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Dec 14, 2018 8:29 AM
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Really glad we get even more focus on Narancia and his character this episode. Got to know more about his family and past although it wasn't pleasant to see.

The battle in the present against Formaggio is as intense as I had expected to be. I'm actually quite impressed by how Formaggio's VA managed to amplify his character's personality in this particular episode.

David Productions also made the episode pretty thrilling in particular the fire scenes.
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Narancia isn’t dumb, it just takes a while for his brain to process things.
Dec 14, 2018 9:43 AM
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Not that the episodes haven't been good, but I'm glad the introduction fights will be over in two weeks.

Which means we'll be get a new opening in time for the fights after Araki has established everyone's powers. Can't wait!

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Narancia isn’t dumb, it just takes a while for his brain to process things.


So far we've had three "dumb" characters (Polnareff, Okuyasu, and Narancia), but I would say that all three of them are less dumb and more lacking in common sense. When it comes down to it, all of them are very clever.
Dec 14, 2018 9:48 AM
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This episode was so good, can't wait for the soundtrack release
Dec 14, 2018 10:00 AM
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Pretty touching backstory for Narancia.

And gosh, getting eaten by a spider must be one of the most horrible things I can think of.

Regarding the fight, well it was my least favorite one so far.

I'm still pumped for the next episode.

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Dec 14, 2018 10:05 AM
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Is it me or was the animation especially good in this episode ?
Anyway, it was amazing, can't wait for the true MVP
to show up.

Also https://ibb.co/8Nv54pQ
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Dec 14, 2018 10:16 AM
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Another fucked up backstory, and now Narancia's fight is over. I definitely wouldn't have been able to keep my cool if I was trapped in a bottle with a spider.
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Dec 14, 2018 10:41 AM
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Narancia's father was too cold but I don't know if I should blame the guy for anything, it's not like he was the cause of his wife's illness.
And the fight was super difficult, I'm glad he managed to defeat Formaggio like that.
Dec 14, 2018 11:04 AM
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The last clash between Narancia and Formaggio was badass as heck. I thought the fight was just good in the manga, but in the anime they made it look way cooler. Formaggio's voice acting was very enjoyable, now we know what would happen to Kazuma if he would go psycho. His death scene was also quite cool.

They also made me like Narancia even more. I admit I had some doubts when I heard Daiki Yamashita would be his voice actor, but now I'm totally convinced it was a very good choice, since it also makes him look masculine since the Narancia trap memes are trash and epic at the same time. DavidPro never disappoints.
His past was sad, but thanks to Bucciarati and Fugo, he got over his misery

Also, spiders are scary creatures, but a "giant" one is literal nightmare fuel. Good thing Narancia was smart enough to find a way to free himself in time before the spider would had turn him into human soup.
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And Formaggio is dead. Really enjoyed seeing this fight animated and I had totally forgotten about the spider lol Narancia's backstory was also done well. Props to DP once again for this incredible adaptation thus far.
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I am pumped for more hitman squad.
Dec 14, 2018 11:48 AM

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damn the animation in this ep is outstanding especially the last part
this is what makes jojo adaption so great
loved the episode its only gonna get better from here
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Dec 14, 2018 11:59 AM

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Ulquiorra said:
Narancia's father was too cold but I don't know if I should blame the guy for anything, it's not like he was the cause of his wife's illness.


You can blame him for being a shitty father. What kind of an asshole sees his child grieving in front of his mother's grave and just walks off without saying a word, leaving him to freeze in the rain?
Dec 14, 2018 12:31 PM

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Glad to see Narancia's past animated.
This ep was so good,can't wait to see Fugo in action.
The remake of Berserk is a mistake.
Dec 14, 2018 12:35 PM

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Narancia isn't that dumb tho, tkae a while for his brain to work.I am pumped for more hitman squad.Formaggio was badass as heck and he made my day worth while. I give his VA credit.

I see the ''BOSS'' is givin them another mission.

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Welp, it's official. David Pro wants me dead. Narancia's fights are, by far, my favorite ones in Vento Aureo. The animation, the direction, both voice actors (I'm not too keen ou My Hero Academia but Narancia' seiyuu is a god, and I'll miss Formaggio's, his acting got especially great at the second half of the episode), the colors, the friggin FIRE, the whole situation. Everything at its best.

Aaaand good flashback. Nice timing, it went well with his determination to keep his friends safe. I don't remember if they added new elements to orange boi's backstory this time. Really felt his pain and loneliness :^( also, younger Fugo's design absolutely roasts the current one. Why, David Pro. You actually knew how to make our puddin nerd handsome.
Dec 14, 2018 12:45 PM

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Glad to see Narancia's past animated.
This ep was so good,can't wait to see Fugo in action.


yeah im also hype for the next battle 10/10 for me
Dec 14, 2018 12:49 PM

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Next fight is one of my favorites, seeing how DP has been doing such an amazing job for fights I thought were average and actually made them more enjoyable makes me really excited for the future. Hopefully, they keep it up like this as possible
Dec 14, 2018 1:10 PM

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Surprisingly good episode in terms of quality, makes me wonder how good will be the animation when more important fights happen. I loved Narancia's backstory, it already was one of my favourites from the manga, but the use of a good soundtrack and amazing voice actors made me really feel for him. Best episode so far, and I know it will be topped by episodes adapting future fights, if DP manages to keep this level of quality. Can't wait!
Dec 14, 2018 1:26 PM

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I really felt that Narancia's father beat his wife to death at first.

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Dec 14, 2018 1:56 PM

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What I'm hoping for is that each of La Squadra will get a little flashback of them killing someone in a unique way (except Pesci unless he helps someone), that'd be some neat anime exclusive content.
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Just two things to say:

1. Narancia is arrested by a crime one of his partners did, ¿based only on his hair color? What the fuck?

2. Giorno is able to read the mind of a person he doesn't even know? What lazy!
Dec 14, 2018 2:28 PM

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This is great. The backstory, the fight finale, THE VISUALS! The street looked awesome, covered in purple flames!
Dec 14, 2018 2:48 PM

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PedroBV96 said:
Just two things to say:

1. Narancia is arrested by a crime one of his partners did, ¿based only on his hair color? What the fuck?

2. Giorno is able to read the mind of a person he doesn't even know? What lazy!


"Just two things to say" As usual, you're desperately trying to complain about anything and completely ignore the rest lol.

1-Not only because of his hair, the old woman said he is the one who did it. For an old woman who may have weak sight, it's not that strange to make a mistake. This thing happens in real life you know. They don't have to explain everything okay.

2-He didn't read his mind, he made a guess and he was right. It's been established before that Giorno is a smart guy so this is not that strange. Plus the message was received immediately before they could leave anyway, whether Giorno said it or not it wouldn't have an effect on the situation whatsoever so who cares.

How about you mention the smart things Narancia did or the amazing job DP is doing? I wonder if you even enjoy the show, if not you better drop it now lol
Dec 14, 2018 4:25 PM
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Why no Volaire via???
(Didn't read the manga)
Dec 14, 2018 4:43 PM

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great action scenes as always!
Narancia's backstory was executed brilliantly too
onward to Pompeii!!
Dec 14, 2018 5:32 PM
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Based DP. Great animation and sound for such an underrated minor fight.

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Why no Volaire via???
(Didn't read the manga)


From what I can remember, there was no volavola in this fight in the manga.
Dec 14, 2018 6:18 PM
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OverHeavenAZ said:

"Just two things to say" As usual, you're desperately trying to complain about anything and completely ignore the rest lol.


Because those are the ones that I found to be done wrong in the episode.

OverHeavenAZ said:

1-Not only because of his hair, the old woman said he is the one who did it. For an old woman who may have weak sight, it's not that strange to make a mistake. This thing happens in real life you know. They don't have to explain everything okay.


That's the only thing she provided to the police, and they didn't ever bother to investigate properly, they just arrested him for casually having his hair blonde, without even realizing that it was dyed. So, they were jerks, and the entire situation was cartoony.

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2-He didn't read his mind, he made a guess and he was right. It's been established before that Giorno is a smart guy so this is not that strange. Plus the message was received immediately before they could leave anyway, whether Giorno said it or not it wouldn't have an effect on the situation whatsoever so who cares.


It's the third time he makes a right guess, and consecutive. So yes, he is reading the minds of others.

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How about you mention the smart things Narancia did or the amazing job DP is doing? I wonder if you even enjoy the show, if not you better drop it now lol


Because it's obvious for anyone who watched the episode to see the ingenuity of Narancia in the fight, so I don't find necessary to talk about the things the show does well. And I didn't read the manga of this part so I don't think to be able to say anything about the studio management of this part.

And I try, but how if they cut the fights with flashbacks? Something the previous parts almost never did.
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Its funny how a mere shopping errand turned into such an explosive occurrence! Formaggio was a very tough opponent, I really thought he would send out the location to his friends. I wonder will his friends found out about the whereabouts of the Trish? Narancia's backstory was also cool, that eye infection got me sad for him. That spider moment made me anxious even though it was animated, I really can't stand those Creepies. He should've stabbed it in the eye.

What surprised me is how did he grow out of that bottle, without breaking it?

Great episode,
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Dec 14, 2018 6:23 PM

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I like how they adapted Narancia's flashback here.
Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts.
Dec 14, 2018 6:33 PM
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One of the best episodes so far imo, the final showdown between Formaggio & Narancia was intense.
Dec 14, 2018 7:54 PM

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PedroBV96 said:
Just two things to say:

1. Narancia is arrested by a crime one of his partners did, ¿based only on his hair color? What the fuck?

2. Giorno is able to read the mind of a person he doesn't even know? What lazy!


Not gonna debate number 1.

Number 2 is a throwback to Joseph Joestar knowing what his opponents will say.
Dec 14, 2018 8:51 PM

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I think the spider scene could have been made more terrifying, but it was alright. I forgot how he escaped from it so that was fun to see again.
Dec 15, 2018 2:23 AM
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Dark_Lord9 said:
I really felt that Narancia's father beat his wife to death at first.


I think that's what it was implying. Narancia got an "eye infection" after he got beat up by the police, so Narancia's mother probably got infection after she got beat up by Narancia's father, who didn't bother to give her treatment.
Dec 15, 2018 3:31 AM
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Tsunshine-Chris said:

Not gonna debate number 1.

Number 2 is a throwback to Joseph Joestar knowing what his opponents will say.


But here doesn't fit. In Joseph's part, that was part of the spectacle, here what you have is a guy who has guessed right what others think in a more serious context.
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Tsukizono said:
Dark_Lord9 said:
I really felt that Narancia's father beat his wife to death at first.


I think that's what it was implying. Narancia got an "eye infection" after he got beat up by the police, so Narancia's mother probably got infection after she got beat up by Narancia's father, who didn't bother to give her treatment.

Ok thanks. Really happy that's not me being fucked up.


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PedroBV96 said:
OverHeavenAZ said:

"Just two things to say" As usual, you're desperately trying to complain about anything and completely ignore the rest lol.


Because those are the ones that I found to be done wrong in the episode.

OverHeavenAZ said:

1-Not only because of his hair, the old woman said he is the one who did it. For an old woman who may have weak sight, it's not that strange to make a mistake. This thing happens in real life you know. They don't have to explain everything okay.


That's the only thing she provided to the police, and they didn't ever bother to investigate properly, they just arrested him for casually having his hair blonde, without even realizing that it was dyed. So, they were jerks, and the entire situation was cartoony.


Someone didn't pay enough attention to the Abacchio's Backstory. Also, this kind of stuff happens in the US, but way worse tho. Also, is not like Narancia didn't do anything bad, he was doing bad deeds with criminals, which makes him an accomplice. So whether or not he was the one the granny saw isn't the matter here, with proper investigation he would have end up in jail or beaten up anyway
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Someone didn't pay enough attention to the Abacchio's Backstory. Also, this kind of stuff happens in the US, but way worse tho. Also, is not like Narancia didn't do anything bad, he was doing bad deeds with criminals, which makes him an accomplice. So whether or not he was the one the granny saw isn't the matter here, with proper investigation he would have end up in jail or beaten up anyway


Abbacchio was removed from the police for letting his partner dying at the hands of a subject who bribed him to silence a crime. They found out about it and proceeded, so that case is believable.

Narancia on the other hand, was arrested for allegedly beating and assaulted an old woman, which he did not, with the only data provided by her about her assaultant is that he was blond, and nothing else. She dindn't even look his face, so how can you arrest someone with so little information? And worse, instead of interrogating him, they were simply trying to make him confess something he didn't do, which makes them idiots, and the situation forced and shitty.
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PedroBV96 said:
HereticHunter said:

Someone didn't pay enough attention to the Abacchio's Backstory. Also, this kind of stuff happens in the US, but way worse tho. Also, is not like Narancia didn't do anything bad, he was doing bad deeds with criminals, which makes him an accomplice. So whether or not he was the one the granny saw isn't the matter here, with proper investigation he would have end up in jail or beaten up anyway


Abbacchio was removed from the police for allowing his partner to die at the hands of a subject who bribed him to silence a crime. They found out about it and proceeded, so that case is believable.

Narancia on the other hand, was arrested for allegedly beating and assaulted an old woman, which he did not, with the only data provided by her about her assaultant is that he was blond, and nothing else. She dindn't even look his face, so how can you arrest someone with so little information? And worse, instead of interrogating him, they were simply trying to make him confess something he didn't do, which makes them idiots, and the situation forced and shitty.


Uh, his point was how the presentation of Italy in the anime is to show how everyone is corrupted, especially the cops. They don't care about wrong convictions or not; they just want to close the case and be compensated.

Also, I don't know if it's really the case in Italy, but dyeing your hair blonde is something associated with delinquents. That's the point. The police and even the victim didn't care about he being the real suspect, because he would qualify as it and that was enough.

Anyway, if you problem is the "realism" of it, which, tbh, doesn't make any sense to expect from something so stylish and camp as Jojo, try to read about Louis Scarcella, a corrupted Italian-American cop who would do anything to incriminate innocent people just to get the glory of closing a case.

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Uh, his point was how the presentation of Italy in the anime is to show how everyone is corrupted, especially the cops. They don't care about wrong convictions or not; they just want to close the case and be compensated.


Which means they can incriminate anyone they like just to get paid, making them no more than greedy despicable rats. Tell me if the police men of the previous parts were like that.

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Also, I don't know if it's really the case in Italy, but dyeing your hair blonde is something associated with delinquents. That's the point. The police and even the victim didn't care about he being the real suspect, because he would qualify as it and that was enough.


So a stigma is enough to arrest and condemn someone even if there are no proofs against him/her.

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Anyway, if you problem is the "realism" of it, which, tbh, doesn't make any sense to expect from something so stylish and camp as Jojo...


No show can be excused for demonizing some characters and victimizing others.
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I think the spider scene could have been made more terrifying, but it was alright. I forgot how he escaped from it so that was fun to see again.


Now that you say it, the bottle appears intact and with the spider inside. And since he was covered by the cobweb, should not he have broken the bottle when it regained its normal size?
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Urgh, that spider scene was disgusting.

OverkilledRed said:
Also, I don't know if it's really the case in Italy, but dyeing your hair blonde is something associated with delinquents. That's the point. The police and even the victim didn't care about he being the real suspect, because he would qualify as it and that was enough.


As far as I know, that's just a Japanese thing. It's very unlikely for such a stigma in Italy, where there are many naturally blond people.

But the police being corrupt is probably the most believable explanation for this.
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Urgh, that spider scene was disgusting.

OverkilledRed said:
Also, I don't know if it's really the case in Italy, but dyeing your hair blonde is something associated with delinquents. That's the point. The police and even the victim didn't care about he being the real suspect, because he would qualify as it and that was enough.


As far as I know, that's just a Japanese thing. It's very unlikely for such a stigma in Italy, where there are many naturally blond people.

But the police being corrupt is probably the most believable explanation for this.


Yeah, but what I meant was that him dyeing his hair blonde was to sign this, because Araki likes to write with a japanese audience in mind, so he usually put some aspects of japanese culture in other countries. Just look at Mista's fear of the number 4.

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damn Narancia is a badass in this episode . the visual in this fight is intense . when the fire swap color to purple got me hype .
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This how the sex Begins.

The episode was awesome tbh. The next episode gonna be more epic. Man JoJo is becoming better and better within passing the time.
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when your mini fighter cant kill a human but totally can pen and light up a car. Have to say this was really intense.
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Why no Volaire via???
(Didn't read the manga)


That's not for a while.

PedroBV96 said:
2. Giorno is able to read the mind of a person he doesn't even know? What lazy!


The secret mission to lay low that they were given by the boss was compromised, so Giorno makes the assumption the boss will contact them to update his plans. It makes perfect sense. It's not like he said "Don't worry guys, he'll send us an instant message five seconds after I say this."

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Which means they can incriminate anyone they like just to get paid, making them no more than greedy despicable rats. Tell me if the police men of the previous parts were like that.


You're right. We've never seen corrupt police officers in Jojo before.

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The secret mission to lay low that they were given by the boss was compromised, so Giorno makes the assumption the boss will contact them to update his plans. It makes perfect sense. It's not like he said "Don't worry guys, he'll send us an instant message five seconds after I say this."


It's the third time in the series that he makes right assumptions about the actions of other characters, and consecutive. Besides that on this occasion we don't know how the boss knew about it so quickly. We never saw any kind of individual or object that could inform him about it, and make him take that decision. And while the murder team might be aware that one of its members died, we didn't see that Formaggio managed to use his stand's ability in any way to let his colleagues know Trish's location, which means that if some of them appear in Pompeya to face Abbaccio, Fugo and Giorno, it will feel that they will appear from nowhere.

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You're right. We've never seen corrupt police officers in Jojo before.




And the police men of Part 3 and 4 were like that, no?





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You're right. We've never seen corrupt police officers in Jojo before.



But they literally did nothing wrong? They only caught a guy pickpocketing.
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But they literally did nothing wrong? They only caught a guy pickpocketing.


In the case of the police of part 2, the officer blackmailed Smokey to give him part of the money he stole so as not to imprison him. So he was a corrupt officer.

But the difference between this case and the one that I was pointing out that occurs in the episode, is that in this case, he seek to take advantage of a thief who is certain that stole a wallet, against a case where someone is arrested without certainty that said individual was guilty of the crime he was accused of, and with the only data they had about the guilty is that he had blond hair.
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