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Recynon Sep 26, 11:23 AM
The episodic story structure in the beginning was fine because each episode was focused on establishing characters and character relationships. Where the plot was weak was near the end, where the focus entirely shifted away from the plot and towards introspection. As I said in my review, the characters are all there to stand in for psychological tropes--- they're only defined by their internal struggles and are not given well rounded characterization. Hence, it's not that Shinji whines or that Asuka is too overbearing, but that Shinji always whines and Asuka is always overbearing. I wasn't too happy about how Misato turned out either, as for some reason she kisses a 14 year old, but I do think she was the best character in the series because on top of her internal struggles, she shows many different sides to herself and isn't just acting depressed all the time.

I was referring to the movie ending before. As for the original ending, I think it has the effectiveness of an inspirational quote you see on the internet. It embodies what I said--- the show spends most of its time setting up the conflict and 10% of its time resolving the conflict. For an internal conflict like depression, that's not something that you can help by just having two episodes expositing hope. That feels like a bandaid solution because it's telling and not showing. Wow, I wish I could just tell depressed people to value themselves and try their best and send them off. What Eva needed to do was spend at least 10 episodes showing the trio's slow journey to getting better. Not being fully healed, because that's a lot to ask for, but at least show them struggling, relapsing, and eking out small victories. By the time the show is over, the viewer feels like the show does a good enough job acknowledging how hard it is but at the same time progression is possible, so that the show has the right to transmit the message of hope. So now if I'm depressed, I watch the show, I'll still be depressed, but seeing the characters struggle on the road to getting better and making progress inspires me to keep trying.

Haven't watched asobi asobase precisely because it looks like a cute girls anime, and I despise everything cutesy. Like, this stuff right here:
https://tenor.com/view/asobi-asobase-happy-excited-gif-13298433. I can't stand stuff like this. However, if you insist, I'll give it a try and perhaps this will change my mind about the whole thing.

EDIT: I watched some clips of asobi asobase. The humor is definitely darker than most anime but I'm still iffy about the cutesy style. I think I would've loved this if the girls were drawn differently and talked differently.

Recynon Sep 25, 4:48 PM
On the contrary I think Eva was good for about 2/3 of its run before they really started delving deeper and deeper into the depression, which I found to be pointless because most of the conflict was already explained in the first part, but in the second part they had to spell it out for you. The finale's answer was that living is better than dying, basically, so that's why you should keep trying, which I don't think is a very convincing answer.

Cover art is definitely a factor, if you know how to read visual language. Unlike with book covers, the cover art for anime tells you a lot about what the anime is going to be like. It's why I posted my Pinterest link, to show that the type of shows I like are going to match my visual aesthetic both in looks and spirit.

The Big O isn't really a mecha anime. It's a noir anime with mechas tacked on.

Samurai Jack was entirely episodic but Season 5 had a continuing storyline.
Recynon Sep 25, 4:24 PM
It's not exactly that I watch anime just for its ideas or to get it done--- like I said, having good ideas but bad execution does nothing for me. I'll watch stuff for the cool factor, like The Big O. Other than that I'm usually looking for a nuanced, well established conflict and an equally well executed resolution. Something like Neon Genesis Evangelion does the first part very well but doesn't do the second part. Going through lists is relatively fast for me because 95% of the time I can tell whether or not I'm going to like it from the aesthetic of the cover art. Finding the top reviewers is not hard because you see their reviews pop up everywhere and they're usually well written.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

The Big O's first season is a post-war noir episodic mystery with mecha fights capping off each episode. It has a really unique ambience and atmosphere, owing to its Western art style and spectacular soundtrack. At times it feels like Cowboy Bebop, because there's a heavy nostalgic feeling, Roger is voiced by Steve Blum, and Dawstun looks like Jet Black. In the second season, Chiaki Konaka is given full control and of course he drives the show off a cliff with his cryptic symbolism, confusing events, and the same old evolution of humanity idea that is in his every work. Still, it's worth checking out for the first season and for its unique aesthetic.

Samurai Jack didn't get remade, it got a season 5, which was pretty good except the second half was too rushed. I think you should still watch it, especially since there's an alternate ending.


Recynon Sep 25, 10:34 AM
Ah, I see that our difference lies in the time period we started watching anime. When you were watching, there was probably less anime criticism and top 100 lists than when I started. When I started, I cross referenced Top 100 Lists and the animelists of all major reviewers on this site and read reviews on each potential candidate. Eventually I literally went down MAL's top 3000 anime, from the highest rated ones down to 6.7, just to be sure. Yes, very time consuming, but not nearly as time consuming as going through shows by chance.

As for 300 anime covering all the ideas out there, it could, if those 300 are all the anime with the new ideas. Even so, it's impossible to be exhaustive. But then you think about how many anime have new ideas and then manage to execute them well, and that list narrows down considerably. I also thought that it was important to expose myself to all the ideas in anime, but now I think that it's very inefficient to learn things by watching 26 episode long series, especially since stories as a medium are limited in depth--- not that stories can't be deep, but nonfiction books are much more suited to thorough discussions of the subject. Thus, I think the primary reason for watching anime or stories in general is for the characters or if there is some big theme, how that theme applies to people. You can't have a story without a character.

I was actually going to ask you for recommendations, as I can't access your 900 count anime list (it would be great if I could see it). For the same reason, it's hard for me to make recommendations for you because I don't know what you've seen and what you haven't. For anime, I think the best way would be for you to sort my watched list by score and go down the list, and if something interests you, check it out. Everything 8 and above should be decent. This is because if you're just looking for good anime, I have a lot to recommend, but at the same time, it seems you're mainly interested in comedies and SOL dramas whereas I primarily look into everything else besides that, so our tastes are different and and I don't want to lead you in with expectations.

That being said, if you're looking for weird, different, unknown anime, off the top of my head I'll say Earth Maiden Arjuna, Dennou Coil, Fantastic Children, and The Big O.

For cartoons, I'd say most of them are good but idk if they're must-sees if you're an adult unless they happen to be one of those sitcoms for adults. For action-adventures, I'd recommend any of the shows out of the DCAU, which are very enjoyable for older audiences as well. Star Wars: the Clone Wars (2008) is also pretty good, though some say it has a rocky start. Teen Titans might actually be a good fit for you because it has a lot of comedy. If you're not looking for anything life-changing but are still good shows, many cartoons will do--- Transformers Animated, Transformers Prime, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Tron Uprising (which is very visually striking), Ben 10, Samurai Jack, TMNT (2003). Oh, and then there's this little known show called Avatar: The Last Airbender. Might wanna check that one out if you haven't already.
Sunroge Sep 25, 10:23 AM
i like ur oregairu review 🔒
DillonA Sep 25, 9:57 AM
I more or less agreed with what you had to say, don't listen to people who hate on your reviews. They're idiots.
Recynon Sep 24, 5:03 PM
That's fair, but I'm just saying if you choose your watchlist carefully you can cover all the shows that you'll eventually treasure. Gintama and Kino are both pretty well known and highly rated, so it's easy to put those at the top of your list. It's very rare that I find a hidden gem that's not only unknown, but which I further judge to be not worth my time, that ends up actually being worth my time.

EDIT: I don't watch much live action TV either. Animation is where it's all at.
DillonA Sep 24, 4:55 PM
That was a really good review of oregairu s3
Recynon Sep 24, 4:22 PM
The way I see it, I only need to watch at most 200 anime to get a good idea of anime as a whole and what each genre is like at its best, as long as I choose carefully. I don't see the point in watching any more if I've already seen the best of everything and/or everything that's unique enough to be worth checking out. Why not then move on to other mediums, like books, movies, or even foreign shows? I think a variety of experiences is important.
Recynon Sep 24, 3:46 PM
I was wondering how people accumulate 900 anime on their completed list. I only started seriously watching at the beginning of this year. Before that I had watched about 5 anime series ever. I spent a lot of time making a PTW list full of all the most well-regarded anime and then tried to get through them as fast as possible, sometimes watching them on 2x speed. Now I've pretty much finished all the major ones in both anime and cartoons so I'm just cleaning up and taking it easy. I no longer force myself to sit down and binge a 26 episode show in 2-3 days. The enjoyment for me comes with rewatching the ones that I liked the first time around, which I'll do in a few years.
Recynon Sep 24, 12:34 PM
Yeah, that's why I now have 5 pages of single spaced text on action adventures. Do you watch cartoons as much as you do anime?
Recynon Sep 24, 12:22 PM
I'm not going to say it's really that good, because then you'll be going in with expectations and you might not be the type to like it. I'll just say that it's a good crime procedural. Its main problem is that it doesn't explore nor develop its cast very much and along with its exposition, this might make it too dry.

I'm also chilling as of late when it comes to shows because I'm tired to spending so much time thinking about them. I'm just watching the 2000s action adventure cartoons, though that's made me think about what it means to be a good action-adventure show.
Recynon Sep 24, 11:24 AM
Right, I totally agree with that. I think the Ghost in the Shell franchise explores the ideas in a clearer way and with much more depth (though this is partially because it's got way more than 13 episodes). Its political and ideological ideas themselves are hard to comprehend, at least for me since I don't have much of a background in them, but they're presented in a clear way.
Recynon Sep 24, 9:32 AM
There are reasonable criticisms of Mushishi in the reviews which talk about how it's too episodic and repetitive and doesn't explore anything new thematically with each episode. I think part of it comes from other people hyping it up to be some super deep, reflective show. But I think if you take it on its own merits, it embodies the ebbs and flows, up and downs of human life, which is just another part of nature. Its simplicity, neutral tone, and lack of overarching narrative speaks to the lack of greater meaning and/or grand narrative in our own lives and helps us accept tragedy and happiness as they come.

A similar thing can be said about Lain, in that the fragmented, confusing storytelling itself is intentional because it gives the viewers the experience of being confused over their identity and reality. Both Mushishi and Lain revolve around a slow atmosphere and strong ambience, but the difference is that I love Mushishi's gentle music and tone whereas I highly dislike Lain's dark gritty aesthetic and cold, electronic atmosphere. I don't think of Mushishi or Lain as evoking refined taste--- I think that just speaks to the hype surrounding them. Apparently anything that isn't a high school drama or battle shounen is refined taste. They're just different. Thematically, I personally didn't derive any concepts I haven't seen before from either of them but that's fine. Some of Lain's ideas may have been new at the time but I just didn't like the way it went about it. So TL;DR, slow atmospheric can be good or bad, depending on whether or not you like the atmosphere, and it shouldn't be a shorthand for being deep and philosophical.
Recynon Sep 24, 8:40 AM
I mean, I'm willing to bet a lot of people have Mushishi on their list just to seem artsy.
Yeah, I think it's extremely important to understand what I'm watching. I actually seldom go into the details like voice acting, camera work, animation, etc, but I do talk a lot about macroscopic patterns, which is what I did in the comment. What did you think about what I said?