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Nov 14, 2008 8:53 AM
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Wow, that was a really sad episode. I was hoping to at last know why the guy did it. I am guessing he was some kind of stalker.
Mar 13, 2009 8:55 PM
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Don't really konw, maybe they knew themselves when they were kids and swore something that she didn't obbey!
Apr 17, 2009 8:22 AM
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This one was kind of hard and disturbing, this is the first time where i thought the "target" doesnt deserve to go to hell...

i wonder if Ai even has the life experience to understand what led to this tragic end...
because to me it seems that this guy was just a turned-down lover and in the end the nurse hasnt done anything wrong!!!???
Jul 28, 2009 5:44 PM
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Interesting. Seems like everyone thought it was wrong. Wonder what reason that guy had for sending her to hell.

Sep 1, 2009 1:15 AM
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At this point in time, it may never be known. However, some of the things people are sent to hell for are unfitting of the crime commited. If it's one thing we've seen so far in this series, it is that sending people to hell is certainly unforgiving and breaks the rules for no one. Sending innocence to hell would probably be an accomplishment for the higher powers that be in most cases.

It seems Ai feels remorse, but it's unclear why she doesn't take action against falsity. She's simply a puppet that does what she does and that's it. I hope the next few episodes will yield a bit more insight into the Reaper and motives behind her unwavering resolve.
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Sep 20, 2009 8:58 AM
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Who the fuck is Sentarou?

And wtf, that nurse got sent to hell! :( I wish she can come back to earth like that Jigoku Shounen from episode 21. (I think) XD
Nov 11, 2009 8:02 AM
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Who the fuck is Sentarou?

It's that boy who Ai keeps seeing... Or at least I think so...


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Well, I thought it was wrong too.... I mean, she didn't even know who that guy was....Oo
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Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
Jan 1, 2010 9:10 AM
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its totally messed up she died!!! and every1 new it!!!
Mar 21, 2010 9:12 AM
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Okay what? This is totally unjustified and random.
May 3, 2010 9:34 AM

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Wow, these last few episodes have been fantastic.
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May 23, 2010 1:18 AM

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At this point in time, it may never be known. However, some of the things people are sent to hell for are unfitting of the crime commited. If it's one thing we've seen so far in this series, it is that sending people to hell is certainly unforgiving and breaks the rules for no one. Sending innocence to hell would probably be an accomplishment for the higher powers that be in most cases.

It seems Ai feels remorse, but it's unclear why she doesn't take action against falsity. She's simply a puppet that does what she does and that's it. I hope the next few episodes will yield a bit more insight into the Reaper and motives behind her unwavering resolve.


Because it's her duty to do so; or something like that. We've yet to know (well, from this episode :P I know it finished airing way long ago) who that spider and the grandma are.
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Jul 5, 2010 8:54 AM

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That is so sad that the nurse was sent to hell. Probably by some random admirer or stalker. She even said she had never met him. I feel so bad for her, she will have to spend an eternity there...

Great episode though. Things are heating up.
Jul 9, 2010 6:56 AM

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Oh well , I really didn't like the nurse so i don't really care but still , kinda stupid to be sent in hell by someone you don't even know ...
Oct 15, 2010 6:35 AM

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sad .. she never did anything wrong ... she even let the old man scold on her
Oct 17, 2010 6:31 PM

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fucking hell.

no pun intended.
Oct 29, 2010 11:37 AM

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Too bad she got sent but it was a good episode and was the girl at the end little Enma? With that little guy she keeps seeing? Nice to know that she didn't liked this case btw, she does have a heart or at least some feelings :)
Dec 27, 2010 3:16 PM

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poor nurse, she sent to hell by someone
Feb 18, 2011 3:51 AM

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It sounded like Ai was about to cry. =/
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Feb 19, 2011 11:15 PM

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So did anyone question the plane that seemed slightly out of place? It didn't look like an airport around there.
Apr 10, 2011 8:32 AM
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First of all, Tsugumi had a vision of the future, which is the first time.

And Ai looked like she was about to cry.
Apr 27, 2011 7:23 PM
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That was fucked up
Dec 21, 2011 3:34 PM
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Poor nurse!
Do they really have to accept every request? As far as I remember Enma did reject several requests in the past so why did she take this one?!
Jan 25, 2012 7:16 PM

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^^^^^ very good question! I mean the nurse semt so lovely, and nice! But surely the request got accepted for a reason? I dont know thought, maybe thats just a way the show has contridicted itself, the shows last few episdoes have definately been heating up and getting better (about time) but yeah it seems Ai has some issues, and I think we all want to know who the boy is
Mar 14, 2012 12:24 AM

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Fucked up episode, unjustified and random.
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May 7, 2012 9:12 AM

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Wow, that was almost cruel :/
So now it got proven, Ai's job is absolute, and pulling the thread really does send anyone to hell, despite the reasons, even if the person is all good and innocent..

Now I'm really intrigued to find out more about Ai's past and why she's doing this... She doesn't seem emotionless about what she's doing at all anymore. I can sense a dark past, maybe she's had some personal grudge in the past (if she really was a living person to begin with) or maybe she's been cursed to do her job or something... can't wait to find out more!
May 19, 2012 9:02 AM

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The guy had to be one of the many would-be suitors she turned down, and probably someone who met her at the hospital. There's a correlation between physical and mental illness, after all.
Aug 7, 2012 2:20 PM

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Damn this episode why was the nurse send to hell just bcs that dude couldn't get her love perhaps and so he decided to be united in Hell it self... that's just fucked...

Though Tsugumi's visions/flashes appear to get more advanced and more interesting! Like the ending who was the person's name Ai was saying ?
Aug 15, 2012 11:58 PM

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Damn this is messed, a good person sent to hell? That guy who pulled the string was most likely already going to hell so it didn't even make a difference to him. Jigoku shoujo is evil.

Nonetheless it was a great episode.
Aug 23, 2012 9:22 PM

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What? I was sure she could turn down requests. This episode didn't make sense to me.
Aug 25, 2012 6:34 AM

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Poor nurse!
Do they really have to accept every request? As far as I remember Enma did reject several requests in the past so why did she take this one?!


She rejects requests that weren't motivated by revenge.

In episode 5, Midorikawa Raizou tried to use Jigoku Shoujo so she could have a business advantage. Ai rejected the request as it had nothing to do with revenge. Then later, whenever Misato used it for revenge against Raizou, Ai accepted the request.

The reason for the revenge is unimportant, as long as it is revenge.
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Sep 15, 2012 3:01 PM

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Yup, Emma only replies to "revenge request", by the look of things. I previously thought that Emma teammates are investigating to see if the victim is innocent, but they're just gathering information on the victim and than torture them with illusions, but in this episode, there was no sort of illusion torture, she just being sent straight to hell.

Interesting episode, but it had a bad aftertaste. I wonder if we get more similar incidents like this and Emma breaks down.
Nov 17, 2012 7:12 AM

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Wow, sad episode that time. The story is getting more and more interesting, that's good. But poot nurse :(
Feb 24, 2013 8:05 PM

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Did everyone's opinion just change like Tsugami's? 11/10 episode for showing the bad effect of the Hell Correspondence.
Mar 8, 2013 4:36 PM

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I didn't need this episode to change my mind about Hell link because not a single person in the show so far has truly deserved eternal torture.

Punishments should be proportionate to the crime, even if you were a crazy person who believes that a wrongdoer should suffer a million times the harm they did to others (and I doubt anyone actually believes this) then someone like Hitler who's both directly and indirectly responsible for the horrible suffering and deaths of millions would suffer horrific torture for perhaps trillions of years (and even for hitler, this would appear extremely excessive to anyone who is thinking even semi-rationally), but a trillion years isn't even a fraction of eternity.

No one can commit infinite crimes in their finite lives and so no matter how heavy handed you are in setting the crime to punishment ratio in your quest for retribution, as long as the punishment is proportional to the finite crimes, it can never be infinite.

Needless to say if the people doing wrong and being sent to hell can't possibly deserve the sentence, the people who use Hell link are making an infinitely unfair deal for themselves also. Paying the price of infinite suffering to rid yourself of a finite grievance is never going to make any kind of sense, and there's no way in hell (literally) that any of these people don't regret making the contract just one minute into their own sentence after death, if not before their sentence has even begun.

Then there's the issue of children being allowed to consent to these contracts, we don't allow children to decide whether they can drive, buy alcohol or have sex and for good reason, yet here they're being trusted to decide whether to sign themselves on for eternal torture.

Also, while some of the ill-deeds used as justification for considering sending someone to hell in previous episodes of this show have been as serious as murder, others have been things like ignoring a friend, trying to get a student to come to school, being a golddigger or stealing a dessert recipe and putting a cake shop out of business.

It's ridiculous.

I'm rendered speechless by the fact that so many people here needed an episode as black and white as this one, where the person sent to hell was not only completely innocent, but didn't even know her "victim" and was shown to be a well-liked and unbelievably nice person, doing a job that actively reduces the suffering of others. Meanwhile the person using Hell Link is some crazy malicious stalker, whose grudge was merely a delusion cooked up in his own head. The fact it took an episode like this for some people to begin acknowledging that there are flaws to the Hell Link system, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Apologies to anyone who makes it through that wall of text but I feel obligated to vent about such glaring issues. And I have to give credit to a show that I can enjoy at all even whilst knowing all this.
Jun 18, 2013 1:54 PM

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strange episode for not knowing why she was sent to hell probably because he loved her and she turn him down as someone said she didn't need love cause it would stand in her way of work.

was I the only one noticing where the hell that bug came from around 10:00 and she said darkness did she mean down there where the bug came from is darkness lol.
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Sep 25, 2013 10:13 AM

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Tsugumi sure is cynical for an elementary school student, talking about the hidden dark sides of people. LOL

How did Hajime know that the nurse didn't know the person that sent her to hell? He couldn't have known everything about her.
Feb 7, 2014 12:19 AM

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I feel sad :( Poor nurse she is going to hell for legitimate purpose.
There were so many guys that were in love with her, and one of them just had to be a psycho. That guy when I saw he killed himself at the end - I think he condemned the nurse to hell knowing they would both end up there and be together. Even though they probably won't since according to Ai is earlier episodes "Hell is a vast place"


May 3, 2014 10:23 PM

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One question I had was, what exactly is hell going to do the nurse? For hell to work, there must be a sin. For those that untie the thread, their sin is their grievance which will them haunt for eternity. Since the nurse didn't have any major sins (if any at all) for her life, there's nothing for hell to work with.

If there's a heaven and a hell, there must be rules as to how this works. I don't think her soul will be punished for eternity since there's nothing to punish. It's too bad we'll never see what happens in hell; it would be funny if the stalker did all that and never be able to see the nurse.
May 15, 2014 1:06 PM

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Well Tsugumi what do you think now........not so black and white now is it.

Hell girls doing the right thing sending evil people to hell.
She's justice

Well are you rooting for her now.

Poor nurse wish she turned around or rejected it
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May 28, 2014 2:33 PM

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What's the sense of good people being sent to hell? Isn't it going to mess up the laws of their universe? This episode was inconsistent.
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Jun 16, 2014 2:21 AM

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What's the sense of good people being sent to hell? Isn't it going to mess up the laws of their universe? This episode was inconsistent.


It doesn't matter to hell girl who gets sent to hell good or bad it's about revenge ........but in season 3 she's a hypocrite she'll take the job of taking a nurse to hell who didn't do anything wrong but [spoiler]when it comes to her own subordinates who are the ones who are sending there victims to hell she'll pass on it
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Sep 27, 2014 9:06 PM

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This wasn't the first episode where I didn't agree with the person getting sent to hell but it definitely was the first one that pissed me off.

I'm assuming that dude was a former patient who fell in *love* with her and got turned down, so he decided to send her to hell for it. I'm also assuming in some twisted way he thought they could be together in hell, which is why he killed himself right after pulling the thread.

The fact that some random crazy asshole can send such a good person to hell just shows that Hell Correspondence is not a good thing, even Ai seems to realize this.

Anyways this episode has made me much more interested in whats to come.
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Wow that nurse didn't deserve that. I thought that she was gonna be evil for sure and I totally forgot about that crazy drug addict. Ai's heart is slowly breaking from the burden how sad... 5/5

Nov 29, 2014 7:47 AM

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It was very refreshing to see the darker and more disturbing side of Hell Correspondence for a change. So far it's been nothing but baddies and wackos being sent so despite the nurse's situation being tragic, I'm glad that it's finally showing just how terrible all of it is. It's also revealed two things - that Ai is truly heartbroken by her duties, especially when it involves people who haven't committed anything worth being sent to hell over. The other is that Tsugumi is finally seeing that Hell Correspondence isn't the justice serving hero system that she was idolizing it to be.

I wasn't even going to bother touching S2 but if it keeps up the recent momentum I've been seeing in the latest episodes, I may consider.
Dec 15, 2014 10:26 AM

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Probably the first time sending someone to hell made me so mad since she was such a sweetheart and good person! I mean we don't even know why the guy did it which is so frustrating. The only other time I got so mad was when the farm girl Yuko didn't send that guy to hell, but since that episode had an open ending it made me feel better. This was just so unfair! But of course it had to happen for story purposes so hopefully now Tsugumi will have a change of heart on this situation.
Jan 5, 2015 8:13 PM

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Sent to hell by a random stalker... Can't say I didn't see an episode like this coming.
Feb 15, 2015 11:28 AM

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Sad episode.The story is getting more and more interesting, that's good. But poor nurse :(
Apr 2, 2015 4:38 PM

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Wow. I haven't felt like shit for a while. The one who made this Hell Correspondence system is fucked up.

Oh, pitiful shadow cloaked in darkness.
Thy actions cause men pain and suffering.
Thy hollow soul drowns in thy sins.
How would you like to see what death is like?
-Enma Ai
Jul 27, 2015 9:24 AM

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That Poor nurse! I really don't like it when bad things happen to good people!
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