Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & DVD Rankings for Aug 31 - Sep 6

Kotobukii said:

Oricon reports from a large amount of stores. I know that and you know that. If this thing barely sells in the numerous amount of stores Oricon gets data from then it probably did not sell much in the other stores.

Not talking about merch, genius, strictly the anime adaption. They are not making money on the adaption alone, not the LN, not the merch. Re-read what I said before you try to be a smart ass.

There is also no assumption that video sales alone will recoup the entire budget. This is not remotely true for the vast majority of series. Even 10k sellers may well not recoup all costs through video sales. This makes the concept of “break even” problematic.

3.1.2 Oricon’s Cons
  - Not everything is reported. As seen in 3.1, if a disc ranks outside the first threshold it’s never counted, outside the second threshold we don’t (directly) see it.
  - Thresholds can be high enough to prevent low sellers from ranking at all, or ranking past the first week.
  - Due to the above (and other factors), sales reporting is heavily front-loaded, with very few discs ranking beyond their first 2 weeks.
  - Because coverage methods and video formats have changed over time, comparing sales of recent series to those from even 5 years ago is difficult.
  - While they cover many retailers, by no means do they cover all. KyoAni Shop, for example, does not report sales to Oricon.
  - There can be very large gaps between what Oricon reports and what distributors report. See this post for examples.

　　3.1.3 Oricon’s Biases
  - Because Oricon reports on a finite number of releases each week, the best way to make the rankings is to have sales compressed in the first 1-2 weeks. This ensures you make the rankings at least once. This is exactly how late night anime operates, which is why Oricon works so well for our purposes.
  - This does mean that Oricon is less useful for “slow burn” series that accumulate sales over a long period. Kids’ shows, for example, are less likely to rack up large preorder sales. Their sales would presumably come over a longer period of time in smaller doses, usually falling short of Oricon thresholds, and therefore not being reported. Particularly as many are DVD only, where thresholds are higher.
  - Shows with a broader mainstream appeal can also be underrepresented on Oricon. Nodame Cantabile might be an extreme example but during an interview a producer for noitaminA stated that over time, Nodame Cantabile has actually sold three times what has been reported through Oricon (or through 2ch as he puts it). For a series that has gone on for three seasons over a period of years, airs on the more mainstream noitaminA block, plays out like a soap opera, and has a successful live action adaptation, this seems believable.
  - Another example given in the same interview is noitaminA show Hakaba Kitarou, which saw a bump in orders after the original mangaka’s wife published the autobiography “Hakaba no Nyoubou”.
  - This situation would apply to few of the anime we report on here but should be understood anyway.
  - Oricon does not count international orders! See this post for more details. It’s unknown when they stopped counting international orders, but it was some time before June 2014.

Now the official Sakura Trick PR account has tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/sakuratrick_pr/status/501757044588703745

売上4万枚桜Trick！@todamegumi: 第6巻！！私の大好きな楓ゆずのエピソードが入ってます！！（Trick11） タチ先生の描き下ろし漫画も楓・ゆず編ですよっ！わくわく！RT”@sakuratrick_pr: 桜Trick(第6巻発売日)””

From the bottom up, the official account made a tweet indicating volume 6 was out. The middle is a reply by Toda Megumi, the seiyuu for Yuzu, talking about Yuzu and Kaede. And at top is a reply from the official account saying “40,000 units sold Sakura Trick!”

The only thing this could possibly mean is total units shipped across all volumes, which comes to an average of 6,666.

The Oricon average is going to be around 2.0 – 2.1k. It didn’t rank second weeks, and we know Oricon is never the full sales (they don’t cover the Pony Canyon store for example, but it goes beyond that), and we know importers aren’t counted – so it’s a very safe bet the “real” average is easily over 3k, plus whatever it sells in the very long term, a disc here or there over the coming months and years – though you’d think used copies would be what most very late adopters go for.

moodie said:
u kidding right?

ichii_1 said:

No one said they're making a profit, the money they're making is enough to offset SOME of the costs, so it's not a MAJOR bomb.
And this is only the anime disk sales, let alone the other sales.

rederoin said:

Oricon does not report the full sales and we have no idea how much merch has been sold.

You're welcome.

Kotobukii said:


You cannot honestly sit there and type up that an anime adaption is making money strictly from that adaption when they're barely selling 1,000 copies per volume. That's stupid.

They're not making money. The "profit" from 1,000 copies would not even put a dent on production and marketing costs.

Kotobukii said:
The "profit" from 1,000 copies would not even put a dent on production and marketing costs.

Kotobukii said:


You cannot honestly sit there and type up that an anime adaption is making money strictly from that adaption when they're barely selling 1,000 copies per volume. That's stupid.

They're not making money. The "profit" from 1,000 copies would not even put a dent on production and marketing costs.

rederoin said:

Unless you have any insider info, that is a baseless statement.

RickRoss-Sama said:


Jojo always sells great, yet it takes forever for another season to be confirmed.

I NEED PART 4.

Kotobukii said:

They're not making any money from this. They're probably loosing it if anything. Reports from actual people in the industry seem to indicate that you need a lot more sales for that to even meet production. Even if it is "low budget." The LN volumes sell an average amount as well, so I doubt they're making a considerable amount of money on that front either.

Kaioshin_Sama said:


It's a good thing that they continue to make so much of that stuff. Seems like such a worthwhile investment.

Ramiel00 said:


It is quite common for anime based on LN with low-budget to have number like that. So it's not bad, it's just the standard.
Those anime are made for pure advertising and to sell LNs.

ichii_1 said:

Atleast they're making a good portion of there investment back, it's still a bomb but not a major one.

Kaioshin_Sama said:


That's extremely bad, I don't know how anyone could look at those numbers and say boy what a winner. I rarely see anything that low that's actually meant to sell discs to profit.

tsubasalover said:

14.　**,524　*7,233 - JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 2nd Season Vol.5 Limited Edition