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Dec 29, 2013 6:50 AM

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So in the end Kaiki was able to complete the mission but not able to leave the town seems they have some insane brats in that city guess the police needs to do a little more in that town.
As for this ending it wasn't bad Araragi showing up at the end was nice, it was a good learning moment for Araragi in growing up, Araragi needs to learn he can't solve everything.
And that happiness is something a person needs to find for themselves.
Dec 29, 2013 6:54 AM

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Awesome dialogue by the man Kaiki. Shame he died at the command of a person named Ougi? I'm wondering who that is and RIP Kaiki; you will be missed. That is if the death was part of the disclaimer you made at the start of the arc...
Ougi is the one Nadeko talked to before becoming a god, Araragi also talked to her at the end of Shinobu Time.
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131108002534/bakemonogatari1645/images/9/94/Ougi.jpg
Does this ring any bells?


Yeah now it does. It's been a while since we last saw her and my memory isn't that great with all the shows I've been watching simultaneously. Thank you for the reminder :)
Dec 29, 2013 6:57 AM

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Oh fuck... Kaiki. *sniffs*... shit.

This season now convinced me to actually read the novels.
Dec 29, 2013 7:03 AM

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A random girl or a random boy among the ones deceived by Kaiki. Or the one who cursed Sengoku. But only because it has a snake doesn't mean it's him. It's not 100%. You don't know what happened during all this time. But so far in monogatari series every girl got a voice actress while every man got a voice actor. and it was moving like a girl and mad like a girl IMO, that's why I think it's a girl.
If we are using meta arguments, then I'll say it is far more likely for it to be the boy that cursed Nadeko simply cause it would be tying loose ends.

And why would he be so mad like that if he's the one who started it? I don't think he should be able to survive for so much time, that could be his sister who got the snake the moment he died and then went to avenge his brother. There are many possibilities.


WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING DENSE ?

I'm sorry, I don't think I can answer that question. Because I'm not.
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Dec 29, 2013 7:05 AM

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This Ougi is almost like a split personality of Gaen. Everything they did was the opposite of each other. Oh well I guess we won't really know until the novel is finished.

By far the best Monogatari season. I enjoyed every arc especially Mayoi's and Kaiki's. Definitely 10/10.
Dec 29, 2013 7:09 AM

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Goddammit why is it always my favourite characters that die
Dec 29, 2013 7:50 AM

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Oh my god. FUCK.

I was so excited when Kaiki man the fuck up vs Nadeko. He really did well with his words. As expected of him.

BUT WHY DOES HE NEED TO DIE?! WHY? Holy shit. Didn't really see that coming. I thought Oshino would show up and save him but sigh.. Come to think of it, if Gaen knows everything then why did she not somehow save Kaiki?

Koyomi was soooooo useless. Damn.

I hope Ougi pays for her insolence in the future. I'm guessing Oshino is not showing up because he is preparing on taking down Ougi.

10/10 can't wait for the next monogatari.

By the way, great voice acting by Miki.
Dec 29, 2013 8:04 AM

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and then: finished
I can only say that for me was the best anime of the year
expected a little more animation and movement in the last episode
but I liked the behavior Kaiki this epi, instead of deceiving Nadeko he convinced
progress was very good of the anime
only missed the opening, and a soundtrack to shut
well the story is not yet over, hopefully looking forward to continue seeing next year


Araragui and ended up appearing in this last arc, but were still mysteries left
I think it is hard not to give 10/10
now is to continue watching as the story will continue ..
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e então: terminou
só posso dizer que para eu foi o melhor anime do ano
esperava um pouco mais de animação e movimento no ultimo episodio
mas gostei do comportamento de Kaiki neste epi, ao invés de enganar Nadeko ele a convenceu
foi muito bom o andamento do anime
só senti falta da abertura, e de uma trilha sonora pra encerrar
bem a historia ainda nao acaba, espero ansioso para continuar vendo ano que vem


e Araragui acabou aparecendo neste ultimo arco, mas misterios ainda foram deixados
acho que não tem como não dar 10/10
agora é continuar acompanhando como a historia vai continuar ..
Dec 29, 2013 8:20 AM

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What the fuck? What the fuck is this?

...

There was like snake flying around. Then they talk like crazy shit, kicking heads, screaming and some manga stuff. Then, hand through the mouth and walking in the snow. Then, talk on the phone, then hit on the head. Dead.

I don't even know what I'm watching now. It's like I'm stuck in a looping tracks of thoughts that symbolizes nothing but confusion and words play.

... Okay, you guys know what? Fuck it, this anime is amazing.
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Dec 29, 2013 8:36 AM

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I-It's over?! It really doesn't feel like it.

This has been a good season, even if the more intense scenes have been rather dull. And the previous arc was extremely boring.

Still, it was nice to have Monogatari back in form.

8/10
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Dec 29, 2013 8:48 AM

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Yeah, it realy was one of those WTF moments...
First Hachikuji and now Kaiki... That is two sad endings in a row :'(
And this freaking cliffhanger...
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Dec 29, 2013 8:53 AM

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Nooooooo!


Dec 29, 2013 9:31 AM

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aight. Im confused. I know Senjogahara loves araragi but i still dont understand what she used to feel about kaiki..cuz w/e she says...is so hard to believe
Dec 29, 2013 9:31 AM

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Kaiki!!! Screw that bitch Ougi. Hopefully Oshino can avenge Kaiki.
Dec 29, 2013 9:34 AM
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Why did Oshino had to be mentioned there ?
Given that we don't know much about his intentions, could he be the one pulling the strings ?

Great episode. I didn't find the animation horrible, I'm not sure why everyone's dissapointed. Great twists at the end, Kaiki really was a great character.
Dec 29, 2013 10:23 AM

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WTF!? He really died!? I would never believe that!

Anyway, like someone said, this isn't very conclusive. Well I heard that there'll be an another season but I wonder if I'll watch that because this series is underwhelming to me.

And I'm curious about Oshino's whereabouts.
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Dec 29, 2013 10:32 AM

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This season was amazing. I was really attached to it. I will miss Hachikuji and Kaiki made an excellent job. 10/10 for me.
Dec 29, 2013 11:36 AM
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I read the summary of the novel (I mean Koimonogatari, so this is not spoiler) and find out that Hitagi reminds Kaiki of Kanbaru's mother (Gaen Tooe), the girl he loved in the past?
Dec 29, 2013 12:04 PM
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I read the summary of the novel (I mean Koimonogatari, so this is not spoiler) and find out that Hitagi reminds Kaiki of Kanbaru's mother (Gaen Tooe), the girl he loved in the past?
Interesting, I guess that also explains Suruga's attraction to Senjougahara.

Meaning Suruga may have an oedipus' complex... I mean electras'... I mean... I'm confused.
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Dec 29, 2013 12:14 PM

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It was such a good ending!

NOT!! Oh Kaiki, our hidden badass guy, beaten by a junior high kid.
However,

Anyway, I totally didn't expect the manga manuscripts to be in that closet. Really well done by Nisio Isin.

Araragi somehow looks prrety mature after six months.

Although, the part when Kaiki was trapped in the sea of snakes, and Nadeko was beating him. I feel it was lacking something. The animation maybe?
Everything leading up to this final episode was really great, but the final episode itself doesn't seem to match up to the quality of the previous ones.

Kaki owning Araragi was pretty cool.

Either way, a series I definitely enjoy watching, and craving for more.
9/10

PS: DAMN YOU OUGIi!!
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Dec 29, 2013 12:16 PM
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NononononononononononoNONONONONONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! *violent sobbing*
Dec 29, 2013 12:17 PM

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I'm simply speechless.
Dec 29, 2013 12:21 PM

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FUUUCCCCKKKKK YYYOOOOUUUUU OUGI

9/10. Brilliant series. Can't wait for the final season.
Dec 29, 2013 12:30 PM

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NOOOO KAIKIIIIIII DON'T DIE ON ME!!!!!
HE BETTER BE ALIVE !#$!#$
Dec 29, 2013 12:30 PM

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WTF!? He really died!? I would never believe that!

Anyway, like someone said, this isn't very conclusive. Well I heard that there'll be an another season but I wonder if I'll watch that because this series is underwhelming to me.

And I'm curious about Oshino's whereabouts.


I don't think he's dead, just very very injured....

Fun fact is that later in the novels (Owarimonogatari exactly) seems Koyomi and Ougi are trapped in what happens to be a classroom and no one can get out

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Dec 29, 2013 12:32 PM
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Is it just me or someone else think that the second season is not as good as the first one? I mean it is good, but just not like the first season where I just can't wait to watch.
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Dec 29, 2013 1:09 PM
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I feel like this series can only be fully enjoyed when read in its original form as a novel. So many details that are relevant to the story seem to be left out- judging by some of the comments I've read- and that ultimately ends up making the finished picture feel incomplete. If at some point I acquire enough knowledge to read the novels, I will do so. I really enjoyed Medaka Box and I am sure I would feel the same way about the -monogatari novels.

About the anime series itself; personally, I enjoyed the first season the most. None of the other installments of the franchise have managed to change that opinion of mine, this one included. It was an enjoyable show, but didn't quite do it for me. Even so, I will gladly watch whatever else SHAFT decides to create in the future.
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Dec 29, 2013 1:41 PM

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The second season started weak, but it got better and better with every new episode, this last arc was simply splendid. On a side note, Kaiki's speech about irreplaceable things was really sad if you consider his past. 5/5 9.6/10
Dec 29, 2013 1:52 PM

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Ah, and so with the way things go for my favorite characters I still didn't see that coming. How beautifully done it was, the entire way.
Dec 29, 2013 1:54 PM

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The second season started weak, but it got better and better with every new episode, this last arc was simply splendid. On a side note, Kaiki's speech about irreplaceable things was really sad if you consider his past. 5/5 9.6/10
Started weak? The first arc was easily the best arc of the whole season.
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Dec 29, 2013 2:09 PM
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Kaiki didn't really die, did he? I do not really dislike tragic endings but in this case it's different because killing doesn't really fit in Monogatari series. Plus this whole "sudden death after a good deed" thing has already been seen so many times in other animes and movies.

Made me drop my score from 8 to 7.
Dec 29, 2013 2:16 PM

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what... WHAT, WHY DID HE... DONT DIE, JUST WHEN WE TOOK A LIKING TO YOU *ROAR*
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Dec 29, 2013 2:20 PM
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Well that was surprising. I fucking love this series!
Dec 29, 2013 2:31 PM

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I remain…
Well, aren't you just fabulous?
In more ways than one.
Who do you think you are? …NisiOisiN?
More Cat's Cradle, duh.
This first half could easily be fixed with just some more dramatic angle shots like this.
11 minutes later, that's my SHAFT.
What emotion.
Hitagi End.
Money really is a valuable thing.
We've finally reached the safety zone.
R.I.P. Tezuka.
Toad>Slug>Snake.
Wonderful wordplay.
There's more to life than Araragi.
Nadeko found her individuality.
And that is being 100% awesome.
Where's a lead pipe when you need it?
Oh, hey, Araragi.
Love how the piano version of the OP starts playing here.
Monogatatrees are so pretty.
Yo dawg, I heard you like deception…
One last dose of deception.
Dat reverse psychology.
Gaen knows everything.
There will be blood.
Guess who's back?
Oh, Hanekawa was worried about Ougi having a hand in Kaiki's fate.
You magnificent bastard.

Visually, the first half of this episode is far from perfect, but I think it did bounce back after the halfway mark and narratively, it did everything I wanted it to do. Okay, maybe I didn't exactly want Kaiki to get beat upside the head with a lead pipe twice lol, but it provided a memorable ending. Would be funny if what was in the closet was foreshadowed at the end of episode 14, but it's probably just really convenient wording. That aside, I think the retro manga references, Nadeko illustrated as a manga drawing right before Tsukihi cuts off her bangs to expose her and this arc's OP definitely hint at it.

While a little more Senjougahara screen time would've been more than welcome, this season has already surpassed Bakemonogatari in my eyes with how it's elevated characters to new heights (specifically ones I never cared too much for like Hanekawa and Nadeko) and the arcs (which offer a change of pace in not always having Araragi as the narrator) fit in a more interwoven storyline that actually reduces the harem to a love triangle. I think the consequences of pretending to be something you're not were demonstrated very well throughout this season (with Kaiki's arc being the culmination of it all: "Nothing good ever comes from acting unlike yourself") and this kind of ties in with the fakeness of Nisemonogatari. If I had to name a low point, it would have to be the recaps. They felt a little unnecessary, but they weren't pointless imo. Summary one used Neko Black to remind us of the embracing acceptance of one's unfortunate qualities in Tsubasa Tiger, which is also reflected through Shinobu and her alternate self in Mayoi Jiangshi. Summary Two used Hitagi Crab, Mayoi Snail, Suruga Monkey and Nadeko Snake to lead into the victim complex and grudging jealousy of Nadeko Medusa. Summary Three used Karen Bee and Tsukihi Phoenix to lead into the deceptive facades of Shinobu Time and Hitagi End. I'm aware that the main purpose of the recaps were to give SHAFT more production time for the Second Season arcs, but they also make it more obvious that NisiOisiN has placed several characters in similar situations that indicate how this season would progress and help connect the dots of the franchise in a wonderful way. Hopefully, SHAFT puts the MSSS and Rebellion sales to good use and finally puts out Kizumonogatari. But probably not lol. 10/10

Also, just realized than Shinichiro Miki not only voiced Kaiki, but also Knov from Hunter x Hunter (2011) and Sawamura from Hajime no Ippo: Rising as well. Top notch performances, back to back to back? O_O I am not worthy. On another note, can any light novel readers tell me how they like the Final Season installments so far in comparison?
Dec 29, 2013 2:44 PM

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Holy crap that ending was great!!! Kaiki!!!

Ahh i cannot wait for Hana~ to start airing.

I'm glad Araragi made an appearance before the end. Does he ever find out about Senjougahara's involvement in all this i wonder...?

I enjoyed this season more than Nise (fanservice isn't really my thing) but Bake is still the best.
I'd give this a 9/10 but i loved every second of this last ep so i'm giving it a 10.

I know some people think animating the whole LN series is overkill but if they keep the quality to this standard, why should you care? Bring on season 3 :)
Dec 29, 2013 2:48 PM

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KAIKI-SAN!!!!!!!!!

NOOOOOO!!!!!
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Dec 29, 2013 4:37 PM
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well the plot's been set for the next season. i thought kaiki would die but only by sengoku, didnt expect that ending at all
Dec 29, 2013 4:37 PM
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I'm going to ignore recap episodes and giving this a 10/10. This was glorious.

The OP being played as a piano at the end. I need Hanamonogatari, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to hunt down the light novels and read them as soon as I can, too.

To be honest, I enjoyed most of the season, like I did with Bake and Nise; very good, but nothing that really edged me to go read the Light Novels and get fired up for the next. This Kaiki arc did it. Not to mention it ended in a way that was unexpected (C'mon, I bet pretty much everyone thought he'd die by Sengoku?) but still very satisfying and conclusive. A perfect ending. Shows you can be unexpected without making a crap ending; threw the predictable factor out my window and made me pay attention to the episode really hard for a long time.

Hanamonogatari 2014, I'm patiently waiting for you.

Oh, and:

Ougi, you bitch.
Dec 29, 2013 5:20 PM

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SOOO HE DIEEEDD??

FCKKKKK!!!!
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Dec 29, 2013 5:57 PM

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She was hiding manga manuscripts in her closet? Really?!
Damn! Just when I was starting to like Kaiki, he gets his head bashed in. Guess he didn't leave town fast enough.
Ougi's like a demon!

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Dec 29, 2013 5:59 PM

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Nadeko the manga artist, lol. Amusing way to defeat her though.

Kaiki no!!! I was just starting to like him too. :( Didn't see that one coming...
Dec 29, 2013 6:30 PM
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So, people...
Kaiki didn't really die, did he? I really sincerely hope not.
He is by far the most interesting (male) character in my honest opinion, and I can't imagine him dying like that, especially now, right before Hanamonogatari.

Then again, being beaten with some iron bar on the head, twice, and losing consciousness while it's freezing cold outside...

Please, people who've read the novels, tell me - I don't care about spoilers, just please, tell me.
Dec 29, 2013 7:06 PM

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That dude Kaiki is not that bad. R.I.P.
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Dec 29, 2013 7:14 PM

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Kaiki noooooooooooooooooooo!
Dec 29, 2013 7:37 PM

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I am glad it's over. Monogatari made me feel tired every time I watched it.
Dec 29, 2013 7:55 PM

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Dang just when I was starting to like Kaiki he dies... Just noticed it think he's the first character in the anime that I've seen die. But when Kaiki mentioned the Manga Artist thing, I lost it and just started laughing so hard. Anyways, can't wait for a hopeful sequel to find out who ougi really is RIP Kaiki
Dec 29, 2013 8:06 PM
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that was certainly one hell of a way to end a season. I got to say, what initially hooked me on the Monogatari series was the writing, characters and dialogue (I really like the use of word play). An ending like that reminds me why I started watching this show in the first place. It also shows how painstakingly Nisio Isin constructed this story from point a to point b. I mean really, the entire episode was symmetrically linked Nadeko`s initial story and Kaiki`s character development. Not to mention the fantastic contrast between Araragi, Kaiki and Oshino`s characters.

Dont open if you dont like spoilers, you`ve been warned
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Dec 29, 2013 8:24 PM
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wasn't excepting to have killed him like this in the end . Still missing Oshino though . Cba to read manga up so he might even show up later on . Maybe.
Dec 29, 2013 9:19 PM

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I shall never forget the 80s intro.

As for Nadeko,
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Dec 29, 2013 10:29 PM

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Wow, I didn't see that ending. Pretty shocking. How it cuts off just like that... Did he really die? If that isn't a cliffhanger, then I'm lost here. Can't say I disliked it though, since it had impact and kept me wanting for more.

So Ougi is the main antagonist now? She did seemed pretty shady from the get-go. Maybe the reason her "uncle" is not around also due to her.
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