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Nov 12, 2017 12:07 PM
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I used to like Phos' antics and symphatise with her when she just wanted to be one of them fighting bad guys but as the show progresses she becomes more of a burden all around her and she's just getting irritating more and more.
Nov 12, 2017 12:18 PM

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Damn, can't this poor baby catch a break!
Nov 12, 2017 12:30 PM
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mruize85 said:
I don't understand gender discussions about this show. If there was no male-like characters in the show I can understand, but this is not the case. They all have female bodies, female voices, and female personalties, so they are female regardless of the pronouns they use.


Similarly, I'm having trouble with understanding people who are being so adamant about this view.
Nov 12, 2017 12:57 PM

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Yellow Diamond bringing back fast phos and Amethyst twins are assgined with phos on lookout.
Phos way too weak to be useful in combat, bort is mad now :'(
Nov 12, 2017 1:29 PM

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That was fucking scary, and the "Egyptian" music or whatever that was gave such an eerie vibe.





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Nov 12, 2017 3:08 PM
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mandorallen said:
I used to like Phos' antics and symphatise with her when she just wanted to be one of them fighting bad guys but as the show progresses she becomes more of a burden all around her and she's just getting irritating more and more.
just wait until episode 7 or 8 and I sure you somehow will change your mind
Nov 12, 2017 4:10 PM

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Yet again, the action scenes in this episodes are excellent.
Now I'm counting the episodes until the inevitable end of this show... for this season... I hope there's more to this show in the future.
Nov 12, 2017 4:35 PM

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There’s at least 84 of them, doubtful that quartz is in short supply, should be easy to fix.


No. Their name are 84 and 33. There is ony two of them. The name is a reference to this.


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Nov 12, 2017 5:43 PM

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basically ep.3 madoka

so much similarity
Nov 12, 2017 5:52 PM
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Lithianic said:
basically ep.3 madoka

so much similarity


Not really? We're not quite there yet. Oh boy.
Nov 12, 2017 6:17 PM

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Wow this episode was great. Certainly the gem of the season. Pun intended, of course.
Nov 12, 2017 9:50 PM

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Not sure why Bort was so pissy. Phos' presence and inability to do anything had zero impact on the situation. Amethyst would have been in that situation and would have fucked up regardless of Phos' presence.
Nov 13, 2017 2:44 AM

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Hylianticipated said:
Not sure why Bort was so pissy. Phos' presence and inability to do anything had zero impact on the situation. Amethyst would have been in that situation and would have fucked up regardless of Phos' presence.

Their job is to patrol and ask for help in case of problems. Fighting is a last resort. Without Phos' presence they would have leaved the place and come back with reinforcements (explanation in next episode).
Nov 13, 2017 3:30 AM
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Well as long as the pieces are still here rebuilding is still possible i guess even if the head is the only piece. I guess if you're been living and fighting for that long remembering why can be hard. So the luna's are scared of the rain then. Pho's new legs sure give her a lot of speed though. So the only thing that changed was her legs then everything else remained the same. Pho's reason for wanting to fight sure was surprising. Pho's speed though should make her useful for passing info though. Looks like Sensei picked up on the word human though. Amethyst are twin crystals then. The twins though sure are carefree though and the contrast between them and Pho's nervousness was striking. Pho's wish for combat sure came true though but the enemy this time sure was different. The masters anger sure is terrible to behold though. Looks like Pho's really wasn't ready after all though the cost in realizing this was steep.
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Nov 13, 2017 4:59 AM
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A few moments blew me away, staff is getting the most out of the CG animating, it's beautiful *-*
Nov 13, 2017 8:20 AM

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mruize85 said:
I don't understand gender discussions about this show. If there was no male-like characters in the show I can understand, but this is not the case. They all have female bodies, female voices, and female personalties, so they are female regardless of the pronouns they use.


They don't have breasts or genitals. Boys can be voiced by female seiyuu. What the hell is a "female personality"? They go by "kare" and "oniisan", which are masculine only, which means that they use he/him pronouns.

Looking forward to people's reactions to characters like Antarcicite, Cairngorm, and a certain spoiler character. They don't look feminine at all and are the same "gender" as the rest of them.
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Nov 13, 2017 11:08 AM

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KurouKuriko said:
They don't have breasts or genitals.

They don't have breasts because they aren't mammals and they don't need to feed children. Moreover, not all real-life women have (perceptible) breasts.

KurouKuriko said:
Boys can be voiced by female seiyuu.

Sure they can, but this doesn't mean that it will make sense to see a +16 years old "boy" with prepubescent voice.

KurouKuriko said:
What the hell is a "female personality"? They go by "kare" and "oniisan", which are masculine only, which means that they use he/him pronouns.

Do you relate to women? Male and female personalities are different and perfectly discernible one from the other. It isn't a social construct or shit like that: it's the fucking instinct with which we are all born. Doesn't matters how they call themselves, they behave like women.

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Looking forward to people's reactions to characters like Antarcicite, Cairngorm, and a certain spoiler character. They don't look feminine at all and are the same "gender" as the rest of them.

Gestures are subtle and difficult to interpret from the manga right now, especially for a show as ambiguous as this one. As more chapters come we will have more context to judge. In any case, one exception doesn't change anything. If they have male personalities then it will be OK to call these specific characters males.

I don't consider the genderless option because I can't think of a genderless human-like being. Sexuality is not a social construct, it's written in our DNA and brains. If we see something that looks and behaves like a woman we will identify her as a woman.
Nov 13, 2017 11:19 AM
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mruize85 said:
KurouKuriko said:
They don't have breasts or genitals.

They don't have breasts because they aren't mammals and they don't need to feed children. Moreover, not all real-life women have (perceptible) breasts.

KurouKuriko said:
Boys can be voiced by female seiyuu.

Sure they can, but this doesn't mean that it will make sense to see a +16 years old "boy" with prepubescent voice.

KurouKuriko said:
What the hell is a "female personality"? They go by "kare" and "oniisan", which are masculine only, which means that they use he/him pronouns.

Do you relate to women? Male and female personalities are different and perfectly discernible one from the other. It isn't a social construct or shit like that: it's the fucking instinct with which we are all born. Doesn't matters how they call themselves, they behave like women.

KurouKuriko said:
Looking forward to people's reactions to characters like Antarcicite, Cairngorm, and a certain spoiler character. They don't look feminine at all and are the same "gender" as the rest of them.

Gestures are subtle and difficult to interpret from the manga right now, especially for a show as ambiguous as this one. As more chapters come we will have more context to judge. In any case, one exception doesn't change anything. If they have male personalities then it will be OK to call these specific characters males.

I don't consider the genderless option because I can't think of a genderless human-like being. Sexuality is not a social construct, it's written in our DNA and brains. If we see something that looks and behaves like a woman we will identify her as a woman.
yes I agree with you. I think episode 7 and 8 will give us enough context to judge since it an arc. by the way how much episodes do you think they will cover this arc? I think 2 episodes will be enough
Nov 13, 2017 11:32 AM

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Great episode!

Wasn't Amethyst killed by a creature using a blue crystal? I may be entirely wrong but they were talking about Sapphire earlier in the episode as one of the gems that have been taken away by the Lunarians right? Idk
Nov 13, 2017 11:40 AM

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elior1 said:
mandorallen said:
I used to like Phos' antics and symphatise with her when she just wanted to be one of them fighting bad guys but as the show progresses she becomes more of a burden all around her and she's just getting irritating more and more.
just wait until episode 7 or 8 and I sure you somehow will change your mind

Nov 13, 2017 12:03 PM

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mruize85 said:

Do you relate to women? Male and female personalities are different and perfectly discernible one from the other. It isn't a social construct or shit like that: it's the fucking instinct with which we are all born. Doesn't matters how they call themselves, they behave like women.

Gestures are subtle and difficult to interpret from the manga right now, especially for a show as ambiguous as this one. As more chapters come we will have more context to judge. In any case, one exception doesn't change anything. If they have male personalities then it will be OK to call these specific characters males.

I don't consider the genderless option because I can't think of a genderless human-like being. Sexuality is not a social construct, it's written in our DNA and brains. If we see something that looks and behaves like a woman we will identify her as a woman.


I am a woman. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Bort and Yellow Diamond both have traditionally masculine personalities, and males can behave gentle and caring like Diamond, or sly and intelligent like Rutile. Cinnabar is literally just a generic loner/tsundere and males can cry too. Phos can be interpreted as either masculine or feminine because he's just immature and energetic. You can make any of them into outright males and nothing about their personality would change.

What are "female personality traits" that men can't have? That's so sexist towards both men and women. So men can't be gentle and nice and women can't be aggressive or something?

You've literally never read anything about anthropology or sociology in your life and only base your opinions off high school biology courses and/or homophobic social media posts. Good to know.

One of the feminine characters changes their looks to appear completely like a young boy later on; does that mean he changed his gender from female to male because of a haircut? Your gender roles and expectations are extremely unrealistic.

Maybe your "DNA and brain" are just not creative enough to accept something that many other fans have.

The author stated that they are genderless and use he/him to talk about themselves and each other. The characters literally called Yellow Diamond "oniisan" multiple times this episode. If you can't respect that, then there's nothing left to discuss. Pretty sure this post won't change your opinion anyway so I won't be checking for your response; I don't have this much time to waste. So you don't need to waste your time too and respond. Have a good day.
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Nov 13, 2017 12:44 PM
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I see a lot of discussion on the gender of the gems, haha!! For me it's difficult since in my mother tongue some gems are feminine and other are masculine:
The girls would be: Phos, Amethyst, Euclase, Alexandrite, Morganite, Obsidian
The boys would be: all the diamonds, Red Beryl, Rutile, Cinnabar, Jade, Zircon.

But I agree with the ones that think they look like girls, they made them with those wide hips, their shape is quite feminine.
Nov 13, 2017 1:45 PM
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Tlahuizcapante said:
elior1 said:
just wait until episode 7 or 8 and I sure you somehow will change your mind

I think the way she is after that change is better then what she is now
Nov 13, 2017 3:30 PM

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Episode went as fast as usual and it makes me kinda sad that Phos forgot the story about humans which was actually interesting.
The action was nice and even sensei did something more than shouting although Bortz were the main star since they managed to save Amethyst twins.

I start to like and care about Phos less since ep 5 somehow, I just wish they could be more useful to others, if they want to fight for sensei they should try harder even if it's only paying more attention to what is happening around them. If they can't fight yet they should atleast go back and alarm everyone that Lunarias appeared.
Oh well, all what is left is to wait and for Antarcticite (I really wonder how they'll sound like since they are no voice actors listed so far).



@KurouKuriko I love you. It's nice to see someone who will actually try talking to "close minded" people and actually explain why they are wrong without really insulting them.
As for me - the main characters are gems, pretty much the same you can see in jewelry stores but not refined, with microorganisms in them and with different, more human-like shape so it's hard for me to see them as either male or female.

They're bones of the humanity and since they are only 1/3 of what humans were in the past it's pretty obvious that they'll be missing few aspects that other parts can have, such as understanding sexuality which seems to be possessed by the Admirabilis.

And let's just not forget that they're nothing more than fantasy characters made from someone's imagination, they don't really have to obey laws of our world or society.

tags are actually working \o/
HakaminahNov 13, 2017 3:40 PM
I'm watching anime since 2012. I also play games, sometimes.

Don't bother me if you want to 'become friends' or things like that.
It's tiresome. I know you just want to collect some meaningless numbers.
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Nov 13, 2017 5:39 PM
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Probably a little late, considering that most people won't be looking in this thread again.

I like what they are doing with the sound in this episode a lot, especaily when sensei attack and the sound of the Lunarian contraption, which sounds very mechanical.
Nov 13, 2017 6:01 PM
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Oh well, all what is left is to wait and for Antarcticite (I really wonder how they'll sound like since they are no voice actors listed so far)

I have been wondering this for the longest time. Antarcticite is perhaps the most androgynous character in the series. In one panel I think that his face looks like that of a guy and the next he looks more like a girl. So I wonder, will his voice be like Yellow Diamond or like most of the cast?
Nov 13, 2017 9:16 PM
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elior1 said:
mandorallen said:
I used to like Phos' antics and symphatise with her when she just wanted to be one of them fighting bad guys but as the show progresses she becomes more of a burden all around her and she's just getting irritating more and more.
just wait until episode 7 or 8 and I sure you somehow will change your mind


I sure hope so but I still don't like how they try to find how low they can sink the protagonist before he or she can do something cool. I know that this is a common technique to make the viewers symphatise and to make the protagonist shine much birghter later on but for me there's a limit to that and this show has passed that limit. For now he information on MAL says it is a one-cour and waiting for protagonist to stop acting pathetic for more than half a show, almost two thirds is riddiculous and if there will be another season it is still a long time. I know that this is an adoptation and I can't blame them for sticking to the original source's plot but I don't read the manga and I can only comment on what I see.

Don't get me wrong I still very like this show but at the starting weeks of the season it was the second best for me after Mahoutsukai no Yome. Now I think Kino no Tabi and Shoujo Shuumatsu Royokou are more appealing to me.
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mandorallen said:
elior1 said:
just wait until episode 7 or 8 and I sure you somehow will change your mind


I sure hope so but I still don't like how they try to find how low they can sink the protagonist before he or she can do something cool. I know that this is a common technique to make the viewers symphatise and to make the protagonist shine much birghter later on but for me there's a limit to that and this show has passed that limit. For now he information on MAL says it is a one-cour and waiting for protagonist to stop acting pathetic for more than half a show, almost two thirds is riddiculous and if there will be another season it is still a long time. I know that this is an adoptation and I can't blame them for sticking to the original source's plot but I don't read the manga and I can only comment on what I see.

Don't get me wrong I still very like this show but at the starting weeks of the season it was the second best for me after Mahoutsukai no Yome. Now I think Kino no Tabi and Shoujo Shuumatsu Royokou are more appealing to me.
whatever you will like phos new personality turn around or not defend on you since she different but still will have some of her current personality
Nov 14, 2017 6:47 AM

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Everything is in trouble when Phos is involved!
Another one got wrecked... poor Amethyst!
4/5.


Nov 14, 2017 2:00 PM

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Great chapter! It's funny how this anime goes up in the season's score list while others fall.
Nov 15, 2017 4:15 AM

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I didn't even feel like Phos was terrified. They did a pretty shit job on making it look like that -.- otherwise everything was alright. I wonder if this is going to be a "remember who the real enemy is" kind of show because I feel like it is
Nov 15, 2017 9:47 AM

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Phos so annoying, this show goes nowhere, boring , cant bear anymore, dropped.
Nov 15, 2017 10:03 AM

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Phos so annoying, this show goes nowhere, boring , cant bear anymore, dropped.

Just when the action is going to start...
Nov 15, 2017 10:40 AM
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I didn't even feel like Phos was terrified. They did a pretty shit job on making it look like that -.- otherwise everything was alright. I wonder if this is going to be a "remember who the real enemy is" kind of show because I feel like it is


They did foreshadow it throughout the episode though that Phos is having a nervous break down. I thought it was pretty clear, I mean what else could it be?
Nov 15, 2017 1:34 PM
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This episode was actually really good imo. They did an excellent job in bringing out the twin's weird/ creepiness. Especially with the headknocks! That even creeped me out when they did it!! I actually thought Phos might do something when they were being attacked, but I wasn't really surprised that she didn't. And I'm with everyone else, I hope they continue into a second season. There seems to be so much more that can be done with the story, and this is honestly the first total CG anime that I've wanted to keep watching. The art is incredible!!
Nov 17, 2017 9:51 PM
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That rorschach Lunarian entry with an imposing kyojin & twins actions were pretty cool. Yet that's even topped by Bort & Sensei's power. The careful camera framing for cg helped.

Even as recon, Phos still a burden. Hope some improvement happens. Hard to blame her since her new legs are too fast, she's just learning to control them, and weight training the sword, and then her energy reserves got too low.

Feels like Yellow & Phos Sonic could be a fun pair.
Nov 19, 2017 1:46 AM

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Another ace EP. Four in a row
Nov 25, 2017 2:53 PM

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Damn... "there's something inside" alright!

Nov 28, 2017 7:59 PM

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-wait did rutile not notice phos was missing immediately upon waking up
-ningen wa people
-hoo man kongou snapped that motherfuckin table in half
-oh man those two just got fucking murdered
-phos is fuckin fired

Well this episode is probably my least favorite of the show so far, with the only memorable thing happening literally at the end of the episode. Phos also doesn't seem to be her usual chipper self but that's probably a side effect of the leg transplant.
Nov 30, 2017 5:51 AM

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I thought Yellow was trying to strip Phos at first.
Nov 30, 2017 8:48 AM

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Goddammit, Phos! Just go work in the library, or kitchen!! I liked the Amethyst twins. Hopefully they can be put back together.
Dec 12, 2017 12:09 AM
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goddd i wanna like this show more but Phos is getting on my nerves
Dec 23, 2017 5:44 PM
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Am I the only one who wants to see phos get in borts face.
Dec 28, 2017 7:58 AM

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that was really a cliche and pathetic way of getting "killed" by the enemy.

disappointed me here.
Just hope they managed to got Amethyst back, otherwise I will get just a little bit mad.

Phos, is starting to annoy for being "useless"... =/
I bet, however, that she'll be the one that will save the world... it's not hard to guess that, though.
If something else turn to be the outcome, it will be a surprise (and I hope it will be a good one).
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Well damn, considering how monotone Amethyst´s voice was whole episode, their final cry cought me off guard. Nicely done. Also loved Sensei´s reaction to the word Human. I wonder what that is about. :)
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So interested, as many here, of what the backstory behind Sensei's reaction to 'human' is. In fact, at this point i wonder what specifically Sensei is.

Unfortunately, Phos couldn't truly remember what happened at the sea, but i guess that'd been too much of a progression.

Amethyst pair was amazing, i love their duality so much.
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Dec 30, 2017 6:30 PM

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The cinematography in this show is so good nnnnnnnnnn
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Great episode. Those Lunarians are very strange, appearing and expanding from a crack in the sky.
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Amethyst 33 and Amethyst 84? Have the other ones wound up on the Moon? How many Amethyst are there exactly?

Something about Phos seems to really attract the Lunarians. Hate to say it, but I wouldn't wanna work with her either.

"Explain yourself!" Whoa, Bort, why are you flinging that shit around like Phos did something wrong (other than, y'know, her existence being a weird magnet for Lunarians)? It's unfortunate about the Amethysts, but what did you expect Phos to do about it?
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