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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well, that was a rough episode. Felt bad for one of the girls for getting injured in that fight... Pretty standard stuff I guess. The operation felt like it was rushed though. Lol, I can't get over the fact that one of the doctor's nose is abnormally long The drama escalated more than I had expected, haven't seen Hazama act like this before in awhile. |
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| This series really loves to tackle very serious and controversial events in actual history....Did not expect to see any of this tbh I must say that Johnny is an admirable guy for doing what he does but he's pretty stupid to not see that he needs medical help and I feel bad for Tiara since she clearly loves him Either way I'm looking forward to finding out what is wrong with Johnny as well as who is this guy that is with Yabu (Hopefully he'll as the dude in the Vietnam arc) |
| Well this episode had quite an intense atmosphere, from what happened in the diner, to Hazama trying to figure out what's wrong with Johnny. I know Johnny is fighting for a good cause, but he needs to put his activism on hold and stop being so stubborn about not needing medical attention. Hopefully the guy who showed up with Yabu isn't bad news, but he might be, seeing as how the narrator said their encounter with him will change Johnny's fate. Maybe they mean that in a good way, but I feel like something bad might happen. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
| That nose. |
| How could Maiko become an intern? I knew the writer need some exposition character because of the Medical material. But this is just silly. |
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| Apparently this show ran out of original plots and just decided to have Black Jack jetting all over the world and sticking his nose into the biggest world events of the 60s even though he's a medical student in debt. Smells like bullshit to me but whatever. Also, was that blonde girl supposed to be black? :/ Cause if she was then it looks like it's time for good ol' Japanese colourism. This show has also gotten SO PREDICTABLE. Every plot point can be seen a mile away. Steve getting blown up by a mine last episode, this guy not being able to feel pain this one... It really removes all of the drama when you know exactly what's gonna happen in the first 30 seconds of seeing a character. This show is also so terrible at choosing who to make the villains of its episodes. People against the Vietnamese war, Vietnamese people, black people... There's also the fact that Americans are usually the heroes even though they're usually the ones causing most of the issues in the 60s, like... ok. |
| I didn't expect that kind of plot (discrimination of black people) <<< didn't expect this. It is predictable episode except "discrimination of black people and johnny's illness", but still, i enjoy it overall. |
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| That doctor with the long nose reminds me of older Anime such as Astroboy and Metropolis (even though it's not that old) for some reason. I didn't think that Tiara was black, I thought was white with tanned skin. Their animation makes everyone look the same. |
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| That nose was sooo distracting. A racism focused episode, huh? Where's my Engrish! Also this episode felt rushed and predictable. 3/5 |
GoldenDevilGamerNov 14, 2015 3:34 PM
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| wow they're talking about racism that was cool and unexpected |
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| Holy shit, that guy's arm. |
Shonase said: That nose. yes just yes |
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| This episode had a disappointingly low amount of Engrish for one that takes place in America. |
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| Racism tackled, this anime surely likes to focus on controversial topics and i like it. |
| That nose Johnny's arm was really fucked up |
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| The scene transitions in this episode were sort of abrupt, not that it's the first time in this series, but it's even more so in this chapter. I wish they could do a better job with it. While Johnny is admirable for continuing with the movement, but he prides himself (sort of) for showing the people on the other side of the screen that he can protest without violence. But that just seems like false advertisement, the only reason he can keep standing back up is because he can't feel the pain. No one else would be able to do what he does, people are afraid of pain. |
| I was expecting some engrish. Disappointed. :c |
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Mroujeee said: That nose I remember someone commenting on noses before and I couldn't see it. This doctor however... his nose powers were too much to miss! |
| interesting story this episode. Love the way this series puts in the issues faced during this period of time into the stories. I honestly think Johnny's nerve endings are probably too damaged from the beatings he took or he met with something when he was younger. Can't wait to see pt 2 next week. |
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| Good episode as usual. Interested to see how Black Jack fixes up Johnny. |
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| Hmm Great episode, so they went to Chicago and he is one of the rare cases who can't feel pain but wasn't born like that or was in an accident that severed his nerves meaning he's an entirely different case... Hope Johnny can feel pain again, I know might be hard to understand but a little pain would keep him on his toes. |
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Tokoya said: Either way I'm looking forward to finding out what is wrong with Johnny as well as who is this guy that is with Yabu (Hopefully he'll as the dude in the Vietnam arc) Maybe it is a psychologist that is there to give it a look to BJ's PTSD. straggy said: Apparently this show ran out of original plots and just decided to have Black Jack jetting all over the world and sticking his nose into the biggest world events of the 60s even though he's a medical student in debt. Smells like bullshit to me but whatever. Also, was that blonde girl supposed to be black? :/ Cause if she was then it looks like it's time for good ol' Japanese colourism. Well this series is a Fan-fiction, it was not written by Tezuka, they just have permission to use the characters, this thing is not canon by any means. And Johnny has blue eyes... XD. Also people remember that this is a fan-fiction that uses Osamu Tezuka's characters, being this the case, i actually find it really rare that there is such a huge amount of normal noses (and hair styles). |
| You can easily smell the racist on this forum... |
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| Tbh the nose was only really distracting within the first few seconds. Got used to it pretty quick :p What a hot doctor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
straggy said: Apparently this show ran out of original plots and just decided to have Black Jack jetting all over the world and sticking his nose into the biggest world events of the 60s even though he's a medical student in debt. Smells like bullshit to me but whatever. Pretty obvious you just hate the show and are trying to just nitpick every little thing now. So they're sending our MC to places where major events happened during the 60s are taking place, and? Right off the start you see students protesting the war in the first episode and in the third episode he ends up operating on a "deserter" who's being aided by anti-war activists. It's not like they've randomly started focusing on things that were happening during that time period, every single episode has had something to do with it. As for how he's getting around even though he's in debt, it's pretty obvious if you've been paying attention. He was able to go to Vietnam with the help of the Cult from episode 2 since the leader is actually one of the "donors" who had his face changed to look like him. In this episode he was able to go to America because Maiko invited him to come along. She's probably there because of her internship and was able to invite someone to come with her. straggy said: Also, was that blonde girl supposed to be black? :/ Cause if she was then it looks like it's time for good ol' Japanese colourism. More nitpicking in a show that has people with abnormally large noses. straggy said: This show has also gotten SO PREDICTABLE. Every plot point can be seen a mile away. Steve getting blown up by a mine last episode, this guy not being able to feel pain this one... It really removes all of the drama when you know exactly what's gonna happen in the first 30 seconds of seeing a character. This show is also so terrible at choosing who to make the villains of its episodes. People against the Vietnamese war, Vietnamese people, black people... There's also the fact that Americans are usually the heroes even though they're usually the ones causing most of the issues in the 60s, like... ok. So did you figure out Steve was gonna die by stepping on a mine the moment his life was saved or when he was deliriously running through thick brush then making his way back to Bob while crying, thinking about eating food from back home and having sad music play during that one minute before he died? Also, obviously didn't focus on Johnny's injury and his late reaction to pain so that the audience knew something was wrong with him. Clearly not the case. You know what would've been predictable? Had they just chosen to victimize every anti-war protester and black people while villianizing all the white people. This show does a really good job at having a neutral standpoint in these situations imo. - We had the regular anti-war protesters. - That one group of anti-war activists who were blinded by their ideals and used them to force Hazama into operating on the deserter. - Bob the American soldier who was a respectable fellow until he was driving mad by the death of his last squadmate. - The soldiers of the Vietcong who killed innocents and tortured Hazama & co. - That one Vietcong soldier who risked his life by helping them escape. - The Vietnamese villagers who allowed them to operate on Steve in their village only to have it bombed by Americans. - The racist white people giving Johnny dirty looks but at the same time there were white people who didn't have any issues with him. - The passive black protesters like Johnny and the other group of black people who resorted to violence. Dam that turned out to be a longer response than I expected... |
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Avenger-senpai said: straggy said: Apparently this show ran out of original plots and just decided to have Black Jack jetting all over the world and sticking his nose into the biggest world events of the 60s even though he's a medical student in debt. Smells like bullshit to me but whatever. Pretty obvious you just hate the show and are trying to just nitpick every little thing now. So they're sending our MC to places where major events happened during the 60s are taking place, and? Right off the start you see students protesting the war in the first episode and in the third episode he ends up operating on a "deserter" who's being aided by anti-war activists. It's not like they've randomly started focusing on things that were happening during that time period, every single episode has had something to do with it. As for how he's getting around even though he's in debt, it's pretty obvious if you've been paying attention. He was able to go to Vietnam with the help of the Cult from episode 2 since the leader is actually one of the "donors" who had his face changed to look like him. In this episode he was able to go to America because Maiko invited him to come along. She's probably there because of her internship and was able to invite someone to come with her. straggy said: Also, was that blonde girl supposed to be black? :/ Cause if she was then it looks like it's time for good ol' Japanese colourism. More nitpicking in a show that has people with abnormally large noses. straggy said: This show has also gotten SO PREDICTABLE. Every plot point can be seen a mile away. Steve getting blown up by a mine last episode, this guy not being able to feel pain this one... It really removes all of the drama when you know exactly what's gonna happen in the first 30 seconds of seeing a character. This show is also so terrible at choosing who to make the villains of its episodes. People against the Vietnamese war, Vietnamese people, black people... There's also the fact that Americans are usually the heroes even though they're usually the ones causing most of the issues in the 60s, like... ok. So did you figure out Steve was gonna die by stepping on a mine the moment his life was saved or when he was deliriously running through thick brush then making his way back to Bob while crying, thinking about eating food from back home and having sad music play during that one minute before he died? Also, obviously didn't focus on Johnny's injury and his late reaction to pain so that the audience knew something was wrong with him. Clearly not the case. You know what would've been predictable? Had they just chosen to victimize every anti-war protester and black people while villianizing all the white people. This show does a really good job at having a neutral standpoint in these situations imo. - We had the regular anti-war protesters. - That one group of anti-war activists who were blinded by their ideals and used them to force Hazama into operating on the deserter. - Bob the American soldier who was a respectable fellow until he was driving mad by the death of his last squadmate. - The soldiers of the Vietcong who killed innocents and tortured Hazama & co. - That one Vietcong soldier who risked his life by helping them escape. - The Vietnamese villagers who allowed them to operate on Steve in their village only to have it bombed by Americans. - The racist white people giving Johnny dirty looks but at the same time there were white people who didn't have any issues with him. - The passive black protesters like Johnny and the other group of black people who resorted to violence. Dam that turned out to be a longer response than I expected... I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Avenger-senpai said: straggy said: Apparently this show ran out of original plots and just decided to have Black Jack jetting all over the world and sticking his nose into the biggest world events of the 60s even though he's a medical student in debt. Smells like bullshit to me but whatever. Pretty obvious you just hate the show and are trying to just nitpick every little thing now. Most of your response was honestly unnecessary and I don't care but lmao... straggy said: Also, was that blonde girl supposed to be black? :/ Cause if she was then it looks like it's time for good ol' Japanese colourism. More nitpicking in a show that has people with abnormally large noses. Calling this nitpicking, holy shit... Colourism is a really big issue all over the world but especially in anime. Think of all the animes there are where characters should be brown/black and they're not. Magi, Arslan... big major animes constantly whitewash characters. I mean it's whatever in a fantasy anime, you can just let it pass and breath out like "this isn't necessarily the middle east, I GUESS", but this episode is set in America in the 60s AND IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANTI-BLACK RACISM. Making the one black woman in your entire episode noticeably paler than every black man is so shitty. There's also the fact they drew the black men with black features but the black woman is just a copy/paste of the other female faces we've seen in the show and then they coloured her skin slightly darker. This ain't got SHIT to do with the damn artstyle, my god, please actually think before you speak, especially when you gonna just brush racism aside with this strawman "people have big noses in this show" bullshit. And before anyone comes in here like "it's Japan, it doesn't matter!", BLACK PEOPLE EXIST IN JAPAN. THERE ARE BLACK JAPANESE PEOPLE. Just look at Miss Japan 2015, better yet research her story and read about her growing up half-black in Japan. |
straggyNov 19, 2015 10:43 AM
straggy said: Most of your response was honestly unnecessary and I don't care but lmao... Glad you noticed how silly your complaints were. straggy said: Calling this nitpicking, holy shit... Colourism is a really big issue all over the world but especially in anime. Think of all the animes there are where characters should be brown/black and they're not. Magi, Arslan... big major animes constantly whitewash characters. I mean it's whatever in a fantasy anime, you can just let it pass and breath out like "this isn't necessarily the middle east, I GUESS", but this episode is set in America in the 60s AND IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANTI-BLACK RACISM. Making the one black woman in your entire episode noticeably paler than every black man is so shitty. There's also the fact they drew the black men with black features but the black woman is just a copy/paste of the other female faces we've seen in the show and then they coloured her skin slightly darker. This ain't got SHIT to do with the damn artstyle, my god, please actually think before you speak, especially when you gonna just brush racism aside with this strawman "people have big noses in this show" bullshit. And before anyone comes in here like "it's Japan, it doesn't matter!", BLACK PEOPLE EXIST IN JAPAN. THERE ARE BLACK JAPANESE PEOPLE. Just look at Miss Japan 2015, better yet research her story and read about her growing up half-black in Japan. I love how you somehow can't find a way to back up the meat of your complaints but when it comes to this one post, watch out, because shit gets real. What a joke lol. Yes, it is nitpicking. You know why? Because people don't go into a freaking anime and pull out the colorism card just because of one female character, who's presumed to be black, is a lighter shade than the black men so far after 1 episode of the arc. For all we know she may be of mixed race. As for her features, did you want them to give her an afro or something? That's basically the defining feature of all the black males in this show other than their skin tone. |
Avenger-senpaiNov 21, 2015 12:40 AM
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Avenger-senpai said: straggy said: Most of your response was honestly unnecessary and I don't care but lmao... Glad you noticed how silly your complaints were. LMAO. Nah, mate. I just can't be bothered with someone that likes to excuse colourism and that shouts NITPICKING!! NITPICKING!!!!! like a child whenever someone doesn't like a genuinely bad show. straggy said: Calling this nitpicking, holy shit... Colourism is a really big issue all over the world but especially in anime. Think of all the animes there are where characters should be brown/black and they're not. Magi, Arslan... big major animes constantly whitewash characters. I mean it's whatever in a fantasy anime, you can just let it pass and breath out like "this isn't necessarily the middle east, I GUESS", but this episode is set in America in the 60s AND IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANTI-BLACK RACISM. Making the one black woman in your entire episode noticeably paler than every black man is so shitty. There's also the fact they drew the black men with black features but the black woman is just a copy/paste of the other female faces we've seen in the show and then they coloured her skin slightly darker. This ain't got SHIT to do with the damn artstyle, my god, please actually think before you speak, especially when you gonna just brush racism aside with this strawman "people have big noses in this show" bullshit. And before anyone comes in here like "it's Japan, it doesn't matter!", BLACK PEOPLE EXIST IN JAPAN. THERE ARE BLACK JAPANESE PEOPLE. Just look at Miss Japan 2015, better yet research her story and read about her growing up half-black in Japan. I love how you somehow can't find a way to back up the meat of your complaints but when it comes to this one post, watch out, because shit gets real. What a joke lol. Yes, it is nitpicking. You know why? Because people don't go into a freaking anime and pull out the colorism card just because of one female character, who's presumed to be black, is a lighter shade than the black men so far after 1 episode of the arc. For all we know she may be of mixed race. As for her features, did you want them to give her an afro or something? That's basically the defining feature of all the black males in this show other than their skin tone. This sorta shit is the excuse people always pull outta their ass for female characters always being younger, paler and having the same features as each other... When it happens in almost every anime, it's not nitpicking. This happens ALL THE DAMN TIME. But the fact that this show is actually trying to be realistic and about civil rights? Yeah, that makes it way worse. |
straggy said: Avenger-senpai said: Glad you noticed how silly your complaints were. LMAO. Nah, mate. I just can't be bothered with someone that likes to excuse colourism and that shouts NITPICKING!! NITPICKING!!!!! like a child whenever someone doesn't like a genuinely bad show. I love how you somehow can't find a way to back up the meat of your complaints but when it comes to this one post, watch out, because shit gets real. What a joke lol. Yes, it is nitpicking. You know why? Because people don't go into a freaking anime and pull out the colorism card just because of one female character, who's presumed to be black, is a lighter shade than the black men so far after 1 episode of the arc. For all we know she may be of mixed race. As for her features, did you want them to give her an afro or something? That's basically the defining feature of all the black males in this show other than their skin tone. This sorta shit is the excuse people always pull outta their ass for female characters always being younger, paler and having the same features as each other... When it happens in almost every anime, it's not nitpicking. This happens ALL THE DAMN TIME. But the fact that this show is actually trying to be realistic and about civil rights? Yeah, that makes it way worse. Nah, you're just someone who bitches about a show you don't like then complains about getting called out rather than backing up their opinion. What a waste of time. |
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| Dat nose...but that arm, OUCH! |
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| It's like people don't know that this is based on a Tezuka manga (well, manga based on a Tezuka manga) Yeah it was a bit weird how Taira was an intern, considering she's supposed to be black? Or maybe she's supposed to be Latina? A bit hard to tell with the color choice, but I assumed she was black. Other than that, another good episode, and glad it's a multi-part episode. 1-ep stories are just too short, and I'm used to the 50min stories from the OVA. |
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| That nose >.> |
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| i am getting tired of young black jack. how was he even invited to go to that hospital when he is not even an intern yet?? |
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| While I dig how the story tackles a lot of controversial topics throughout history, I'm pretty tired of how Hazama's always looked down upon for being a medical student despite his talents. If they'd stop mentioning that, that'd be great lmao I'd say that not being able to feel pain is more of a perk when he's doing what he's doing but I guess that he can't rely on the doctors to patch him up forever. |
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