Tsuujou Kougeki ga Zentai Kougeki de Ni-kai Kougeki no Okaasan wa Suki Desu ka? Episode 9 Discussion

Aversa said:
Medi being mean from time to time is funny to watch tho.

Armados said:
Sometimes I feel like whomever wrote this story doesn't know how to write Mamako as a character. She feels like she completely acts upon an ideal, and not as a human being. She doesn't understand basic things like what Masato actually wants, and is simply "nice" to everything in existence just because.

At least its nice that Medhi's mother's affected Medhi to the core by making her competitively toxic. While its completely used as comic relief, its still better than having it completely disappear as the arc ends.

Eh... it still feels like there is no purpose to anything. Kids remain in the group simply just because, even though their mothers already left so they have no purpose in staying in-game. That's as if they don't have an actual life and just hangout with everyone for fun. While it is understandable, they don't really get anything else out of staying there, and probably do sacrifice important things from their original lives like studying over school, or working and earning money... but whatever... Mamako just plays around and does random stuff even though she signed up to improve her relationship with Masato, and Shirase is as clueless as a Nexon employee in Maple Story. I don't fully understand what is the point of this anime other than being a very flat parody with some fanservice.

Armados said:

Eh... it still feels like there is no purpose to anything. Kids remain in the group simply just because, even though their mothers already left so they have no purpose in staying in-game. That's as if they don't have an actual life and just hangout with everyone for fun. While it is understandable, they don't really get anything else out of staying there, and probably do sacrifice important things from their original lives like studying over school, or working and earning money... but whatever... Mamako just plays around and does random stuff even though she signed up to improve her relationship with Masato, and Shirase is as clueless as a Nexon employee in Maple Story. I don't fully understand what is the point of this anime other than being a very flat parody with some fanservice.

PasserBy_PB said:
Mamako is just classical OP protagonist, but instead of the classical clumsy hyped, witty troll or edgy teenager is an idealistic mom. So don't know why now there is problem with her when we got either OP or top skilled MCs all the time and every each of them a copy paste of the previous one.

So why now?

Nieznajomy43 said:


I call this Barney effect (Barney & Friends). This can happen when some characters are overly/unrealistic optimistic to the point of annoyance and don't show any or vaguely other emotions.
And the biggest problems of these characters are that they don't fit in regular character development which is "be better" because when someone is perfect then can't be better.

@mat619 because Saitama as OP isn't point of story, real plot narrative is to make him happy. He even as the strongest character in OPM have still a lot flaws so he still have room for improvement (be better).

Nieznajomy43 said:
And the biggest problems of these characters are that they don't fit in regular character development which is "be better" because when someone is perfect then can't be better.

PasserBy_PB said:


While is a nice exposition you put there, still does not explain why only now MAL have a problem with her being OP, in special when characters like that have been around since forever: Goku, Naruto, Deku, Asta, Souma, Luffy, etc.

Mica-Chan10 said:

Mamako does have the problem of smothering her son too much. In theory she could improve by giving him space and letting him do things for himself rather than taking care of all his problems. Though so far there aren't any signs that the anime will have her realize her mistake so she is an oblivious OP Marie-sue who spoils the fun for the rest of the party members.

Nieznajomy43 said:


easy because of "struggle", they never achieved their goals without a lot of effort.
Goku: always will train hard to become stronger because there's always someone stronger and he almost never one shot enemies.
Naruto: He was hated from later arcs because it's turnout he isn't noone/underdog but a reincarnation of "demigod" and his power was destined.
Deku: Same as Naruto (but better), he in his ~6/10 years learned that he is powerless someone considered worthless in his society and still be needed to learn to safely use One for All powers.
Asta: Same as Naruto (but better), he is still (manga/anime) treated as garbage even after saving kingdom because he doesn't have mana.

If you want hated OP character there is Kirito from SAO. :)

PasserBy_PB said:


I mean, what you said regarding Wise and Medhi can be pretty much applied to most
modern isekai's MC. They barely care to inquire about the new world they are in and go the story like "Well I'm dead and reincarnated here, better live now lol". They just accept the circunstances because they are dead and the world they are in is familiar to stuff they played or had read. They are not like Tanya where there is a reason behind the MC reincarnation, most of them got isekaed "Just Because..." and that's it. Let alone trying to go back to their world (I guess that is the effect of the first arc of SAO: ESCAPISM POWER FANTASY, why go back when you are in the world of your dreams).

Regarding it's point, literally, is there a point for most anime out there? Besides, you know, entertain?

Mamako is just classical OP protagonist, but instead of the classical clumsy hyped, witty troll or edgy teenager is an idealistic mom. So don't know why now there is problem with her when we got either OP or top skilled MCs all the time and every each of them a copy paste of the previous one.

So why now?

modboy said:


It's quite an existential comment. Who's to say they're not living an actual life? Would you escape the fantasy world to go back to the real-world so you could watch anime again?

Armados said:


Its literally a game. Its not an actual world. Its simply a game made entirely to help mothers and their children to get closer. The mothers already left, and keep on living their normal lives, while their children stay in this game in a beta version for probably months, for what reason exactly...? Its not an actual world that allows an alternate life to live at, its just a stupid game that would get closed sooner or later.