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ZaviieR said: so, Waseda and Wota is already married in real life? I heard Waseda is the author right? Nope it's the other way around. Read my post at #16 |
| Okay, seriously this is an unexpected episode. This is the best episode in terms on strong feelings, TP turned out to be Waseda and since Wota loves him he takes him as her rival in terms of being popular. I'm still not sure on what kind of love Wota feels on Waseda, but it is obviously love for music, I don't know if it is greater than that. Just glad it didn't turned out to be in a romantic route, also the peanut guy was a good guy also a funny one. |
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| Woah @garyborken that's some real shitz! Will we see Wota X Waseda one day, even if it's canon? For now we can only ship SOOOO hard on this. Regardless... "Can I say something amazing?" - Baka "Ch-ri-st-ma-PE" - Robo Well, we're closing onto the end, this comedic journey is almost over. Didn't expect this episode to go full-on serious about the journey of Akane "Wota" Kikuchi to Teishotoku-P (which is Waseda, known last episode), and holy moly, aside from the weird aspects happening in the background, it felt like a satisfying story from start to end. I'm actually impressed it managed to pull off a stunt that works in benefit and favour. Plus the IRL figures that make actual sense about this obsession. Music, fandom and dreams. Literally awaiting the moment they saw each other face to face, from fandom to reveals. Plus the peanut man next to Waseda is just so random, it works. All those emotions and feels make and break hearts, the most to Wota, that is passed onto us. Seriously, good stuff before the finale! |
KANLen09Sep 14, 2019 6:33 PM
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| I already predicted that they will meet each other, because last week, Wota start to curious about her favourite vocaloid artist. But damn great, I don't expect they will made it very emotional and awesome like this. Wow, something that unexpected because this anime mostly at Slice of Life and Comedy. Am I ship Wota and Waseda ? Yeah ! In fact, if Waseda can wait until Wota graduate, then voila, she just entering Waseda's type, a College Girl. In other hand, Wota is so mature with that make up, that's beautiful. Of course, don't forget my favourite Majo girl. No, nobody likes Alpaca's Fetus. And bullseye prediction from her, too. But I still don't get the last card that Majo show to us. |
| This episode was so good and made me like wota even more.I was afraid that they might end the story on a comedy but they nailed it here and ended on a high note. I sure am going to miss the series once it ends. This is one of those SoL done right. |
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| does anyone know when the songs/osts that were played during this episode and before are going to be out? |
| "Even if it has good reviews, if I don't like it then it is shit" -Some random anime character |
| By the way Tomato sung that song already 3 years ago |
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| Best episode. Honestly, didn't expect a feels train from this show. I was waiting for the punchline at first but when Waseda followed Wota, I was like "Don't you dare ruin this moment with a joke!" and I'm glad they didn't. This episode confirmed the best girl (Wota) for me. Waseda x Wota when? Edit: Just checked the above posts. So their ship sailed irl, huh? That was a nice move from Bino, the author. She seems to love her husband a lot :) |
RenkiniSep 15, 2019 10:36 AM
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| What a positive love story. Pretty good. |
| For someone who can't handle heights well, Yamai can sure climb. |
A Wild and Small Otaku has Appeared! |
Apparently the author thought it's not sweet enough already and tweeted this  Basically said the reason she started creating manga and music is because she wanted the story in episode 11 to reach more people. So, does that mean it's based on true story!? |
| OMG, Akane is super cute dressed up. Also, this episode is really nice, loved the interactions and courage to come forward and being honest. The songs are really nice too. ___ ___ ___ What surprised me the most is... apparently this episode is based on real life events with some modifications. |
| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
| This might be the episode that produces least laughs... but this episode was all about the reveal of Teishotoku P as sensei and of course Wota reaction! that weating dude was revolting! 5/5. |
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| I prefer the comedy. |
| Wow, Akane is very beautiful here in this episode. I always knew she was the most beautiful in the series because of her fashion and personality. I just notice that she also wear the shortest skirt in the series. Best episode of the series. Although I don't ship Akane and sensei, lol. I hope Akane like to him is just like a girl who like her favorite kpop artist. I mean, you can't like a person just only because you like one of his thousand personalities. Theres a better guy for her in the future. Edit: Wow, I just read the entire forum and theres a lot of people here shipping them two. I actually hate young x old couple in anime. Like in Not being nit picky but theyre ruining the show and I hate it if theres a couple like that lol. No hate for those old guys who find young girls in real life but its just wrong to date them if your age gap is too far. |
GazzSep 17, 2019 4:38 AM
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Lkmmao said: In real life there are three people involve, the real life Waseda who composes song, the manga author and the Waseda's fan who sang the cover. The manga character Wota is actually inspired by the author and the fan. I don't think that's the case, the "Akane version" of 16:20 was merely 2 years old, it's clearly a publicity move that's supposed to go along with the publish of that chapter, just like "Little rabbit" If you ask me, the the "Akane version" is just part of the recreation. |
| @Gazz You say so, as if Waseda is a 40-year-old balding man, and Wota is a 13-year-old girl. |
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Lkmmao said: This is the real Akane Twitter account https://twitter.com/Poooooh0404 and it is still very active. She had no idea why all of a sudden she got many followers recently. If they create a separate Twitter account, a separate niconico account with songs dated back to 2014 just for making this manga then I have nothing to say. I prefer to believe in the simple, clear fact and not speculating too much. Don't you think they just asked a friend form the niconico community to lend her voice? Here in the description of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjta2VEYkrU you can clearly see the credit for akane is under the "次元の壁", basically means the 4th wall, which is also the place where they put all the advertising link for the manga and stuff. Also, she's credited as "akaneの中の人" not simply "akane", and "中の人" means the one who plays a character, usually used in the context like a voice actor, or suit actor for monster or mascot, basically someone who "act" without showing themselves. And finally, the time line won't add up if it's your case, the author said she started creating manga and music is because she wanted the story in episode 11 to reach more people, FIVE years ago: |
garyborkenSep 17, 2019 11:38 AM
garyborken said: Lkmmao said: This is the real Akane Twitter account https://twitter.com/Poooooh0404 and it is still very active. She had no idea why all of a sudden she got many followers recently. If they create a separate Twitter account, a separate niconico account with songs dated back to 2014 just for making this manga then I have nothing to say. I prefer to believe in the simple, clear fact and not speculating too much. Don't you think they just asked a friend form the niconico community to lend her voice? Here in the description of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjta2VEYkrU you can clearly see the credit for akane is under the "次元の壁", basically means the 4th wall, which is also the place where they put all the advertising link for the manga and stuff. Also, she's credited as "akaneの中の人" not simply "akane", and "中の人" means the one who plays a character, usually used in the context like a voice actor, or suit actor for monster or mascot, basically someone who "act" without showing themselves. And finally, the time line won't add up if it's your case, the author said she started creating manga and music is because she wanted the story in episode 11 to reach more people, FIVE years ago: Let me summarize this, the original question is "Waseda and Wota is already married in real life?" My answer is no, as in the anime Wota is 低所得P fan, the one who sang the cover and also the manga artist to be, but IRL the person who sang the cover is not the same person as the manga artist. This doesn't contradict any of the material you've presented. Is Poooooh0404 = Akane = 低所得P fan? I believe so as this is what she wrote in a niconico video: akaneです。 初めて歌ってみたに挑戦してみました。 低所得ｐさんの大ファンです。これからもずっと応援しています。 Does Akane has any relationship with that couple? I believe so as the manga artist created the Twitter icon for her. Finally, the timeline bit. The manga was published on 2015Dec, Akane's account dated back to 2014, she started covering 低所得P song on 2016Jan and 16:20 was published on 2016Nov. The manga which Wota coveres 16:20 was published on 2017. So my interpretation is that the author created a character 5 years ago using herself and also a fan of her husband's music as a reference back in 2015. Then Akane made the cover and inspired her to include it in the manga on 2017. I think you when you say there is a timeline conflict, it is referring to "Wota was inspired by two person". My understanding originally it wasn't, however the end product of Wota you see today, her story is inspired by two person (or maybe more but I will never know) along the way. |
Lkmmao said: Is Poooooh0404 = Akane = 低所得P fan? I believe so as this is what she wrote in a niconico video: akaneです。 初めて歌ってみたに挑戦してみました。 低所得ｐさんの大ファンです。これからもずっと応援しています。 You do realized that the 16:20 Ver.akane on niconico was upload by the account of Bino (aka author), and has the SAME description as the youtube one right? https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30064212 So basically everything I just said again: garyborken said: you can clearly see the credit for akane is under the "次元の壁", basically means the 4th wall, which is also the place where they put all the advertising link for the manga and stuff. Also, she's credited as "akaneの中の人" not simply "akane", and "中の人" means the one who plays a character, usually used in the context like a voice actor, or suit actor for monster or mascot, basically someone who "act" without showing themselves. Lkmmao said: Finally, the timeline bit. The manga was published on 2015Dec, Akane's account dated back to 2014, she started covering 低所得P song on 2016Jan and 16:20 was published on 2016Nov. The manga which Wota coveres 16:20 was published on 2017. Again, it's not Akane's account, it's just a friend lending her voice, had it been like how you said there's no reason for her to be credited as such. And you are completely ignoring that the storyline with Wota and Teishotoku-P was already in the manga, and was clearly building up to something already. And I don't know where you got the "The manga which Wota coveres 16:20 was published on 2017." part, all we have is the publish date of the trade paperback, and the manga is first published here: https://comic.webnewtype.com/contents/joshikosei/ Unfortunately everything include in a trade paperback is hidden and we cant dig it up. |
garyborkenSep 17, 2019 2:20 PM
RobertBobert said: @Gazz You say so, as if Waseda is a 40-year-old balding man, and Wota is a 13-year-old girl. The average teachers age in Japan (atleast according to google) is 39 years old. ALT teachers are quite young, the average age is around 22 if you are recruited outside of Japan. It is older if you are hired from within Japan, roughly 33 years old or so. So this means they prefer fresh young faces - a 45 year old applicant would find this to be tough sledding or nearly impossible. Its obvious that Waseda is not 22 years old "fresh grad straight to work" because he is already a homeroom teacher. Assuming he is smart and start teaching at the age of 22, he will be a homeroom teacher at about 26 or 27 (he can be 30 if he started at around 25. That in my opinion is more realistic). According to here, Akane is a first year high school so her age should be 15 to 16. TLDR, I get it that he is not that old. Still I don't ship them. lol |
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RobertBobert said: Raikiri29 said: I hope Wota x Waseda is in your two cannonical ships. A really great episode and as I said, I hope a romance between them when Wota is a college girl and becomes a mangaka. I mean Lily x Majime and Wota x Waseda. I'm not sure that Majime will return her feelings, but Lily's crush is not ambiguous. But as for the other two, yes. I don't want to speculate, but the author, it seems to me, clearly loves their ship tease. What about Robo and that Takanashi guy? |
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Maruko-san said: RobertBobert said: I mean Lily x Majime and Wota x Waseda. I'm not sure that Majime will return her feelings, but Lily's crush is not ambiguous. But as for the other two, yes. I don't want to speculate, but the author, it seems to me, clearly loves their ship tease. What about Robo and that Takanashi guy? If you're talking about that guy from episode 10, then frankly, I don’t remember that in the manga. |
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Lkmmao said: Alright I think I get what you mean now. You are saying that the video description is actually said from 菊池茜, Wota's prospective, hence the part where I said Wota is inspired by two person is wrong. For this, I found a following comment from the singer, "ビーノさんがお書きになっている『女子高生の無駄づかい』という漫画に出てくる 『菊池茜(ヲタ)』として歌わせていただきました！！ とても素敵に仕上げていただいたので是非聴いてください(*´˘`*)♡ １６：２０を歌ってみたVer.akane【sm30064212】" So I stand corrected on this. Okay, great you got it, I don't know why you need to go that extra mile to get it but good. Lkmmao said: So for me, while 低所得P IRL is pretty much the 低所得P in the manga except he is a public servant and not a teacher, the character Wota is not ビーノ and also that's no evidence saying that's how they met. That's what I wanted to emphasize from the beginning. Here's another part you got wrong: IRL Teishotoku-P isn't Teishotoku-P in Manga, as I post at #16, or you can see here: https://twitter.com/bambi_no_3/status/1171710918075437056?s=20 Teishotoku-P is an account run by both the author and her husband, they go though the creativity process together, as its shown in that tweet. This is the piapro link of Teishotoku-P that Teishotoku-P s in all the Teishotoku-P niconico video description: https://piapro.jp/content_list/?pid=T_shotok&view=audio You can clearly see "Teishotoku-P" started their activity on 2015, basically when the manga started, the account and identity of "Teishotoku-P" IRL is a companion piece to the manga. What is clear is that Wota is the author's self insert, and Waseda is based on her husband. So the answer to the question: "Waseda and Wota is already married in real life?" should be either a simple a big "yes", Or "they are not real, therefore the question is invalid" Of course, nobody is claiming IRL things happened exactly like the manga, especially it won't be with the same real songs, since "Teishotoku-P"something created along side the manga . But according to the tweet that I posted twice already, something similar must have happened. Gazz said: ...Assuming he is smart and start teaching at the age of 22, he will be a homeroom teacher at about 26 or 27 (he can be 30 if he started at around 25. That in my opinion is more realistic)... Well, in his manga debut, his name tag/speech bubble thing stated he's 27. And sure, 11 or 12 years is a gape alright, but it's really not that big of a deal if we add 10 years to both of them. Just saying it's kinda weak if all your reasoning against it is solely the age (which might not be the case but you are the one who keeps emphasizing on it.) |
garyborkenSep 18, 2019 2:57 AM
| this episode was by far the best from this anime |
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| This show has no business being so heartwarming haha |
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GenesisAria said: This show has no business being so heartwarming haha I know... this episode was such a surprise lol |
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| I have to say I don't like where this is going, a teacher's job is to teach his female students, not fu** them, hopefully this relationship won't develop beyond Wota just liking his songs. |
| Akane singging was so wonderfull! Akane was extremely cute and adorable! I am glad Wakabe was honest with her! |
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| Realy love this episode |
| a gorgeous episode. more on the mature side but still, it was awesome. looking forward to the next one. hopefully this anime will get a second season. |
objkenkage said: I have to say I don't like where this is going, a teacher's job is to teach his female students, not fu** them, hopefully this relationship won't develop beyond Wota just liking his songs. I think we just found our "Monster Parent" in here. |
| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
amlg said: you make it sound like it's normal if the teacher ends up in a sexual relatiionhip with one of his underage students, in the real world this is considered pedophilia regardless of wether the two consented to it or not.objkenkage said: I have to say I don't like where this is going, a teacher's job is to teach his female students, not fu** them, hopefully this relationship won't develop beyond Wota just liking his songs. I think we just found our "Monster Parent" in here. now I myself don't oppose fanservice infact I love it, however a sexual relationship between Waseda & Wota would go beyond just fanservice. |
| I've just re-watched the whole show after watching episode 12. The whole situation between Waseda and Wota is something else, from the hairdresser song scene to the end. It's totally original, deeply human, and masterfully directed. It's also just as funny as the rest (think of the peanut guy alone), only everything else overshadows the humor. I'm glad to see how the score has rocketed (7.72 as of this writing). |
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| I used to listen to TeishotokuP way before this anime. That's why the Akane ver of 16:20 really surprised me. It was up on YouTube since 2016 with the title having "akane ver" in it. Who could have guessed lol. It was one of the best episode so far. |
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objkenkage said: amlg said: you make it sound like it's normal if the teacher ends up in a sexual relatiionhip with one of his underage students, in the real world this is considered pedophilia regardless of wether the two consented to it or not.I think we just found our "Monster Parent" in here. now I myself don't oppose fanservice infact I love it, however a sexual relationship between Waseda & Wota would go beyond just fanservice. I think you missed the point of Waseda's big rant of not liking high-school girls cuz he rather like young college ladies in their smart college attire. It's just his savage way to tell everyone that he don't approve any relationship between an adult man and underage girl most especially a teacher to his young students, because such things is immoral and will be quite messy. In the manga Wota is starting to have a crush on Waseda but wants nothing to do anything further than that, at least, she tells herself, until graduated and became a college student as an adult. In the manga Waseda is rather a competent and very responsible teacher who would go out of his way to help his student even out off school. Even Loli thinks of him like a father figure. |
| YAY I read the manga chapter this adapts and I loved it so I am happy. Nothing can beat this, damn Akane you are so cute! |
| I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something. People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English. |
| WHY THE F*** AM I CRYING? GDI THIS SHOW. I really liked this episode. Wota is lowkey my favorite, so I was like, "Wow, this episode's first part's focusing on Wota!" And then suddenly the ED started playing. Like sdkdjfksjhg this episode went by so fast. ;A; I wish Wota luck! Also, I was waiting on the punchline and am super satisfied that they played this episode straight. |
objkenkage said: amlg said: you make it sound like it's normal if the teacher ends up in a sexual relatiionhip with one of his underage students, in the real world this is considered pedophilia regardless of wether the two consented to it or not.I think we just found our "Monster Parent" in here. now I myself don't oppose fanservice infact I love it, however a sexual relationship between Waseda & Wota would go beyond just fanservice. Dont generalize something, if there's 1 case teacher marry student doesnt mean everyone doing that. also their relationship still need development maybe 1-2 years to grow based from their personality, its not like a hentai plot that meet then fvck. Also in 3-4 years later they're not teacher and student anymore, they're used to be teacher and student but their status is normal human being. age is not a wall if both recognize each other. |
| That was strange development for this kind of anime. It was nice, but until the very end I expected some comedic twist. |
| Wota finally met Teishoku P, must say it was quite an emotional and serious episode with the jokes casually put in I cracked up seeing that 'mute conversation' To think Waseda and Wota are based on the author and her husband makes me want to ship them |
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| Such a heart-tugging episode this! Easy 10/10! Wota being in a bind there and losing her composure as a result of the shocking revelation was brilliantly handled, super stuff! I think re-watching the show has made me appreciate this episode, in particular, a little more. Sweet little messages from both sides too! Love really is a mystery, innit Wota? She sure said a lot of stuff, props to that fat musician for the assisr. Sensei muting the chat though, lmfao so subtle. Gorgeous song in the background though and some really good visuals to boot! Especially loved the bit on Yamamoto on top of the Christmas Tree. How on Earth does she manage to get up there in the first place xD? Wota's cover song was really good too, funny how the two sides completely meant different things though. Gosh, that barber really loves cats, doesn't he? All round, super episode! I think I was a little half-half on this episode on my previous watch but it was top-notch simply this time around! |
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RobertBobert said: Escaethorne said: Wonder if this'll actually have romance. Guess I have to read the manga. The original manga has at least two canonical ships. Three, if you interpret Majime's admiration as romantic. Oh what might those two be |
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