could see where if you're thoughts are churning all the other info how thinking over this makes it easy to miss. Enjoy. |
| Every week this show surprises me in new ways, sometimes humorous, often terrifying, always entertaining. Satella's appearance blew my mind- though I'm not sure why she's here. |
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| So Subaru and Echidna have only interacted for a short time (though she has some knowledge of his actions before), and now she already likes Subaru as a love interest, without any natural progression in their relationship. Subaru had more than enough potential love interests already; how long a list do we need? The other witches in the tea party are dressed in an eccentric way, and they have generic slapstick antics, but to me it looks like those are only an attempt to hide the lack of substance. Their dialogue is so short and void of substance that they might as well have not been there. The Witch of Gluttony delivered a rant about gluttony without actually trying to properly explain her position, so it came across as arbitrary rambling. The info dumps are dull because they are basically lists of facts about Subaru's ability to return back in time (most of which we already knew), rather generic fantasy mechanics, and the behavior of random monsters. The last part is pretty important because we don't need more random monsters. The fight against the White Whale was boring enough; now we get to fight against a horde of rabbit monsters. Meanwhile, we still know virtually nothing about society in the kingdom, even though the royal selection was supposed to be important, among other things. Evidently, it is not. |
TheDeedsOfMenSep 10, 2020 7:02 AM
TheDeedsOfMen said: So Subaru and Echidna have only interacted for a short time (though she has some knowledge of his actions before), and now she already likes Subaru as a love interest, without any natural progression in their relationship. Fishy, right? Isn't it almost as if she wants him (and the audience) to trust her. Echidna is the one responsible for making the barrier and trapping everyone inside. And if you analyze carefully you'll understand that Echidna actually has a foothold over all of the events going on (Puck -> Emilia, Roswaal, Beatrice, Ryuzu/Garfiel, etc). No character in this show is to be taken in a literal sense. People could be dishonest and deceitful, you know? Especially someone who claims to be the Witch of "Greed". A bit disappointing to see people missing all of the subtle visual clues being thrown around. (Edit: Ok, the Puck part is probably a minor spoiler. But yeah, even he is connected to Echidna. Season 1 anime skipped over a lot of the subtle foreshadowing, but it is in the LN vol6 during Puck's conversation with Petelgeuse when he mentions "Echidna") Subaru had more than enough potential love interests already; how long a list do we need? But tbh here it is only Emilia. The other witches in the tea party are dressed in an eccentric way, and they have generic slapstick antics, but to me it looks like those are only an attempt to hide the lack of substance. Their dialogue is so short and void of substance that they might as well have not been there. The Witch of Gluttony delivered a rant about gluttony without actually trying to properly explain her position, so it came across as arbitrary rambling. It is not like every background character needs to be explained. Not enough time to flush out their characters in one episode. The novels dive a bit more into their characters. Then again, the other witches aren't relevant right now. It is just introducing us to them for when they'll eventually be useful. For now, they are just background characters. It is just that they have far better dialogues than typical background characters in other shows and people start mistaking them for the main cast. The main cast right now (in focus) Subaru, Emilia/Satella, Garfiel, Echidna, Beatrice, Roswaal. And then Otto, Ram, Ryuzu have a bit of focus. Meanwhile, we still know virtually nothing about society in the kingdom, even though the royal selection was supposed to be important, among other things. Evidently, it is not. The world-building around characters and multiple parallelly growing plot threads are evident in the novels. The story/plot is complex (things might seem disconnected and irrelevant but the plot threads will start converging as we proceed). The political and societal aspects aren't dived into yet because the Royal selection is not the main focus of the narrative right now. The selection will happen after 3 years and it is ample time for all the candidates would have grown/changed/developed by then. These aspects will be flushed out better when the royal selection becomes the urgent/important pressing issue at hand. And actually, there's a whole lot of side stories and EX novels the author wrote which expand upon the existing world-building and also dive into bit more detail about politics and society (there are 3 extra novels on Crusch and Wilheim's backstory). But its like the main storyline sticks to Subaru's POV as he slowly explores the world around him, and those political & other aspects aren't directly relevant to him right now, as he's caught up in situations that need to be resolved urgently. |
rakp333Sep 10, 2020 9:26 AM
rakp333 said: I don't particularly trust the characters or the narration. That said, there have been quite a few other female characters who have liked Subaru pretty quickly, so it is a natural assumption to make.TheDeedsOfMen said: So Subaru and Echidna have only interacted for a short time (though she has some knowledge of his actions before), and now she already likes Subaru as a love interest, without any natural progression in their relationship. Subaru had more than enough potential love interests already; how long a list do we need? Fishy, right? Isn't it almost as if she wants him (and the audience) to trust her. Echidna is the one responsible for making the barrier and trapping everyone inside. And if you analyze carefully you'll understand that Echidna actually has a foothold over all of the events going on (Puck -> Emilia, Roswaal, Beatrice, Ryuzu/Garfiel, etc). No character in this show is to be taken in a literal sense. People could be dishonest and deceitful, you know? Especially someone who claims to be the Witch of "Greed". (Edit: Ok, the Puck part is probably a minor spoiler. But yeah, even he is connected to Echidna. Season 1 anime skipped over a lot of the subtle foreshadowing, but it is in the LN vol6 during Puck's conversation with Petelgeuse when he mentions "Echidna") I read that.The other witches in the tea party are dressed in an eccentric way, and they have generic slapstick antics, but to me it looks like those are only an attempt to hide the lack of substance. Their dialogue is so short and void of substance that they might as well have not been there. The Witch of Gluttony delivered a rant about gluttony without actually trying to properly explain her position, so it came across as arbitrary rambling. It is not like every background character needs to be explained. Not enough time to flush out their characters in one episode. The novels dive a bit more into their characters. Then again, the other witches aren't relevant right now. It is just introducing us to them for when they'll eventually be useful. For now, they are just background characters. It is just that they have far better dialogues than typical background characters in other shows and people start mistaking them for the main cast. Meanwhile, we still know virtually nothing about society in the kingdom, even though the royal selection was supposed to be important, among other things. Evidently, it is not. The world-building around characters and multiple parallelly growing plot threads are evident in the novels. The story/plot is complex (things might seem disconnected and irrelevant but the plot threads will start converging as we proceed). And it is not as though all of the info-dumping is interesting anyway. It is often stated too matter-of-factly. It would be more enjoyable to read if the characters had more interesting points or arguments to make, or if they had more interesting beliefs or ideologies, or if they were wittier with their words. The political and societal aspects aren't dived into yet because the Royal selection is not the main focus of the narrative right now. The selection will happen after 3 years and it is ample time for all the candidates would have grown/changed/developed by then. These aspects will be flushed out better when the royal selection becomes the urgent/important pressing issue at hand. That is the problem; the story should have been written so that the royal selection receives at least adequate focus. The same with the central mysteries of the premise. Waiting indefinitely just grinds the pacing to a halt, which is the biggest problem in the series. Does the author intend to continue the series to 40 volumes or something? That is what it feels like. I am almost sure I would quit before that point.And actually, there's a whole lot of side stories and EX novels the author wrote which expand upon the existing world-building and also dive into bit more detail about politics and society (there are 3 extra novels on Crusch and Wilheim's backstory). I am aware of those.But its like the main storyline sticks to Subaru's POV as he slowly explores the world around him, and those political & other aspects aren't directly relevant to him right now, as he's caught up in situations that need to be resolved urgently. ”Slow” being the operative word here. 35 episodes in, and the plot and world-building have been incredibly slow. That's the problem. The novels are a bit better, but the same problem exists. |
rakp333 said: Petra also likes him. And Echidna and Crusch have also teased with having some kind of a crush on him, whether it is true or not.TheDeedsOfMen said: That said, there have been quite a few other female characters who have liked Subaru pretty quickly, so it is a natural assumption to make. Who are you referring to here? I think it is just Rem. Does the author intend to continue the series to 40 volumes or something? That is what it feels like. I am almost sure I would quit before that point. Hmm, your guess is pretty accurate. The author is planning for around 40-45 volumes. It is a long series with multiple overlapping plot threads, a large cast of characters, and a lot of set up. I would suggest at least sticking around until the end of volume 15 (which will be the end of the "Sanctuary" arc, the content this season is adapting). Volumes 13-15 (2nd cour of Season 2) are filled with character moments and thematic payoffs to some of the buildups so far. |
| I don't understand anything that's going on in this season. I watched that Roswaal scene at least five times and I have no idea what the hell he's talking about. It's Roswaal though. He's always cryptic. And I hope we never see those annoying loli witches ever again. |
| Those witches were hella eccentric though. And I appreciate that Rie Takahashi ASMR. Good stuff. |
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| The witches, for lack of better words, are a group of really unique individuals it seems. Nothing like the witches I thought them to be. They seemed like good people at heart, but with wicked personality. I do wish Subaru would meet again with the other witches and have some chat over tea with Echidna in the future! That grassy hills where Echidna are just felt like a comfort zone for Subaru. And just as Subaru meet more switches, the biggest and baddest of them all came to shroud shadow over the sanctuary, while proclaiming her love to Subaru. Ngl, when you're wearing a good set of earphone, Satella's voice on my right ear was deafeningly realistic, really spooked me there. Well, well well, that's why Roswaal didn't flinch on trusting Subaru completely, he knew Subaru's "Return by Death" ability all along huh... What a sly and despicable guy he is. |
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| No, Subaru you just did what Echidna told you not to! No matter how cute she is don't look at her, no matter how fluffy she seems don't touch her and don't let her restraints loose! I always felt that the "Thread made in advance to reduce the competition for the first post." is to win the first post, I mean what is wrong with that? I take my time to watch it so I am never the first but see this kind of post is annoying. |
| I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something. People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English. |
| Hah, we met some other Witches. ;D But Echidna is the cutest and the most friendly one, no doubts. Satella finally decided to join the battlefield directly, eh? Hmm... so Roswaal knows about Subaru's ability. I wonder what he plans to do and what kind of person he really is. |
| Chills when Satella appeared!! Great ep |
| *insert cringey anime reference here* |
| Cute. Satella reminds me of Yubel from GX. and that asmr |
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| Satella lives by the "snitches get stitches" code, she a gangsta |
| Floyd Mayweather English Tutor |
| If there were no bloodthirsty rabbits, there's Satella! There will always be indubitable chaos when this world is concerned. This is getting more and more engaging as the end of the season is approaching. |
KoniginElleOct 22, 2020 11:19 AM
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Echidna is all someone need to enjoy this series, joke aside witch of Envy seems really in Love with Subaru, I now want to see them have a nice chat just like with Echidna. |
anime-prime said: This season will definitely need a re-watch before moving on to the second cour. This sentence definitely aged well for me and for others! |
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| It's getting more crazy, it's getting less and less clear I'm still confused as to who the envy witch is, Satella. They mentioned that the Witch died but why did they have to die? Who killed them is still a question. Several witchs in ReZero also appear here including loli, oneesan bigoppai, and loli sadistic. They are all witch in the world of ReZero or Lugnica. Subaru wanted to give in to the rabbit but it was very difficult at least Subaru had to have the "mana" to lure the rabbit in and kill them just for one strike. The second tea banquet was very much for, at least Echidna and Subaru's relationship was now getting closer. I liked Echidna's jokes and straightforwardness rather than Emilia's complicated. Echidna only asked for compensation for a cloth? Is there any ulterior motives, this is still suspicious. Why did they start discussing rabbits when they haven't thought of a plan to solve the problem at the Mansion? Is it bad to stay in the sanctuary for a long time? Does the rabbit have anything to do with exam deadlines? I'm still curious about the third tea party banquet, what Echidna wanted to talk about Envy Witch or anything, idk And also 12/10 for this eps |
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| Wow things are getting intense now with Subaru meeting most if not all the witches! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| I was wondering why the ep was called "Love Love Love Love Love Love You" lol. |
| You know what I love, the tears of Remplebs and the fact that not even the author likes Rem. |
HotPocketChris said: The Witch of Envy possesed Emilia's body. Whether or not Emilia is Satella (or vice versa) is unknow but I, personally, don't think that's the case.goddamn this ep was crazy. talk with echnida clears things up. i bet she has something sinister planned with the hankerchief shit tho. and satella somehow came back as a spirit, how tho? saying she loves subaru too? why? i read a theory online satella is emilia and since satella can transcend time, subaru loved emilia who in the future is actually satella? this is getting interesting. HotPocketChris said: Roswaal does not know about RBD. He knows that Subaru can change the past, but doesn't know that in order to do so he has to die. If he knew, he would kill Subaru on spot. His "gospel" is the second of the only two existing copies of the Tome of Wisdom.also roswal knows about subaru rbd? and he has a "gospel" too? |
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HotPocketChris said: My guess is that Roswaal learnt about it when the content of the Tome changed when Subaru used RBD.mm makes sense now. interesting. wonder how roswal even knows that subaru can change the past. his tome probably told him im guessing |
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| i hope Echidna and witch of wrath get resurrected cause this 2 are interesting :D and would increase hes harem :D |
| Definitely felt the asmr on this one. Suddenly everyone doesn't look as evil as it seems. |
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| So cool seeing all the different witches. I got so many chills with the Witch of Envy whispering in Subaru's ears ... damn. Roswaal seems to know about Subaru's powers it seems. |
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| Fight with the rabbits will be definitely interesting. |
| Those witches certainly were a unique group of people. Gluttony was definitely the craziest tho. Satella's appearance was unexpected. I have no idea how she appeared or why but I don't see how anyone could ever stop her. |
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| Good episode, actually got to meet some of the witches which was dope (Minerva was so wacky but enjoyable in her little scene) and Satella showing up at the end with the hood and all was pretty crazy. Some parts dragged but otherwise, a good episode that followed up well from the informative episode 8. Loved the creepy "I love yous" that were just on repeat from Satella, voice acting was good there to make it unsettling and fit that horror atmosphere of the episode while everything else was getting swallowed up. |
| It's like everytime he restarts everything is different. |
| I love the new witches that got introduced their outfits all fit them well, and they've all got super distinct personalitys |
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| Subaru got a witch harem lul. Witch of Envy was creepy af there at the end.. things are getting very interesting! |
| Not only did we get to see three new witches this episode, but the big bad witch also makes an appearance. Wonder why though, because Subaru did not wake Emilia? Also it seems that Roswaal does know about Subaru's condition, he always seemed a bit aware that he is special. |
Anucolo said: Gator said: Not only did we get to see three new witches this episode, but the big bad witch also makes an appearance. Wonder why though, because Subaru did not wake Emilia? Also it seems that Roswaal does know about Subaru's condition, he always seemed a bit aware that he is special. No. Because Subaru told Echidna something which he shouldn't have. Oh okay, can't wait to see what it was. |
| Satella is quite similar to Emilia. Maybe Emilia from the future is Satella, well I don't think that's the case, if it is then it'll be kinda lame Roswaal was kinda sus all along, maybe coz of the Gospel he possessed |
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