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nihikun said: I had this crazy idea when I watched this episode. If it turns out to be correct it might be a spoil so... watch out. WHAT IF she was pregnant, she proposed to her uncle to go live on an island, he refused, then told her parents he wants to marry her, her dad goes I WONT LET YOU DO THAT, she kills them and then the uncle took her on that island she was until she died recently somehow. And her killer was her own child that was born in ultimate secrecy and for even more madness her child's name is the same as the "doll's". "THE PERFECT INSIDER" (INSID"HER" GET IT? XD) The theory was inspired by the absurd thing that was said "what if there was someone with her before the cameras were installed" "for 15 years?" I hope someone reads this and appreciates my effort. y the "she was pregnant and her child was living with her for 15 years in secret" theory is more and more likely |
| i haven't seen if this has been brought up earlier, but is the director the uncle? um also, could someone pls tell me where dr magata's sister has gone? O_o |
-MihairuNov 6, 2015 2:38 AM
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| hey people ^^ i think i know what does 'everything becomes f' means. but the meaning doesn't explain the situation. F is a certain programming language. It is characterised by being highly precise. I think the phrase means 'the time when everything stops being ambiguous and becomes clear'. |
| Director's waifu looked so freakin ugly..... |
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| Loved the philosophy in this episode. The anime seems to touch upon Existentialism to an extent and I'm loving it. We're also learning more about Magata as well which is very intriguing. The mystery deepens but is also coming together slowly. |
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| i know my post was ignored xd but wanted to add that in this sense 'everything becomes f' can also mean the unification, specification of self. |
| Episode similar to those of the past, as narrative structure, but the dialogue is even more compliati not until you reach the final, where you can figure out what are the reasons that gave rise to all the events so far addressed. Drawings and animations good time too. |
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| Decent episode. I guess why the director chose to throw in the flashbacks is so that viewers have ideas to work with even while the main story is paced slowly and gives no new clues to the mystery. I really don't like how the anime Moe acts though. Helpme said: tingy said: Saikawa and Moe I wonder why so many here refers to them like this? I seems strange to me to refer to one person by their given name and the other with their surname. Even in Japanese most people refer to them that way. The novel series is called "S&M series" after their names. Moe is young so people feel comfortable calling her by her given name but Saikawa is a professor, someone in position of authority, hence it doesn't feel right to call him by his given name, plus his surname is also S. |
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This could easily be taken out of context XD |
ani12 said: This could easily be taken out of context XD It's called the S&M book series for a reason :3 |
| Moe has to be one of those most annoying characters I've ever had the displeasure of watching. If she could forget about wanting to bang Saikawa for five minutes and stop getting jealous at every little thing, then MAYBE she's an okay character. Also, the theory I've been seeing about Magata being pregnant and her child killed her is ridiculous. People on the island would know she had a kid, and unless they're all in it together, they wouldn't hide that fact, at least not from Moe and Saikawa. |
People are strange, when you're a stranger |
| a rather slow epside with nothing intersting exept that ending though |
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| Really can not understand Dr. Nagata, it does nothing that makes sense. Moe '' arguing 'with Saikawa left me kind of puzzled |
| Another great episode. AOTS for me. kevinivek said: Don't really care about the philosophical dialogue between Moe and Saikawa lol, the whole point of this series -.- |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| This is so deep I found oil :O The knife seems to be the same one used to kill the director :O Magata being a pure human was epic XD #Truth  |
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| this series has been really good in terms of pace and usage of scenes... but the implied affair btwn shiki and her uncle (who altho is mature beyond her years and has MPD, is still underage) part kinda makes me feel uncomfortable a little bit. But at least now it is indeed much clearer as to what happened 15 years ago. As for who killed Shiki... still not a lot of light shed on that. Nishinosono is growing on me a bit more. One good thing about this series is, there really isnt a need to place any indicator when flashbacks happen, and the flow is pretty smooth. |
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| The show's getting better and better with each episode. I generally disliked the first two episodes and I thought the third one was okay. The fourth one was the first one I enjoyed and this week's episode is even better. I'm really wondering when they'll increase the tension even more. It could turn out to be a pretty interesting mystery thriller rather than just a mystery. |
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| He just fucked a 13 year old girl. He could've waited at least 3 years or something. Also, Perfect Insider's ED is probably the best ED this season for me, it's really catchy. |
| I was hoping for some thing interesting and was sad that it didn't had much. There were too many conversations and not enough action. And holy shit Magata slept with her uncle, eww! |
komasan said: I guess why the director chose to throw in the flashbacks is so that viewers have ideas to work with even while the main story is paced slowly and gives no new clues to the mystery. It also works really well to create a sort of parallel between Moe and Magata. Magata's bedside conversation and subsequent frustration with her uncle plays out so eerily similar to the later confrontation in the episode between Saikawa and Moe about the relative value and nature of "freedom". I also really like how the show's colors are all muted, except for the reds, which were particularly highlighted this week with the jam and wine: |
| "My tables-meet it is I set it down That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain." |
| You really do have to watch these series with an open mind, especially the young Magata scenes... That doesn't make the relationship between her and her uncle right, but people watching would be much better off remembering that Magata has a different set of morals from the rest of us, like Saikawa said. Speaking of Saikawa, he really was sipping on that truth tea at the end there... God help me if this isn't considered one of this year's best shows by the end of it, I'm loving this. |
Shock_Yin said: That can't be, the doll was thrown out because it was bloodied, having been in the scene of the crime. This was long before Magata was killed. |
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| episode fairly criticized for being slow but I liked it. An episode in which is mainly discussed topics such as the morality and especially the freedom. Really, for me, a nice episode. 5/5 |
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| Why do people still think the uncle is Magata's actual blood related uncle? In a lot of Asian cultures the same word for "uncle" is used for older male family friends, or just older men in general without any weird/pervy connotations. It might be her real uncle, but I'm more inclined to think he's a caretaker or mentor of some sort. |
komasan said: Helpme said: I wonder why so many here refers to them like this? I seems strange to me to refer to one person by their given name and the other with their surname. Even in Japanese most people refer to them that way. The novel series is called "S&M series" after their names. Moe is young so people feel comfortable calling her by her given name but Saikawa is a professor, someone in position of authority, hence it doesn't feel right to call him by his given name, plus his surname is also S. That and the S&M is short for "Professor Saikawa and his student Moe." Idk I used to call her Nishinosono because that's the name I heard the most in the drama (and here in the anime too) but it's longer to type and most of the comments refer her as Moe, so it just caught on when I was writing. |
Madlib said: The start of the episode was disturbing Yeah wtf how old is she? 13? |
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて |
| Dude just slept with a 13-year-old girl. |
| All these mysteries are intriguiging, the ending came too quickly. |
| Lots of informational conversation this episode, very interesting I must say. We got a lot of insight into Magata Shiki's personality/ies. |
nihikun said: I had this crazy idea when I watched this episode. If it turns out to be correct it might be a spoil so... watch out. WHAT IF she was pregnant, she proposed to her uncle to go live on an island, he refused, then told her parents he wants to marry her, her dad goes I WONT LET YOU DO THAT, she kills them and then the uncle took her on that island she was until she died recently somehow. And her killer was her own child that was born in ultimate secrecy and for even more madness her child's name is the same as the "doll's". "THE PERFECT INSIDER" (INSID"HER" GET IT? XD) The theory was inspired by the absurd thing that was said "what if there was someone with her before the cameras were installed" "for 15 years?" I hope someone reads this and appreciates my effort. I love it. ...not the pedo uncle impregnanting his niece, just the cool theory. SASHIHARA said: Why do people still think the uncle is Magata's actual blood related uncle? In a lot of Asian cultures the same word for "uncle" is used for older male family friends, or just older men in general without any weird/pervy connotations. It might be her real uncle, but I'm more inclined to think he's a caretaker or mentor of some sort. I was thinking this too up until this episode. No particular reason though. I'm still waiting for it to be confirmed. |
| I liked conversation between Moe and Saikawa, but in the end what Saikawa was talking about could be translated into ''Magata is so kakkoi and awesome and stuff, everything she does is so pure, wow, she is more human than us sugoi '' or something along these lines imo. Last scene got me excited.I think we are about to learn what actually happened in past, which will give us hints to what happened in present. kevinivek said: Who said she is murdered tho? i'm still not going to jump into conclusions about that.Everything might come out as a troll from Magata or something like that.I just want to see how they figure out the murderer...... |
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| Still feels like I'm watching Scooby Doo |
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SASHIHARA said: Why do people still think the uncle is Magata's actual blood related uncle? In a lot of Asian cultures the same word for "uncle" is used for older male family friends, or just older men in general without any weird/pervy connotations. It might be her real uncle, but I'm more inclined to think he's a caretaker or mentor of some sort. Actually the uncle IS her uncle. Why do you think he's in the family dinner at the end of the episode? Not really a spoiler but if you want to know xuhiken said: You people complaining about Moe, she is just in love and lonely, we all have been there. I wonder how faithful to the source material the anime has been so far... According to people who've read the novels, the anime Moe hasn't been very accurate and this episode broke her character. But other than that it is following the story (flashbacks are from separate novel however). |
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| Good episode. Love the dialog between both MCs. Now back to waiting for the next episode to come. GaryL said: Still feels like I'm watching Scooby Doo Sure thing mate..... this screams Scooby Doo from every angle you see it. Thanks for pointing that out [/ s] By the way, make sure you take your daily medicines like the doctor prescribed. Remember, not taking them will make you disorient and delusional, thus a danger to society. |
 We ultimately fear what spawns from within us ~Shinsekai yori Music is freedom. ~Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso |
aikaflip said: You say that now, but it might have everything to do with everything later on.I can't stand all the flashback scenes with Shiki and her uncle. They're disgusting, excessive, and don't contribute much to the story. I mean, wasn't that the same knife that was stabbed into the director when he was in the helicopter? |
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| ^ I'm not talking about the characters in the show. She is called Nishinosono in the show, but viewers refer to her as Moe almost all the time. |
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zero-r said: Good episode. Love the dialog between both MCs. Now back to waiting for the next episode to come. GaryL said: Still feels like I'm watching Scooby Doo Sure thing mate..... this screams Scooby Doo from every angle you see it. Thanks for pointing that out [/ s] By the way, make sure you take your daily medicines like the doctor prescribed. Remember, not taking them will make you disorient and delusional, thus a danger to society. Opinions dude, learn to deal with them... |
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| What is Magata-sensei thinking about... .______. |
| What's with magata giving her uncle the knife |
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