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Mar 27, 2022 2:44 PM
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It's not that there's none at all, in the past few years i know that the fruits basket remake has been going on, that "my next life as a villainess" anime was pretty good, and there's always a new precure, but I've noticed that in general its slowing down.

like idk, i have nothing against shounen (and other demographics), but it'd be nice if we got more shoujo anime. does anyone else feel the same way?
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Definitely. I like how surprisingly diverse the magical girl genre is, but I really do miss some old-school shoujo magical girl series too.



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I don't think I have ever watched an anime targeted at 少女. I really prefer anime more often than not that aren't 'shounen' or 'shoujo'. 'Seinen' are usually promising, but often times include gratuitous gore or sex to appear more 'mature'. LotGH is the greatest anime ever made but will be enjoyed the most by white (and japanese?) adult males. Anyways...
In short, no I am not sad that there are less 少女アニメ. But we could do with a few less shounen for sure...
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Yes, they should adapt more fruit basket type like anime. Not really interested in those villainess type (reverse harem) anime
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Yes, they should adapt more fruit basket type like anime.
Dude, you need to read Kitchen Princess and Full Moon wo Sagashite!!
The former somehow never got adapted (like legit WHY NOT???) and the latter totally deserves a remade anime adaptation.
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the audience of things like Vanitas is basically shoujos anyway
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Definitely. I like how surprisingly diverse the magical girl genre is, but I really do miss some old-school shoujo magical girl series too.



Made a thread in the past that's somewhat similar to this, click on the link if you're interested in reading/posting ^_^


I agree!! magical girl anime i think is generally underappreciated though because its "girly", so maybe that's a contributing factor as to why there's just not as many anymore

and I'll definitely read through that thread. :)
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Kitchen Princess and Life are just a couple of shoujo i think would be fucking cool to have seen made as an anime. And also Kagen No Tsuki,Godchild and I am not an angel are another solid pick to see adapted as well.

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Fario-P said:
Adampk said:
Yes, they should adapt more fruit basket type like anime.
Dude, you need to read Kitchen Princess and Full Moon wo Sagashite!!
The former somehow never got adapted (like legit WHY NOT???) and the latter totally deserves a remade anime adaptation.

Yes, looks interesting. I will eventually get into it.
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Adampk said:
Yes, they should adapt more fruit basket type like anime. Not really interested in those villainess type (reverse harem) anime


i liked the villainess anime quite alright, albeit mainly because it borders on GL at times (another genre which i wish there was more (good) anime of), but i agree. those long-running shoujo manga adaptations are great and we need more of them!!
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Oh, yet another topic on shoujo. I miss the days when shoujo was made up of many genres, back before Pretty Cure came to monopolize magical girls. I haven't read any recent serializations, but it seems boring romances are all anyone talks about. But the industry's not all bad; shounen has taken on many of the traits I used to enjoy in shoujo.
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I agree with the OP. Even though I'm a sucker for a good shounen show, I have dabbled in a few shoujo series to expand my knowledge and sate my curiosity. There are just an abundance of shounens but not enough shoujo shows to balance it out.

I know for sure that there's space for girl-centric harems, romance slice of life stuff, and plenty of action-oriented stories where we could follow a lead female character.

One of my favorites is Moretsu Pirates (the OP song is a banger too!). It's slice-of-life, but with the nice sci-fi twist and whole Power of Friendship thing going on. A very positive show that centers on space travel and stuff.

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Shoujo is my highest rated of the 4 demographics, so I'd gladly watch more.

I'm loving the currently airing Baraou no Souretsu because of its gorgeous dark and shoujo-esque aesthetics. Ideal for anyone who complains that "every anime looks the same nowadays".
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Yeah I'm definitely sad about it. Shoujo is still my highest rated tag on malgraph for good reason. There's so many great anime in that demographic - it makes up a significant portion of my top ten. I'd love to see it have a bit of a comeback.

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There are definitely a lot of good shoujo manga in my opinion that need to be adapted.
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Has there been any big breakthrough shoujo manga in the last few years? It's hard for old stuff to get adapted, that might be one of the reasons.
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I would prefer if there were more series that were aimed at a female demographic, all I have is Precure. Would be nice if there was another season of snow white with the red hair or Yona of the Dawn, or an adaptation of Prince Freya
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Shojou manga are one of the most unimaginative and repetitive works out there, so I don't really miss these type of shows.

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I don't think I have ever watched an anime targeted at 少女. I really prefer anime more often than not that aren't 'shounen' or 'shoujo'. 'Seinen' are usually promising, but often times include gratuitous gore or sex to appear more 'mature'. LotGH is the greatest anime ever made but will be enjoyed the most by white (and japanese?) adult males. Anyways...
In short, no I am not sad that there are less 少女アニメ. But we could do with a few less shounen for sure...
LoGH is not the best anime. It is super dry and devoid of entertainment.
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I would prefer if there were more series that were aimed at a female demographic, all I have is Precure. Would be nice if there was another season of snow white with the red hair or Yona of the Dawn, or an adaptation of Prince Freya
At a glance you have a lot more shounen in your list, there's still plenty of shoujo shows out there for you to watch.
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cchigu said:
Shojou manga are one of the most unimaginative and repetitive works out there, so I don't really miss these type of shows.

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I don't think I have ever watched an anime targeted at 少女. I really prefer anime more often than not that aren't 'shounen' or 'shoujo'. 'Seinen' are usually promising, but often times include gratuitous gore or sex to appear more 'mature'. LotGH is the greatest anime ever made but will be enjoyed the most by white (and japanese?) adult males. Anyways...
In short, no I am not sad that there are less 少女アニメ. But we could do with a few less shounen for sure...
LoGH is not the best anime. It is super dry and devoid of entertainment.
It is the greatest anime ever. Best characters, best story, best dialogue, best aesthetic, nuanced, classy, it is a work unparalleled in the anime medium.
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DeidaraHmm said:
cchigu said:
Shojou manga are one of the most unimaginative and repetitive works out there, so I don't really miss these type of shows.

LoGH is not the best anime. It is super dry and devoid of entertainment.
It is the greatest anime ever. Best characters, best story, best dialogue, best aesthetic, nuanced, classy, it is a work unparalleled in the anime medium.
No, it isn't. It does give off the aura of something grandeur but falls flat to deliver anything remotely emotional making it really hard for the audience to digest it. One of its biggest flaws and a very critical one especially considering that this is an "entertainment" medium. Keep in mind that LoGH is one of the finest shows Ive ever watched and one of my favorites too but I really can't see the show being the best in this medium.
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It makes me really sad, the longer things go on the more male-centric anime becomes. It's always been that way, obviously, but it's stupid that seemingly the only way modern anime can appeal to many women is through BL or unironic reverse harems.

I want more shoujo, those classic messages of the strength in femininity and love.
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I'm more sad that I can't finish them all though. Hopefully there'll come a time where I'm waiting because I finished them all.
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Well, you know what that means? It's time to go back in time and watch them!




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I'm not sad about it but ig I'd prefer that over shounen
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I would feel satisfied with a Please Save My Earth full adaptation.
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Shoujo demographic is trash and mostly romance based. It’s better as there are less shoujo anime
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Fario-P said:
Definitely. I like how surprisingly diverse the magical girl genre is, but I really do miss some old-school shoujo magical girl series too.


I agree!! magical girl anime i think is generally underappreciated though because its "girly", so maybe that's a contributing factor as to why there's just not as many anymore
Which is so odd when Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica are still so insanely popular... but still, right?!?!

Speaking of which, I'm assuming CCS is your favorite too? Any other favorites?




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Kitchen Princess and Life are just a couple of shoujo i think would be fucking cool to have seen made as an anime. And also Kagen No Tsuki,Godchild and I am not an angel are another solid pick to see adapted as well.
Life might be considered too real so I dunno if producers would risk picking that up hahaha... regardless, yeah, definitely!


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One of my favorites is Moretsu Pirates (the OP song is a banger too!). It's slice-of-life, but with the nice sci-fi twist and whole Power of Friendship thing going on. A very positive show that centers on space travel and stuff.
Heard of Bodacious Space Pirates before, not shoujo but still was curious about it regardless.

Well we do need more pirate anime too... hmmm...


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There are definitely a lot of good shoujo manga in my opinion that need to be adapted.
Agreed! What are some manga that you have in mind if you don't mind sharing?


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Has there been any big breakthrough shoujo manga in the last few years?
Honestly not many come to mind, but considering it even got a musical adaptation, I can see A Sign of Affection getting adapted. It features a deaf girl like Shouko in A Silent Voice, but it's more about a wholesome romance between her and a cool multilingual guy. The art is delicate and as sweet as the romantic interactions, and even the MC's best friend gets to have her hand at a romantic relationship of her own.



It's hard for old stuff to get adapted, that might be one of the reasons.
I thought that too until this recent announcement... we just need some passionate producers then, I guess?


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It makes me really sad, the longer things go on the more male-centric anime becomes. It's always been that way, obviously, but it's stupid that seemingly the only way modern anime can appeal to many women is through BL or unironic reverse harems.

I want more shoujo, those classic messages of the strength in femininity and love.
Agreed!! Again, like what OP said, nothing necessarily wrong with shounen and seinen anime, but come on, like where the hell did these pretty and magical girl types of anime go?? Are these industry producers kinda implying that with all of these harem isekai stuff that none of these shoujo isekai were also worth putting out there into TV??
I mean I ain't into otome game/reverse harem but come on people..........


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Shoujo demographic is trash and mostly romance based. It’s better as there are less shoujo anime
Quite an odd sentiment to see from someone with Natsume's Book of Friends in their favorites lol
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I would definitely like A Sign of Affection to get adapted, it's one of my favorite Shoujo manga right now.
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Yeah but sadly shojo 'meta' were ended and isekai takes the crown rn (on business and sales standpoint)
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One of my favorites is Moretsu Pirates (the OP song is a banger too!). It's slice-of-life, but with the nice sci-fi twist and whole Power of Friendship thing going on. A very positive show that centers on space travel and stuff.


Yup... i loved Mouretsu Pirates too. Shoujo stuffs from Satelight are never dissapointed me. The theme was also quite good and refreshing in my opinion. And lastly OP from Momoiro Clover Z was blast

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NOPE.....I don't like shoujo that much in the first place.....

I'm sad because there isn't as much good Seinen adaptations now...like it always has been!!
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Fario-P said:

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Shoujo demographic is trash and mostly romance based. It’s better as there are less shoujo anime
Quite an odd sentiment to see from someone with Natsume's Book of Friends in their favorites lol
I had a feeling that someone would point this out, but the major reason I like that one is because its not romance cantered and not a female protagonist.
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What are some good shoujo anime that one should try?

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No, it isn't. It does give off the aura of something grandeur but falls flat to deliver anything remotely emotional making it really hard for the audience to digest it. One of its biggest flaws and a very critical one especially considering that this is an "entertainment" medium. Keep in mind that LoGH is one of the finest shows Ive ever watched and one of my favorites too but I really can't see the show being the best in this medium.


That has got to be one of the weirder takes I've seen unless you're redefined what "emotion" and "entertainment" mean...
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Fario-P said:
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I agree!! magical girl anime i think is generally underappreciated though because its "girly", so maybe that's a contributing factor as to why there's just not as many anymore
Which is so odd when Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica are still so insanely popular... but still, right?!?!

Speaking of which, I'm assuming CCS is your favorite too? Any other favorites?



yes!! and yeah, i like sailor moon and madoka magica as well. the former i haven't watched in a long long time though, but i do remember loving it when i watched it. I still need to finish CCS though ! I've seen half of it but i absolutely love it.

I've also seen and enjoyed princess tutu, its not the most typical magical girl show but i really liked it. there's some others I've also watched, (shugo chara was something i also watched quite long ago but really liked) but I've recently gotten around to watching mahou no tenshi creamy mami, its not as modern as some newer magical girl shows, it came out in like 1983 i think, but the artwork is gorgeous! especially the fluffy hair.

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Not at all, I am 5x more inclined to watch shows that don't have any of the demographic tags. Except maybe Seinen sometimes. Shoujo and Shounen are so repetitive and tropey so their quantity declining is great. The main reason Shounen is surviving is because of fight scenes, animation, and pretty visuals which is like literally the main appeal of anime to normies.
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"is anyone else sad at how there isnt as much shoujo anime now?"

Yeah, josei too.

Also it's kind of cringe that the most mediocre and unremarkable shoujo of all time is number 9 in Top Anime. This is proof how trashy anime taste is nowadays.
The highest decent josei is at 38-th place and the highest decent shoujo is at 63-th place.
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Yeah, the fewer shoujo anime from year to year even though most of these anime is wholesome anime and even without fanservice.
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Nothing against Magical Girl anime and reverse-harem/otome-game isekai, but I do sort of miss the more down-to-Earth shoujo romance/comedy/drama series we got back in the 2000s. Like Maria Watches Over Us, Aishiteru ze Baby, Lovely Complex, The Wallflower, Itazura na Kiss, Maid-sama*, Special A, and Peach Girl. Unfortunately, those are the kinds of works that are more easily and cheaply adapted to live-action, without the "anime" stigma hanging over them.



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cchigu said:
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It is the greatest anime ever. Best characters, best story, best dialogue, best aesthetic, nuanced, classy, it is a work unparalleled in the anime medium.
No, it isn't. It does give off the aura of something grandeur but falls flat to deliver anything remotely emotional making it really hard for the audience to digest it. One of its biggest flaws and a very critical one especially considering that this is an "entertainment" medium. Keep in mind that LoGH is one of the finest shows Ive ever watched and one of my favorites too but I really can't see the show being the best in this medium.
You really have to be an individual of higher quality and taste to appreciate it fully.
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DeidaraHmm said:
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No, it isn't. It does give off the aura of something grandeur but falls flat to deliver anything remotely emotional making it really hard for the audience to digest it. One of its biggest flaws and a very critical one especially considering that this is an "entertainment" medium. Keep in mind that LoGH is one of the finest shows Ive ever watched and one of my favorites too but I really can't see the show being the best in this medium.
You really have to be an individual of higher quality and taste to appreciate it fully.
Lol, sure buddy. People who are actually intelligent are able to embrace the fact that no show is the best and that is even more true for a show like LoGH which has a room to be better in many ways.
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Sure. I'd definitely love it if shoujo/josei is treated the same way as shounen/seinen is nowadays. It's sad to think that I probably won't be watching something modern that is as magical and brilliant as, say...Honey & Clover is anytime soon. Oh well, good thing there's a lot of classics out there.
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cchigu said:
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You really have to be an individual of higher quality and taste to appreciate it fully.
Lol, sure buddy. People who are actually intelligent are able to embrace the fact that no show is the best and that is even more true for a show like LoGH which has a room to be better in many ways.
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Shoujo Anime hasn't really decreased that much over the years. It only seems there is a lack of Shoujo because of the sheer volume of Anime being produced today compared to over a decade ago. The industry has always produced more Shounen than Shoujo. In the mid 2000s there was one peak year for Shoujo of over 20 releases, but every year before and after has been pretty consistent.

If any genre that is really dying it's Ecchi. These days Ecchi is only being produced to make either borderline Hentai titles or simply used as a subtle theme just enough to classify it as Ecchi only because the viewers get to see actual animated nipples or the panty shots are provocative enough to get a horny teen excited.
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Shoujo Anime hasn't really decreased that much over the years. It only seems there is a lack of Shoujo because of the sheer volume of Anime being produced today compared to over a decade ago. The industry has always produced more Shounen than Shoujo. In the mid 2000s there was one peak year for Shoujo of over 20 releases, but every year before and after has been pretty consistent.

How many shoujo anime will we be getting this year? How many did we get last year? It's a fact that more shoujo anime aired in the 90s. 1995 gave us Sailor Moon, Rayearth, Wedding Peach, Nurse Angel Ririka, Fushigi Yuugi, Saint Tail, Gokinjo Monogatari, and Whisper of the Heart. The year before and the year after had almost as many titles, and that's only counting the names I recognize.
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ColourWheel said:
Shoujo Anime hasn't really decreased that much over the years. It only seems there is a lack of Shoujo because of the sheer volume of Anime being produced today compared to over a decade ago. The industry has always produced more Shounen than Shoujo. In the mid 2000s there was one peak year for Shoujo of over 20 releases, but every year before and after has been pretty consistent.

How many shoujo anime will we be getting this year? How many did we get last year? It's a fact that more shoujo anime aired in the 90s. 1995 gave us Sailor Moon, Rayearth, Wedding Peach, Nurse Angel Ririka, Fushigi Yuugi, Saint Tail, Gokinjo Monogatari, and Whisper of the Heart. The year before and the year after had almost as many titles, and that's only counting the names I recognize.


We won't know how many Shoujo Anime will be produced until the year has ended. Also MAL doesn't always properly tag the target demographic of every Anime. As an example "The Saint's Magic Power is Omnipotent" is completely a Shoujo anime yet it's not tagged at all as a Shoujo. "Ore Monogatari!!" wasn't tagged as a Shoujo Anime until last year. I could make the argument that there is at least over a half a dozen modern Romance titles that would appeal to more of a female audience then a male audience and this wouldn't be including just your run of the mill slice of life series.
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It is unfortunate for some, but honestly shounen romance's are usually better. But I can see how people would miss more shoujo. At least if it was more balanced I don't think anybody would complain.
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Fario-P said:

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Has there been any big breakthrough shoujo manga in the last few years?
Honestly not many come to mind, but considering it even got a musical adaptation, I can see A Sign of Affection getting adapted. It features a deaf girl like Shouko in A Silent Voice, but it's more about a wholesome romance between her and a cool multilingual guy. The art is delicate and as sweet as the romantic interactions, and even the MC's best friend gets to have her hand at a romantic relationship of her own.



It's hard for old stuff to get adapted, that might be one of the reasons.
I thought that too until this recent announcement... we just need some passionate producers then, I guess?

oooh yeah, I forgot about that one. I can definitely see it getting an adaptation sometime. And wait, with a musical adaptation you mean a play? I didn't know it already had enough material for something like that.

Also had no idea Hoshi no Samidare was getting an adaptation, I haven't finished it yet but that's nice to hear.
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"The Saint's Magic Power is Omnipotent" is completely a Shoujo anime yet it's not tagged at all as a Shoujo.

Only manga and their adaptations are supposed to have demographic tags.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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