Gintama° Episode 51 Discussion

sadpwner said:
Two main problems:
The show consisted mostly of serious (non-comedy) arcs. The problem with serious Gintama arcs is that they are generally generic shounen crap. They are absurdly predictable and always lack proper development resulting in extremely forced outcomes. They also almost always end up with some motto that the villain or main cast learns while regretting his actions/past. That part in particular is cringe as fuck. They use the same formula every time. There's also barely any tension because you already know the main cast won't die. They will defy logic and live no matter what.

The characters are also inconsistent. Shinpachi in particular is useless but he whoops enemies easily when it comes to serious arcs. In addition, characters like Nobume, Zenzo and Isaburou have the most convenient back stories. They are given certain motives and then, they pull out these random back stories mid-way creating massive twists in their motives. This would be fine if it was foreshadowed. However, Gintama doesn't go over their back stories nearly enough to warrant any of these developments. Without already reading the manga, there's no way you could logically follow these developments.

I favour Gintama comedy but this season had pretty weak comedy. It's nothing compared to what we received in the older seasons. While some of it was mildly funny, the rest was a disappointment. There were two main problems.

There were often these glimpses of comedy that occurred during the "serious arc" or mid-fight. The lack of purpose and clash with the mood left an impression of it being out of place. Did they serve any purpose beyond our mere entertainment? Not often enough. I understand humour can be used as plot devices to convey ideas but this was unfortunately not always the case. Seeing as these are "serious arcs", they should make an effort to make proper use of plot devices.

Let me correct myself. While the the episodes committed wholly to humour were entertaining to watch, they consisted of a very small portion of the anime. The Confessional Arc, Afro Arc and Dekobokko Arc was what really stood out. Unfortunately, this only consisted of 7 episodes out of 51. Outside of those 7 episodes is a dark and baron wasteland. Most of the comedy was just predictable and too generic/repetitive for its own good. You guys should have noticed right? The few glimpses of comedy we got outside of those 7 episodes can hardly be compared to the Gintama comedy we know and love. Honestly, any trained manga author could probably reproduce the humour without much thought. Gintama is known for its ingenious comedy that continues to surprise and impress most audiences. This generic piece of work they tried to pass off as Gintama does not live up to its name.

Gintama dot is certainly a disappointment when compared to its prequels. Overall, Gintama dot is a 5/10.

The quality of each episode varies. 5 is an average.

Emirius said:
Now all we need are movie versions of Shogun Asassination arc and Farewell Shinsengumi :D untill the next season

small44 said:
People hate serious arc in Gintama with no valid reason and people hate episodic episodes in Katekyo Hitman Reborn with no valid reason.

Zack312 said:
As expected. the last ep was very well done, a nice finish up for this season. I was kinda hoping though that the Yorozuya could had showed up in the end or something and maybe apologizing to the viewers that they were ending the series again or that they skipped a lots of comedy arcs lol
Well having that short preview for a new season is better than nothing I guess.

Now I"m just going to have a short rewiew for this years Gintama season

Well then, I am know just going to have a short rewiew of this Gintama”s season in which had a lots of good things going to it but some small bad things as well unfortunately. Firstly, it seemed that this time the anime was produced by some different studio or well it was some B-studio that was connected to Sunrise in some way but that doesn”t really matter. What matters was the animation that was a bit different from last time. The characters faces were drawn the same as they had almost been fortunately but the animation this time looked quite a lot more bright and some extra details were added to the world and the characters of it. This looked quite nice at some times but some other times it looked quite sloppy escpieclly in the serious arcs. In that regard, while this new animation is good I would had preferred the old style a bit more.

Next, about the actual anime, the start of season was hilarious as they characters broke the fourth wall once more and apologize for once again returning on screen, Shortly after the series started right where it left out two years ago it went out air and it felt like we all had return to same old days of the show. This dream continue through like until the34 episode when the it was suddenly relewd that the show was going to do the SA arc while the series still had a lots of comedy arcs that haven”t been animated in which could had filled an entire cours or so. This of course like most other manga readers of the series came like a huge shock to me and of course I had a lots of mixed feelings about it at first. Thoughs like why did they decided to something like that? Was it because of budget? Greed? Or something complete different? This is just a stupid theory of mine but maybe the reason that they industry decided to return the anime in the first place after had announced that the movie was going to be its ending was just because of the SA arc and the direction that the manga was going at time. Maybe since it looked like that the manga was now going to go into a actual conclusion maybe it was that that they actually were interested most in animate rather than all the comedy chapters before it?

Who Knows, I don”t know the situation behind the studio and their circumstances, but what I do know is that even though they skipped some material they were never unfateful to the actual content that they took out from the manga. Every ep was very well done most at the time and unlike the first 200-ep Gintama season they didn”t use fillers nor unnecessary edits in the eps. They even got more creative with the series and used themes and effects in the eps that made it more fun to watch rather than just read it, like the logos that they used for the serious arcs or the kuroko parody pause seguence lol despise some bad decision the studio did put love into their works and they knew how it series style and themed worked.

However when it came to the most important parts that was of course the grand SA and FS Arcs they did do some small mistakes their. To put it shortly, the SA arc had a good pace and the perfect amount of ep for it, but the animation in it was sometime sloppy and it by that point that I kind of figured that the studio had their money problems and were maybe forced to end the series earlier. Next when it came to the FS Arc in which was also my favourite arc from the manga things became a little negative as well. While the animation in this arc was quite good or amazing at most times the pacing was not the same good. For example In like the 6 ep of the arc, the pacing was way too rushed and they skipped some dialogues that were quite interesting listen to in the manga. Its not like I am total perfection of things but I just think that they could had done it all great and all if they haven”t decided to put in that small one shot chapter ep right in the middle of the arc, does taking up some space that could had been used for the actual arc. But either way , the remaining eps right after that however was surprisingly amazingly well done just like the ep from the start. Overall, despise its small issues, I am quite satisfied for how the adapted the arc in the end.

Overall, As I have given all the previous seaons of the series a 10/10 I"m thinking of being a little more hard this time and rank this season down to 9/10. Don"t missjudge me, I still loved this season as well, it just got some small issues that made them go a little further away from its usual perfection.