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Apr 2, 2019 10:50 PM
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Why is anime still seen as childish? Everyone I know makes fun of it until they start watching. Then they seem to really like it lmao.
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Apr 2, 2019 10:54 PM
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people saying anime is for kids clearly don't know what the fuck they're talking about



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Apr 2, 2019 11:04 PM
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The vast majority of people worldwide think of anime as cartoons, and the vast majority of people watching cartoons are kids, so it comes as no surprise.
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Correct me if I'm wrong about this, but anime's mainstream western popularity peaked in the late 90's with shows like Dragon Ball, Pokemon and Yugioh which are generally aimed at a younger audience. It's possible that that period shaped people's perception of anime and still affects it today.
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Apr 2, 2019 11:27 PM
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Cuz most people still have no clue what anime is, and the most popular shows in the west are more for younger audiences. Also cartoons in the west are usually regarded as something for a younger audience, so many people probably make the assumption that it's similar for anime.
Apr 2, 2019 11:57 PM
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Because most anime that reaches the mainstream in the west are either for children or for teenagers. I don't think there's any anime aimed at adults with that level of popularity (even Cowboy Bebop is pretty niche), so it's not surprising that people outside the community think of the medium as something for children.
Apr 3, 2019 12:18 AM
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from what ive seen so far anime is for the most part childish
Apr 3, 2019 12:21 AM
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Well to be fair, the target audience of most anime are teenagers so...
Apr 3, 2019 12:23 AM
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Jacksen said:
Why is anime still seen as childish? Everyone I know makes fun of it until they start watching. Then they seem to really like it lmao.


You probably interact with the wrong people. and they probably have not seen the seinen Anime yet.
Apr 3, 2019 12:24 AM

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Imagine seeing adult anime fans from a third-person point of view. Mostly a bunch of weirdos watching little 2d girls, or teens at school, or some tryhard deepshit.
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Because most anime that reaches the mainstream in the west are either for children or for teenagers. I don't think there's any anime aimed at adults with that level of popularity (even Cowboy Bebop is pretty niche), so it's not surprising that people outside the community think of the medium as something for children.
THIS! Most of the anime series that are broadcast on TV outside Japan are those meant for kids. Here in India, the only known anime when I was a kid were Pokémon, Digimon, Doraemon, Ninja Hattori, Genius Bakabon, Perman and Shin Chan. Many kids didn't even realize that these are actually Japanese shows translated into Hindi.
Apr 3, 2019 4:23 AM

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Animation is treated as childish since some people cannot comprehend that animated stuff can be for adults. You have to make such people watch things like "Perfect Blue", "Grave of the fireflies" or "Erased" to make them understand. But the stigma is real and I hope it will die with anime becoming more mainstream.
Apr 3, 2019 7:11 AM

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More than half the population in the world are unaware of term 'anime'. Most of the people know dragon ball, doraemon, pokemon or shinchan but they are labeled as cartoons. Animation in general is known as cartoon to most people so, if they even see anime which is just another form of animation, they will label it as cartoon. Cartoons in general are childish hence, anime is also labeled as childish.

If you want to convience them that anime is not childish, then show them some gore like elfen lied. They will understand because, it worked after I showed it to my friends.


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Apr 3, 2019 7:14 AM

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I had no experience with such people. Hell i turned my recent college friend into a casual anime watcher.

Check out my taste and my profile.
Apr 3, 2019 7:46 AM

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From the outside perspective, assuming that you never seen anime before, you see it as animated which might lead to let you think that it is childish in a way. People might have watch shows from famous channels like Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, Disney etc. which the target audience is most likely kids to teenagers so you would come to think that cartoons are childish in nature. So animated shows/movies in general are more likely to be seen "childish" than live dramas/shows. It just comes to the perception of some people really, even Family Guy and The Simpsons are "adult" comedy cartoons but it might be seen as childish when compared to live comedy shows. They might have not seen hentai so that probably explains their perception.



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Apr 3, 2019 8:15 AM

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Because there's something wrong with you. People no longer say that unless you act in an immature way.
Apr 3, 2019 8:24 AM

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Its just pure Ignorance. Simple as that.
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Many people just don't like the form, art style, and just the simple fact that it's animated may be discouraging. Also, stereotypes regarding cliches, like over the top expressions, comedy, yelling characters and fanservice (especially ecchi)
Apr 3, 2019 8:29 AM

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Apr 3, 2019 8:44 AM
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goodguygreg said:
Satyr_icon said:
Because most anime that reaches the mainstream in the west are either for children or for teenagers. I don't think there's any anime aimed at adults with that level of popularity (even Cowboy Bebop is pretty niche), so it's not surprising that people outside the community think of the medium as something for children.
THIS! Most of the anime series that are broadcast on TV outside Japan are those meant for kids. Here in India, the only known anime when I was a kid were Pokémon, Digimon, Doraemon, Ninja Hattori, Genius Bakabon, Perman and Shin Chan. Many kids didn't even realize that these are actually Japanese shows translated into Hindi.

Yeah man you are right about this. But I still have some friends who are into anime and we share recommendations and all
Apr 3, 2019 8:51 AM
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Mirai said:
Well to be fair, the target audience of most anime are teenagers so...

Yeah,many people seem to be missing this point.
Apr 3, 2019 9:19 AM

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Doesn't happen to me. 95% of people I know my age has watched anime.

The most popular anime are geared towards teenage boys, anyway. It's not really that baffling that the people that don't know anything about it think it's for children.
People that don't know anything about a specific form of media will only look at the immediate viewable surface level, the part that's most apparent. Whether it's to their intention to look down on something or otherwise. People generalizing forms of media is incredibly common.
You've probably done this yourself for something else.


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People who watch anime are neckbeard manchildren.
Grow up losers.


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I blame the fan base, while the limited variety statistic does play a role, the fans have a habit of enforcing the childish vibe . All the stereotypical little fan habits, all the overly serious fans arguing to the death over their shows, the format catches the blame for that. It can't be helped, as long as the typical fan behavior is recognized as adults screaming NYAN at a convention, or some grown ass anituber guy singing praises to his waifu, anime will be viewed as childish. I do think that mindset is coming to its end though, I saw a photo of Elon Musk rocking a Kakegurui t-shirt. A few more years and the fan base will be as publicly diverse as the science fiction/superhero genre, and catch less hate as a result. All of this is personal opinion though, as I have no way of proving it.
Apr 3, 2019 9:25 AM

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a majority of anime, especially the ones that get all the attention is created for a younger audience, hence people think that Anime is for kids.



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Apr 3, 2019 9:49 AM

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Levi_Sensei said:
But I still have some friends who are into anime and we share recommendations and all
I've only two such friends and only one of them can be called a hardcore anime watcher.
Apr 3, 2019 9:55 AM

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The majority of people who i come across that look down on anime are other anime fans, it's hardly ever if at all non fans.


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Apr 3, 2019 10:00 AM
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People that think Anime is for kids obviously haven't seen Perfect Blue, and let me tell you Perfect Blue (Unrated) isn't for kids or for teenagers, It shows how ignorant they are and how much of a dumbass they can be. You have animes like Cowboy Bebop, Black Lagoon, and Psycho Pass that are targeted for adults and then you have Manga like Berserk, Made in Abyss, and Devilman that have a lot of Mature themes. So let them be ignorant.
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Idk, maybe because its viewers are still too immature to actually confront the people who allegedly have these prejudices when they encounter them, but instead generalize their experiences with them to the rest of humanity and find whining on a message board to be the best way to deal with it?

Seriously, what's the point of threads like this? A pat on the shoulder? Most people I know know that anime is not just for children and if your friends think otherwise then you should talk to them about it, ask them why they think what they think, try to change their minds if you really care. Don't ask a bunch of randos who never met these people you're talking about just for affirmation. What good does whining on MAL do you? Why do you think a bunch of strangers on the internet can give more accurate answers than the actual people you're talking about? Why is making threads like this every week such a popular hobby among anime fans? I think they just like their role as the victim of prejudices and reveling in that victimhood is one of the favorite group activities of this community, much more than actually doing anything about it.

Maybe if the anime fandom grows the fuck up and starts owning up to their hobby in various ways (like not hiding that they like it like an embarassed child or stopping all the childish, self-deprecation memes á la 'anime is trash and so am I') less people will see anime as being for children, but as long as they behave like children it's not really surprising that perception persists. The biggest perpetuators of prejudices towards anime, are anime fans themselves.
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Apr 3, 2019 10:15 AM
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People who don't use social media and old generations will think like that. I used to watch The Simpsons a lot my parents would tell me to stop watching it because they thought it was for kids.
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Idk, maybe because its viewers are still too immature to actually confront the people who allegedly have these prejudices when they encounter them, but instead generalize their experiences with them to the rest of humanity and find whining on a message board to be the best way to deal with it?

Seriously, what's the point of threads like this? A pat on the shoulder? Most people I know know that anime is not just for children and if your friends think otherwise then you should talk to them about it, ask them why they think what they think, try to change their minds if you really care. Don't ask a bunch of randos who never met these people you're talking about just for affirmation. What good does whining on MAL do you? Why do you think a bunch of strangers on the internet can give more accurate answers than the actual people you're talking about? Why is making threads like this every week such a popular hobby among anime fans? I think they just like their role as the victim of prejudices and reveling in that victimhood is one of the favorite group activities of this community, much more than actually doing anything about it.

Maybe if the anime fandom grows the fuck up and starts owning up to their hobby in various ways (like not hiding that they like it like an embarassed child or stopping all the childish, self-deprecation memes á la 'anime is trash and so am I') less people will see anime as being for children, but as long as they behave like children it's not really surprising that perception persists. The biggest perpetuators of prejudices towards anime, are anime fans themselves.


The only people that know I watch anime are people that already watch it. I never talk about it unless its brought up in a conversation. Nobody is whining here, Im just genuinely curious as to why its looked down upon.
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Imagine seeing adult anime fans from a third-person point of view. Mostly a bunch of weirdos watching little 2d girls, or teens at school, or some tryhard deepshit.

Guess I'm in the minority since I often find little girls annoying in anime.
Apr 3, 2019 10:29 AM

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Maybe because of the art style of most Anime nowadays.
Apr 3, 2019 10:31 AM

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because anime is animation, and most people think that anything animation is for children
Apr 3, 2019 10:43 AM

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Because most of anime are shonen and shoujou which are childish (in my point of view), people (non anime watchers) don't know about seinen and josei shows because they aren't popular.
Apr 3, 2019 10:53 AM

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Eh been there done that didnt know shit about anime back then now Im ashamed I thought that...
People think anime is childish because it has drawings and they mostly know about Pokemon etc...
they basicly dont know a shit about it so just show them boku no pico lol
Apr 3, 2019 11:40 AM

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A lot of people are close-minded and don't even take into consideration the fact that there might be animations for adults. They never watched animations for adults, may never even heard of it, so they assume that animes are same thing as cartoons from Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon since they are more familiarized with them.
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Correct me if I'm wrong about this, but anime's mainstream western popularity peaked in the late 90's with shows like Dragon Ball, Pokemon and Yugioh which are generally aimed at a younger audience. It's possible that that period shaped people's perception of anime and still affects it today.

This, I remember all the South Park Pokemon episode where the Japanese use it to brainwash the children into turning against America.
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ignorant and close minded people, enough said
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Probably because most anime is aimed at kids, with merchandise etc. Only a small minority is made for adults.
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A lot of people are close-minded and don't even take into consideration the fact that there might be animations for adults. They never watched animations for adults, may never even heard of it, so they assume that animes are same thing as cartoons from Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon since they are more familiarized with them.



I remember my parents really liked Persepolis. they had not seen anything like it before. Also my dad watched The Wind Rises when it was shown on TV.

Most pleasant surprise was when I was at a school. I met there a computer science teacher and mentioned to a kid the film Song of the Sea. She told me her brother was an animator and had worked on the film!
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Vecko said:
People who watch anime are neckbeard manchildren.
Grow up losers.


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I blame the fan base, while the limited variety statistic does play a role, the fans have a habit of enforcing the childish vibe . All the stereotypical little fan habits, all the overly serious fans arguing to the death over their shows, the format catches the blame for that. It can't be helped, as long as the typical fan behavior is recognized as adults screaming NYAN at a convention, or some grown ass anituber guy singing praises to his waifu, anime will be viewed as childish. I do think that mindset is coming to its end though, I saw a photo of Elon Musk rocking a Kakegurui t-shirt. A few more years and the fan base will be as publicly diverse as the science fiction/superhero genre, and catch less hate as a result. All of this is personal opinion though, as I have no way of proving it.


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Jacksen said:
Why is anime still seen as childish? Everyone I know makes fun of it until they start watching. Then they seem to really like it lmao.
Because contrary to popular belief it isn't as popular and admired as you would like to think.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

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Pullman said:
Idk, maybe because its viewers are still too immature to actually confront the people who allegedly have these prejudices when they encounter them, but instead generalize their experiences with them to the rest of humanity and find whining on a message board to be the best way to deal with it?

Seriously, what's the point of threads like this? A pat on the shoulder? Most people I know know that anime is not just for children and if your friends think otherwise then you should talk to them about it, ask them why they think what they think, try to change their minds if you really care. Don't ask a bunch of randos who never met these people you're talking about just for affirmation. What good does whining on MAL do you? Why do you think a bunch of strangers on the internet can give more accurate answers than the actual people you're talking about? Why is making threads like this every week such a popular hobby among anime fans? I think they just like their role as the victim of prejudices and reveling in that victimhood is one of the favorite group activities of this community, much more than actually doing anything about it.

Maybe if the anime fandom grows the fuck up and starts owning up to their hobby in various ways (like not hiding that they like it like an embarassed child or stopping all the childish, self-deprecation memes á la 'anime is trash and so am I') less people will see anime as being for children, but as long as they behave like children it's not really surprising that perception persists. The biggest perpetuators of prejudices towards anime, are anime fans themselves.



^ I said this but nicer. I hide my anime habits in real life though. Not because I have a shame of anime. I fecking love anime. If a non anime fan, or someone in my circle asks me question about a tshirt, or hat I'm wearing, Ill spread the gospel. It's other anime fans I hide from. In a bar the other night, I was talking anime, WITH A GIRL, zomg right? Then donny the dwellar joined in the conversation and I was reminded why I keep it to myself. This guy seemed chill at first, then what did he do? He asked this lady about controversial shows, and starts arguments. As soon as he started talking Re:zero, I did the universal two taps on the bar to get my tab. If anime fans would stop sucking, this amazing entertainment format would explode.
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Because the community cares too much whether people think it is childish. Only teenagers care so much whether people take them as adult because practically they're not.
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Because the community cares too much whether people think it is childish. Only teenagers care so much whether people take them as adult because practically they're not.

That's unfair though, because anime is often labelled as childish either way, for reasons that go beyond a few obnoxious teens on the internet. Denying that a certain social preconception exists for animation, and that many activities anime fans indulge in are catalogued as weird and childish, is giving too much power to a random 15-year-old who just wants to appear more mature than he/she is through their tastes and hobbies, like every other teen. Using anime for that is not different from using rock music and yet rock music doesn't quite create this prejudice in a larger scale.
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well most people think anime is for kids because its drawn, and probably the only kind of anime they have ever seen is shounen and they were pushed away by all the screaming and power of friendship.
if you want to change someone's mind about it just show them berserk or eva, i doubt they will ever say its for kids after that
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Because the community cares too much whether people think it is childish. Only teenagers care so much whether people take them as adult because practically they're not.

That's unfair though, because anime is often labelled as childish either way, for reasons that go beyond a few obnoxious teens on the internet. Denying that a certain social preconception exists for animation, and that many activities anime fans indulge in are catalogued as weird and childish, is giving too much power to a random 15-year-old who just wants to appear more mature than he/she is through their tastes and hobbies, like every other teen. Using anime for that is not different from using rock music and yet rock music doesn't quite create this prejudice in a larger scale.

What you said is right but I didn't really mean to comment on the cause of the public perception of anime. What I actually meant is "don't care about how other people think of your hobbies if you think you're mature."

When I was 16 I was into poetry and literature and I was thought to be a pretentious weirdos by other kids in my class. Is poetry a childish thing? No. Is it inherently a pretentious weirdo's hobby? No. Even something that has a prestigious status in high culture is not going to be viewed highly amongst teens. It's just how the world of teenagers operate. If you're frustrated about how they think of you hobbies, just don't talk about that with them and you'll be OK. When you get into a college and when you get to work, no one really cares about your hobbies unless they're also interested in what you're interested.

And to be honest I think there's just nothing wrong about an adult watching a show for kids. Most Ghibli's movies are for kids. Some of the best TV anime production is for kids (Sailor Moon, Doraemon, Shin-chan, Komocha, etc.) Personally I love kid show when they're well done. I feel nothing about anime being labelled as kiddy, because even the more "mature" shows do in fact usually target a rather young audience (12-22). The label is not entirely untrue. I've friends in their 30s who are casual viewers have no problem with telling everyone that they're fans of Doraemon, Cells at Work, Cardcaptor Sakura, etc. The problem is whether you're mature enough to have no shame in enjoying kiddy fun. It's easy to act all solemn, edgy and "mature". But as Picasso said, "it takes a long time to grow young."
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from what ive seen so far anime is for the most part childish

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I agree, out of tens of thousands of anime if u could name even 100 such anime then to it will be 1% and most of these so-called adult anime uses violence, dark and controversial themes but they do not seem to understand making something dark does not make it proper.

Following are the thing which i find childish/immature:-
1. Characters casually talking about their belief in between a serious fight.
(Eg: Villan being op defeats mc multiple times
Villan: "Haa-Haa-Haaa give up u cannot defeat me bla..bla..bla...
MC: i know ...i know that i cannot defeat you but bla..bla..bla....and that is what i believe so bla..bla..bla X4..
)
The above example may seem to be a bit over exaggeration still this is what basically happens all the time--if u catch my drift.

2.Facial expression used in most of these anime does not match with the situation and the cheracter.U might have came across these type of scenes where a person is being chased with his child and then the person lets his/her kid escape while watching guards/grp of people execute their parent during their final moments they are like smiling and saying something to assure their kid that they would be fine... Wtf? That is not how a person reacts knowing they are about to die and their child might be dead too i mean they would be terrified.

Enough said.
(i do enjoy anime, manga... Etc but i do believe it is childish)
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Because the most popular anime is usually pretty childish. The big-name shonen shit like BnHA, DBZ, Naruto, One Piece (as well as actual kids shows like Pokemon and Sailor Moon) is what the public is mostly familiar with as "anime", and that stuff is written for young teenagers, from manga that sells to young teenagers. Not saying that stuff is all completely worthless, but it isn't 'Crime and Punishment' or 'Notes From the Underground' either.

Even though good quality anime, written for adults exists, it's pretty niche, even inside the anime fandom. Even the biggest successes of anime legitimately made for adults, like say Tatami Galaxy, or Monster, or Satoshi Kon's films, are all dwarfed by the thousands of titles which, especially to an outsider, are easily dismessed as adolescent crap, because they're full of high school drama, spiky-haired kids in goofy clothes saving the world, endless obsession about super-powers, magic and fantasy worlds- all things associated with kids/adolescents much more than with adults.


Shit- look at MAL's 'top anime' list. Almost all titles in the top 25 have the majority characters teens or younger (idk the exact ages of LotGH MCs, or 3 Gatsu no Lion, but the general trend is clear regardless); you have to get down to number 25 til you find titles with a mostly adult cast/MCs (Cowboy Bebop, Mushishi, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju), and those titles are still a pretty small minority, no matter how far down the list you go.

tl;dtr because anime fans generally like childish shit more than they like adult shit

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