Mahoutsukai no Yome Episode 3 Discussion

Oct 24, 2017 6:00 AM

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I-TECi

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can't wait the OST

Oct 24, 2017 6:35 AM

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Salokannel2 said:
As expected, another great episode.
So far I have no complaints and only praise for this series.
The only thing I can complain about is why this show isn't rated higher but I guess according MAL standards it is good that this show isn't like 8.9-9.0 now since it would
1. be killed by hype
2. downvoted like hell
3. be made into melancholic emogirl meme.
And besides that, 8.6 is a good score already so yeah.. Would be nice to see it getting a boost like Made in Abyss did towards the end of the series ^^

If the episodes keep being almost the same quality, definitely the anime of the season and probably even anime of the year, though after Made in Abyss last 4 episodes, I'm kinda hesitant :D

@Salokannel2 tha could be happening because there are people that don't like to rate series that hasn't finish.

About the episode everything was awesome the ost, the animation, i love this series and this will be the anime of the season.

Oct 24, 2017 7:15 AM

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Niello said:
Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring.

Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes.

The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting.

It didn't fail though. That's the point here.

Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking.

Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over.

It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season.

Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here.

Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene.

When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode.

So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway?

How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards?
In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking.

I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved.

Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc.

Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that.

Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime.
Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime.

Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video.

You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender.

Those are still better than Mahoutsukai no Yome this episode.

Really? Because I don't see the difference. I think you're just biased, or weren't paying attention to how much actual movement was in those anime.

Niello said:
Aso, by interesting animation I am taking about sakuga, interesting shot composition and whatsnot. This show has done poorly when it comes to those.

Sakuga only appears in the very few "dramatic moments" in any anime, and Yome hasn't gotten dramatic yet.

"Shot composition"
Animation is movement. Composition is the placement of objects within a shot.
I don't think you even know what animation means.

Quoting this whole thread, rather than one particular person. My thoughts are that this medium is meant to tell a story. That comes first. If it was being entered into a animation contest, perhaps the critiques would be valid, but just because it's called "animation" doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene so you can have your fill of "movement." It doesn't matter how technical the animation was, what matters is that it conveyed the story, and for that it had exactly the right amount of everything, in my opinion. Yes, the book/manga is always better, but in that case, don't watch the anime. No matter what, it will never live up to your expectations, because the imagination is better than any animation, always. Anime is primarily made to inspire people to go find the source material and purchase/read it, not really the other way around.

You're saying that the animation quality hardly matters...in animation.
That's like saying acting, doesn't matter in a movie.

"doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene"
When did anyone say anything that implied this??
Why are people on MAL so desperate to win any argument that they're willing to resort to being strawman??
A little more movement would be appreciated in a dramatic scene than literally nothing moving.
If I wanted "realism" I'd watch a live action movie or read a book.

You're not making much sense - I'm being a strawman? Are you inferring I'm setting up a strawman to take down, rather than critique your actual views? Not quite. Reductio ad absurdum, my friend, is used to show the inevitable ridiculous end, to which your argument is headed. Your desire for unnecessary movement during a somber scene is what brought us to this point of conversation in the first place.

However, it seems in actuality that you've misrepresented my argument with a strawman in this line : "you're saying that the animation quality hardly matters...in animation."

My point, friend, was that the animation was deliberately understated during that scene, so as not to take away from the somber atmosphere.

But why are you excusing 100% of the episode, having 0 actual animation, even WITHOUT the "somber scenes"?
I literally never said anything that implied that I wanted there to be movement during a somber scene.
THIS is being a straw man: you are making up things I never said.

Oct 24, 2017 9:32 AM

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This episode was so beautiful. It was over way too fast...

Oct 24, 2017 2:45 PM

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I really enjoyed this episode the ending made me cry that's how I can tell an anime has really made me feel. That hasn't happened in some time, I'm really looking forward to watching more of this anime. (the bride/bath things was kinda weird thou lol)

Oct 24, 2017 8:17 PM

#156

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nothing I can say, can't wait for episode 4. UwU

Oct 25, 2017 1:05 AM

#157

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I can't really remember the last time I felt like this about a fantasy show but so far this feels really plain to me. Don't get me wrong, the visuals look awesome but everything else I could care less about from what I've seen so far. It's done nothing to get me invested in any of the characters. Even the scene at the end with the dragon felt like they were trying way too hard to make it sad. I understand that they might be focusing on world building and the lore within the series so I don't want to judge it yet. Can anyone who's read the manga reply to this and tell me if it changes or gets better than what's already been shown in these three episodes?

Oct 25, 2017 2:43 AM

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A good episode. I can see people complaining about the enchanting moments given that the premise for the moment was just this episode.

If you don't find it amusing then I'm gonna say you're gonna be disappointed because this has a lot of short story arcs.

"... Because when you live in this world of my closed eyes...
... Being alone is very lonely...".

Oct 25, 2017 10:12 AM

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The music :'(

Beautiful episode.

'I love you because you're you. I'm happy that you're whole. I don't care if there are sides of you that I don't know, or don't like. If that's who you are, that's fine. As long as you're whole, that's enough for me.'-Kouko Kaga

Oct 25, 2017 10:28 AM

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