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| Thank God Levi chose Armin over Erwin. Armin is so bright and has created so many plans for them, I can't imagine the series without him <3 |
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| Amazing. This entire season, both parts, are amazing. Deserved 10. The lack of music, Berthold crying for help. 5/5 I expected Mikasa to go nuclear here, but everyone was too tired so it was rather calm. Super intense. The ED really fits too well for this season. Lol at them for completely forgetting about Furry Titan and his ride though. This lost them Reiner. But I guess colossal titan is a better catch than armored titan since Eren already fits that role with hardening. And Erwin is gone for good. F Mega. Next ep is basement reveal. I cant wait. All those years of "go read the manga" and its finally here. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
keragamming said: KanonDE said: Sasuga of course the plot armour in attack on titan is as bs as ever. Disappointing episode overall. Should not be disappointing at all to you, since you gave the previous seasons a 1/10. I kinda enjoyed this season actually, but episodes like that remind me of why I can't take this anime serious lol |
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| I was unsure if they where gonna truly kill off Armin or not, I'm not surprised that they didn't since we new about the serum beforehand. About the thing him surviving that fall? Sure I wouldn't argue against that he shouldn't have, but at the same time Eren and Reiner have survived alot aswell. But it is also Anime and Attack on Titan so I wouldn't blame it to much, since the world isn't very realistic from the start, you know with the whole concept of the 3rd maneuver gear. So I am alittle surprised how critical people are of these stuff sometimes. I do understand the complaints, I rolled my eyes alittle aswell and like I said, I wouldn't argue against him surviving the fall being illogical. But I don't think it breaks the episode or the show. |
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Weebover9000 said: dont know why you have to quote me for this but yes it is. They certainly earned their pay. Everything is just that good here.Comander-07 said: Amazing. This entire season, both parts, are amazing. Deserved 10. The lack of music, Berthold crying for help. 5/5 I expected Mikasa to go nuclear here, but everyone was too tired so it was rather calm. Super intense. The ED really fits too well for this season. Lol at them for completely forgetting about Furry Titan and his ride though. This lost them Reiner. But I guess colossal titan is a better catch than armored titan since Eren already fits that role with hardening. And Erwin is gone for good. F Mega. Next ep is basement reveal. I cant wait. All those years of "go read the manga" and its finally here. Can I also just say this is some of the best japanese voice acting works ive heard in a long while, the seiyuus nailed it this episode hard. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
KanonDE said: keragamming said: Should not be disappointing at all to you, since you gave the previous seasons a 1/10. I kinda enjoyed this season actually, but episodes like that remind me of why I can't take this anime serious lol It means you can't take no serious anime seriously, because they all have plot armor. The time when Kenny gave Levi the syringe you should have figure it out that it would eventually be used, its called chekhov's gun. @Mei-o_Scarlett Don't paint us all like the villains, if you read through these discussion plenty of us agree that Armin surviving is plot armored and we didn't make any excuses for that. Also why shouldn't someone think their series is superior to other series? That is pretty much every anime fan in a nutshell. |
keragammingJun 2, 2019 6:04 PM
| never change aot fans >shittalk battle shounen fans and all the battle shounen series for millions of plot armor and etc >when your series does the same thing, suddenly its logical etc etc keep up your moral high ground and thinking your series is superior never change man |
| So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
| Flock has finally started showing his flocking annoying side. It's sad that he is only going to get worse. I was annoyed when Reiner was saved in the manga, but after recent chapters, I am happy to see Reiner saved. Though, pretty sure he would have preferred being killed here. I didn't notice it before, but Jean really does seem to care for his comrades. Eren fought against Levi, and Mikasa cried for someone other than Eren. Both of these events still surprise me (in a good way). Armin's abs don't look much different from the manga. How sad. I thought Wit Studio would make it look better. I feel like the way the events were presented in this episode wasn't very good. I don't remember much from the manga, but I think the scenes were done chillingly well in it. The animation felt quite off at times, like when Erwin slapped Levi's hand away or when Mikasa struggled against Hanji's grasp. Also, the characters' faces kept changing and their eyes weren't looking in the correct directions. I thought the art director was supposed to fix that. So that's how Hanji lost an eye! |
Illyricus said: Bert "I can accept any outcome that happens" Bert being eaten by armin "REEEEEEEINNNNNNERRRRRR!"Pretty much, lmao. I get that the message was that Bertolt was no different from all those poor bastards who were crying when they were eaten by the Titans, but after such display of cold blood and acceptance in the previous episodes, it felt jarring as heck. If you actually see him when he was grabbed, he was smiling when he saw Eren and friends, He thought they were coming to save him. Bertholt lost this memories of the battle, that's why he was crying asking for help. Really subtle stuff you won't see if your eyes are glued to subtitle. |
| I cant belive Armin is a titan now ♥_♥ |
| I was at edge of my sit watching this, cringing on who will Levi save! But his decision became clear when Erwin flicked that syringe and his words came into mind. Eren's words were passionate and touching, I would've saved Armin too if I was Levi. Still would've loved Levi even if he saved Erwin, that guy is unhateble to me! |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| Damn, seeing Bertholt being chewed by titan Armin was so satisfying, |
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Mei-o_Scarlett said: never change aot fans >shittalk battle shounen fans and all the battle shounen series for millions of plot armor and etc >when your series does the same thing, suddenly its logical etc etc keep up your moral high ground and thinking your series is superior never change man Wow do people in attack on titan fandom actually thinks their show has no plot armor and asspull? If that was the case then they wouldn't have named Reiner plot armored titan. Of course it's fictional show just like jojo it has asspull too but people still enjoy it regardless. asspulls only make show intresting because they use that as an advantage to make story better unless it's Fairy Tail. Araki and Isayama are one of those manga creator who use asspull to make things better which fans will enjoy it and they succeed too. |
Ri22rkJun 2, 2019 7:18 PM
| I absolutely love this episode and this series in general butt let's talk about criticisms for now shall we. Okay, the stuff about Armin's plot armor. I mean yea but from the last episode the one question I had in my mind was "How tf did armin end up on that side of the wall???" Like maybe he could've if he collided with the wall but he isn't some sort of bouncy ball to end up all the way to that building. |
| Feels bad for Levi! Ultimately he was the one who had to make all the shitty decisions and just when he thought life couldn't get any worse, emotional trauma hits him like a wrecking ball. |
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Nim0174 said: Frostbytes said: Best comedy episode, Snk always delivers with its stupid plot armours. >Armin gets lethal burns on his entire body and falls from such a high wall, an absolutely fatal position >"Oh but look, since he is one of the main characters, he is still barely alive and breathing!!! So get the serum!" And hence follows the subsequent drama. Hilarious episode, even more funny that Reiner's plot armour from few episodes ago. lmao Anime: 4th Degree Burns and fall from 50 Metre --> not logical survival Real Life: Plane Crash from 31000-38000 feet (just for reference this is more than 50 metres lmao) engine fire burns the entire plane in free fall multiple survivors --> totally logical Wow, you must either be an anime character in an anime world with dumb laws of physics, or a complete ignorant of real life events. It's not even been 2 months since the Ethiopian air crash incident that left no survivors. The 737 was in the air for barely 6 minutes after takeoff at 7000 feet altitude before it's malfunction that irremediably led to the fatal crash. And you're expecting us to believe your fanboy unbased rant? |
LightoLhxd4 said: tidoesstuff said: Lol, does anyone pay attention to this picture, Jean's face is not visible to the camera, I don't know whether he is crying or smiling I dont think it matters |
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| Even with all the amazing voice acting, you got to give some respect to the actual sound director, this episode lack of music is absolutely a great choice, as it focuses on character acting the music will kinda ruin it, but the only scene with music had the ThanksAT soundtrack playing which was perfect for that scene, really really well adapted. |
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ExodiaX said: Mei-o_Scarlett said: never change aot fans >shittalk battle shounen fans and all the battle shounen series for millions of plot armor and etc >when your series does the same thing, suddenly its logical etc etc keep up your moral high ground and thinking your series is superior never change man Wow do people in attack on titan fandom actually thinks their show has no plot armor and asspull? If that was the case then they wouldn't have named Reiner plot armored titan. Of course it's fictional show just like jojo it has asspull too but people still enjoy it regardless. asspulls only make show intresting because they use that as an advantage to make story better unless it's Fairy Tail. Araki and Isayma are one of those manga creator who use asspull to make things better which fans will enjoy it and they succeed too. i mean, its also interesting in ft too but ok sure, tell that first statement to kera here or any of the peeps tryna logic armin surviving as a possibility and not just plot armor |
| So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
ABDoesThings said: Mei-o_Scarlett said: Explaining how Armin survived adds nothing to the story, thats why I dont care.i mean, its also interesting in ft too but ok sure, tell that first statement to kera here or any of the peeps tryna logic armin surviving as a possibility and not just plot armor fair enough, i got no comeback for this |
| So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
Mei-o_Scarlett said: Yeah some people are being really farfetched, but majority of attack on titan fans in this forum agreed with Armin having plot armor, that will not stop people from loving the show though because story will not get downhill because of that.ExodiaX said: Wow do people in attack on titan fandom actually thinks their show has no plot armor and asspull? If that was the case then they wouldn't have named Reiner plot armored titan. Of course it's fictional show just like jojo it has asspull too but people still enjoy it regardless. asspulls only make show intresting because they use that as an advantage to make story better unless it's Fairy Tail. Araki and Isayma are one of those manga creator who use asspull to make things better which fans will enjoy it and they succeed too. i mean, it also interesting in ft too but o sure, e thrl that first statement to kera here or any of the peeps tryna logic armin surviving as a possibility and not just plot armor |
Ri22rkJun 2, 2019 7:26 PM
Kimurah said: Wow, you must either be an anime character in an anime world with dumb laws of physics, or a complete ignorant of real life events. It's not even been 2 months since the Ethiopian air crash incident that left no survivors. The 737 was in the air for barely 6 minutes after takeoff at 7000 feet altitude before it's malfunction that irremediably led to the fatal crash. And you're expecting us to believe your fanboy unbased rant? right back at you you goddamn peasant you disregard thousands of occurences where people have survived by looking at one event where people haven't survived to justify ur statement, which is flawed as fuck now get out of here and suck on some candy or something |
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Mei-o_Scarlett said: ExodiaX said: Wow do people in attack on titan fandom actually thinks their show has no plot armor and asspull? If that was the case then they wouldn't have named Reiner plot armored titan. Of course it's fictional show just like jojo it has asspull too but people still enjoy it regardless. asspulls only make show intresting because they use that as an advantage to make story better unless it's Fairy Tail. Araki and Isayma are one of those manga creator who use asspull to make things better which fans will enjoy it and they succeed too. i mean, its also interesting in ft too but ok sure, tell that first statement to kera here or any of the peeps tryna logic armin surviving as a possibility and not just plot armor @ExodiaX Me of all people, the very first one that call Reiner plot armored in the discussion thread when this chapter was release in the manga, the same one that never liked none of this serumboil drama, the same one who didn't like that Armin was revived back to life is being use as an example? I'm triggered!   ^ 2016 proof to back up my claim. Sure I have gotten over it, but I was no way defending it in this thread. |
Frostbytes said: Best comedy episode, Snk always delivers with its stupid plot armours. >Armin gets lethal burns on his entire body and falls from such a high wall, an absolutely fatal position >"Oh but look, since he is one of the main characters, he is still barely alive and breathing!!! So get the serum!" And hence follows the subsequent drama. Hilarious episode, even more funny that Reiner's plot armour from few episodes ago. Did you even finish this episode? Levi did not revive Erwin because he didn't want Erwin to suffer from being the captain again. That's it. Not because Levi likes Armin or whatever. |
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Frostbytes said: Weebover9000 said: I mean, I think Eren being eaten by a titan in season one with a couple limbs gone and suddenly being a titan shifter would be considered a bit worse plot armor than this, but whatevs. I mean yeah SnK has quite a few dumb plotlines anyway(some Reiner plot armours for example) so it's hard to say which is worse. Personally this was worse for me because how much drama was created when it shouldn't have existed anyway(but plot armour saves the day as usual). Chill, if you hate this show then stop watching it. |
| the fact there wasn't any music till the end made this episode feel even more depressing being in Levi's shoes would've been a nightmare, when you don't try to think about how Armin was still alive (i for sure thought he was dead) this episode was great it was a tough call but i can understand not picking erwin he peaked and was put in a situation where he had to kill him and all of his crops ,would you really want to be brought back with all that guilt after all of that though levi's wording from the hype trailer felt kinda misleading was thinking Eren did something so unbelievable fucked up is the moment finally coming up?! |
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| That was well, rough. Great episode though. I was suspicious that they might use the titan injection thing that Levi mentioned last episode to revive Armin but I definitely did not forsee the scenario where Levi ended up having to choose between Armin and Erwin. This was really intense to watch, emotions everywhere, makes you really wonder that if you were in such a scenario, how would you choose between two lives? What can use to determine the worth of one's life and why it's worth saving. If only we could save everybody right? :( The OST kicking at the end was so so good. I understand the criticism about Armin's survival, it's definitely more convenient than Erwin's own survival, I actually thought Levi showing hesitation last episode and the four legged titan saving beast was a little convenient too but ultimately, this is fiction. It's a story, it will always have plot conveniences and plot armor because it needs to tell that story. It can be good sometimes, it can get bad if overdone but in this case I'm sure we can overlook it cause of the raw emotion . R.I.P Erwin, I will miss you and your Shinzou wo Sasageyo! Show's not gonna be the same without him. :( |
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Lel0uchZer0 said: Weebover9000 said: Calling mikasa retarded is a bit much, shes watching her closest friend aside from Eren dying, thats a natural human reaction to break down like that. Dude levi and hange were watching erwin die too and they were pretty rational. I am mad because she jumped levi without argument. She only wanted armin to live which is understandable but she has no point at all Even eren made a better point which is WOW Mikasa was a great character that died after season 1 when she got levi injured with her dumb ass in the fight against annie >Mikasa is a great character whe she's just a flawless badass Mary-sue |
keragamming said: Wow, you sure are a dedicated person and yeah how Armin survive is definitely plot armor but people are really taking that much seriously. Implying real life logic is weird, it's a fictional series for a reason.Mei-o_Scarlett said: i mean, its also interesting in ft too but ok sure, tell that first statement to kera here or any of the peeps tryna logic armin surviving as a possibility and not just plot armor @ExodiaX Me of all people, the very first one that call Reiner plot armored in the discussion thread when this chapter was release in the manga, the same one that never liked none of this serumboil drama, the same one who didn't like that Armin was revived back to life is being use as an example? I'm triggered! ^ 2016 proof to back up my claim. Sure I have gotten over it, but I was no way defending it in this thread. |
Ri22rkJun 2, 2019 8:08 PM
ExodiaX said: keragamming said: Wow, you sure are a dedicated person and yeah how Armin survive is definitely plot armor but people are really taking that much seriously. Implying real life logic is weird, it's a fictional series for a reason.@ExodiaX Me of all people, the very first one that call Reiner plot armored in the discussion thread when this chapter was release in the manga, the same one that never liked none of this serumboil drama, the same one who didn't like that Armin was revived back to life is being use as an example? I'm triggered! ^ 2016 proof to back up my claim. Sure I have gotten over it, but I was no way defending it in this thread. The point is, having those gripe with the series in this arc doesn't stop me from loving this series as all series has its flaws. |
Blarey said: Nim0174 said: lmao Anime: 4th Degree Burns and fall from 50 Metre --> not logical survival Real Life: Plane Crash from 31000-38000 feet (just for reference this is more than 50 metres lmao) engine fire burns the entire plane in free fall multiple survivors --> totally logical >reasonable criticism is made >deny all negative criticism with irrational reasoning that fits your point of view Typical low-iq SnK fan response There's no plot armor, so how is it a reasonable criticism? |
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| Yo Yui Ishikawa was amazing in this episode. For someone like Mikasa to rarely show emotion and to eventually break down...damn man she did a fantastic job. Add in as well all the VA's were great in this episode. Damn man they gave Armin the JUICE!!! Hange and Jean....mistakes might come back to haunt them...Reiner will return...Bertholdt wont lol. Wonder who that Jabroni was. |
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| Oh my god. I really didn't think they'd save Armin. I thought he was dead dead for sure. They really pulled us in both directions huh. I really wanted Reiner dead, but at least colossal titan powers will be more useful. Just man I'm sick of Reiner being alive. Rip Erwin for real. I am very interested in what beast titan said to Eren in the beginning. Does he truly believe he'd be saving Erin? Hmm gonna have to wait and see. The basement is finally here... |
SethBigBoss said: Great episode but the lack of music at first makes it a bit empty imo For me, the lack of music added weight to the after math of the events that just took place along with deciding how they were going to move forward from this. |
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| Good episode but the ending kinda felt...anticlimactic...? Lol, maybe it's because I knew from the manga that this would happen. |
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| Seems like people are mixing logical consistency and world consistency. Don't get me wrong, I still think Armin surviving that is bs but there is no reason to compare it to our worlds' examples. Example: In a fantasy setting you can use magic to do all sort of things yet you can't use rifles or miniguns. You need to keep that world consistency. Now the ability to fly via magic would be in the boundaries of that magic logic for that world. So let's not think about how people survived in this world because that really adds nothing to the discussion. In SnK world as we know, there is no way to a normal human to survive that burns. Nothing to discuss here so it's obviously plot armour that saved Armin. Is it bothersome? Not "too much" for me. I still enjoyed the episode. However, it would be better to add a rule like "you can use this serum to dead people" or something like that to make that scene better. |
| What an episode!!!!!! It was an intense episode but i think they did the right choice, Erwin deserves to rest. It was a very sad episode..to see them all fighting between each other but it was a tough decision. Can't believe we had to wait 6 years to see Berthold's death! What a moment! I really hope it was worth it, they basically exchanged whole scouts group + Erwin for Armin titan powers, and they didn't even kill Reiner or the monkey titan. So, i really hope it's worth it but only the next episode will say it! Finally! RIP Erwin! P.S Watching Berthold getting eaten is the best thing ever. |
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