| How do you feel about death? how do you experience anime deaths or IRL deaths? This thought crossed my mind because today we lost Kobe Bryant and his daughter, Gianna. A true legend and hard working human, RIP. Now I'm stuck with this question. How do you feel? |
| I would say it is similar to real life. If a character you really like or can relate to is killed, you'll feel something similar to someone you know in real life that had died. It may not be to the same degree, but is still similar. If some random character dies, it's not much different than hearing in the news about someone you don't know dying. If some character you perceive as evil gets killed, you'll likely cheer or maybe have a satisfied feeling, similar to hearing about some terrorist being killed. |
 You're never too old to watch anime. If I ever stop watching anime, check my pulse I'm likely dead. I wake up with coffee & anime, I go to sleep with coffee & anime. Sorry if my sarcasm is bad, it's not my first language. |
| It's definitely pretty similar. If a main character or a character that everyone loved died, we would be depressed or even shed tears. Same goes to real life, if a family member or a really famous celebrity, you might really sad or disappointed. However if a random character dies, then no one really cares. Same as hearing about murders on the news and just passing it off. |
fantaghost said: Death of a loved one (family member) is not comparable to death of a loved anime character. If they are, you have got some issues. I agree. There always needs to be a line from real vs. fantasy otherwise you're just gonna get false perceptions on things Besides, when a loved character dies, probably feel sad for that initial moment and a bit after you finish watching, maybe on the occasion you remember the events of the show but unlikely it's gonna severely impact the rest of your life. Death of an important loved one irl though, way more lasting |
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| I care more about the death of a loved character than the death of a random celebrity (unless it's a celebrity I cared about) if it's your question. Obviously comparing fictional characters to friends & family is quite silly. |
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| I'm lucky enough for now that I haven't lost any family members or friends close to me in all 21 years of my life but if it did happen, I would hurt me way more if it happened than any other anime character. I guess the death that hit me the most was Etika's death last June which was more painful than any other anime death. Or Kobe's as well, since I've been an NBA fan for years |
| I cry more over anime/films etc than i do over anything IRL but i get over it very quickly. When something happens IRL im just in a state of shock and left feeling sad and empty. IRL hits me a lot harder but less tears. |
| They both can be really tragic, but I think the main difference is that real deaths can hurt real families and friends more, especially if the person who died is the family’s breadwinner, or funeral costs, loss of many things can be caused by a death. A real life death, especially a loved one, is far more serious than your cute loli isekai waifu’s |
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| Death in anime usually has a point to it - not in every show, particularly more cynical ones - but often it comes at the end of a character's arc, informs about their character somehow, or at the very least serves as a motivation for the other characters. In real life, death is senseless and random. |
| Shoot first, think never. |
| As someone who has witnessed the deaths of multiple people no media can come close. You can see the life leave them and it is so chilling and sad. But my perspective is coming from someone who worked in a care facility for 4 years so I was bound to encounter death. But you are probably referring to when random people die in which I don’t really care. Hard to care about people I don’t know. |
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| In real life, I could only ever feel emotionally (sadness) for the death of someone I actually cared about and knew on an intimate level, which is in reality about 10 people - My immediate family, a few cousins, and a few close friends from over the years. In anime, I could feel distraught over someone I've never even personally met and spoken with (since that is a physical impossibility) and it means more to me emotionally than the death of people in real life I don't know. Real life deaths, since they literally happen every day, and if you watch a lot of news they are as commonplace and abundant as the air we breathe - it all just becomes a statistic and white noise. I can't say I "feel" anything emotionally if 200,000 people were to die in a nuclear exchange between military juggernauts or, more likely, a series of mega natural disasters like landslides, tsunamis and cyclones, hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, etc. And then people tend to get all morally self-righteous, faux-outraged, offended, and indignant. "How can you not show emotion or care more?!??? That's somebody's mother!!!!!" Yeah, but it isn't mine. And if it were mine I would care deeply, but wouldn't expect others to care. I don't see anything irrational or any hypocrisy in that whatsoever. To me, it's logical. Most of the sympathy people make a big production of showing over strangers' fates is phony and self-aggrandizing anyway. They're over it in five minutes. And many would rather a billion people die than even one of their own loved ones. Human nature and I don't see anything wrong with it. In real life, I don't grieve for every ant or grasshopper or wasp which dies either, and since I'm not anthropocentric, I don't see human lives as any more intrinsically valuable than theirs whatsoever. So are you going to meaningfully grieve for everyone and everything? It's physically not feasible and would bring your life to a standstill. Generally I care more and have a stronger emotional affinity and attachment to characters in art or 3D inanimate objects than flesh and blood people other than the small aforementioned handful. |
| There's very few celebrities / known figures whose deaths actually touched me. Grumpy cat being one of them. To this day I have very mixed feelings every time I see anything of our beloved Grumps. As for family deaths... so far all relatives of mine whom are dead I had a really awful bond with all my life, or they harshly distanced themselves from me in the years before they went. Now I gotta admit I don't cry easily. There's some characters whose deaths or give-ups touched me, either cause it hit closer to home than I was expecting or due to how I watched them grow over time and hoped they had bright futures ahead of them, having gotten attached to them. |
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| I had like 2 family members die and I never cried. Maybe if it was my parents i probably would. Only time I cried was when my cat died and that was the worst day of my life it was worse because I knew it was coming for like a year since he was getting older. Same with my 2nd cat. But with weeb stuff yes i sadly get extremely emotional even at dumb parts i hate to admit. Thankfully I'm the only one ever around. |
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| A fictional character dying compared to a real person dying just isn't comparable at all in my opinion. Most people that say otherwise haven't lost anyone close to them. If your favorite character dies it sucks for like a week. If someone you know or care about dies, it sucks for months and potentially longer. |
Tokyo_Icing said: How do you feel about death? how do you experience anime deaths or IRL deaths? This thought crossed my mind because today we lost Kobe Bryant and his daughter, Gianna. A true legend and hard working human, RIP. Now I'm stuck with this question. How do you feel? No, it's differrent and it depends on how attached I am to the anime character too. Here is the rank from the most severe: 1. IRL: Death of my closest person (parents, siblings) No amount of fictional character attachment could ever compare. Even years later, this day I still randomly cry when I suddenly remember it. I don't think it could ever completely heal. 2. Anime: Death of my favorite character I could spend days to weeks moping. And I need to read fix-it fanfic to ease it. I need contents and output before I can move on. Sometimes I cry when I randomly remember about it. It lasts for years, but I know ways to ease it (by reading AU fanfic where the character doesn't die, or just rewatch, or read doujinshi). 3. IRL: Death of celebrity I'm a fan of So far, I guess the closest celebrity that I'm a fan of died was Chester Bennington. I'm not that much of a fan but I guess I was so sad, especially knowing what caused it. Idk what will I feel if Sebastian Stan died. Hopefully never have to experience it. It only lasted for a moment. 4. IRL: Death of famous people If it's only famous people that I have no attachment to, I just feel sorry. ? Anime: Death of my husbando. I haven't experienced this and hopefully will never have to. In case you're wondering, my husbando is Trafalgar Law and Bakugou Katsuki. |
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| I think they are quite different. Death in real life you can't come back from but in anime characters can be brought back to life. I also think that death in real life holds a lot more weight than in anime because it's not like the voice actor died, just the character they were playing, but in real life we are both the voice actor and the character. |
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| It goes from at least a bit of sympathy to suicidal thoughts when it is a death from real life to me. As for films in general, it goes from not caring at all to emotionally devastating. Thats the difference for me. #RIPMamba |
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| It depends on how attached to the character I was. Like Koro-sensei. |
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| For me, a death in the real world is always going to be more painful than a death of an anime character. I can become incredibly attached to a character and if they die I will be quite sad. But in the end, it's a fictional character. An anime character, unlike a real person's death, isn't something I'm going to be overly depressed about. |
| You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become irrelevant. |
| For me, some celebrity I didn't really connect with wouldn't illicit the same reaction that a character I was really invested in would. |
| I guess anime deaths hit me harder because i can actually see the character speak their last words and feel the sadness as opposed to a death of a random celebrity that i never met(sorry i don´t care for celebrities).My opinion of that is that celebrites are meant to put up a persona so you as an ordinary person theoretically can never get to know them personally,so it´s impossible for me to feel anything.And also plus the fact that the show gives me the opportunity to be emotionally invested in that fictional character throughout its run.Wether i care about a character´s death depends on several factors though,mainly through context(why the character is dying),and how attached i am to that character. I never had someone close to die so i probably wouldn't know how to handle it at first. |
SummerynJan 26, 2020 10:48 PM
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| If an anime character you love dies you feel pretty sad, if someone you love in real life dies, you feel 100x worse than you ever will with an anime character. |
| Lol different ofc. Sure I might feel really sad if my favorite character dies in a tragic way, but it's not comparable to a real person dying. Even if I'm not close to said person, just the thought of what their loved ones are going through makes me feel like shit. Anime characters don't have that. And this comes from someone who has cried for hours over anime characters dying lol |
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WatchTillTandava said: In real life, I could only ever feel emotionally (sadness) for the death of someone I actually cared about and knew on an intimate level, which is in reality about 10 people - My immediate family, a few cousins, and a few close friends from over the years. In anime, I could feel distraught over someone I've never even personally met and spoken with (since that is a physical impossibility) and it means more to me emotionally than the death of people in real life I don't know. Real life deaths, since they literally happen every day, and if you watch a lot of news they are as commonplace and abundant as the air we breathe - it all just becomes a statistic and white noise. I can't say I "feel" anything emotionally if 200,000 people were to die in a nuclear exchange between military juggernauts or, more likely, a series of mega natural disasters like landslides, tsunamis and cyclones, hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, etc. And then people tend to get all morally self-righteous, faux-outraged, offended, and indignant. "How can you not show emotion or care more?!??? That's somebody's mother!!!!!" Yeah, but it isn't mine. And if it were mine I would care deeply, but wouldn't expect others to care. I don't see anything irrational or any hypocrisy in that whatsoever. To me, it's logical. Most of the sympathy people make a big production of showing over strangers' fates is phony and self-aggrandizing anyway. They're over it in five minutes. And many would rather a billion people die than even one of their own loved ones. Human nature and I don't see anything wrong with it. In real life, I don't grieve for every ant or grasshopper or wasp which dies either, and since I'm not anthropocentric, I don't see human lives as any more intrinsically valuable than theirs whatsoever. So are you going to meaningfully grieve for everyone and everything? It's physically not feasible and would bring your life to a standstill. Generally I care more and have a stronger emotional affinity and attachment to characters in art or 3D inanimate objects than flesh and blood people other than the small aforementioned handful. Totally agreee,i'm really sick of people trying to force others to feel grieve for something they don't give damn about.To me,celebrities are people i don't know,so i have no reason to care.Scratch that,I need my anime characters to escape humanity in general so of course i will be more attached to them than other humans that i never talked to in my lifetime. Let me enjoy my 2D anime characters and don´t blame me for hating humans for how shitty they are.At least i don´t feel obligated to put up a facade pretending how much i cared about the person while they were alive when i only started giving two shits when the person in question died just to gain brownie points.Authenticity is dead.If you don´t feel bad,rest assured you are going to be deemed a terrible,insensitive human being. At least people with some sort of common sense like you exist,thank you for making that post.I wouldn´t have been able to express my true feelings without someone who agreed with what i had to say. |
SummerynJan 27, 2020 6:55 AM
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FoxFire75 said: Let's put it this way - if I am that emotionally invested, I will be sad and cry a lot. That is the same for fictional characters and rl people. If I don't have any emotional ties to a rl person, no matter if they are a random stranger on TV or a family member, than I won't really care, sorry. Yep,exactly.I can´t relate to all the people so affected by something that has no impact on their lives. |
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| I don't care. The only death I ever cared about was the death of my beloved Bowie-sensei-sama-senpai-san-sama |
| I can't find a real-life death and the death of an anime character comparable in the slightest. Sure, I'd be sad if a favourite character passed away in a series I am watching, but it sure as hell wouldn't be compared to an IRL death. People who I barely knew who have passed I still go into a state of shock and immense sadness. The better I know them, the worse my emotions will be. Anime characters will always remain fictional regardless of their status. They never existed in the first place as a living, breathing person and I won't treat them as such. |
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Missaliensan said: Totally agreee,i'm really sick of people trying to force others to feel grieve for something they don't give damn about.To me,celebrities are people i don't know,so i have no reason to care.Scratch that,I need my anime characters to escape humanity in general so of course i will be more attached to them than other humans that i never talked to in my lifetime. Let me enjoy my 2D anime characters and don´t blame me for hating humans for how shitty they are.At least i don´t feel obligated to put up a facade pretending how much i cared about the person while they were alive when i only started giving two shits when the person in question died just to gain brownie points.Authenticity is dead.If you don´t feel bad,rest assured you are going to be deemed a terrible,insensitive human being. At least people with some sort of common sense like you exist,thank you for making that post.I wouldn´t have been able to express my true feelings without someone who agreed with what i had to say. Well, I'm glad you say so and that it gave you a boost in that regard, and likewise, I find myself in complete agreement and affinity with the sentiments you express above, Missaliensan. But you should never be afraid of speaking your mind. Never ever. The world never changes until enough folks, who very well may be in the minority, become fearless about speaking their minds and contradicting the consensus/herd view where and when necessary. If only to create a microscopic ripple by putting the fresh and lesser seen ideas out into the open and get people thinking, and to fight back against the domination of the majority-expressed view from being accepted as a universal truth which represents us all when it doesn't. And even if you don't change any demonstrable thing in the real world, anyone's actions, or even a single mind, it's worth it anyway as a testament to what's in your mind and heart, which is just as worthy of being heard as any other, even when standing alone. |
| I'm gonna just assume this is just about people who you don't have a personal connection to, but I still wouldn't compare them at all whatsoever. A person's life is just gone, and most people that do die will have those that mourn for them, I'm sure as hell not gonna put any anime deaths on that same level. You're free to not care about all these deaths, but don't treat it like the situation doesn't have gravity, it isn't just two options of either caring or not caring. |
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FlowersInTheRain said: I was mostly talking about the general idea of death between anime and IRL lmaoThis is stupid. An anime character can always be written back to life somehow. A real person is gone forever. Get that through your heads. |
| Not even close to being comparable, even if i like the characters that die i maybe cry and feel a little sad but thats it and even that only happens if the series very great and i somehow relate or like the character. Not even close to death in irl, i mean the characters dont exist irl, well i dont care when some celeb dies but if we talk close people... |
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| I don't know, I'm very sad when a fav character dies, a certain scene in Parasyte made me cry. It's the sam irl, if I knew that person I would be sad but I don't, I wouldn't. For me, the death of Johan Cruyff and Tito Vilanova deatroyed my soul (if we're talking about distant celebs sorta). |
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| Lol, this is simply extraordinary. I’m speechless. |
| To judge others by your own standard is the height of folly. |
| Threads like this will always bring out the sociopaths lol. I think it's a difference of kind rather than degree when it comes to our feelings for fictional characters vs. real people. The emotions might be expressed more openly and in-the-moment with fiction but it's obviously not the same experience. I don't care about celebrities but a guy died with along with his daughter and another with his whole family it seems. You don't have to feel sad yourself to understand that it is a tragedy. |
| I get death in anime since its about characters that I've spent time getting to know. Death in real life is irrelevant to me unless its concerning people I care about. Even if its someone I know of or know personally if I don't care about them, then their death is irrelevant to me. |
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| People I am related to I am sad for a while, less for anime deaths. American movie and tv deaths all I do is laugh. Clannad ruined me forever. |
| Completely different. Death's in anime usually have a dramatic element to them. Deaths in real life just happen. |
FlowersInTheRain said: But they are a human being. As opposed to a hippopotamus being or a hydrangea bretschneideri being? Not everyone is anthropocentric and believes one has any more intrinsic value than the other for any reason. I know if you're raised and believe firmly in a different worldview this might seem alien and strange, radical, or like I'm making a joke or having a go at you, but I'm 100% dead serious. From where I'm standing, the position you express in this thread, placing the value of another human being's life you don't even know at the center of the universe is what is foreign and unrelatable to me. I'm sure that's what you believe if you're expressing it here in such adamant and earnest terms, and I have no reason to doubt your sincerity, but you'll have to accept whether now or at some point down the line that not everyone feels the same way and there are others who think and feel differently (on this subject and likely many others where there exist clear core value differences). FlowersInTheRain said: What happened to them could happen to me or you or any of us. This sounds like a selfish reason for concern rather than an altruistic one motivated by genuine care for the stranger, like you care insofar as the implications it has for oneself. This seems to be what motivates a lot of human expressions of care/grief for the death or sorrow of anonymous parties - "It could be me next." It's a fear response, one driven by existential dread and the kind of self reinforcing biological hardwiring on autopilot of at least keeping an outward appearance of care for other members of the species for their fate could be your own. FlowersInTheRain said: And the people who did know that person are hurting. Logically, there are people hurting every second of every day from not just death but disease and chronic pain, crushing poverty, crime, war, and natural calamities. People just choose to "care" about what is convenient to them for five seconds and then expect a reaffirming pat on the back for it. But people die every single day and you don't even know about most of them. And you explicitly or tacitly accept not knowing as part of the convenience of going about your own daily life, putting your own needs and comforts above even the knowledge of most of those deaths. FlowersInTheRain said: But people are real and if something tragic happens I will say yes that thing that happened is awful and I am sad that this occurred. Which is the standard social etiquette response. But something being the dominant social etiquette of today or any era never makes it inherently right or based in any logic or truth. You say "it's awful and you're sad that this occurred". To me this sounds fake, robotic, and mechanical, like you're going through a scripted set of motions that are pre-established/preordained. It doesn't seem based in any real organic genuine emotion and feeling within you. You're sad about it? How sad are you really? Are you sadder than if you suffered even the most minor and trivial personal loss? Then what are you going to do about it, if anything? The answer to that last question in 99.999% of people's cases is "Well...absolutely nothing." And these aren't just rhetorical questions. They matter because you seem to believe anyone claiming sadness out of desire to adhere to social protocol even when it's a non-commital and usually insincere type of response makes them a morally superior actor to those who are just honest with themselves and the world,. |
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