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| Now that I look at her...Mei is quite pretty... Seeing earrings drawn on a girl is something that's pretty hard to notice. They actually did it really good here with Yuzu. She turns her head every now and then, and the earrings show when the ears are visible. Cool. QUESTION! Can love exist without sex? LET'S GO MEI! CUCK THIS CUCK! Oh...Matsuri is a clever girl... GAY IS HAPPENING! "When we first started sleeping in the same bed, it was still unpleasantly hot..." Hehehe... Man, shit's about to go down, isn't it? Please don't let the next episode be one of those "can't-make-it-home-because-someone's-being-a-cuck," moments... |
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| Really not liking how Matsuri is developed further into this comic-book villain. We do get some really nice development out of Mei since she's now starting to show she cares for Yuzu, cares for her family, and is willing to fight for it. I was a bit surprised by her kissing Matsuri, but I guess it makes sense with how she's been using kisses so far. Obviously the set-up it seems is Matsuri will use that picture to blackmail Mei or maybe send it to Yuzu to try and make Mei look like she doesn't really care about her and kisses anyone she can. This will predictably upset Yuzu and Mei will have to fight harder for her. That or maybe Harumin will have to team up with Mei to help her win Yuzu back. I don't know at this point. |
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| Pretty meh arc. I don't feel like the series ever needed an antagonist, Matsuri just leaves a sour impression in every scene she is in. All I want is more Harumin! |
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| I forgot already after marathoning episodes 1 through 7 that there's previews. Every time Matsuri is alone with Mei, I think she's going to cause bodily harm to her, but this isn't School Days. |
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| Mei and her big moment of claiming Yuzu´s kiss back!!! One of my fave moments for sure... Harumin is so cool! |
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Actually, it was supposed to be more Mei than Yuzu, at least for the beginning of the series. RobertBobert said: Harumin knows that Yuzu is a lesbian who wants to start a lesbian relationship and says that she will make a good wife. Oh, lol. But if seriously, I'm starting to get a little worries that the show sees yuri exclusively as an exaggerated female friendship or a sexual desire between two girls and nothing more. It's a bit strange. It doesn't, SubaroUta was pointing out how others see it, and this constant comparison drives the narrative at least in part. |
RobertBobert said: Harumin knows that Yuzu is a lesbian who wants to start a lesbian relationship and says that she will make a good wife. Oh, lol. But if seriously, I'm starting to get a little worries that the show sees yuri exclusively as an exaggerated female friendship or a sexual desire between two girls and nothing more. It's a bit strange. Actually the show ( well the manga ) tries to prove it's opposite to that. But yeah I understand what you mean. In general Yuri is always like that and that's why is hard to find some good Yuri, because they keep making it like it's impossible for lesbians to have a relationship without not just sexual desires. |
| @Veromaye @Draconix814 I was just embarrassed by the phrase "the love of girls without sexual desire is friendship" and the reduction of all romantic moments to moments of sexual attraction. However, as I understand, they were going to turn this adaptation into the second Yosuga no Sora, because as I heard, there are more romance and less erotica in the original manga. |
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| Matsuri please, can't you just fuck off? |
| Well, I knew Matsuri would cause problems. It works, though. It's better to throw in the drama with her rather than only having Yuzu become flustered whenever Mei does something to her. Yuzu must really want to cook for Mei or something. She even put out the big stuffed bear and the little accessory to represent her father and Mei. The story is progressing really nicely. Great yuri story. Mei sure knows how to get to people, though. She just has to kiss them. Matsuri doesn't seem as phased by it, though. |
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RobertBobert said: @Veromaye @Draconix814 I was just embarrassed by the phrase "the love of girls without sexual desire is friendship" and the reduction of all romantic moments to moments of sexual attraction. However, as I understand, they were going to turn this adaptation into the second Yosuga no Sora, because as I heard, there are more romance and less erotica in the original manga. There's absolutely no difference between the two in that regard, all the sexual advances in the manga are present in the anime and vice versa, only in the manga it is drawn better, and it emphasizes different points more thoroughly. I think this is a consequence of the fact that the anime put more focus on the idea that Mei is sexually harassing Yuzu that everyone is having this misconception, but Citrus is about attraction- sexual attraction. It's even on the back of the first volume, albeit the Japanese version, "she has to learn that hate and attraction are often not that far apart", and though this is the same director who directed Yosuga no Sora (and Spice & Wolf just saying) nothing about the way it is presented suggests they are making Yuri out to be an exaggerated female friendship. What SubaroUta was pointing out was actually a major part of female sexuality- that women are closer to other women than men are for instance, and also that women are statistically more likely to be bi-curious than men are- thus pointing out that "sexless love between women" can just be considered a friendship because the friendships women form are inherently just as dependent. By saying this, SubaroUta is working her way towards showing how Mei and Yuzu learn to depend on each other and see each other as lovers in a mutual and confident relationship. This is why a lot of manga readers refer to Citrus as a romance first and completely disregard the sexual harassment, all this adaptation did was expand on the sexual harassment thing, albeit in a way that builds on their characters, and though it isn't as exciting as its manga counterpart (perfectly simulating what intense sexual desire/ attraction and the uncertainty of teenagehood feels like) it doesn't blatantly misrepresent or do anything really different at all. |
| @Draconix814 Have you read about it in some her interviews or is it just your interpretation? I know that women's relationships are more intimate than men's, but Citrus has no share in this, unlike the standard yuri-bait like the Love Live or Princess Principal, where almost all of lines between Ange and Princess can be read as a conversation between lovers. Yes, society "allows" women to be sufficiently intimate in contrast to men for whom homosexuality is taboo in any form, but to say that female homoerotism is difficult to distinguish from female friendship? Oh, please. Then we would not have to invent a "romantic friendship". |
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RobertBobert said: @Draconix814 Have you read about it in some her interviews or is it just your interpretation? I know that women's relationships are more intimate than men's, but Citrus has no share in this, unlike the standard yuri-bait like the Love Live or Princess Principal, where almost all of lines between Ange and Princess can be read as a conversation between lovers. Yes, society "allows" women to be sufficiently intimate in contrast to men for whom homosexuality is taboo in any form, but to say that female homoerotism is difficult to distinguish from female friendship? Oh, please. Then we would not have to invent a "romantic friendship". That wasn't my point. My point wasn't that female homoeroticism IS the same as female friendship, it was that the two look indistinguishable from an outsider's POV, especially that of Japan's societal views. They ARE two different things; THIS is what SubaroUta is trying to point out, and the differentiating between the two will drive the romance to its maturity. |
Draconix814 said: RobertBobert said: @Draconix814 Have you read about it in some her interviews or is it just your interpretation? I know that women's relationships are more intimate than men's, but Citrus has no share in this, unlike the standard yuri-bait like the Love Live or Princess Principal, where almost all of lines between Ange and Princess can be read as a conversation between lovers. Yes, society "allows" women to be sufficiently intimate in contrast to men for whom homosexuality is taboo in any form, but to say that female homoerotism is difficult to distinguish from female friendship? Oh, please. Then we would not have to invent a "romantic friendship". That wasn't my point. My point wasn't that female homoeroticism IS the same as female friendship, it was that the two look indistinguishable from an outsider's POV, especially that of Japan's societal views. They ARE two different things; THIS is what SubaroUta is trying to point out, and the differentiating between the two will drive the romance to its maturity. Oh, this theme is always ticklish for me, because Russian culture is very paranoid in this question, you know. But if in PP I see an excessively idealized friendship, in Citrus I see an open gaynst-story that could be better if the Yuzu's romantic feelings would receive as much attention as her sexual experiences. |
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RobertBobert said: Draconix814 said: That wasn't my point. My point wasn't that female homoeroticism IS the same as female friendship, it was that the two look indistinguishable from an outsider's POV, especially that of Japan's societal views. They ARE two different things; THIS is what SubaroUta is trying to point out, and the differentiating between the two will drive the romance to its maturity. Oh, this theme is always ticklish for me, because Russian culture is very paranoid in this question, you know. But if in PP I see an excessively idealized friendship, in Citrus I see an open gaynst-story that could be better if the Yuzu's romantic feelings would receive as much attention as her sexual experiences. All I can say to that is just keep watching and find out how much attention Yuzu's feelings are received in the upcoming episodes. |
Draconix814 said: RobertBobert said: Oh, this theme is always ticklish for me, because Russian culture is very paranoid in this question, you know. But if in PP I see an excessively idealized friendship, in Citrus I see an open gaynst-story that could be better if the Yuzu's romantic feelings would receive as much attention as her sexual experiences. All I can say to that is just keep watching and find out how much attention Yuzu's feelings are received in the upcoming episodes. I really hope so, since I dislike yuri like Sakura Trick, where lesbians are another version of fanservice. |
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| Matsuri continuing to piss people off, including me, but I do appreciate her being there for that exact reason. Assuming we'll have a satisfying resolution in the end after much drama with her Also Mei has started to notice her own feelings more since Matsuri showed up, starting with being jealous last episode, and now valuing Yuzu more |
| This show never ceases to amaze me with how well it keeps itself interesting... I can't get over how intimidating Matsuri is all the time, she's like genuinely scary, yet she's supposed to be a second year middle schooler? Very enticing lol. What the hell does Matsuri have in store next? I figured she was just gonna throw the picture at Yuzu or something, but it seems like she may something better planned haha! Fk you all, Matsuri's grit adds SO MUCH to this show, and keeps me on the edge of my seat. It's beautiful and exciting, and her devilishness is extremely alluring. I wouldn't be surprised if the original mangaka felt the way i do about it. RobertBobert said: Sakura Trick is better than the irritating pretentious esotericism that is the perpetually beating-around-the-bush which Yuri Kuma Arashi and Flip Flappers were...I really hope so, since I dislike yuri like Sakura Trick, where lesbians are another version of fanservice. |
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| @GenesisAria Well, as a male, I will not deny that I am attracted to the idea of a romantic or sexual interaction between girls, but when I see "everyone is lesbian" in such titles, I get the feeling that this is just a banal fetish, not romance. But, I understand your point of view. It seems that I understand ... |
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| @RobertBobert The point of Sakura trick is literally just to be excuses for a cute compilation of lovey happy cute kissing... Plenty of girls love that shit too.... It's adorable. |
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: @RobertBobert The point of Sakura trick is literally just to be excuses for a cute compilation of lovey happy cute kissing... Plenty of girls love that shit too.... It's adorable. Oh, I'm too old for this shit. Maybe if I was younger or was big yuri fan.. |
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| Having read the manga, I don't really find Masturi to be that bad like so many others. She really grows on you in the later arcs, so hopefully there's a season 2 so she can be redeemed. |
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| ok.. ok.. Mei is really a slut.. no matter how u look at it.. or maybe she just doesn't understand what a kiss means now that she has kissed a lot of people.. but u don't just kiss anyone.. even if its girl to girl... damn.. . |
| That ending tho :o Wonder what Matsuri will do |
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| Glad to see I'm not the only one that dislikes Matsuri. Her character just pisses me off through and through. Reading spoilers about her character in the younger years doesn't even get any sympathy from me. Seriously, fuck off, and get out. An outside love interest would be better than having to bring in another najimi. Hell, I'd be fine if Himeko came on stronger than this Matsuri bitch. |
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| Harumin really knows how fashion works! I thought Matsuri would bang those 2 shonen delinquent boys but she was just using them to get a picture for blackmailing! 4/5. |
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| My heartstrings were tugged... Mei SMILING HARUMIN OFC the scene while they were sitting outside waiting for the train was good And last but not least... Matsuri needs to go back to candyland and stop starting shit and wouldn't wearing headphones over your ears constantly affect the growth? |
| Mei is so powerful omg .... That’s all I have to say |
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| Seeing the show in anime form is really making me realize its flaws, but I still love it. I'm sad we've only gotten this far and its already episode 8. There is still SO MUCH to get to ;/ I would not say the pacing is necessarily bad, as this is a important arc. |
RobertBobert said: Harumin knows that Yuzu is a lesbian who wants to start a lesbian relationship and says that she will make a good wife. Oh, lol. But if seriously, I'm starting to get a little worries that the show sees yuri exclusively as an exaggerated female friendship or a sexual desire between two girls and nothing more. It's a bit strange. im a boy and idk its kinda like that for me with the guy i have been crushing on |
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| what's with that kiss............ *rolls eyes* funny how these dumb boys can get away with just standing and looking at girl's underwear in a public place. that's bloody Japan for you i guess |
| see you, space cowperson . . . |
| Matsuri seemed like a good character last episode, but I started hating her.. I want Mei and Yuzu to be together <3 |
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| Hmmm, she acts as the bitch all the time and now they would even feel sorry for her? Come on! The fake drama is really bad and Matsuri is probably the worst written character this season, let's hope this arc ends in the next episode as the rest of sister's interactions was enjoyable at least. |
| I thought that Matsuri was going to sexually assault those two boys who were looking at her panties. I didn't even realize they were peeping at her panties until she said so, I thought it was because she was good at gaming or something. That cliffhanger though... |
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| It is yuzu's fault, she's focused on mei and not giving matsuri attention. Mei looking forward to having a family Christmas so she does her work ahead of time :) |
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| I for one support the idea of a threesome. |
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| i don't really like matsuri...all of a sudden getting close to yuzu, and making mei feel horrible, but i think that this could help mei realize her feelings towards yuzu... |
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| what the hell is going on and why is this okay |
| I can only wish the most painful death for Matsuri. |
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| The Christmas day is near!!! Well, She recorded the Mei kiss!!! It will be troubled!!! |
| The scene with Yuzu and Mei on the bench outside is one of the most criminally understated moments in the entire series. Mei expresses a herself far more genuinely than she ever has, which really shows how much Mei has changed ever since Yuzu came into her life, bringing the two of them on closer terms than ever before. It's very heartwarming to see them interact this way for the first time, and the dialogue sells the moment extremely well. I commend this adaptation for doing it justice. |
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