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| Simply perfect series and this last episode is the embodiment of perfection. Taking all the vast material from previous UC series, concluding and elevating the whole Gundam franchise to incredible heights. Undoubtably 10/10, there would be lack of praising adjectives to describe the series. |
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| What an amazing finale!!! So many things to write, let's get started :) The animation is music definitely is the best out of all the episodes. Tension, Drama, Sadness, Fear as well amazing battle themes and sound effects. Man I knew Marida would die here. She's a Puru clone so she was destined to die. Her being killed by Riddhe kinda reminds me what happened to Plu being killed in ZZ Gundam. I don't like Riddhe, but at least he became tolerable in the end. So the Laplace box is a monument that helps future new species in case they might emerge out of nowhere. Which Newtypes were born. I think i didn't like about this is for such an important monument. How the hell didn't this important part of the universe were reference in Gundam 079 All the way to Char's Counterattack? Almost 100 years, yet it was only being talked about towards the end of the era. I understand Unicorn is new compared to the other shows. But man i wish they should have reference this right from the start. It kinda reminds me of Metal Gear Solid series where they made nanomachines complicated as is. WTF Psycho Frame became an integral part out of nowhere. I know Char's Counterattack introduced it, but i feel it would have benefit if this was also introduce in the first Gundam 079. It would explain the green light better as well as Lalah's Soul traveling whenever she wants. Full Frontal is just angry that what Char and Amuro did in the Axis Shock incident were all for nothing. Humans stayed the way they are. War keep waging, people being killed etc Nothing has changed. Then again, i do agree to Vist that this timeline doesn't belong to them anymore. It's for the youth that will decide for the future. Only the adults will guide them the right way, but have no say what to do in the future. When they traveled back in time, it's nice to see them reanimate some of the 079 scenes in HD form :) I love how Lalah, Char and Amuro's Soul appeared and talked to Full Frontal. Man what an amazing scene!! Even though i was disappointed there was no epic final battle like what happened to Char vs Amuro in CCA. This makes up for it :) And when Banagher and Riddhe formed that green psycho frame shield. It reminded me of the Axis Shock in CCA!!!! And with all the green light. It really does remind me of Gundam 00. I think after watching Gundam Unicorn. I begin to appreciate Trailblazers Movie even though i didn't like the way they end the timeline. Even Unicorn Gundam's armor turned into diamonds similar to Trailblazers!! Though it would be awesome if there were a communication device that will broadcast all over the world at the same time. With how far people have been separating(in the UC era, but Earth might follow in the future), It's nice that it connects people from all over the world. Of course not everyone will agree with the message and all. I think the ending would have been more impactful if Banagher died. Yeah i know so many people died already, but every MC always meets some sort of cruel fate except for Judau(Kamille was mind fucked though). Still what an amazing closure to the UC era. After starting watching Gundam 079 back in Summer 2014 and finishing it in Summer 2015. It's all worth the time spent ^^ And that closes the Gundam UC Era animation. I haven't watched F91, Victory. But we really need a Crossbone Adaptation! It's been long overdue now!! Don't mind if it's Unicorn OVA style, as long as it's serious and has amazing animation and battle scenes as well as music. Farewell Char's Soul!!! I did read that his soul lives on in the Psycho Frame of Sazabi and some Neo Zeon were managed to fixed it and put his soul on a clone body. Though i don't know what kind of body it is, but if Plu can have multiple clones i say why not. Banagher is good MC, but didn't like how he was really weak compared to the other MC. Not just piloting skills, but also the will to get through a situation. It took him so many tries and fail realizations to get it right. At least he didn't hold all of this for 7 years(looks at Amuro) Will wait for Gundam The Origin to be finished releasing all the BD's till i watch it. So maybe 5 years from now? I may take a break for Gundam works till the end of the year. Might watch the new Mobile Suit Gundam IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS, but we'll see. I give this a 9/10. It's just missing a final confrontation between Banagher and Full Frontal. Other than that amazing stuff!!! My favorite Gundam still remains: Wing>Zeta>00>Unicorn>CCA>ZZ>079 My favorite pilots: Heero Yuy>Kamille Bidan>Tiere Erde>Judau Ashta>Shinn Asuka>Setsuna F Seiei>Amuro  |
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| Intended to give this a 7/10 but the last 30 mins/the conclusion of this episode were just masterful that I think I'll bump this to an 8/10,really felt like an end to the Universal Century (even though it not) full of endless possibility for the future. Man,watching F91 after this is going to suck major balls since it'll make it seem like Banagher and Mineva's efforts went to waste after only 27 years. Going based on the UC Gundam I've seen I would rank them like this: 0079>Zeta>Unicorn(first 6 episode would rank below Zeta,last episode above Zeta)>ZZ>CC |
4kicks said: Exblaster said: It was never implied that all clones died. Heck, in one of the Gundam Evolve episodes there was Judau rescued someone that resembles Ple Two. I see. I still dislike how Marida went out, and the fact that the person taking her out I hate all this "friends becoming enemies, then friends again" crap. I wish the show got rid of Riddhe when they had the chance. This kind of thinking is exactly what keeps us from growing as humans. As long as all we are after is revange the cycle will never be broken. At some point, somebody needs to be the better and wiser person and say STOP NO MORE THIS IS WHERE THE BLOODSHED ENDS. Riddhe made some very bad choices, and did bad things, as do allmost all people in war and conflict. But what is the point in killing somebody who feels genuine remorse and tries his hardest to make amends by helping in any way he can? Riddhe KNEW he was wrong, he even wanted to die at some point asking to be shot down. When he calmed down, regained his senses, he ended up helping everyone, which was a lot more usefull to everyone then a dead Riddhe at that point. Nothing would have been gained by killing him at that point except maybe more sadness, more thirst for revange by those who loved Riddhe. If revenge is all people focus on, the fighting wil never ever end. This Gundam story is one of my favorites exactly because thats the message. The only way to change/save human kind, is to break that cycle of hatred and killing. Which at least some people thankfull seem capable of doing. Humans need to evolve and let go fo their hatred. By keeping Riddhe alive and letting him help by risking his own life, they showed us the power of redemption. Also the whole enemies who become friends is powerfull and maybe the strongest part of whole Unicorn. because at the end of the day, we are all just humans, and humans are capable of more then being stuck in blind hatred or discriminations. The neo zeon and federation people who ended up becomming a team show us that humans are also capable of good things, and aren't always just mindless killers. They showed a strenght and wisdom we should be inspired by. Something we should strive for ourselves, not redicule or mock. It's not unrealistic. it's possible, it happens. Enemies who become friends or even lovers because they realise we are all humans together. people need to stop dissing on these kind of endings and these kind of people where revenge is forgotten, and enemies become friends. because it's exactly this kind ot thing that will make the world a better place, humans a better race. We need to work hard to get there already, instead of working against it and keeping this wrong status quo we have lived in so far alive. Hatred will never make the world a better place. Kindness and understanding just might. Those guys from zeon and the federation who worked together at the end, they are good people. And it's people like that, who give humanity hope. People like that we should look up too. No, Keeping Riddhe alive, having enemies turn friends, those bits where the very best parts of Unicorn, because those are importand life lessons we should learn from already. Everybody who mocks this, attacks this, or doesn't see how importand that is, needs to take some time and reconsider. Revange and hatred keeps misery and suffering alive. Kindness and forgiveness and understanding can and will create a better world if enough people work together to get this done. Don't attack these messages, support them, help hem grow. Spread love not hate and all that. Because as cliche as it sounds it's true. Hatred will never make the world a better place. But just maybe love might. |
| Man how do I even go back to other shows now....also to the guy who says 0079 is the best, thats fine if you think that but your fucking crazy. |
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| This series gave me so much feels. I watched it in dubbed and i have no regrets |
| Hate Keeps me warm |
| And I finished this at the right time for the remake. I have only watched the 3 0079 movies, Zeta and CCA before. I had to spoil myself for Marida in ZZ but I don't regret not watching this (yet). I will go back to ZZ and the others I skipped later on since they didn't have that direct connection to Unicorn. But what can I say? An amazing story with very good characters, plot points, music and animation. I really liked Links, Mineva and Marida. 10/10 for me. |
| Absolutely amazing, I am yet to see anything evoke such raw emotions that this series did. Perfection. |
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| Holy shit.....the feels in this one. I rarely give 10/10 to anything but this gets one. The music, the animation, the callbacks, the cameos, everything just worked to such a high level. If you've watched all the UC gundam before, then you'll get much more out of this. If not then not so much. This was such a love letter to Gundam fans, especially UC fans. It shows that they can get it right. Now if only we can get a Blu ray set stateside. Right Stuf MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! |
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| Alright, I still have my gripes with Riddhe's impossibly wishy-washy emo bullshit and the way Marida was taken out of the story (yet another fucking Cyber Newtype who had to serve as some kind of sacrificial lamb even though she had just earned her salvation?? UC Gundam pls). I'm not quite sure what a "perfect Newtype" is supposed to represent, considering that Tomino's treatment of the topic in preceeding UC entries has been... extremely vague at best. What standards do we base ourselves on to determine that Banagher acheived this "perfect" status compared to the newtype pilots that came before him? Do we take into account the extent of his telepathic and/or psychokinetic abilities alone? If so, then I'd argue he barely outclasses the likes Kamille and Judau, who both have pretty ridiculous feats under their belts (especially the former, who's got some fucking stand-like aura shit going on that scared the living shit out of Haman Karn of all people and was hyped up by the woman herself as the key to a future Newtype revolution). Or do we take the machine into consideration as well? In which case, would a psycho-field of the same magnitude as the one we saw this episode have been achievable if Unicorn and Banshee were piloted these two I previously mentionned? This question is probably fated to come up in every title dealing with Newtypes but now that Banana and Audrey Hepburn have shown humanity a world of new possibilities, will the psycommu system have to be limited to war machines? Isn't there any other means to allow Newtypes' potential to manifest and contribute to a peaceful future for both Earthlings and Spacenoids? I wonder if F-91 and/or Victory will touch on this. Anywayyy, despite all my pet peeves and criticism, that finale was nothing short of glorious and what in my opinion could consitute a really satisfying conclusion to Universal Century and all its past conflicts. Full Front- you know what fuck it, I'll just call him Char! So, Char's death in particular and the whole spatiotemporal travel that came before it was easily the episode's best moment for me. I didn't quite realize just yet how hard CCA's last quarter hit me until I heard Amuro's voice again (and for the last time ;_;). Really makes me appreciate the movie even more in retrospect. The psycho-field was of course another highlight, and the BGM that accompanied it made me teary-eyed once again. And for all my ramblings about how shit Riddhe is, I'm glad he didn't die, as disturbing as the complete lack of negative reaction from everyone to his killing Marida was (I know the whole point of newtype connection is about forgiving and understanding, but damn). No easy way out for him, he got to see the error of his ways and must now live on with all the stupid shit he did. Same thing with Angelo; even though i never quite understood what the fucking deal with his Full Frontal obssession was, I was happy to see he survived and seemingly resigned himself to let go of his grudge when he realized the self-proclaimed vessel for all his negative feelings and wishes had passed away. So yeah, fucking great finale to a pretty damn good UC entry that alone managed to bump my score from 7 to 8. cupc said: I fucking creid m8; that shit was too real :'/Even Amuro had a short line in there ;__; |
SapewlothDec 14, 2016 9:42 AM
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| From beginning to end of this episode, I never realized I was watching a finale. 3/5 That wasn't bad, but there was nothing left to keep an eye on. Overall: Well, some nice exploitations of old elements in the middle of a vain epilogue full of 3DCGI. Score: 5.5/10 (6/10 for the OAVs) Enjoyment: far from what it's supposed to be considered how grand this deluxe OAV wants to be. Sapewloth said: This question is probably fated to come up in every title dealing with Newtypes but now that Banana and Audrey Hepburn showed humanity a world of new possibilities, will the psycommu system have to be limited to war machines? Isn't there any other means to allow Newtypes' potential to manifest and contribute to a peaceful future for both Earthlings and Spacenoids? I wonder if F-91 and/or Victory will touch on this. All those super powers demonstrated thanks to the machines fully made of psychoframe are not seen anywhere after. Currently watching Victory, I found only a few Incoms, no funnels or aything relying on the psychommu system. About Newtypes in general, it looks like they became very quiet (not a wonder after the past UC events). To the point they are creatures of legend (even the "white mobile suit" has reached this status in Victory's time), what certainly helped to reduce the importance of Newtype weapons development. A Newtype is even almost given a god-like status in this series. Unicorn,because it inserts itself in past works, is anecdotical in term of impact. Unless you consider its events are a part of what convinced the Newtypes to stay hidden. PS: the worst aspect of the later UC: newtypes are legends because of how strong and incredible they were... as soldiers. The theme the original saga hammered through NT is totally forgotten. edit: @Sapewloth Zut! I didn't want to reduce your interest in the next installments but simply help you to avoid unnecessary doomed expectations. Especially when you're about to discover the sadly unfinished great renewal of Gundam and Victory who is able to keep me hooked to battles when Zeta's ones annoyed me terribly. Anyway, I hope you'll enjoy F91 in its own unique way. (still not over the 2 sequel movies that were never made). And ESPs are still here less predominant, but never as a way to express the old idea represented by NT before. (and from the few more eps I've seen of Victory, the slim NT presence in it tends to go overboard in term of powers) edit2: Oh, you already saw it. And disliked it. ^^" My bad. @Sapewloth About Victory, Tomino felt that "the show went off in all directions and ended up lacking focus". Anno thought "V Gundam is a story about soil and women". Tomino had "the actual feeling of finally becoming able to write female characters". He "was very glad to get to the point where [he] thought [he]'d be able to depict woman’s nature", he "could see a woman’s blunt feelings". But as Anno pointed the veteran out, he "focused so much on writing women [he] almost didn’t have any interest in men". Source: Animage (an issue from 1994) Interview made in reaction to Anno's opinion about Victory when it started its broadcast: the greatest Gundam show ever made. And Rei thought it offered a good "sense of war", had a good use of its musical score (despite the lack of strong tracks), had far less annoying battles than Zeta, but got some awkward dialogue lines back and despised the absence of Yasuhiko (who had made its come-back with F91 in exchange of having a creative input on the story itself, q-p). Sorry, I must have forgotten some things. Source: first-hand. Warning: producers forced to broadcast the eps4 first, making eps 1-3 flashbacks shown right after. (you can try the order thought by the staff if you want) August 20th, 2019 @gustavomazu He's supposed to have been some kind of artificiallly enhanced human (à la Cyber NT), somehow inseminated with Char's memories (or part of it) mimicking Gaia Gear's Affranchi Char, and based on his last animated (mystic) scene be the receptacle of a part of Char's newtype soul (don't ask me how and why). Unless this bit of soul was salvaged from the rest of some robot (after all, Evangelion did it). This kind of things is to be expected when you know the (novels) author is someone who likes to write "fan-fictionny" style stories based on SFclassics he liked. So you end up with a melting pot of pseudo-hommage "good" ideas. gustavomazu said: the mystery of wheter or not char dies at the end of char's counterattack isn't worth keeping at bay forever I am pretty sure Amuro and Char were both confirmed dead by the finale's creator. "MIA" is only because it was obviously impossible to recover the corpses. February 23, 2020 Baka-Ouji said: And so my journey through the universal century has come to an end. So soon? But you missed such good parts... February 25, 2020 @Baka-Ouji I had to rewrite the whole thing from scratch since it was lost and had not the patience to do so, so excuse the note-taking style. F91=long project trailer.Beauty to behold >Char's Counterattack.Great to see the original charadesigner's style in such quality.Interesting thematic coat (family) botched by producers. Victory is... stupidly infamous."kill'em all" is in full effect but death is not to move you, it's an illustration of war: anyone, at any time, can die wether they were important or not,they're all "equal peoples" and had a life. Actual problems: first episodes inverted, absolutely aimless (worse than Zeta's middle), some usual Tomino-isms (dialogues are ok but some bad habits are present), some illogical SF/mecha ideas, pretty poor visually. Positives: OST, neat battle ideas For any person that liked Gundam and maybe Zeta. G-Reco: still watching it. Very good aesthetically, battles well made, interesting geopolitical situation. Close enough to the UC era to be invested in and remote enough to wonder. Great technology implementations everywhere (mecha, everyday life). Tomino way of storytelling (most infos given through dialogues/situations/visuals) so it earned the false reputation of being unintelligible by baby anime consumers. Interestingly, it seems like it will connect to Turn A (curious to see that) I wouldn't say it's essential viewing. But it is always interesting to watch Tomino trying to express something new through his work. Turn A: the (actual) UC epilogue you owe yourself to watch. Despite parading as an all-universes epilogue (malicious Tomino) and being more than 1000years distant from the first stories, it works marvelously well as a conclusion to all things UC thanks to its shared thematics and creator. Yes, there is war anew despite all that happened before, but it's not in the form it took before and the way it's handled is new, the world is fresh and the characters all good (maybe too much). I would say that it meanders a lot but it's mainly for the better in this series, it suits it way better than it does to Zeta, ZZ or Victory. I wasn't sure at first that it was really linked to 0079 and all (I was thinking it could be simple fan-service) and then ... I ended up with teary eyes at the revelation ^^". The finale of the show isn't exceptional but its own little epilogue is perfect, the scene very comptently crafted, and got me to cry. -_- Other positives: great music by Yoko Kanno, original robots, interesting chara-design. So, if there was only one remainingslot for Gundam in your progrmmation, it ought to be this one. WARNING: Unicorn doesn't affect any of those series since it was written a posteriori by someone else. July 8, 2020 @St0rmblade Don't smile about this dumb Unicorn statue, this means it is now impossible to do a pilgrimage to the RX78-2. (I should have spared money and do the travel years ago, a shame...) Glad you liked it, even the superpowers at the end. I can't blame you, I fell for the Ple fanservice too. (the mechanical fanservice though... with all those obsolete robots and weapons wasn't to my liking) I hope you're ready to scale down power and size (no more humongous mechanical beast like the Sazabi or the models of this series). Of course; nothing from Unicorn ever happened regarding what comes next. ^^ |
Rei_IIIJul 9, 2020 2:03 AM
Rei366 said: Well, that's a shame. I mean, I somewhat expected Unicorn not to break continuity nor have any significant impact on the future events of the UC timeline since it's a recent work, but it's disappointing to hear that Tomino dropped all those interesting ideas he introduced in the earlier UC entries. For all its flaws, I think the whole idea of Newtype and extra-sensorial connections established through space and time was a genuinely fascinating concept that would've seriously benefitted from being further expanded upon.Sapewloth said: This question is probably fated to come up in every title dealing with Newtypes but now that Banana and Audrey Hepburn showed humanity a world of new possibilities, will the psycommu system have to be limited to war machines? Isn't there any other means to allow Newtypes' potential to manifest and contribute to a peaceful future for both Earthlings and Spacenoids? I wonder if F-91 and/or Victory will touch on this. All those super powers demonstrated thanks to the machines fully made of psychoframe are not seen anywhere after. Currently watching Victory, I found only a few Incoms, no funnels or aything relying on the psychommu system. About Newtypes in general, it looks like they became very quiet (not a wonder after the past UC events). To the point they are creatures of legend (even the "white mobile suit" has reached this status in Victory's time), what certainly helped to reduce the importance of Newtype weapons development. A Newtype is even almost given a god-like status in this series. Unicorn,because it inserts itself in past works, is anecdotical in term of impact. Unless you consider its events are a part of what convinced the Newtypes to stay hidden. PS: the worst aspect of the later UC: newtypes are legends because of how strong and incredible they were... as soldiers. The theme the original saga hammered through NT is totally forgotten. I'm still gonna watch F91 and Victory I think, but I'm not so enthusiastic about it anymore, to be perfectly honest... edit: @Rei366 lol don't worry about it, it's my fault for having those expectations to begin with; I should know by now that Tomino has a thing for introducing great and original ideas and never following up on them. I sadly wasn't impressed by F91 (it really should've been a TV series), but if Victory is able to stand on its own and be enjoyable regardless of my lowered expectations, then all the better. Thx again for all this info by the way |
SapewlothNov 10, 2016 1:43 AM
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| 7 ovas for enjoy and this last one was cool!!!! War, deaths, drama, goods, bads, uglys, tratition, hope, hope, hope to end fight and all were are equals!!!! 9/10. |
| Hands down, the greatest and most breathtaking anime I have and will ever watch. No series will come close to eliciting the rainbow of emotions I shed through watching this masterpiece. |
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| This was a good show... great battle choreographies, new model & old model of mobile suit from all if not most of the shows and many locations from all the Universal Century. This tied some lose plot points and expanded the lore, I can’t complain... |
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| Oh my gosh. This show is terrible. I tried to love it but I can't. 3/10 |
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| Character writing was really not that great but at least it ends UC better than CCA 8/10. |
| This is so dumb. I should've stopped watching when I realized how pussy the MC is. How the hell he became a pilot when he wasn't able to kill anyone. This couldn't get any more unrealistic and we're talking about a mecha anime here. Just some dumb pacifist propaganda. |
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| So ends another Gundam journey. Another fantastic episode to end a great series and probably my second favorite being the MSG. The care and time put into this show makes me want to fully appreciate it, so I'm planing on reading up on my Gundam history and re-watch the series, as it deserves it. The animation, music, just the overall production was top notch. 9/10. |
| This was everything I love about Gundam. So sad to see this end and I don't think there will ever be another one like it. |
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| Curse that spoiled brat, he killed best girl!! Great end to a great OVA! making this longer than the other episodes was the right choice. I got a bit emotional during this one, I have to admit.. This was like the archetype gundam. It had everything I expect and think of when I hear "Gundam", all the morally grey characters, the different view points, people changing their minds along the way, the struggle for peace, the betrayals, the political intrigues and great action. The characters felt like I have seen them before, the situations they faced seemed so well known to me, like I have watched it before. Which I sort of have, since this isnt my first Gundam. If you ever wanted to experience Gundam, but without watching 50-100 episodes which will get repetitive, badly paced and fillerish, this is the right title. All of core Gundam, nicely fitted into 7 ~1h OVAs, with the last one having movie length to give it a proper grand conclusion. While it might not have the quantity of characters longer entries have, they certainly have the quality. Im not sure if this is my single favourite Gundam, that honour probably belongs to 00, but that was also my first, so I might be biased. However its not completely stand alone, it has the entire UC timeline to back it up and while it has strong connections with it, you can watch it stand alone. It might act as the entry to the oldschool timeline. 8/10 possibly 9/10, but the animation could have been better. Maybe Im too spoiled after Thunderbolt. But the way the characters moved, especially when they got emotional was nice. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Unicorn has something to say about humanity and its future potential that I can really appreciate, and (maybe being an exaggeration on my part) that is exceedingly rare in sci-fi anime. That being: that humanities future should a be a human future. This was half a story about blood legacy, and half one of the power of language and human agreement. Humanities future lies in the power of language to form agreements and understandings. Do Newtypes even exist? the anime asks as it ends with the reveal of a long lost idea, a concept born in language. The ghost of Char, the ghost of a charter. The anime ends with the possibilities being completely open, and I really like that. It's telling that what forms the basis for the conflict are so ephemeral, and maybe aren't what is truly being fought over. There is something special here that truly touches on human conflict and tragedy Is it too sappy? I don't care, I'll eat it all up. I really enjoyed this, but I can sort of understand why some Gundam fans might have a problem with it. I love the kinds of imagery and the feeling that came with the Newtype psycho communication fuckery, it's just sort of my weakness in general, and even I'm not 100% on this final installment, but I think it was thematically coherent enough, and didn't stray too far from other UC ideas in trying to be conclusive, to hamper my enjoyment. Visually, this is a masterpiece. |
syncrogazerMay 22, 2019 7:11 PM
| And so my journey through the universal century has come to an end. What an epic ride that was! all these emotions and that ending with char, lalah sune and amuro really got to me. all the callbacks and cameos to the previous UC parts made me appreciate the ending even more. Unicorn has its flaws and you could say that the ending is a bit Cliché but I enjoyed every single minute of it. "BANAGHER LINKS, UNICORN GUNDAM, IKIMASU!" it's a 10/10 from me. |
Rei_III said: February 23, 2020 Baka-Ouji said: And so my journey through the universal century has come to an end. So soon? But you missed such good parts... I felt like unicorn was a good point to stop. Tying all the previous parts of the UC together and ending it on a hopeful note (I admit it I have a soft spot for happy endings especially when done right :D) And to be honest, with the whole "Kill 'Em All Tomino" I'm kinda anxious to watch beyond unicorn although I may watch F91 soon enough. Are there other good parts you recommend? |
Rei_III said: @Baka-Ouji I had to rewrite the whole thing from scratch since it was lost and had not the patience to do so, so excuse the note-taking style. F91=long project trailer.Beauty to behold >Char's Counterattack.Great to see the original charadesigner's style in such quality.Interesting thematic coat (family) botched by producers. Victory is... stupidly infamous."kill'em all" is in full effect but death is not to move you, it's an illustration of war: anyone, at any time, can die wether they were important or not,they're all "equal peoples" and had a life. Actual problems: first episodes inverted, absolutely aimless (worse than Zeta's middle), some usual Tomino-isms (dialogues are ok but some bad habits are present), some illogical SF/mecha ideas, pretty poor visually. Positives: OST, neat battle ideas For any person that liked Gundam and maybe Zeta. G-Reco: still watching it. Very good aesthetically, battles well made, interesting geopolitical situation. Close enough to the UC era to be invested in and remote enough to wonder. Great technology implementations everywhere (mecha, everyday life). Tomino way of storytelling (most infos given through dialogues/situations/visuals) so it earned the false reputation of being unintelligible by baby anime consumers. Interestingly, it seems like it will connect to Turn A (curious to see that) I wouldn't say it's essential viewing. But it is always interesting to watch Tomino trying to express something new through his work. Turn A: the (actual) UC epilogue you owe yourself to watch. Despite parading as an all-universes epilogue (malicious Tomino) and being more than 1000years distant from the first stories, it works marvelously well as a conclusion to all things UC thanks to its shared thematics and creator. Yes, there is war anew despite all that happened before, but it's not in the form it took before and the way it's handled is new, the world is fresh and the characters all good (maybe too much). I would say that it meanders a lot but it's mainly for the better in this series, it suits it way better than it does to Zeta, ZZ or Victory. I wasn't sure at first that it was really linked to 0079 and all (I was thinking it could be simple fan-service) and then ... I ended up with teary eyes at the revelation ^^". The finale of the show isn't exceptional but its own little epilogue is perfect, the scene very comptently crafted, and got me to cry. -_- Other positives: great music by Yoko Kanno, original robots, interesting chara-design. So, if there was only one remainingslot for Gundam in your progrmmation, it ought to be this one. WARNING: Unicorn doesn't affect any of those series since it was written a posteriori by someone else. Thank you for the long answer and don't worry about it being late :) As for the suggestions, I think the one that piqued my interest the most has to be Turn A. I heard a lot of great things about it from many people. but since it wasn't exactly part of the UC I was putting it off for a while planning to watch it on the long run. but after reading your comment I think I will really enjoy it. I also didn't know about Yoko Kanno being involved and as a big fan of her I will definitely watch it sooner than I planned! |
 An UC Gundam anime where NewType magic didn't ruin the ending? Nice. Still Banagher's love for Minerva doesn't make sense for me (same goes with Riddhe). Fortunately that doesn't ruin my overall experience with this anime. All the things that tried the previous entries are well implemented here with that spice of "possibility", also you can see both sides of the team instead just look the Zeon ones as "Char's baddies". I really liked Riddhe's changes during the show, he reminds me to Dimitri from Fire Emblem. The Laplace box is amazing. At first by not knowing what would be I thought that was like some kind of ultimate technology that literally would destroy the planet. When it was revealed that just a sign contract I was like "that is all?", giving a little letdown, so I paused a bit the episode and then I got it, it's brillant. Easy and effective, enough to shake the world, a creible reason for the Federation do questionable acts and a clever way for not kill Banaghers & let him be "free" around both sides of the participants, learn more about them, to characters like Marida which in normal circustances would be impossible for him to interact with her. Best piece of rock in the mecha media. Overall an enjoyable surprise, considering for me that was a big dissapointment the Char's counterattack movie. |
| I wanted to believe, but Ple Twelve died ;_; Why do you do this to me, Gundam? I was crying like a baby. And I’ve just rewatched a couple of scenes from episode 2 and realized that Marida was forced into prostitution and had her womb surgically removed :o Or were it forced abortions? Anyway, awful. Poor girl ;_; Also, her death was likely a reference to a certain event in EoE. There’re even parallels between the characters. When the footage of the last CCA battle started to play, THAT OST…I remember it from the third movie of the original trilogy ^_^ Banagher and Full Frontal managed to see through time, just like Lalah :D Honestly, the final battle was a bit too overpowered, but I didn’t mind it that much, the emotional impact was strong. Before Full Frontal and Lalah’s spirits left for good, there was Amuro’s voice! ;_; And everything ended with a sort of symbolic speech by Mineva. After all these conflicts, it's the Zeon princess who broadcasts to the entire world at the end of the UC, as opposed to the beginning of the UC, started by the Fed politician. Didn’t expect Zimmerman to survive, actually. Some shameless nitpicking: I believe the captain asked him to assume a position on the bridge, he agreed, but stayed beside the captain anyways. After the bartender, whose home did we see? It looks like Sayla’s old home in Texas colony… Yasuhiko’s illustrations for the novel look cool as always! According to the wikipedia page on Gundam Unicorn, there’s even a prequel about Full Frontal’s origin. Though it seems like gundam wiki confirmed my expectations about him anyways. To sum up, Unicorn was a great experience, I actually thought it'd have more flaws due to my suspicions of the original author of the novels, but it managed to be pretty good and have a nice balance of action and politics, plus all the themes of UC Gundam. Many nice references and callbacks to the prequel shows that didn't feel forced, unnecessary or annoying (for the most part; I struggle with Full Frontal's whole idea as a character - was it too much? Or should I be fine with him since I like Ple a lot?); Unicorn feels like a love letter to UC. Despite my nitpicking in some episodes, it's overall a good and emotional experience (Marida ;_;), 8/10 for me, I think. Can't rate higher because of some (not major) problems, can't rate lower because it feels unfair given my enjoyment (though I share some concerns given the overpowered mobile suits and all the 3DCGI in this episode). P.S. the song from the second ED in the TV version is good. Also found out that there's a "transforming" statue of Gundam Unicorn :p Rei_III said: I hope you're ready to scale down power and size (no more humongous mechanical beast like the Sazabi or the models of this series). Of course; nothing from Unicorn ever happened regarding what comes next. ^^ I don't mind it at all,that's not the most important part for me. What matters is the execution/direction, not the precise mecha models (I'm not a mecha fanboy and my experience with the genre is pretty much limited to some very popular entries, like Gainax stuff, plus I'm planning to see some of the other influential ones, like Macross, Patlabor, Eureka Seven, etc). Though this doesn't mean I'm "blind" to good mecha designs, old Zeon mobile suits are great, especially the desert Doms, Zakus and Gelgoogs. It's just not something that is absolutely essential, I think. Though I probably wouldn't appreciate something even "bigger" than Unicorn in terms of superpowers in a real robot show. Guess I'll finish these recent series by watching NT (no high expectations, but it's just one movie, plus I'm a pathological completionist and it's hard to ignore a "sequel") and then move on to F91 and Victory, maybe after some intermission filled by another show. Regarding Turn A, is it really necessary to watch everything before it for full enjoyment? On the one hand, I want to enhance my experience if possible, on the other hand the necessity of going through several 50-ep series to get there is a bit discouraging and I wonder if it's that important. UPD: Guess I'll finish these recent series by watching NT Mistakes were made. |
St0rmbladeJul 9, 2020 11:45 AM
| Wow, is the only thing i can say for the finale.... honestly though the mecha designs for this show are the best i have ever seen after 7eps, no after coming and following the series to this point then this truly is a great addition to the series as well as new beginning for the Universal Century xD Rest in Peace, Marida Cruz. You will truly be missed T_T *salute*  |
hikky_misakiOct 30, 2020 10:27 AM
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| Damn, the part with Marida got me ;_; Loved the shit out of this Gundam. Animation, soundtrack, songs, themes and emotions made it my favorite second to War in the Pocket. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Wait, the Gryps Colony laser is still a thing? Why didn't the Federation aim at Axis to try to disentegrate it during the Neo Zeon War in CCA? Big plothole. I'm very disappointed in Marida and Zinnerman. They casually betrayed their comrades - people they had been eating with and fighting alongside with for 20 years - and are fighting against them in the name of suppressing the Sleeves' attempts to bring about true Spacenoid independence. WTF? At least Riddhe killed one of the traitors. *Yawn* 5 minute long melodramatic scene about Marida's space ghost *yawn*  Okay. According to Mineva and Syam Vist, the Federation fear the secret of Laplace's Box getting out because it promised to give power to Newtypes, and think that Spacenoids would use it as their cassus belli to rebel against the Federation. There are several things wrong with this. The vast majority of people today (at the time of Unicorn) do not know what Newtypes are, let alone know that they even exist. Only a small handful of Newtypes have been confirmed to exist: Amuro, Kamille, Judau, Lalah, Scirocco, and... um... yeah that's it. Otherwise you're looking at people who had brain surgeries, cybernetic implants, and lots of conditioning and brainwashing to gain artificial newtype powers (called cybernewtypes). Again, actual Newtypes are unheard of to anyone who isn't in the know like Bright. To most people, "Newtype" was just some gibberish a guy called Deikun spouted almost 30 years ago. What do people remember Deikun for? It's certainly not his Newtype rhetoric. No, people remember Deikun for his advocation of spacenoid independence. Newtypes never even factored into Gihren's or Haman Karn's or Char's idealogies; it was always about Spacenoid independence. The space colonies advocating for independence was always going to happen independently of the existance of Newtypes. So the "give newtypes rights" thing is irrelevant. It's not going to rally the colonies to war. Imagine if, in the 1770s, it was revealed that a clause that gave rights to wizards was revealed to have been secretly expunged from the original charter for the American colonies by the British. And hardly anyone has seen these wizards. Seriously, is THAT going to be what incites people to war? No! There were a dozen other reasons that people actually cared about that would make them go to war with Britain! But, if we accept the show's conceit that the revelation of this clause would could actually incite a spacenoid rebellion... then Mineva is up there with Char and Glemy Toto as the biggest traitors to Spacenoids, destroying their chance at true freedom from the tyranny of the Federation. "We've got this thing that could further incentivize the Federation to stop being dicks, but... we're not going to use and instead believe in the god of possibility!"  Wait a moment, Full Frontal's Sinaju was a time machine? Well why didn't he use it to go back into the past and fix the timeline! He could have gone back in time and ensured that Glemy didn't betray Haman, thus throwing away Axis' victory! He could have gone further backc and ensured that a crazy like Gihren didn't take over Zeon and go on a mass murder spree and lose the war! He could've gone back to the start of UC and ensured that the Feddies weren't dicks in the first place!  Oh please Bright, don't pretend you have a spine now. You formed AEUG to fight against the oppressive Federation only to go back and become apart of the oppressive Federation. You are the head of the NuTitans who went around attacking two colonies earlier in this show. Don't start pretending like lasering the Argama is some line that shouldn't be crossed. You committed the very same act but on a larger scale in ZZ, using the Argama's laser to nuke a civilian colony and using the exact same logic that the Vist foundation are using here!  NOOOO the Rewlooa is gone! And with it, the last of the Sleeves. The space colonies' hopes for freedom is gone. What a sorry end to the UC timeline. That guy and girl from Industrial 7 were absolutely useless in the show. Oh wow, Loni survived huh? I wonder what he will do next. Series review Too much philosophizing. If you cut out all of the extraneous navel gazing the story could've been told in 3 hours. Too much space magic nonsense. 3D CGI is bad. Everyone loses their braincells and act like idiots in the final act. Unsatisfying end to the story as nothing changes and the heroes throw away a chance to objectively improve their world. |
| Full Frontal was stopped, and better days are sure to come. I just really wish that Marida hadn't died. I cried when that happened. She'll go down as one of the best Gundam characters. I don't know if I could forgive Riddhe, but I guess he just wasn't in the right mind. At least he realized his wrongdoing, and played a big part in stopping Industrial 7 from being destroyed. This was definitely one of the best Gundam anime out there. |
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| A satisfying conclusion. Nearly teared up when I saw Char, Lalah plus hearing Amuro. |
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| truly a wonderful ending for a beautiful anime, i loved every episode, the cast, the animation and the music. i think this is definitely one of my favorite gundam anime. 10/10 |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| this was a joke, crap peace propaganda for weak people |
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"Dude! like believe in possibility bro!" Less than 3 decades later...  |
TheRestlessOneDec 27, 2023 3:15 PM
| This certainly looked epic, but for some reason I couldn't get emotionally invested in the series at all. I honestly wanted to like it, I expected to like it considering how generally well received it is. In combination with awesome soundtrack and art, no wonder it has all the potential to become a masterpiece but the story itself wasn't all that interesting and somehow overall to me, it felt lifeless. |
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