Knights of Sidonia
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May 10, 2014 9:18 AM
#101
DerpHole said: I'm just being nit-picky because these mobile suits are always being shown with their thrusters on, when in actuality it would be better to cut them once you achieved your desired output. "Inertial navigation" is only used effectively in long distances. It makes no sense for them to turn off their thrusters for short distances. |
VeldarthMay 10, 2014 11:32 AM
May 10, 2014 12:06 PM
#102
I liked this episode, survival in space was interesting. Also filtered urine. I'm pretty surprised no one died this episode, this show has not a care in the world when it comes to killing someone off it seems like. |
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May 10, 2014 12:08 PM
#103
dragonlight said: I bet this is how Bear Grylls got his wife, except instead of stranded in space they were in some rainforest or something. I loled at this... Sidonia no Kishi is definitely the surprise of the season, and think that I would not follow it. Too bad it will only have 12 episodes and we're already halfway. |
May 10, 2014 12:31 PM
#104
Why is this so good, even with fanservice shots and silly romance. I inevitably fell in love with this show so I'm fine with everything that tries to accomplish. Not that I mean it was bad, but I usually don't enjoy it in these kinds of anime. |
May 10, 2014 12:36 PM
#105
Akanezora said: Why is this so good, even with fanservice shots and silly romance. I inevitably fell in love with this show so I'm fine with everything that tries to accomplish. Not that I mean it was bad, but I usually don't enjoy it in these kinds of anime. Because photosynthesis fan service is the best kind of fan service |
May 10, 2014 12:53 PM
#106
That was one big ass formation... Didn't expected that defense team to go save them. I guess they owe him their lifes after all, if he hadn't defeated the Gauna, those inexperimented soldier would have had to go fight or at least slow an enemy they don't even know. Nagate is such a fucking boss, waging his life for Hoshijiro. Well, not that she isn't worth it... ;) I don't know if Nagase is in watersport but if yes, he must have been fulfilled xD Anyway, it was really oddly romantic, two souls lost in space. Izana will be mad by how close they are now :P |
«Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
May 10, 2014 3:17 PM
#107
May 10, 2014 6:18 PM
#108
May 10, 2014 6:29 PM
#109
Six pages and no Bear Grylls joke? I know it's old, but still. MAL, you disappoint me. |
May 10, 2014 6:52 PM
#110
Well I have to wonder if it's really necessary to go full nude for photosynthesis, and urine filteration in that skin tight suit (where? o.o) is convenient. But I like the development. There's romantic vibes for sure, but nothing explicit and I'm glad for that. The Hive structures... hm, I wonder if they are Guana nests? Haha, we'll see. That episode flew past and even though I feel like nothing happened, alot of character and plot building was done. |
May 10, 2014 7:10 PM
#111
Mirorin said: Well I have to wonder if it's really necessary to go full nude for photosynthesis, and urine filteration in that skin tight suit (where? o.o) is convenient. But I like the development. There's romantic vibes for sure, but nothing explicit and I'm glad for that. The Hive structures... hm, I wonder if they are Guana nests? Haha, we'll see. That episode flew past and even though I feel like nothing happened, alot of character and plot building was done. Urine recycling is already used by present day astronauts. |
May 10, 2014 7:44 PM
#112
AnimageNeby said: skudoops said: AnimageNeby said: skudoops said: Darkmatterx76 said: a long chain of mechs where each spends its fuel to get a set ways out, and/or a large burst or speed and then the inertia to carry them to their destination. The first one is self explanatory, if each did that then how do they get back if something goes wrong? Something as simple as a rogue asteroid could end up making them lose a ton of mechs/people and failing their mission. Like I said this episode said more without the characters needing to, the formation thing is one of the things I was referring to. The reason for them is obviously to travel large distances while saving a large amount of energy. It's quite clear from this episode that on its own a lone mech can't get very far, but it's likely that the power increase from 3 others greatly offsets the added weight and allows them to travel faster/further while using less energy. The second one also doesn't make sense to do because they'd be travelling so slowly the gap between sidonia, them and nagate would just get larger. Of course their option was just as risky since they practically left Sidonia defenseless but in terms of success it was definitely the best one to use imo. I don't think you quite understand how (motion in) space works. There is no friction in space, so the inertia one has is directly related to the maximum speed achieved when turning the engine off. If you go with full thrusters, you would definitely be far faster than the speed they are drifting around, and you *would keep going at that speed* even if you turned the engines off. The only problem is pinpointing where they are and calculating a trajectory that brings you in close range to them. Then again, with radar that should be easy (even today, with our technology, we can detect objects as small as 10 cm in LEO). Which would also negate your first counterargument, btw, that an asteroid would suddenly smash into them unforeseen. First of all, space is very, very empty: the chance of that happening in deep space is next to impossible. Even if they would be in the middle of an asteroid-belt, it would be very unlikely: contrary to movies, asteroids are not packed one aside the other; there are hundred-thousands of kilometres between them. And even then, asteroids are really easy to detect, due to their seize (and if they're extremely small, they wouldn't pose a threat anymore to the ring of mechs). In fact, I've been wondering what the use is of flying in 4-packs, or in a ring, like in this episode. Normally, this has no advantages. Speed in space is derived from the maximum speed per unit of mass (which gives the inertia and continuous speed, since there is no friction). But 4 engines giving the same thrust at the same time for 4 mass-units are not faster than 1 engine giving that same thrust to 1 mass-unit. One caveat though; I'm speaking of classical propulsion. We do not know how that Higgs-field work (not even *in story* I mean). Maybe those engines create a 'global' field that get exponentially stronger the more engines are creating Higgs-fields in close proximity, or something to that effect. The asteroid was just an example, if they make a big chain and something interferes with it everyone will be lost since no one would have the fuel to get back into position. The part about inertia I concede because I have no idea how movement in space worked and assumed that they would be slowed due to gravity being present everywhere. Third part of my statement is pretty much implying what you've just said. That there's a power increase from the formations that offset the added weight. You are definitely more knowledgeable about the subject than I am, so whatever explanation they give you can tell me if it's plausible or not. Well, the point is, deep space is really, really empty: the chance that something of any considerable mass hits you there, is *extremely* low to non-existent. *In story* one may presume the most likely threat would be the Gauna. But let's face it; if fear of that was the reason, they wouldn't have left Sidonia unprotected in the first place, nor would they have gone without their spears. They were clearly confident that no other Gauna was in the neighbourhood, and the chance of any other 'natural' collisions in deep space is negligible. There is another plausible reason why they didn't 'each' spend its fuel in turn to get a chain of mechs there (and back). That's inertia again. If one (or a couple) of mechs would have to get a whole ring or chain of mechs (aka, all the added mass) moving, the inertia to overcome would be gigantic, and thus, it would start to move very, very slowly. Seen the time-restraint (apparently, it took already 10-11 days to get there, depending on when they left), this might not have been the best option. Nah, in deep space you would only have microgravity. And gravity doesn't inherently slow you down; it can also speed you up. It depends on what direction the gravity is in. If a very heavy object (planetmass) popped up right behind them, it would slow their forward movement, yes. But beside of such an unlikely thing, all trajectories are curves in space (ellipses, and such), and stars are much too far to have any drastic (slowing) influence on it (besides, there are stars in any direction). Basically, your speed remains and you don't slow down, unless one has to escape from a gravity-well. As for what is 'plausible'. On itself, the whole 4-pack/ring thing with the mechs then being able to move faster or more efficient is implausible in reality. At least, with our current understanding of/for all linear propulsion methods, be it chemical, nuclear, etc. Of course, we're talking sci-fi here. And where one once thought things to be impossible, like the warp drive of Startrek, it seems you're never sure (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/164326-nasa-discusses-its-warp-drive-research-prepares-to-create-a-warp-bubble-in-the-lab). Anyway, *within story* they use that higgs drive - which doesn't exist in r/l, and which we don't know much of in the anime neither - and if one wants to explain why a 4 pack would be faster than 1 mech (in comparison to their relative masses), then a possible explanation (again, *in story*) would be that those engines, when activated in close proximity, somehow generate a greater force together, than 4 individual ones apart. Otherwise, the whole set-up with pairing up in quads or rings 'to be faster', doesn't make sense. Of course, one has to have some suspension of disbelief in anime, including this one. And not everything is (scientifically) perfect. But all in all they at least try to do a good job showing the different concepts in space (like gravity). So far, I'm liking the anime a lot. At first I thought the 4 or 5-mech configuration was simply to create stability in the system, and make for simpler more efficient cruise stages, especially if the engines are all synchronized. You are essentially converting several loose mechs into one ship. It wasn't necessarily faster, just easier and possibly more fuel efficient if it reduces the need for course and attitude correction while cruising. The effect would have diminishing returns though, and a 256-mech ring would probably be more unstable than an individual. So it probably has something to do with the fictional drive system they're using. Anyway, I don't see what the big deal is with the filtered urine scene. If I was in space and had such a system in place, I'd be using it *constantly* to stretch my limited water supply as long as possible. Survival situations are no time to be squeamish. On a related note, Wichita Falls, TX has just installed a sewage recycling system on their city water supply which returns treated sewage from that city back into the system (it's very clean). If, however, drinking someone else's filtered pee is some kind of intimate and/or romantic act, then the phrase "Love thy neighbor" is going to have a whole different meaning in Wichita Falls... |
May 10, 2014 7:58 PM
#113
anyone find that the sound on this ep was not that great quality? idk, maybe just the vid i got or my speakers |
May 10, 2014 8:34 PM
#114
Bheaze said: anyone find that the sound on this ep was not that great quality? idk, maybe just the vid i got or my speakers Sound was amazing as usual for me. |
May 11, 2014 5:41 AM
#115
Honestly, I had never seen a CG show with a fanservice so sexy as this. hahahaha I really love this show although it's kinda disappointing this will only have 12 episodes. |
"Everyone wears their own panties inside their heart" - Kousaku Hata |
May 11, 2014 6:24 AM
#116
An episode with a good pace, despite not having any action made up for that final, I confess that took me a few tears, the involvement of the characters being the best thing in the script so far, taking that have been played some important information, reminded me Suisei on Gargantia a bit. |
May 11, 2014 6:39 AM
#117
Another great episode to continue the line of great episodes. All hail Sidonia! |
May 11, 2014 12:59 PM
#119
Mirorin said: Well I have to wonder if it's really necessary to go full nude for photosynthesis Maximizing exposure to the sun. |
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May 11, 2014 8:59 PM
#120
Great episode, Was sort of pissed about how Sidonia didn't stop and wait for them though >:l Also, It got really suggestive with Nagate and Hoshijiro, surprised nothing actually happened. Also, I died when she gave him filtered urine. |
May 12, 2014 1:41 AM
#121
May 12, 2014 2:30 AM
#122
5/5 Episode really good, does not look like an episode of transition, the whole narrative is useful to the story and there are no actions taken at random, but they are all reasoned. Excellent screenplay, the plot and the CG, a little annoying. Another episode that I was not disappointed. Opening very good idea, I do not tire of saying it. OST equally good. In a dangerous situation as one in which the two protagonists find themselves, I do not think I would be the idea of having sex, when there is more to think about. Maybe that idea I would after being saved. ;) I await the next installment with even more interest! * w * |
May 12, 2014 2:04 PM
#123
PaleBlue said: AnimageNeby said: skudoops said: AnimageNeby said: skudoops said: Darkmatterx76 said: a long chain of mechs where each spends its fuel to get a set ways out, and/or a large burst or speed and then the inertia to carry them to their destination. The first one is self explanatory, if each did that then how do they get back if something goes wrong? Something as simple as a rogue asteroid could end up making them lose a ton of mechs/people and failing their mission. Like I said this episode said more without the characters needing to, the formation thing is one of the things I was referring to. The reason for them is obviously to travel large distances while saving a large amount of energy. It's quite clear from this episode that on its own a lone mech can't get very far, but it's likely that the power increase from 3 others greatly offsets the added weight and allows them to travel faster/further while using less energy. The second one also doesn't make sense to do because they'd be travelling so slowly the gap between sidonia, them and nagate would just get larger. Of course their option was just as risky since they practically left Sidonia defenseless but in terms of success it was definitely the best one to use imo. I don't think you quite understand how (motion in) space works. There is no friction in space, so the inertia one has is directly related to the maximum speed achieved when turning the engine off. If you go with full thrusters, you would definitely be far faster than the speed they are drifting around, and you *would keep going at that speed* even if you turned the engines off. The only problem is pinpointing where they are and calculating a trajectory that brings you in close range to them. Then again, with radar that should be easy (even today, with our technology, we can detect objects as small as 10 cm in LEO). Which would also negate your first counterargument, btw, that an asteroid would suddenly smash into them unforeseen. First of all, space is very, very empty: the chance of that happening in deep space is next to impossible. Even if they would be in the middle of an asteroid-belt, it would be very unlikely: contrary to movies, asteroids are not packed one aside the other; there are hundred-thousands of kilometres between them. And even then, asteroids are really easy to detect, due to their seize (and if they're extremely small, they wouldn't pose a threat anymore to the ring of mechs). In fact, I've been wondering what the use is of flying in 4-packs, or in a ring, like in this episode. Normally, this has no advantages. Speed in space is derived from the maximum speed per unit of mass (which gives the inertia and continuous speed, since there is no friction). But 4 engines giving the same thrust at the same time for 4 mass-units are not faster than 1 engine giving that same thrust to 1 mass-unit. One caveat though; I'm speaking of classical propulsion. We do not know how that Higgs-field work (not even *in story* I mean). Maybe those engines create a 'global' field that get exponentially stronger the more engines are creating Higgs-fields in close proximity, or something to that effect. The asteroid was just an example, if they make a big chain and something interferes with it everyone will be lost since no one would have the fuel to get back into position. The part about inertia I concede because I have no idea how movement in space worked and assumed that they would be slowed due to gravity being present everywhere. Third part of my statement is pretty much implying what you've just said. That there's a power increase from the formations that offset the added weight. You are definitely more knowledgeable about the subject than I am, so whatever explanation they give you can tell me if it's plausible or not. Well, the point is, deep space is really, really empty: the chance that something of any considerable mass hits you there, is *extremely* low to non-existent. *In story* one may presume the most likely threat would be the Gauna. But let's face it; if fear of that was the reason, they wouldn't have left Sidonia unprotected in the first place, nor would they have gone without their spears. They were clearly confident that no other Gauna was in the neighbourhood, and the chance of any other 'natural' collisions in deep space is negligible. There is another plausible reason why they didn't 'each' spend its fuel in turn to get a chain of mechs there (and back). That's inertia again. If one (or a couple) of mechs would have to get a whole ring or chain of mechs (aka, all the added mass) moving, the inertia to overcome would be gigantic, and thus, it would start to move very, very slowly. Seen the time-restraint (apparently, it took already 10-11 days to get there, depending on when they left), this might not have been the best option. Nah, in deep space you would only have microgravity. And gravity doesn't inherently slow you down; it can also speed you up. It depends on what direction the gravity is in. If a very heavy object (planetmass) popped up right behind them, it would slow their forward movement, yes. But beside of such an unlikely thing, all trajectories are curves in space (ellipses, and such), and stars are much too far to have any drastic (slowing) influence on it (besides, there are stars in any direction). Basically, your speed remains and you don't slow down, unless one has to escape from a gravity-well. As for what is 'plausible'. On itself, the whole 4-pack/ring thing with the mechs then being able to move faster or more efficient is implausible in reality. At least, with our current understanding of/for all linear propulsion methods, be it chemical, nuclear, etc. Of course, we're talking sci-fi here. And where one once thought things to be impossible, like the warp drive of Startrek, it seems you're never sure (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/164326-nasa-discusses-its-warp-drive-research-prepares-to-create-a-warp-bubble-in-the-lab). Anyway, *within story* they use that higgs drive - which doesn't exist in r/l, and which we don't know much of in the anime neither - and if one wants to explain why a 4 pack would be faster than 1 mech (in comparison to their relative masses), then a possible explanation (again, *in story*) would be that those engines, when activated in close proximity, somehow generate a greater force together, than 4 individual ones apart. Otherwise, the whole set-up with pairing up in quads or rings 'to be faster', doesn't make sense. Of course, one has to have some suspension of disbelief in anime, including this one. And not everything is (scientifically) perfect. But all in all they at least try to do a good job showing the different concepts in space (like gravity). So far, I'm liking the anime a lot. At first I thought the 4 or 5-mech configuration was simply to create stability in the system, and make for simpler more efficient cruise stages, especially if the engines are all synchronized. You are essentially converting several loose mechs into one ship. It wasn't necessarily faster, just easier and possibly more fuel efficient if it reduces the need for course and attitude correction while cruising. The effect would have diminishing returns though, and a 256-mech ring would probably be more unstable than an individual. So it probably has something to do with the fictional drive system they're using. Anyway, I don't see what the big deal is with the filtered urine scene. If I was in space and had such a system in place, I'd be using it *constantly* to stretch my limited water supply as long as possible. Survival situations are no time to be squeamish. On a related note, Wichita Falls, TX has just installed a sewage recycling system on their city water supply which returns treated sewage from that city back into the system (it's very clean). If, however, drinking someone else's filtered pee is some kind of intimate and/or romantic act, then the phrase "Love thy neighbor" is going to have a whole different meaning in Wichita Falls... They mentioned something about Higgs interference when Nagate attacked the cannon Gauna, so I was thinking it had something to do with that. Maybe those engines are slightly similar to warp engines in that they create some kind of propulsion 'field' that gets proportionally more powerful as more energy is supplied. And if not, I could live with it; that ring was just too awesome to dislike. I didn't like the infodump, the manga handled that way better. They didn't even mention the Gauna in the Swiss cheese alien structure, which I thought was pretty odd; they just showed the kabi destroying it, without mentioning their dead teammates or anything. I hope they revisit this scene later on :p All the rest was very well handled, I loved the "fanservice". Who knew that drinking someone's filtered urine could be so hawt :3 Loved how Hoshijiro was talking away and Nagate' was just sleeping, the guy really has a gift for that. But it makes her eventual demise just that much more sad and ironic, with the Gauna using her to 'communicate'. Kunato, fuck you so hard. You more than deserved the death you got. |
"Though mountains crack, and ice will thaw Though walls will fall, to tooth and claw Though stars will fade, and shadow spread On the heights we stood, with iron red. And as they died, they killed the dead. |
May 12, 2014 2:14 PM
#124
I expected a line instead of a ring, too. It's not like they have to hold hands all the time, they could simply make sure no one is lost due to running out of full or losing sight. That formation was justified through looking awesome alone though. And whats the problem with not having 256 cells? It's not like they'll get a life sentence. If, they would simply throw them out instead. Throw in several into one cell, let them stay there a week, next shift. And there are other means of punishment available, too. |
May 12, 2014 2:17 PM
#125
Another fantastic episode. We got quite of info as well, I really love the realistic details in this show (the urine filtering). The romance here is light and sweet <3, but why do I have a feeling that Hoshijiro will die....please don't.. D: |
May 12, 2014 5:33 PM
#126
Marathoned till this episode! The 256 Gardes and their thrust T.T was awesome. Nagate and Hoshijiro time spent inside Tsugumori ^^ The blushing and the urine filtering! The defense Gardes going to look for them since he saved Sidonia! That preview... more time spent together, hope this isn't another one of the "give the person some background before killing her" :O, yea I wouldn't want that too >.< "Salute" as next episode's title doesn't sound to bright though. Quite glad that I am watching this. |
May 13, 2014 7:52 AM
#127
NwAurion said: I expected a line instead of a ring, too. It's not like they have to hold hands all the time, they could simply make sure no one is lost due to running out of full or losing sight. That formation was justified through looking awesome alone though. It's not to make sure they don't get lost, it's about getting more bang for your buck in terms of fuel efficiency. Supposedly it's more productive to travel long distances together in a ring formation. I don't know the science behind this and can't say whether it's realistic or not. I'm sure some space/physics geek could testify to its validity. |
May 13, 2014 10:03 AM
#128
The urine filtration scene was so awkward xDD Bear Grylls where are you ? |
May 13, 2014 3:01 PM
#129
Hoshijiros blushing was because she was peeing ? CUTE! XD I was thinking Nagate would have less food because he ate it on missions, because he was scared to eat so much in front of ppl at sidonia because they bullied him. I WAS WRONG. :P I am surprised they let one kabizashi be lost in space. They have only 28 to keep themselves alive with, and struggled to defeat the first bad guy they encounter lol. Bad tactic IMO, but whatever. I think maybe the Gauna which took the guardian piloted by one of the elite four in the previous episode, it used this frame to assimilate an organic hyggs cannon for itself. ( the cannon was gross looking and reminded me of a penis kinda [sadface] but of an alien body YUCK ) It already showed to take on the form of the girl it consumed, I don't think my idea is far fetched. It was so fuuuing cool when Nagate destroyed that gauna though. I was kinda hoping both Nagate and Hoshijiro would die or be destroyed by a gauna or something but this result is also okay I guess. |
May 13, 2014 6:20 PM
#130
Aranthor said: Great episode, Was sort of pissed about how Sidonia didn't stop and wait for them though >:l Also, It got really suggestive with Nagate and Hoshijiro, surprised nothing actually happened. Also, I died when she gave him filtered urine. Pun intended. I just tagged this show as "pee drinking" |
May 13, 2014 10:32 PM
#131
provided the filter is advanced enough, pee is just water and urea and in the end water is just water once u remove any solutes. Totally looking forward to the next 2 episodes, its going to be guuuuuuuud. |
May 13, 2014 11:44 PM
#132
My thoughts about the possible love triangle: The fact that Hoshijiro is listed as a supporting character makes me feel like Nagate will end up with Izana instead. Hoshijiro will probably either die and thus ending the possibility or Izana will just win him over. |
May 14, 2014 7:54 AM
#133
GhostCell said: My thoughts about the possible love triangle: The fact that Hoshijiro is listed as a supporting character makes me feel like Nagate will end up with Izana instead. Hoshijiro will probably either die and thus ending the possibility or Izana will just win him over. you couldnt be more right and yet more wrong at the same time... soon my friend soon |
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May 14, 2014 2:10 PM
#134
cupc said: I'd say it's just a mecha trope in general. In Gundam, for an example, the mechas also always have their thrusters at full power, even when in space. Not really a big deal. I think people will tend to be way more picky on those particular details with Sidonia than Gundam type of shows because the hard sci-fi aspect is not nearly as present in the latter than it seems to be in the former. Agree with you than in one case or the other it really is no biggie, tho. Anyway, another great episode. What the hell was I doing avoiding this show ? It's easily one of my season favorites. Also that lady bear is awesome. Nuff said. |
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May 15, 2014 1:03 PM
#135
Nothing shows more love than sharing your urine with the person you care about. |
May 16, 2014 10:31 AM
#136
Loving this series so far. Every episode delivers on some level. Got some more background as well, the first Gauna, Nagate's grandfather, etc. so should be more interesting as things unfold. Also liked Hoshiiro's rambling on communicating with Gaunas. HMMMMM |
May 16, 2014 2:26 PM
#137
Some thoughts on the supply problem. In that situation it is quite strange that water became a concern. I mean they're both in space suits with water filtering systems and in the sealed cockpit, so with their technology the loss of water should be very small - instead it should all be reused and filtered. On the other hand oxygen is often a bigger concern, at least I'm not well aware of possible technologies to convert CO2 to oxygen easily. So in my view they should have been short on oxygen and food, but not on water. Aside of that strange fact I liked that photosynthesis and urine fetish thing. Overall it's a very nice series, nice scifi and nice plot, I like it more then others for the past few years. |
May 16, 2014 3:07 PM
#138
I can understand dumb space physics stuff like caring about distance instead of speed, because that's how the physics of the world most people live in works. But sticking 256 of the same vehicle together and thereby going way faster/further/whatever than one of said vehicle could alone? Can you imagine doing that with cars and having it work? Is it meant to be some kind of magic with the hyggs... Actually the Higgs Boson is what gives things mass so maybe a giant pile of robots with lots of mass could do something. |
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May 16, 2014 4:59 PM
#139
Rowan93 said: I can understand dumb space physics stuff like caring about distance instead of speed, because that's how the physics of the world most people live in works. But sticking 256 of the same vehicle together and thereby going way faster/further/whatever than one of said vehicle could alone? Can you imagine doing that with cars and having it work? Is it meant to be some kind of magic with the hyggs... Actually the Higgs Boson is what gives things mass so maybe a giant pile of robots with lots of mass could do something. Your analogy with cars is moot. Space is not land, and the propulsion systems for spacecraft and cars are vastly different. Sidonia's technology is obviously more advanced than ours, and it may not even have the same physics as our universe. How does their "photosynthesis" work? Why do they have such a shoddy system of rails and cables to counteract sudden acceleration? What's the point of humanoid mecha in space? Perhaps these "Hyggs" particles are less Higgs-Boson and more Minovsky, and works in the same way Minovsky particles define the fictional physics of the UC Gundam universe. There's no point in questioning science-fiction unless it contradict its own universe. Which, in Sidonia's case, is anything but extensive, and thus there is no need for any other explanation than "it just works". You can impose their actions in our physical universe, but don't let it detract from the experience, unless that is your goal. |
MissileSoupJun 26, 2014 5:15 PM
May 16, 2014 8:45 PM
#140
jiraiya_sensei said: Pee fetish FTW Darkmatterx76 said: 2 adults who are attracted to each other, extended periods of nudity, and stranded in a life or death situation for almost 2 weeks and no sex? They probably did but never showed you :p You guys forget this is anime, where main characters have 0 sex drive and guard their virginity like it's the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even in situations where any normal human being would say 'hell with it, we'll probably die out here all alone, let's not die virgins', anime heroes must remain pure and virginal for ... some stupid reason, I dunno. Apparently only in hentai are main characters allowed to boink anyone. And yes, I find that an insanely annoying trope... |
Blind_GuardianMay 16, 2014 8:51 PM
May 16, 2014 9:35 PM
#141
Blind_Guardian said: You guys forget this is anime, where main characters have 0 sex drive and guard their virginity like it's the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even in situations where any normal human being would say 'hell with it, we'll probably die out here all alone, let's not die virgins', anime heroes must remain pure and virginal for ... some stupid reason, I dunno. Apparently only in hentai are main characters allowed to boink anyone. And yes, I find that an insanely annoying trope... Clearly this is not the case here. You forgot that their goal was to last as long as possible, and the only way of them doing so was saving energy and supplies. Btw, they're not "normal" humans. Also, do you really think that having sex in zero gravity would be something pleasurable? |
VeldarthMay 16, 2014 9:40 PM
May 18, 2014 5:34 AM
#142
Oooh so that's what the guy from the previous episode (ep 2 I think) meant when he asked a girl to photosynthesize with him. That was fanservice but tasteful fanservice :) I would ship Hoshijiro and Nagate but when things are going too well, tragedy often strikes. Onuma said: Also, do you really think that having sex in zero gravity would be something pleasurable? Now I'm curious. |
xcheeMay 18, 2014 5:40 AM
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
May 18, 2014 12:20 PM
#143
Onuma said: Blind_Guardian said: You guys forget this is anime, where main characters have 0 sex drive and guard their virginity like it's the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even in situations where any normal human being would say 'hell with it, we'll probably die out here all alone, let's not die virgins', anime heroes must remain pure and virginal for ... some stupid reason, I dunno. Apparently only in hentai are main characters allowed to boink anyone. And yes, I find that an insanely annoying trope... Clearly this is not the case here. You forgot that their goal was to last as long as possible, and the only way of them doing so was saving energy and supplies. Btw, they're not "normal" humans. Also, do you really think that having sex in zero gravity would be something pleasurable? Actually, yes. I realize that there would be certain drawbacks, but as long as they're able to brace themselves they could work around it. Sex in zero G is hardly a subject that's unknown to the sci-fi genre. I suppose having sex would use up a large amount of energy, but they could at least get naked and cuddle a bit. Cuddling would actually help them conserve energy, since they'd be sharing warmth. BTW, as far as the reasoning behind such a huge ring of mecha acting in concert, there's a number of advantages to such a formation: -First, while there is a lot more mass to accelerate, each is adding their own acceleration to a sum total. Then once they reached cruising speed, they could just let themselves coast until they needed to correct course. Granted, Sidonia for the most part seems to forget that in space you don't need to operate under constant thrust in order to fly. -Second, all the mechas wouldn't need to fire their boosters at once, the rest could just get dragged along. This would greatly increase the amount of fuel available. -Third, it just looks cool. |
May 19, 2014 12:26 PM
#144
Blind_Guardian said: Onuma said: Blind_Guardian said: You guys forget this is anime, where main characters have 0 sex drive and guard their virginity like it's the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even in situations where any normal human being would say 'hell with it, we'll probably die out here all alone, let's not die virgins', anime heroes must remain pure and virginal for ... some stupid reason, I dunno. Apparently only in hentai are main characters allowed to boink anyone. And yes, I find that an insanely annoying trope... Clearly this is not the case here. You forgot that their goal was to last as long as possible, and the only way of them doing so was saving energy and supplies. Btw, they're not "normal" humans. Also, do you really think that having sex in zero gravity would be something pleasurable? Actually, yes. I realize that there would be certain drawbacks, but as long as they're able to brace themselves they could work around it. Sex in zero G is hardly a subject that's unknown to the sci-fi genre. I suppose having sex would use up a large amount of energy, but they could at least get naked and cuddle a bit. Cuddling would actually help them conserve energy, since they'd be sharing warmth. BTW, as far as the reasoning behind such a huge ring of mecha acting in concert, there's a number of advantages to such a formation: -First, while there is a lot more mass to accelerate, each is adding their own acceleration to a sum total. Then once they reached cruising speed, they could just let themselves coast until they needed to correct course. Granted, Sidonia for the most part seems to forget that in space you don't need to operate under constant thrust in order to fly. -Second, all the mechas wouldn't need to fire their boosters at once, the rest could just get dragged along. This would greatly increase the amount of fuel available. -Third, it just looks cool. I don't know why are you obessing on the main characters to have sex? I'm glad they didn't. If i wanted to watch a hentai, i would have instead. Also i think having the main characters stay innocent is much better than HEY LETS HAVE SEX! |
May 20, 2014 9:01 AM
#145
Kondo-Isao said: I say this every week, but the sound effects are so mind blowingly good it brings tears to my eyes. Yes, yes you do. And boy was that fucking sound when the 256 Gardes came fucking cumtastic. Ownsin said: Blind_Guardian said: Onuma said: Blind_Guardian said: You guys forget this is anime, where main characters have 0 sex drive and guard their virginity like it's the Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even in situations where any normal human being would say 'hell with it, we'll probably die out here all alone, let's not die virgins', anime heroes must remain pure and virginal for ... some stupid reason, I dunno. Apparently only in hentai are main characters allowed to boink anyone. And yes, I find that an insanely annoying trope... Clearly this is not the case here. You forgot that their goal was to last as long as possible, and the only way of them doing so was saving energy and supplies. Btw, they're not "normal" humans. Also, do you really think that having sex in zero gravity would be something pleasurable? Actually, yes. I realize that there would be certain drawbacks, but as long as they're able to brace themselves they could work around it. Sex in zero G is hardly a subject that's unknown to the sci-fi genre. I suppose having sex would use up a large amount of energy, but they could at least get naked and cuddle a bit. Cuddling would actually help them conserve energy, since they'd be sharing warmth. BTW, as far as the reasoning behind such a huge ring of mecha acting in concert, there's a number of advantages to such a formation: -First, while there is a lot more mass to accelerate, each is adding their own acceleration to a sum total. Then once they reached cruising speed, they could just let themselves coast until they needed to correct course. Granted, Sidonia for the most part seems to forget that in space you don't need to operate under constant thrust in order to fly. -Second, all the mechas wouldn't need to fire their boosters at once, the rest could just get dragged along. This would greatly increase the amount of fuel available. -Third, it just looks cool. I don't know why are you obessing on the main characters to have sex? I'm glad they didn't. If i wanted to watch a hentai, i would have instead. Also i think having the main characters stay innocent is much better than HEY LETS HAVE SEX! You see. Precisely. This is what I call "Majestic As Fuck" 1 - http://i.imgur.com/xJ2XUFF.jpg 2 - http://i.imgur.com/m20DmQQ.jpg 3 - http://i.imgur.com/D8uTwLo.jpg 4 - http://i.imgur.com/kk2UM7z.jpg Just finished ep6 of Ping Pong and I was left with a new feeling. I may have felt it before, but if so, then it must have been such a long time ago. And then here comes ep5 of Sidonia. Anime, what do you want me to feel, huh? Now I'm starting to support Hoshijiro and Tanikaze goddamnit. This harem, it's too good to be true. If there was anything good about FFVIII (even though I never played more than 2 hours of it, but I remember seeing it being played and saw a lot of stuff like the space part), it would be the romance involved in space. I have no fond memories or gaming memories alone with FFVIII to leave much of an impression in me, but that's what made me think. Squall and Rinoa (not sure if it was both of just Rinoa), and Tanikaze and Hoshijiro. It was fucking sweet. SO MANY RED FACES. AND PEE! PEE FETISH OH YES! FINALLY this show is starting to pick up, right after the pee drinking. My god. So many emotions all in one situation: • the fear and despair of being adrift in space, they truly tried to give us an idea of what it would be like; • "wtf is going on" because of nakedness (but I guess photosynthesising is such a perfect excuse....huh......at this point, I thought they'd start having sex but then use your brains retard, they're trying to conserve energy. 0-G sex would also be highly....unpleasurable.....); • "oh my god they're so sweet together" because of Hoshijiro and her, ah GAD; • and of course, erection time because of pee drinking and seeing her reaction. By this point, I am already absolutely used to the 3fps. Shit's like FREEDOM all over again. This whole romance thing going on, I could start getting attached to this. |
zetsu_shorenMay 20, 2014 9:27 AM
May 25, 2014 7:04 PM
#146
May 25, 2014 11:35 PM
#147
Drinking urine isn't that shocking in fiction IMO. If you've read Dune, you should recall that the Fremen's stillsuits do the exact same thing - they collect urine/sweat/moisture and recycle it back to the wearer. |
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Jun 7, 2014 3:36 AM
#148
did they drink pee at the end? |
Jun 26, 2014 4:09 PM
#149
I kinda cracked up at the filtered urine part. Well anyway glad that they rescued them after 10+ days. |
Jul 2, 2014 5:18 PM
#150
They live in a multi-generational space ship and recycle everything. They drink (recycled) pee all the time, and since human bodies are also recycled they're only a couple of energy exchanges away from Soylent Green. Maybe it's impolite in that society to mention it, but every bit of organic material has been reused and circulated through the ecosystem many times. (As is largely the case here on earth but the complexity of our ecosystem has thus far allowed us to ignore this--but maybe not for much longer.) |
rodacJul 2, 2014 8:34 PM
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
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