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Jul 3, 2017 10:14 PM
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http://nypost.com/2017/06/30/i-love-my-sex-doll-because-she-never-grumbles/

So most people know about the dwindling birthrate in Japan, so you gotta wonder how these guys are fulfilling their desires... well aside from animu waifus and dating sims it seems sex dolls are a really popular option. Tbh I can't be too hard on these guys these, it sounds like most of them have sexless and loveless marriages.

What are your thoughts on these sex dolls though?

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."
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Jul 3, 2017 10:40 PM
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when running from reality is easier thing to do than faced it, who wouldn't?
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Jul 3, 2017 10:44 PM
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Not surprising at all. Sex robots will be the end of humanity.
Jul 3, 2017 11:29 PM
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Japan barely make babies and now they using sex dolls? shit they're gonna experience lack in young workers in the future if the majority of men end up having sexual intercourse with sex dolls rather than nutting in women. But as long as their satisfied I guess its cool.







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Jul 3, 2017 11:35 PM
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This probably ha to do with their views of sex in general. They probably feel too embarrassed to fully enjoy themselves with a partner.
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Jul 3, 2017 11:42 PM
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well they just want less demanding love/sex lol

sex dolls will eventually evolve to sex robots sooner or later
Jul 3, 2017 11:44 PM
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What the guy above me said!
Jul 3, 2017 11:45 PM
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When i look at Japanese women i don't blame them.
Jul 3, 2017 11:50 PM
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traed said:
This probably ha to do with their views of sex in general. They probably feel too embarrassed to fully enjoy themselves with a partner.


yep and usually people that buy sex dolls are like unattractive to the opposite sex anyway

and ye some of them also have high expectations of themselves like sexual performance anxiety or some other debilitating thing that lowers their sexual confidence more

Jul 3, 2017 11:56 PM
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Where did you get that title from? This is only one case of a man wanting to marry a sex doll, not a whole population.

I'm quite skeptical of this attempt by the media to push this 'weird Japan' stereotype. The fertility rate in Japan is low because of pressures of working, but the Japanese still have interest in fucking each other, I can assure you. Japan's fertility rate is higher than quite a few European countries, including Germany, Spain and Italy.

Also, remember to be respectful to lady bots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl6s9rMEl-4

Jul 3, 2017 11:57 PM

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j0x said:
traed said:
This probably ha to do with their views of sex in general. They probably feel too embarrassed to fully enjoy themselves with a partner.


yep and usually people that buy sex dolls are like unattractive to the opposite sex anyway

and ye some of them also have high expectations of themselves like sexual performance anxiety or some other debilitating thing that lowers their sexual confidence more



Not necisarily. Some might just have anxiety problems or just dont have time for a relationship or they want to practice sex stuff without someone to judge if they screw up or look stupid.

Not necisarily confidence just they seem to view sex as embarrassing or maybe even shameful.
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So do Japanese women prefer German men to Japanese men by any chance?
Jul 4, 2017 12:02 AM
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traed said:
j0x said:


yep and usually people that buy sex dolls are like unattractive to the opposite sex anyway

and ye some of them also have high expectations of themselves like sexual performance anxiety or some other debilitating thing that lowers their sexual confidence more



Not necisarily. Some might just have anxiety problems or just dont have time for a relationship or they want to practice sex stuff without someone to judge if they screw up or look stupid.

Not necisarily confidence just they seem to view sex as embarrassing or maybe even shameful.


ye that maybe it too, i mean we are talking about a lot of people here anyway like thousands/millions of them so a lot of factors are at play
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traed said:
j0x said:


yep and usually people that buy sex dolls are like unattractive to the opposite sex anyway

and ye some of them also have high expectations of themselves like sexual performance anxiety or some other debilitating thing that lowers their sexual confidence more



Not necisarily. Some might just have anxiety problems or just dont have time for a relationship or they want to practice sex stuff without someone to judge if they screw up or look stupid.

Not necisarily confidence just they seem to view sex as embarrassing or maybe even shameful.


Not true. It was true in the Meiji period that sex attitudes were very restrictive (masturbation was banned) but sex attitudes in Japan have been very liberated since the post-war period. The media had been pushing this idea of Japanese youth losing interest in sex with one another but actually they're having more sex than ever:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2013/10/23/are_japanese_people_really_having_less_sex_than_anyone_else.html
http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/yes-japanese-people-still-have-sex/
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Shoegum said:
traed said:


Not necisarily. Some might just have anxiety problems or just dont have time for a relationship or they want to practice sex stuff without someone to judge if they screw up or look stupid.

Not necisarily confidence just they seem to view sex as embarrassing or maybe even shameful.


Not true. It was true in the Meiji period that sex attitudes were very restrictive (masturbation was banned) but sex attitudes in Japan have been very liberated since the post-war period. The media had been pushing this idea of Japanese youth losing interest in sex with one another but actually they're having more sex than ever:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2013/10/23/are_japanese_people_really_having_less_sex_than_anyone_else.html
http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/yes-japanese-people-still-have-sex/


I wasn't really basing off media but from some views of Japanese people I spoke with as well as one odd case of a young Japanese couple dying of heart attacks from having sex with eachother the first time. Also I wasnt really implying it applies to everyone.
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Not true. It was true in the Meiji period that sex attitudes were very restrictive (masturbation was banned) but sex attitudes in Japan have been very liberated since the post-war period. The media had been pushing this idea of Japanese youth losing interest in sex with one another but actually they're having more sex than ever:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2013/10/23/are_japanese_people_really_having_less_sex_than_anyone_else.html
http://knowmore.washingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/yes-japanese-people-still-have-sex/


I wasn't really basing off media but from some views of Japanese people I spoke with as well as one odd case of a young Japanese couple dying of heart attacks from having sex with eachother the first time. Also I wasnt really implying it applies to everyone.

dying of heart attacks during sex? must have had some sort of heart condition.
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If it contributes to their happiness I don't see the problem. Seems to be less about the sex and more about the emotional support tho. Which is even sadder, when your wife can't even give you that, why bother staying married? No sex is the one thing, but when there is just no human relationship at all between the marriage partners it's just depressing.
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Jul 4, 2017 2:18 AM
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If it contributes to their happiness I don't see the problem. Seems to be less about the sex and more about the emotional support tho. Which is even sadder, when your wife can't even give you that, why bother staying married? No sex is the one thing, but when there is just no human relationship at all between the marriage partners it's just depressing.


males needing emotional support? thats so gay according to society
hypermasculinity is what society wants for males

thats why i cannot blame this males too for choosing sex dolls
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If it contributes to their happiness I don't see the problem. Seems to be less about the sex and more about the emotional support tho. Which is even sadder, when your wife can't even give you that, why bother staying married? No sex is the one thing, but when there is just no human relationship at all between the marriage partners it's just depressing.


males needing emotional support? thats so gay according to society
hypermasculinity is what society wants for males

thats why i cannot blame this males too for choosing sex dolls


Is this the time where I post 'This is why I need feminism as a male' memes?

But I wonder, isn't hypermasculinity outdated already in most societies? I don't think it's nearly as present and idealized anymore as a few decades ago. I mean masculinity doesn't seem to be the ideal for japanese male idols for example. So is this really the problem behind the issues in japanese society?

I'd have said it's more because of their weird dating habits like marriage meetings and stuff where people just get married for the sake of being married, which leads to loveless marriages like this which are kept up for the sake of appearances (and maybe the kids).

Not saying that hypermasculinity expectations aren't still a problem, I just don't think it's the biggest problem and something that has been improving for a while now.
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Pullman said:
j0x said:


males needing emotional support? thats so gay according to society
hypermasculinity is what society wants for males

thats why i cannot blame this males too for choosing sex dolls


Is this the time where I post 'This is why I need feminism as a male' memes?

But I wonder, isn't hypermasculinity outdated already in most societies? I don't think it's nearly as present and idealized anymore as a few decades ago. I mean masculinity doesn't seem to be the ideal for japanese male idols for example. So is this really the problem behind the issues in japanese society?

I'd have said it's more because of their weird dating habits like marriage meetings and stuff where people just get married for the sake of being married, which leads to loveless marriages like this which are kept up for the sake of appearances (and maybe the kids).

Not saying that hypermasculinity expectations aren't still a problem, I just don't think it's the biggest problem and something that has been improving for a while now.


ye i did not mean hypermasculinity as the major factor here but when talking about thousands to millions of people then multiple factors will come up

i think the main factor for japan's declining birthrate that is also the problem of all or most rich countries is that giving economic power to woman will give them a choice to not be a mother and become independent
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-women-can-save-the-planet/
https://medium.com/@kara.marie.skinner/bill-nye-empowering-women-lowers-the-birthrate-adeed4d704c3
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Disappointed but not surprised. And it's gonna get worse.


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Is this the time where I post 'This is why I need feminism as a male' memes?

But I wonder, isn't hypermasculinity outdated already in most societies? I don't think it's nearly as present and idealized anymore as a few decades ago. I mean masculinity doesn't seem to be the ideal for japanese male idols for example. So is this really the problem behind the issues in japanese society?

I'd have said it's more because of their weird dating habits like marriage meetings and stuff where people just get married for the sake of being married, which leads to loveless marriages like this which are kept up for the sake of appearances (and maybe the kids).

Not saying that hypermasculinity expectations aren't still a problem, I just don't think it's the biggest problem and something that has been improving for a while now.


ye i did not mean hypermasculinity as the major factor here but when talking about thousands to millions of people then multiple factors will come up

i think the main factor for japan's declining birthrate that is also the problem of all or most rich countries is that giving economic power to woman will give them a choice to not be a mother and become independent
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-women-can-save-the-planet/
https://medium.com/@kara.marie.skinner/bill-nye-empowering-women-lowers-the-birthrate-adeed4d704c3


I mean I don't even see declining birthrates as a problem. Overpoppulation is not desirable imo. It's bad for a society that is very exclusive and doesn't want to rely on immigration (tough luck, Japan) but it's good for planet earth as whole since less people is an improvement for sure.
This way we won't need Janus

For me the problem is more how unhappy these people seem to be in relationships without ever considering ending them. I mean the guy in the story even has a kid so it's not like he's responsible for declinging birthrates, but he still ended up relying on a doll for emotional and sexual satisfaction because that's how little he and his wife want to have to do with each other. I see those relationship dynamics as problematic in themselves, the whole overblown birthrate issue doesn't really concern me personally. It's a funny meme but that's it.
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looks like a great thing. you can clean them with desinfection spray. you can't do the same with a real woman.

Pullman said:
but it's good for planet earth as whole since less people is an improvement for sure.
This way we won't need Janus

africans won't build your space rockets and robots


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Pullman said:
j0x said:


ye i did not mean hypermasculinity as the major factor here but when talking about thousands to millions of people then multiple factors will come up

i think the main factor for japan's declining birthrate that is also the problem of all or most rich countries is that giving economic power to woman will give them a choice to not be a mother and become independent
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-women-can-save-the-planet/
https://medium.com/@kara.marie.skinner/bill-nye-empowering-women-lowers-the-birthrate-adeed4d704c3


I mean I don't even see declining birthrates as a problem. Overpoppulation is not desirable imo. It's bad for a society that is very exclusive and doesn't want to rely on immigration (tough luck, Japan) but it's good for planet earth as whole since less people is an improvement for sure.
This way we won't need Janus

For me the problem is more how unhappy these people seem to be in relationships without ever considering ending them. I mean the guy in the story even has a kid so it's not like he's responsible for declinging birthrates, but he still ended up relying on a doll for emotional and sexual satisfaction because that's how little he and his wife want to have to do with each other. I see those relationship dynamics as problematic in themselves, the whole overblown birthrate issue doesn't really concern me personally. It's a funny meme but that's it.


ah ok

i just like to add that i do not see declining birthrate as a economic problem today too with how automation like robots and AI are progressing so fast
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looks like a great thing. you can clean them with desinfection spray. you can't do the same with a real woman.

Pullman said:
but it's good for planet earth as whole since less people is an improvement for sure.
This way we won't need Janus

africans won't build your space rockets and robots


I have space rockets and robots? I didn't know that. Honestly what is your point?

Also what kind of racism is this? With the right education africans can do engineering just as good as anyone else. I'm assuming that Japanese are skilled in those areas not by birth but because of their education system. If they really run out of people they just need to allow some immigration to fill the free spots, problem solved.
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That's just one guy, and I'm pretty sure he has a mental disorder... lol....
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Pullman said:
Nigami_Shin said:
looks like a great thing. you can clean them with desinfection spray. you can't do the same with a real woman.


africans won't build your space rockets and robots


I have space rockets and robots? I didn't know that. Honestly what is your point?

Also what kind of racism is this? With the right education africans can do engineering just as good as anyone else. I'm assuming that Japanese are skilled in those areas not by birth but because of their education system. If they really run out of people they just need to allow some immigration to fill the free spots, problem solved.


well if you think so. anyway replacing one society with another one can't be the solution, because that's what would ultimately happen.


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Good on them for displaying the fortitude of cuckqueaning their wives with a doll. I mean, I accept my robo wife of the future and all. But damn son! I salute you! You actually convinced her through whatever marital circumstance to live with that public humiliation. You Sirs are innovative and forward thinkers in our field.



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Can't really blame them, their society is so demanding in many ways for work that they wouldn't have time to find a woman and if they enjoy their sex doll and prefer it to a woman I don't see a problem.
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I would rather have a sex doll than a real girl too. Women have soft hearts and I can't stand the wailing of women.

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Th countdown has truly started, and no immigration is not the answer (as in they don't want it outside of elder care), it's Japan not the US.


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Where did you get that title from? This is only one case of a man wanting to marry a sex doll, not a whole population.

I'm quite skeptical of this attempt by the media to push this 'weird Japan' stereotype. The fertility rate in Japan is low because of pressures of working, but the Japanese still have interest in fucking each other, I can assure you. Japan's fertility rate is higher than quite a few European countries, including Germany, Spain and Italy.

Also, remember to be respectful to lady bots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl6s9rMEl-4

Op works for nbc

he makes shit up
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i will gladly take you japanese women. you will be loved like never before
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>Cites an article that only lists two individual cases as evidence of there being a sex doll epidemic

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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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I mean, it's Japan...? You should expected the unexpected when it comes to Japan.
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*A few Japanese individuals prefer sex dolls to real women*
This ain't youtube, no need to make these click-batey titles.
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Sex dolls have only one problem. They're too expensive.

If you could get a well made, realistic one for under $1000, real women would already be obsolete, but I have a bad feeling that they will never be that cheap, so VR will be the "choice of the lower class" next decade.

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A preference for sex dolls would be a product of the oversexualized culture they are exposed to. That is to be expected when people give in to lust.
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i prefer sex dools too
rea mel can and will reject whenever i made any sort of advances on my part, attempting and failing in my relations with them is a constant reminder of my lack of capacity and control over other, so of course and any sane human being would look for a safer form of sexual interaction
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Wifey- "Your Honor he cheated on me with a sex doll! Not only that, he spends all of his time and energy on it!"

Husbando- "Your honor! *Husbando motions to well dressed doll sitting next to him* She clearly isn't real..."

Judge- "Case dismissed".
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Sex dolls are the final redpill. Soon, women will be obsolete and we can just fuck mannequins.
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Sex dolls are the final redpill. Soon, women will be obsolete and we can just fuck mannequins.


Wifey- "Your honor! The passion is gone! We do not even have sex anymore!"

Husbando- "... That isn't technically true your Honor. I am mind fucking her right now..."

Judge- "I see. I will allow it."
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I don't understand how anyone can get off to sex dolls, they're creepy as fuck to me no matter how "realistic" they look.
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Japan, you have some of the marvelous things in the world but at the same time you have some of the most fucked up things in the world too.





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spuukiebuugi said:
I don't understand how anyone can get off to sex dolls, they're creepy as fuck to me no matter how "realistic" they look.

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Japan, you have some of the marvelous things in the world but at the same time you have some of the most fucked up things in the world too.


So dildos and shower "massagers" then...

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I don't understand how anyone can get off to sex dolls, they're creepy as fuck to me no matter how "realistic" they look.

FRamzy said:
Japan, you have some of the marvelous things in the world but at the same time you have some of the most fucked up things in the world too.


So dildos and shower "massagers" then...


never did I once say I use dildos or vibrators brah
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spuukiebuugi said:
Soverign said:


So dildos and shower "massagers" then...


never did I once say I use dildos or vibrators brah


Well... to be perfectly honest, I wasn't attempting to get that admission out of ya. I was merely seeking input on them.

Now, back to my dragon genitalia vaginal fleshlight I go!!!
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Pullman said:
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looks like a great thing. you can clean them with desinfection spray. you can't do the same with a real woman.


africans won't build your space rockets and robots


I have space rockets and robots? I didn't know that. Honestly what is your point?

Also what kind of racism is this? With the right education africans can do engineering just as good as anyone else. I'm assuming that Japanese are skilled in those areas not by birth but because of their education system. If they really run out of people they just need to allow some immigration to fill the free spots, problem solved.


The entirety of History disagrees with you, Africa has never accomplished anything, ever.

Also, Japan does not need immigration (this coming from someone who will be immigrating there in a few years), especially not from Disease ridden places.
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Gotta say, this guy has great taste xD
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"Japanese men" aka the one that got interviewed. It's just someone who has either a "lifeless" fetish or he's just mentally retarded. That dude got a wife and daughter. If your that lonely and just want to fuck... then maaayyyybe it's okay, but even then a fleshlight is more than enough. I've never tried it, and i never will, but i can't imagine a sex doll feels so much better than your hand. And if you're treating that thing like a real person and talk to it etc. than you're definitely mentally retarded.
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