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Jul 5, 2017 8:09 PM

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Neat little detail; Char and the other recruits were using bolt-action .22 caliber riffles for basic marksmanship training as has been done in reality for over a hundred years.
Aug 1, 2017 6:15 AM
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Rei366 said:
@reiko4509 He's simply applying Edmond Dantes strategy here. He wants to circulate among his preys in order to take revenge when the best occasions arise. The war climat will only help him to gravitate in the right circles by using his soldier status.


So if I understand this right, in order for him to get close to the head of the Zabi family, he's at this point just causing chaos. Let the two factions fight, then hit the Zabis while they're vulnerable?

Char is nuts. He's a misanthrope that we're all fascinated with. He has a Zabi right in front of him, not sure why he just doesn't dispatch him quickly.

Anyway, great episode. I'm curious to see how quickly his militant environmentalism matures.
I'm still again interested to see why/how he grows to want


Animation was great for the most part. I'm hooked back on UC Gundam for sure. If this level of production continues for Gundam, I'll be more than satisfied.
Aug 1, 2017 7:16 AM

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@laughterjones That's how Yasuhiko decided to make him extremely important to the One Year War. I still think it gives him a far too heavy weight in the universe, but I guess it was mandatory as the character totally outdid 0079 and Gundam in general in the culture.

Why didn't he kill Garma ? I will reuse "Le Compte de Monte Cristo", where Dantes tricked the naive son of his prey in a friendship in order to come closer to the people he wanted to take out (that and the money helped him to gravitate in the same circles). Ultimately, in Gundam, Char reaches the likes of Dozzle and Kycilia.
Also, there is still this line of Char in 0079: "you could have been a friend" or something, who insists on the fact he actually didn't despise him or anything (beyond his name).

About what you call environmentalism, it's his way to inherit his father's Zeonism. It starts in 0079, where he suddenly goes from revenge-focused to trying to convince his sister that he has taken over their father (before reverting back to revenge as suddenly). You see him drifting constantly between the revenge for his parents/mother (his only reason to live), his men rivalry with Amuro (over their abilities, over a girl, over both), him trying to "justify" his father's life.
The Origin, by Yasuhiko, seems to consider that his strongest loss was his deceased mother (probably to connect properly with Char's Counterattack). While his father doesn't seem more a driven man than a loving family head, suggesting Char simply "reproduces" his father's behaviour (in term of preaching) to "justify" him. (sorry, I saw this inother fictions but I don't know how to say it properly in english)

PS: if I am allowed, may I advise you to check the magnificent books published by Vertical to re-live the first story ? Also, if you want to revisit Zeta too, it has been entirely broadcasted on gundam.info (YouTube).
Aug 17, 2017 5:47 AM
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This episode was a nice turn in the plot, about the Casval life, and his transformation in Char, and how started he personal revenge!!!
Another great episode of one hour to enjoy!!!
Jan 30, 2018 4:28 AM

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Best episode so far, to think Casval already possessed the abilities of a new type at this point in time...
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Aug 1, 2019 3:26 AM

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Kycilia wants Casval dead.
Edouard is with Char.
Dat gun.
Edouard and Char are switching places.
Those officers are really slow for not noticing their eyes.
Edouard got on the shuttle.
Dat explosion. Edouard is dead.
Dem shades.
Gundam no basuket.
4A Squared.
Char is 18.
His eyeground pigments are abnormal.
Dat girl in the swimsuit in the pic.
Minovsky.
UC 0076.
Garma fell.
Garma is moving in.
Sayla is back.
Sayla will become a doctor.
Lino got Char to goof.
Dem questions.
Dat slap.
Shaft headtilt.
Pick it up!
Dat collision.
Dat rocket boost. Dat explosion.
Mobile Suits.
Lino approaches Char.
Lino knows the truth.
Dat head gear.
Zenna is 20.
Lino is dead.
Dawn Rebellion.
Red is a good color.
Its that boy.
Amuro Ray. Age 13.
Haro is Amuro's friend.
Side 7.
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Aug 10, 2019 5:13 PM

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So when Char's friend figured out it was really Casval, instead of turning him in he was more excited it was Daikun's son. Poor Char, guess that guy wasn't really his friend after all lol, didn't even care what happened to the real Char.

Pretty clever method for "Char" to get rid of the guy. Cold as hell having to listen to him begging for help when their own friends killed him
Aug 29, 2019 9:15 AM

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Damn. Char is probably the only character I like from the whole UC route.
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Nov 4, 2019 4:56 AM
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Absolutely fantastic episode. Char (aka Casval, Edouard Mass) is a smart, cunning mofo. The way he riles Garma is a masterstroke in manipulation. And then doing Char's friend in...absolutely ruthless
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Mar 21, 2020 8:26 AM

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Char "I have never betrayed anyone in my entire life" Aznable.
May 28, 2020 4:29 PM
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What a blast of an OVA.
It keeps getting better, the animation was the best yet, and the glimpses of mobile suit fights we had, showcased really epic action and fluidity.
High budget overall, even enjoyed the ending music.
I haven't watched any other Gundam other than Turn A and IBO series, so this is the first time I m meeting this cast and the original timeline.
Now to my only negative point with the OVAs so far:

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It's getting interesting! Char is sure evil genius, I feel bad for the real Char and Lino .__.
He calmly killed those two but still care for Garma. Not sure if that is his strategy befriending him though


Fucking Casval itself!
There is no way I can sympathize with his character, fuck no.
And I know currently, I m not in a mood for ruthless MCs, I don't approve anything of what he has done, he is backstabbing people without a sweat, I felt for the real Char Aznable, he was a cool guy, and was friendly to Casval even.

He is an interesting character but not relatable, ever since his childhood he had that arrogant look to it, that I hoped would be softened, maybe into someone that still looked for revenge, but would feel more conflicted and divided, more human.

I really had the wrong impression of Char and this original timeline, never would I have thought he was such a bastard motherfucker.

I m invested to see how far he can get, but I don't expect to cry if he dies, I would rather be waiting that moment to say, you deserved it, you fucker.

Either way, this journey of Char fucking everyone around to get what he wants, been really interesting so far, let's see where this goes to, and I hope there will be someone to put some resistance to his dastardly plans!

Also seems like some stuff is different from the original timeline Gundam, and this is also a retelling with some differences, guess that will help me to watch the original more since it is not a copypaste.
Jul 17, 2020 5:30 PM

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I like that Casval (Char) is going to kill everyone whoever gets in his way, whether its an ally or not. Amd I don't blame him for killing Lino Fernandez since there was a good chance he would reveal his secret sooner or later.

This incident is going to cause more tension between the Federation and Zeon.

Pretty good. 4/5

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Oct 13, 2020 2:03 PM

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well that was interesting, wow they really are taking their time explaining to us the events that unravel here into the one year war. this was all very nice, i must say don really get why but the CGI here is really good and fluid as far as i'm concerned.

NIce ending song once again

goin for the next episode now..........
Nov 17, 2020 2:04 PM

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What's with char's gaze being intimidating to others? they repeat it so much that could be a meme already :D i know the japanese are scared of foreigner's eye color but this over the top

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Jan 28, 2021 8:53 PM

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Absolutely incredible. From a young military cadet to the Char we all know, fear, and love; what an episode.
Here we go again...
Jul 6, 2021 3:58 PM

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Char was always one to eliminate anyone who got in his way.

To think, the "One Year War" unfolded because of Char. He was always powerful, but never sane.

Sep 10, 2023 2:50 AM
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Awesome episode full of intense action and very clean art style. It's also a nice nod to the fans to introduce Amuro and his father at the end of the episode.
Sep 28, 2023 10:21 PM

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Char is pretty unhinged.. but cool as hell.

kinda see what people have been talking about, looking forward to seeing more crazy shit lol
also wouldn't it be nice if Char and Garma could just have some rough sex?

Oct 6, 12:13 PM

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I had some issues with this episode:

a) Casval's plan to take Char's identity was more convoluted than it needed to be. He could have just killed him on the way to the airport rather than what ended up happening which required an element of luck.

b) I'm not sure how he would have fooled military doctors about his fake eye condition.

c) His army roommate suspected he wasn't Char and...did nothing about it for 3 years?

Otherwise it was good stuff. To address a few issues brought up in this thread:

1) I imagine his plan to infiltrate Zeon forces and not join the Federation was also because deep down he's a proud member of Zeon, so ultimately after he had gotten his revenge he would have become leader of Zeon himself. He's an aristocrat at the end of the day.

2) I guess people are getting freaked out at Char's intensity because of subtle Newtype shenanigans. I'd rather that than the usual anime cliche of 'bloodlust'.
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