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Nov 15, 2013 9:55 PM
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This was I believe the most recent list, and it was referenced in a video review of Arkada, where he completely lampooned the list for being stupid to him. Basically, there was this poll a while ago in Japan where at least 5500 voted for the most tragic female leads in an anime, and this was the list. I want to know what you think of it honestly.

1 Izumi Akazawa (Another)
2 Sayaka Miki (Madoka Magica)
3 Sachi (Sword Art Online)
4 Mami Tomoe (Madoka Magica)
5 Shirley Finette (Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion)
6 Nagisa Furukawa (Clannad)
7 Inori Yuzuriha (Guilty Crown)
8 Euphemia li Britannia (Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion)
9 Saber (Fate/stay night)
10 Minori Kushieda (Toradora)
11 Chise (Saikano)
12 Kotonoha Katsura (School Days)
13 Stella Soussier (Gundam Seed Destiny)
14 Homura Akemi (Madoka Magica)
15 Menma, AKA Meiko Honma (Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi ha Mada Shiranai)
16 Madoka Kaname (Madoka Magica)
17 Misuzu Kamio (Air)
18 Sakura Matou (Fate/Zero)
19 Ranka Lee (Macross Frontier)
20 C.C. (Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion)
21 Oscar François de Jarjayes (Rose of Versailles)
22 Sekai Saionji (School Days)
23 Four Murasame (Zeta Gundam)
24 Yuko Amamiya (ef - a tale of melodies)
25 Noe Isurugi (true tears)
26 Ein (Eren) (Phantom ~Requiem for the Phantom~)
27 Nadja (Ashita no Nadja)
28 Haruka Suzumiya (Kimi ga Nozomu Eien (Rumbling Hearts: Kiminozo))
29 Yurin L'Ciel (Gundam Age)
30 Nia Teppelin (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)
31 Kana Iriya (Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu)
32 Megumi Shimizu (Shiki)
33 Asuna Kagurazaka (Magister Negi Magi)
34 Yuki Miyata (Moshidora)
35 Scheris Adjani (s.CRY.ed)
36 Matsuri Shihou (sola)
37 Momoko Asuka (Mootto Ojamajo Doremi (Magical DoReMi))
38 Hayami Kohinata (H2O ~Footprints in the Sand~)
39 Mahoro Andou (Mahoromatic)
40 Lu Anon (Gundam Age)
41 Takuya Enoki (Akachan to Boku (Baby and Me))
42 Masane Amaba (Witchblade)
43 Oboro (Basilisk: The Kōga Ninja Scrolls)

I think this list is honestly strange for many reasons, but it is what they voted for, and also, personal opinions all may differentiate between Western and Japanese viewers, but it just bewilders me. Now, I could not find the original Japanese site poll, however, Crunchyroll did manage to get a translation onto their page.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/08/02/poll-who-is-the-most-tragic-heroine-character-in-japan

What do you think?


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Nov 15, 2013 10:01 PM
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Can't speak for most of the list because I haven't seen a majority of them.

I didn't find Izumi Akazawa, Ranka Lee or Minori Kushieda to be that tragic though.
Nov 15, 2013 10:05 PM
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no Sara Ringwalt?
I don't consider Sachi, Nagisa, Mami, Kushieda, Madoka an several others to be tragic
Nov 15, 2013 10:05 PM
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Random popularity contest based mostly on trends... Idk and idc about the number one, sao and gc shouldn't be top 10, terrible characters. Basically no asuka = huge fail
Nov 15, 2013 10:06 PM
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The list is stupid though
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Nov 15, 2013 10:08 PM
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Sayaka Miki deserves to be #1, in my opinion. But the list looks pretty accurate out of all the anime I've seen that are on there. It's nice to see that Scheris from Scryed was able to get a spot.
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Nov 15, 2013 10:09 PM
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The girl on my avatar demand to be on the option.
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Nov 15, 2013 10:18 PM
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Well can't say for certain since I haven't seen 95% of those shows listed buuuuuuut

Sachi? Really?
Nagisa was a tragic one if you cut out the last episode.

Lucy from Elfen Lied had a pretty damn tragic story if you ask me. Even if you disliked the show, if you really look how crappy her life was I'm sure she deserves one of the top 10 places. though it may be debatable if she is a heroine or antagonist.

but the really winners of the most tragic heroines ever goes to all the ladies in School Days! yaaaaaay! *throws confetti*
Nov 15, 2013 10:31 PM
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Be sure to understand the meaning of a tragic character:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragic_hero

I'm just sayin'.
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Nov 15, 2013 10:37 PM
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Well after seeing a certain movie, two people on that list are definitely going to rank higher on the next poll, they could be one and two easily actually.

I have no idea how Ranka, CC, Minori are there though.
Nov 15, 2013 10:40 PM
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i still remember Sachi of Sword Art Online and i agree with that list with regards to her
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Can't speak for all of them, but here are my thoughts:
- Sachi (SAO): TRAGIC MY ASS. I saw all all of the harem girls the same way.
- Shirley (Code Geass): Definitely. A simple school girl in love with a man, not knowing what she was getting into.

- Nagisa (Clannad): Tragic indeed, my friend. Tragic indeed.
- Inori (Guilty Crown): Show was too much of a mess for me to care.
- Euphemia (Code Geass): I can totally feel the implied...frustration in her after Lelouch did what he did.
- Saber: ...sure, I can see that. Never really got to me, though.
- Minori (Toradora): What tragedy? Teenage angst, you mean.
- Sakura (Fate Zero): ...oh you poor child..
- C.C (Code Geass): ...never really saw it as tragic
- Ein (Phantom): ...sure whatever..
- Nia (Gurren Lagann): Bittersweet, that's what it is.
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Nov 15, 2013 10:41 PM

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#1 is a tsundere-nobody that died from Final Destination curse and had a crush on MC.


...People these days.

Well, at least Amamiya Yuuko and Shihou Matsuri are up there.
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Aaand I think that's enough of that list.
Nov 15, 2013 10:58 PM

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That girl in Mars of Destruction. We didn't even know her name yet to this day.
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Nov 15, 2013 11:24 PM
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No One Piece? Fuck this list.
Nov 15, 2013 11:34 PM

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Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...
Nov 15, 2013 11:35 PM
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OnePieceQ8 said:
Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...


It's Heroines.
Nov 15, 2013 11:36 PM

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OnePieceQ8 said:
Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...
Do you know what heroine is?
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Nov 15, 2013 11:42 PM

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skudoops said:
OnePieceQ8 said:
Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...


It's Heroines.
NeoAnkara said:
OnePieceQ8 said:
Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...
Do you know what heroine is?

Ops.. my bad i read "What do you think of Japan's last list of most tragic"
i pull guts part back :p
Nov 15, 2013 11:42 PM
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For a recent list, it's not really up to date with the more younger anime. Where's Mikasa Ackerman?
Nov 16, 2013 12:32 AM

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Can somebody remind me who Sachi from SAO is?

Like seriously I don't think that a character that some people don't even remember should really qualify to be no. 3 on a list of best anime anything.
Nov 16, 2013 12:36 AM

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Shit taste as usual from Japan, nothing to see here.
Nov 16, 2013 12:37 AM

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Nicobade said:
Can somebody remind me who Sachi from SAO is?

Like seriously I don't think that a character that some people don't even remember should really qualify to be no. 3 on a list of best anime anything.

Nov 16, 2013 12:46 AM

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NeoAnkara said:
OnePieceQ8 said:
Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...
Do you know what heroine is?


lucy isn't ?
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No One Piece? Fuck this list.


shut the fuck up
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Nov 16, 2013 12:49 AM

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Tommk said:
NeoAnkara said:
OnePieceQ8 said:
Sorry but it's bad list..
no Guts? no Lucy from Elfen lied?
...
Do you know what heroine is?


lucy isn't ?
Nobody said that. The problem was obviously with Guts, do try to keep up.

Good to see some oldschool represented, though I had no idea anyone remembered H2O.
Nov 16, 2013 12:53 AM

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Forgetfulness said:
Nicobade said:
Can somebody remind me who Sachi from SAO is?

Like seriously I don't think that a character that some people don't even remember should really qualify to be no. 3 on a list of best anime anything.

But yeah...totally not worth #3


Oh yea now I remember. I think she used to talk with Kirito or something and she was depressed and hopeless I guess (this character honestly wasn't very memorable to me). I really don't think that she deserves to be no.3 or anywhere in the top 10 since she wasn't nearly developed enough due to only being in 1 episode.

One of my main criticisms of SAO (or the fanbase) was that fans kept praising the shit out of the first arc for being deep, tragic and heartbreaking since they killed off characters emphasizing the harshness of the world they now lived in. Except the enormous problem with that being those characters who died were "characters of the day" only appearing in 1 episode thus not being fleshed out and connecting the viewers.
Nov 16, 2013 1:05 AM

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People need to remember that these contests and will cover 'memorable, popular and recent' rather than attempt some kind of legitimate evaluation of who experienced GREATEST SUFFERINGs. So of course they'll be highly dominated by the shipping powers that be.

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What about Kuroneko?

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There's your problem. This is Japan we're talking about here.
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Nov 16, 2013 1:17 AM

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Sachi should be number one is what I am thinking.
Nov 16, 2013 2:05 AM

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I haven't seen most of the list but Izumi in #1 is hilarious (you'd think that they would go with the way more popular Mei, and even in that case, it would be absurd). Sekai and Kotonoha, to me, are more models of fucked up/crazy than tragic characters. Mami, a character we didn't even get to know well. The three other Madoka entries in the list hold a way bigger emotional/tragic impact than her.

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28 Haruka Suzumiya (Kimi ga Nozomu Eien (Rumbling Hearts: Kiminozo))

Damn, I was tricked for a second.
Nov 16, 2013 3:38 AM

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I stopped taking it seriously when I saw Sachi over Nagisa. An episodic side character that contributes to Kirito's harem is #3? Really?
Nov 16, 2013 3:42 AM

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It's bullshit.
Nov 16, 2013 3:52 AM

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(Among other chars)Megumi from Shiki?Really?
Index,Railgun and about everything from Type moon have more tragic heroines than this list.
Since teenage love failure is a reason to call them tragic heroines i guess torture,shitty fate,rape and a bunch of other stuff probably need another word.
Nov 16, 2013 4:23 AM

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No opinion. I only know four. I don't even remember what happened to Nia Teppelin and Misuzu Kamio.

Nov 16, 2013 5:17 AM

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>3 Sachi (Sword Art Online)

What the actual fuck, we didn't even know her for a full episode.

I can understand it though. It is where SAO peeked with both world creation and good writing. Kirito actually showed some fucking character beyond being OP. But yeah, popular shows gonna be popular.

The list overall is all over the place. With some very logical picks in completely illogical positions and a really questionable top 10. Minori? WTF Japan? I like the Ein pick, at least a few of them know what they're talking about then.
Nov 16, 2013 5:57 AM

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DramaEnthusiast said:
This was I believe the most recent list, and it was referenced in a video review of Arkada, where he completely lampooned the list for being stupid to him.

Link please? I'm pretty sure I've seen everything Tristan has done, yet I do not remember this :S
Nov 16, 2013 7:58 AM

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Chihiro (TWGOK), Aoyama (Sakurasou), and Robin (One Piece) deserve to be in the list.
Nov 16, 2013 8:03 AM

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Weren't there like 4 other people who died along with Sachi in that same group of friends at the same exact time for the same exact reason? And then after that, like didn't a guy commit suicide because of it?

LOL but fuck them! Right?

This is kind of a dumb list, but whatever. I guess I'd say either Eren from Phantom, or Euphie from Code Geass. Leaning toward Eren.

EDIT: Wait, people voted for this? The girl from Another? What? Noe from True Tears? Huh?
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Eh....I'm not too big on tragedy, so I can't say much. Still, this is making me wonder. Was Another really popular or something?
Nov 16, 2013 8:06 AM
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I think these girls should be mentioned as well. Not all of them died, but they still lived pretty tragic lives.

Blood+ - Saya
Jigoku Shoujo - Ai
Claymore - Claire
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Where is Enma Ai from Jigoku Shoujo ? Can you really forget about her, loool.
Nov 16, 2013 8:14 AM
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Eh....I'm not too big on tragedy, so I can't say much. Still, this is making me wonder. Was Another really popular or something?

It is one of the most popular light novels in Japan, and the anime is ranked 40 on MAL, so I would assume it was popular in that regard.
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The list is stupid though

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Eh....I'm not too big on tragedy, so I can't say much. Still, this is making me wonder. Was Another really popular or something?

It is one of the most popular light novels in Japan, and the anime is ranked 40 on MAL, so I would assume it was popular in that regard.


The anime sold pretty badly in Japan IIRC......... quite curious that a character from it topped the list. Maybe Japan didn't see Another as being the best comedy of 2012 like many of us did.
Nov 16, 2013 9:01 AM

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Why hell is anyone from Clannad on that list!? Especially Nagisa, Clannad is probably the least tragic romantic tragedy of all time.
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Putting Sayaka at around the top of the list sounds about right. Really, almost all of the PMMM girls should be on there, except possibly Mami. The rest of the list is a mixed result, it looks like this poll was made in the first half of 2012 so that explains why Another and SAO ended up getting such high spots.
Nov 16, 2013 1:15 PM

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Second place.

Close enough. I don't have any other opinions.
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Nov 16, 2013 9:48 PM

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Why is Sayaka there? I found her story and character incredibly stupid not tragic...



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Weren't there like 4 other people who died along with Sachi in that same group of friends at the same exact time for the same exact reason? And then after that, like didn't a guy commit suicide because of it?

LOL but fuck them! Right?

This is for female characters? and in that episode Sachi had most of the screen time and is shown to get closer to Kirito and is shown to be a normal girl who doesn't want this and wants to run away from it blah bla etc
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