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Apr 1, 2020 1:23 AM
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Considering that this genre had reached its peak in 2012 and nothing else ever came close to it, I don't think the industry can keep milking this cookie-cutter concept anymore than they already have. Only hopes for this genre are SAO progressive anime adaptation and its deconstruction with some original anime.

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Apr 1, 2020 2:31 AM
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re zero, kono suba, will never die!!
Apr 1, 2020 2:39 AM
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As long as the target demographic enjoy it. It doesn't matter if we complain, whine or moan, the industry will keep on churning it. Best to ignore it.

Apr 1, 2020 2:41 AM
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They'll stop beating the dead horse when it stops spitting out money and not a day earlier.
Apr 1, 2020 2:45 AM
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Honestly I think it'll rise even more after re:zero s2 starts airing


Apr 1, 2020 2:49 AM
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Isekai can't die because Re:Zero S2 will rise it more.
Apr 1, 2020 2:53 AM
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i really wish they do, maybe if we stop having 2 isekais a season we can finally have one worth watching.

Apr 1, 2020 3:03 AM
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Nah, it'll be propagating more and more. Just ignore it like every other Mecha anime, eventually it'll tone down at least.
Apr 1, 2020 5:22 AM
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I hope not. I actually like isekai anime.
Apr 1, 2020 5:27 AM

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Well, I just got a notification for Isekai Quartet 3 soo...
Apr 1, 2020 5:29 AM

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Probably will go the way of the Mecha
Apr 1, 2020 5:30 AM

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I hope not. What will I trash on now? Poor SOL?
Apr 1, 2020 5:36 AM
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I'm sorry, but the true peak of isekai was in the late 90s and early 2000s. Change my mind.
Apr 1, 2020 5:38 AM

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Probably not, unfortunately. There is bunch of isekai we will see in 2020, and that trend will continue through the decade.
Apr 1, 2020 5:42 AM
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It's gonna die down but not completely, it's probably gonna be like the highschool harem romcom during 2014. Not as dominating as it used to be, but it was still very much alive.
Apr 1, 2020 5:44 AM

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full defense build to fight against hazardous element, kinda relates to our current situation.

on topic I think isekai definitely has a potential to grow a good anime without high school level of similarity.
Apr 1, 2020 5:45 AM

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No, it won't. Gotta make those shitty anime
Apr 1, 2020 6:02 AM

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There wasn't even any isekai in 2012 so how could it reach its peak?

Stop shitposting.
I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 1, 2020 7:50 AM

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I hope it doesn't since i'm a big fan of it. The more bland the protagonist the better.
Apr 1, 2020 8:34 AM
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Right now i think the only good isekai of this season is bofuri
Apr 1, 2020 8:35 AM

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Pullman said:
There wasn't even any isekai in 2012 so how could it reach its peak?

Stop shitposting.

Uhhh... Angel Beats was in 2010. Accel World was in 2012, Sword Art Online was in 2012. It wasn't at its peak as OP says but there was Isekai based on Light Novels back then... stop claiming OP is shit posting.

To answer your question OP I don't think we'll know for at least a couple of years. Trends normally carry into the new decade and changes aren't really seen until a couple years later.
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Apr 1, 2020 8:38 AM

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I hope not, Isekai is the best genre.

I hope the explosion of isekais of this year will expand further.

Shitaste said:
Considering that this genre had reached its peak in 2012

But SAO is not isekai.
bruh
Apr 1, 2020 8:46 AM
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It better it is the black plaque of the anime industry.
Apr 1, 2020 10:03 AM

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Shitaste said:
Considering that this genre had reached its peak in 2012


Exactly how did u reach that conclusion?
Apr 1, 2020 10:14 AM
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Considering the fact that isekai anime are the most successful and discussed in every season, it's fairly obvious that it's not going to end any time soon. There's alot of money constantly being produced from isekai anime for it to end. It's not a stretch to say that it heavily contributes to the anime industry economy. Isekai anime's are pretty much the most popular these days alongside the typical battle shounen in japan.
Apr 1, 2020 10:20 AM
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Pullman said:
There wasn't even any isekai in 2012 so how could it reach its peak?

Stop shitposting.
I'd say Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica is atleast partially isekai.
Apr 1, 2020 10:34 AM
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romagia said:
re zero, kono suba, will never die!!

The LN for Konosuba only has one volume left before it ends. That's one foot in the grave. Hopefully we get another season.
Apr 1, 2020 12:32 PM

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Zeroflamez said:
Pullman said:
There wasn't even any isekai in 2012 so how could it reach its peak?

Stop shitposting.

Uhhh... Angel Beats was in 2010. Accel World was in 2012, Sword Art Online was in 2012. It wasn't at its peak as OP says but there was Isekai based on Light Novels back then... stop claiming OP is shit posting.

To answer your question OP I don't think we'll know for at least a couple of years. Trends normally carry into the new decade and changes aren't really seen until a couple years later.


We were talking about 2012 specifically not 2010 so idk why you bring up Angel Beats. There was also Dunbine in '83, but I don't see how that is relevant to the argument that 2012 is the peak of the genre.
And I mean neither SAO nor Accel World are really isekai, just regular VR (the latter definitely is and SAO is temporarily similar to isekai in how the VR plays out when they're stuck there, but still VR at heart) and those are the only examples from 2012 you gave so I stand by what I said, I don't think there was a single isekai in the year 2012. Even if you count SAO, which I don't, there was just SAO.
(I guess there is one neither of us remembered which the guy below linked, but still)

In which world is a year that has like 1 legit isekai title the 'peak' for that genre? Especially since even if we accept SAO as isekai, that's only when the trend that people talk about started, before basically all the shows that make up the modern wave of isekai were even released?

I'm sorry, but by no reasonable metric can 2012 be considered any kind of 'peak of isekai'.
So yeah, I still consider OP to be shitposting. He just seems like a SAO fanboy that wants to put the show on a pedestal and made this thread as a thinly-veiled disguise for the sole purpose of glorifying SAO while shitting on the rest of the genre, most of which he probably hasn't even seen.

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Pullman said:
There wasn't even any isekai in 2012 so how could it reach its peak?

Stop shitposting.
I'd say Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica is atleast partially isekai.


Fair enough, I guess that one should count. I'd still argue that it's not nearly enough to be considered a 'peak' for isekai tho :>.
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I probably regret this post by now.
Apr 1, 2020 2:37 PM

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Pullman said:
Zeroflamez said:

Uhhh... Angel Beats was in 2010. Accel World was in 2012, Sword Art Online was in 2012. It wasn't at its peak as OP says but there was Isekai based on Light Novels back then... stop claiming OP is shit posting.

To answer your question OP I don't think we'll know for at least a couple of years. Trends normally carry into the new decade and changes aren't really seen until a couple years later.


We were talking about 2012 specifically not 2010 so idk why you bring up Angel Beats. There was also Dunbine in '83, but I don't see how that is relevant to the argument that 2012 is the peak of the genre.
And I mean neither SAO nor Accel World are really isekai, just regular VR (the latter definitely is and SAO is temporarily similar to isekai in how the VR plays out when they're stuck there, but still VR at heart) and those are the only examples from 2012 you gave so I stand by what I said, I don't think there was a single isekai in the year 2012. Even if you count SAO, which I don't, there was just SAO.
(I guess there is one neither of us remembered which the guy below linked, but still)

In which world is a year that has like 1 legit isekai title the 'peak' for that genre? Especially since even if we accept SAO as isekai, that's only when the trend that people talk about started, before basically all the shows that make up the modern wave of isekai were even released?

I'm sorry, but by no reasonable metric can 2012 be considered any kind of 'peak of isekai'.
So yeah, I still consider OP to be shitposting. He just seems like a SAO fanboy that wants to put the show on a pedestal and made this thread as a thinly-veiled disguise for the sole purpose of glorifying SAO while shitting on the rest of the genre, most of which he probably hasn't even seen.

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I'd say Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica is atleast partially isekai.


Fair enough, I guess that one should count. I'd still argue that it's not nearly enough to be considered a 'peak' for isekai tho :>.

I never said OP was correct about Isekai being at its peak in 2012. I specified that earlier. I do agree with you on Accel World but I can't agree with you on SAO. The only thing separating it from a traditional Isekai is the fact it's a VR game they're trapped in. Remove the VR and it is an Isekai. Anyway the only other show I can think of that is more of a "traditional" Isekai that came out in 2012 is Btoom! He just wakes up one day and he's in another world. Now that I re-read his post it does come off as awfully biased towards SAO. I won't deny that. However there is the possibility that when OP says it peaked in 2012 he is also including older Isekai when coming to that conclusion. Even though it is not a very likely possibility..
Apr 1, 2020 3:03 PM

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Apr 1, 2020 3:42 PM

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The original series came out 6 years earlier.

Apr 1, 2020 3:44 PM

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NEVER!!! ISEKAI BANZAI!!

I don't understand how u losers can't get lost in fantasy fulfillment like the rest of us weebs. YOU'RE TOO ATTACHED TO YOUR CURRENT REALITY! and the current reality is an epidemic trash heap. Get some help.
Apr 1, 2020 3:48 PM

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GalacticMagna said:

The original series came out 6 years earlier.


True. I don't really consider that series to be a part of the "modern isekai trend" anyway.
Apr 1, 2020 5:24 PM

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How did it reach it's peak in 2012? Also cool down yeah it probably will. It won't die though.
Apr 1, 2020 5:35 PM
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They'll stop beating the dead horse when it stops spitting out money and not a day earlier.


This. And only this. Until something fails make revenue it will always be pushed.
Apr 1, 2020 5:46 PM
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No it wont it's still massively popular.
Where there is demand supply is sure to follow.
Apr 1, 2020 5:51 PM

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no because people continue to have shit taste and watch them
Apr 1, 2020 5:52 PM

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No, it won't just suddenly disappear. Considering how many isekai we still get each season, it's won't be anytime soon.

Apr 1, 2020 5:59 PM

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Given Isekai just means escapist "another world" stories, never. What may die out is the trend to mix it with computer RPG mechanics. But odds people don't want to hear and watch stories about high/epic fantasy worlds are snowball in hell. A good share probably will also continue to be wish fulfillment, pulp fantasy is a genre popular since Moses was a boy.

Apr 3, 2020 2:05 AM

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No it is unlikely to die. Here are some proofs:

1. Shield hero got not only Season 2, but also Season 3 announced

2. Ascendence of a Bookworm was liked by many, the LN is praised. It announced a S2, which is coming out soon

3. Isekai Quartet is going strong. S3 announced

4. Cautious Hero found a good number of fans

5. Slime isekai got S2 announced. The LN is going very strong

6. Re:Zero S2 has immeasurable hype surrounding it, WN/LN readers and anime-onlys included

7. Tons of new isekai LNs coming up. They are also getting a manga adaptation, which means they are rising in popularity

8. Even Arifureta, which has a bad anime adaptation reputation, got S2 hints

9. Konosuba fans WANT more seasons. There is enough material in the LN for 5 more one-cour seasons

To sum up, isekai fans are tsunderes. They will love certain isekais and watch more of it. Then they will show their hatred for the entire genre by using repetitive terms like 'trash', 'boring MC' and 'shitty anime'. Then they will watch another one again. Watch. Hate. Repeat.

So no way Isekais are dying this decade; I won't be surprised if popular Chinese and Korean variants will get anime adaptations too in the future.
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Apr 3, 2020 5:34 AM
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I feel they just started expanding and getting famous so not in this decade.
Apr 3, 2020 6:07 AM
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Honestly, it only really started taking off (to the extent of seemingly flooding the market) last decade, though there were still entries into the genre in previous decades, even as far back as the 80s. For example, while I haven't gotten around to watching it yet (though I know it exists thanks to SRW), Dunbine comes to mind here as one of the oldest cases of the genre - It aired in '83, it was isekai (it was also a Tomino anime, and mecha at that, so make of that what you will), and so on.
Apr 3, 2020 6:52 AM

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Heavy's response: Maybe. *sniff* Maybe.



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Apr 3, 2020 7:02 AM

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only if something more successful can replace it.
we'll be stuck with isekai until then, unless the whole anime industry crashes and burns.
so expect a lot of the same garbage with small twists to keep it "fresh"...

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Dunbine comes to mind here as one of the oldest cases of the genre - It aired in '83, it was isekai (it was also a Tomino anime, and mecha at that, so make of that what you will), and so on.

I actually liked the dunbine ova, is the series anything like it?
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Apr 3, 2020 7:34 AM
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I actually liked the dunbine ova, is the series anything like it?


I haven't watched it, but it's Tomino, so I guess it depends on what aspects of the OVA you liked, and also what aspects of, say, early UC Gundam (since that's also Tomino and all) you like
Apr 3, 2020 7:38 AM

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With Hamefura this season.. new log horizon season, and SAO getting even more popular.. no, probably not.. lol XD


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Apr 3, 2020 8:18 AM

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TARDISES said:
nyugvo6 said:
I actually liked the dunbine ova, is the series anything like it?


I haven't watched it, but it's Tomino, so I guess it depends on what aspects of the OVA you liked, and also what aspects of, say, early UC Gundam (since that's also Tomino and all) you like

I liked char's personality, motives and actions.
bright as a level headed leader along with ral as a decent person.
I didn't care for amuro or the mecha aspect, and hated the newtype thing. I have to mention that I watched the compilation movies, which endedd up as a huge setback, they felt very disjointed.
I liked the super detailed bug themed mechas in the dunbine ova, the ancient tech aspect, and the science guy crossing everyone's plans, coming up as the only winner. I think what I'm trying to say here is that I don't care much about robots and military aside from looks and prefer story over action?
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Apr 3, 2020 8:27 AM

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Considering Log Horizon will have a third season in October despite season 2 being absolute fucking garbage?

I don't think so.
Apr 3, 2020 8:42 AM

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nah probably not. which i dont like because right now it feels like at least half of each season is something isekai or high fantasy themed. Like i am not the type of person to trash a genre because i personally dislike it but its getting more and more out of hand. I dont even remember those high school battle harems being that abundant. There was maybe 2-3 each season. But idk isekai its like 5 per season and more if you count other high fantasy anime. People like what they like, but i guess its annoying to see so much of a genre i personally dont care for :’)
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As long as the concept is very unique and not similar to other anime, I think the isekai trend may still survive in the 2020s.
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