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Animillion said: So I’m kind of confused. Is Keiichi not the main protagonist then? Wth have we been watching all this time then, or am I just seeing things wrong? I’m guessing that this is your first time watching a season of Higurashi? :) Keiichi is one of the main characters, but the girls are listed as main characters for a reason. @Comander-07 explained it very nicely, so I won’t say much more, but Keiichi is chosen as the character whose perspective we’re following the most in these mysterious arcs cause he just moved there and is as clueless about the village, its traditions and the villagers as first time viewers & readers (in case of the VN) are. Damn, I didn’t even catch that :o You’re probably completely right - as stated before, I really hope that so I’m really looking forward to what’s to come :) |
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| So it has begun, the family abuse part...oh god, i am speechless. The whole lunch scene was so sad and scary, i do hope Keiichi will do what he has to do. Tbh this time Keiichi was 100% on the right, he was the first one to tell everyone to do something, yet Rena and Mion were always stopping him. The next episode will be hard, i feel it. |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| Man, that last sequence was truly heartbreaking. Satoko's VA did a really good job at portraying the torment the poor girl has been going through. Overall, that scene was nicely executed. Very good episode this week. The sense of frustration felt palpable enough and Keiichi's own irritation towards the discouraging events felt natural and almost relatable as well. Now I wonder if he will take action into his own hands and kill Teppei as he did in that early flashback. |
| Don't lie to social workers, I guess. |
| Really great episode, Keiichi kind of remembers Tatarigoroshi. I am really looking forward to how this arc will unfold. I don't remember there ever being a mention of Oishi being called "Oyashiro-sama's familiar" before though, interesting. Damn, that face Rika made when she found out what kind of world it is this time. Tatarigoroshi is fucked. |
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| Oh man oh man. Satoko's story gotta be the worst one yet. Feel like her uncle is sexually abusing her. And again, useless child protection center as always ,considering the time period this anime take place in, especially in Japanese culture which everyone try to stay away from other people's family business. (aka, parents are always right era for Japan) |
random_weirdo said: Really, now that's interesting.ArcueidBestGirl said: I've only read the question arcs in the VN and haven't started Kai yet, so sorry if I get anything wrong. Nope, you're right. So turns out I was wrong, sorry about that. random_weirdo said: I liked this episode, but damn, is Satoko's fate really sad. This is too close to reality to feel like horror. It's just plain depressing and disgusting. Teppei is truly the only character who is completely unredeemable... him and his gf. They deserve to die every. single. time. |
rafaelfserafimDec 4, 2020 12:10 AM
ssjokg said: The breakdown scene felt weird to me. As if she was trying to force all possible reactions a victim of abuse could have in such a scene. Compared to the original scene it felt more unnatural. And there is one big, for me, difference. In the original Keichi actually pats her head which triggers Satoko's breakdown and we even get a flashback of when Satoshi was doing it, which is why she starts crying, vomiting etc. Here however, Satoko first brushes off his hand. Then starts the breakdown after a delay, again unlike the original where she freezes, breaks down and then pushes him away. I dont think Satoko is able to "defend" herself against her uncle, or anyone she could assume to be an abuser. In the previous arc many thought that she was suspicious, with some old fans suspecting that but I ignored these theories. So what if she is faking it, trying to lead them to act for whatever hr goal is? Maybe I am overthinking this and it was just that the scene sucked compared to the original. I dunno. These were my thoughts too. The show hasn't really been able to have their scarier/shocking scenes live up to the original whatsoever since a lot of it just feels incredibly forced and awkward. |
| damn that was depressing. this just gets darker and darker. |
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| so.... what happen to satoko... is they abused by the uncle.... or what? i not following the VN so yeah... it's hard to me to understand.... or is this same like on higurashi 2006? |
| That PTSD moment was crazy. |
| Satoko's breakdown is so damn uncomfortable. |
| Shoot first, think never. |
| Satoko's route is really such a powerful from the rest because of the abuse theme... I was also one of those who felt pained when watching even the beginning then that ending happened... =(( Mii.... I can already vaguely recall how this ended in the original... 5/5 |
| Satoko's route is really such a powerful from the rest because of the abuse theme... I was also one of those who felt pained when watching even the beginning then that ending happened... =(( Mii.... I can already vaguely recall how this ended in the original... 5/5 Did anyone find K1 annoying this episode? He was so hyper and noisy the entire time. I don't know if it is the seiyuu or he just shouted way too many times. I know his friend is being abused but still... |
booyah10Dec 4, 2020 4:32 AM
ssjokg said: The breakdown scene felt weird to me. As if she was trying to force all possible reactions a victim of abuse could have in such a scene. Compared to the original scene it felt more unnatural. And there is one big, for me, difference. In the original Keichi actually pats her head which triggers Satoko's breakdown and we even get a flashback of when Satoshi was doing it, which is why she starts crying, vomiting etc. Here however, Satoko first brushes off his hand. Then starts the breakdown after a delay, again unlike the original where she freezes, breaks down and then pushes him away. I dont think Satoko is able to "defend" herself against her uncle, or anyone she could assume to be an abuser. In the previous arc many thought that she was suspicious, with some old fans suspecting that but I ignored these theories. So what if she is faking it, trying to lead them to act for whatever hr goal is? Maybe I am overthinking this and it was just that the scene sucked compared to the original. I dunno. There were already some diffrences, maybe in this timeline Satoko's breakdown reason is other, maybe she thought about Teppei instead of Satoshi? I also don't remember part in OG where Satoko goes to Rika and take her staff from her home... so I think is also new thing. I like that one, in original... |
LittleStar said: ssjokg said: The breakdown scene felt weird to me. As if she was trying to force all possible reactions a victim of abuse could have in such a scene. Compared to the original scene it felt more unnatural. And there is one big, for me, difference. In the original Keichi actually pats her head which triggers Satoko's breakdown and we even get a flashback of when Satoshi was doing it, which is why she starts crying, vomiting etc. Here however, Satoko first brushes off his hand. Then starts the breakdown after a delay, again unlike the original where she freezes, breaks down and then pushes him away. I dont think Satoko is able to "defend" herself against her uncle, or anyone she could assume to be an abuser. In the previous arc many thought that she was suspicious, with some old fans suspecting that but I ignored these theories. So what if she is faking it, trying to lead them to act for whatever hr goal is? Maybe I am overthinking this and it was just that the scene sucked compared to the original. I dunno. There were already some diffrences, maybe in this timeline Satoko's breakdown reason is other, maybe she thought about Teppei instead of Satoshi? I also don't remember part in OG where Satoko goes to Rika and take her staff from her home... so I think is also new thing. I like that one, in original... If she thought of Teppei then I doubt she would try to defend in case she anger him more. The chair was just anime being dramatic lol. |
| No sparkling puke? Actually, I'm trying to remember and I'm pretty sure that even the OG doesn't have sparkling vomit. |
| Chie sensei goes to Teppei house for nothing... 😥 Man this episode was so depressing knowing what actually happened with Satoko-chan.... Just about to get Headpat from Keiichi, the PTSD coming in... Satoko-chan losing it, you can really feel the pain it her voice, Nii-Nii 😢 |
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| Yes, I was checking yesterday, but it was pretty late, and I was making a hell of loading the chapters to find it. Tatarigoroshi format is a mess (intentional). |
| Somehow Passione managed to make a disturbing scene turn into a comical one xD I guess in this arc K1 doesn't so I wonder how the arc is going to end |
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| Overall one of the better eps of this series, however, once again, an iconic scene of the OG gets butchered. I don't even know what to think of this new version of Satoko's breakdown, it felt fast and forced, in a sense like they were going through a checklist of what has to happen. Also couple points I could nitpick about, but I'll leave it at that. In the OG they made Satoko feel really fucking miserable on this scene. Here, to be honest, it felt quite awkward, even a bit cringe. :< |
         Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
| to Sakoto se la llevo la chingada |
| My God, that detective totally looks like a rapist or something. WTF Was that at the end?????? The vomit part was kinda cringe ngl. |
Mess with waifu, lose your laifu |
A pattern emerges. |
| Poor Satoko! We need Minagoroshi-hen resolution! Noticed some differences this ep, like in the beginning with Keiichi's dream—smashing Teppei with bat... it might be the beginning of his recollection. Also, there is no mention that Satoko isn’t admitting the abuse because she’s trying to be strong for when Satoshi returns. Last episode, Shion and Keiichi also never had the conversation where she overreacts when Keiichi says he heard Satoshi ‘transferred’ away. So it’s possible Shion doesn’t go crazy at Satoko later for making Satoshi disappear. As far as the episode goes I must admit, the Satoko breakdown in this reboot didn’t hit as hard. I rewatched the original’s rendition for clarity, and it honestly hits so much harder. Satoko’s facial expressions in the OG and her body motions (ie. tugging at the window curtains) really did it for me, and perfectly encapsulated her despair. Though as a caveat, I do think Kanai Mika's voice acting in the original was a bit better since it captured Satoko's despair, AS WELL as her fragility, whereas this rendition might come off as just a bit whiny imo. The facial expressions also don't help— this adaptations obsession with over-dramatizing scenes just dilutes all the important scenes, but this is nothing new.   As an end note, Can I just say I loved the new OST they used for when Rika was waiting for Satoko at home. So good, can’t wait to find out the name! |
| So Satoko has lost it at the end and we can clearly see that she was definitely physically and mentally abused by her uncle. Keiichi also had another dream from one of the alternate timelines where he beat Satoko's uncle to death for that he has done to her. Next week we will get part 3 of the Curse Deceiving Chapter, so that won't end there. This episode was really painful to watch. I just hope that Satoko's uncle will get a much painful death than in the alternate timeline. |
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It is actually very easy to "fake" vomiting by preparing yourself beforehand by coughing non stop for a while. After that you have the feeling of wanting to vomit for a while and you will if you force yourself.And yes eating during that time is a very bad(or good if it was planned)idea. |
random_weirdo said: Or the infamous scene at the end of Onidamashi where Mion is telling Keiichi about Rena, Rika and Satoko's deaths. Her expression was so :| that many old viewers were theorizing it was actually Shion because there was no way Mion would remain that calm while talking about the death of her friend group. I actually liked that scene lol, the VA did a good job making Mion's voice sound sad but like she's trying to keep her sadness inside and show that she's okay and strong in front of the injured Keiichi, i thought her face was like that to reflect that. That's how Mion is, she always tries to show that she's strong but she's actually weak in this kind of situations (maybe this's a weird explanation but that's how i saw it). In the manga there's no voice acting to rely on so he had to make her look sad to reflect her emotions. |
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| Talking about Rika's reactions, that scene where everyone's waiting for Chie to come back from Teppei's house, everyone upset, and then you can see Rika in the background sitting at the stairs in fetal position, to me that was the lowest. It was really sad to see her like that. random_weirdo said: I've noticed they've been using VN's bgm, but not the original ones, but the replaced by mangagamer ones instead. Idk if that's the case, I noticed because I was trying to find something else and ended up finding the bgm that plays when Rena is assaulting Keiichi in Onidamashi.herrickluk said: As an end note, Can I just say I loved the new OST they used for when Rika was waiting for Satoko at home. So good, can’t wait to find out the name! Agreed, it was beautiful and sad. I've seen most people shit on the music because they're reusing too many of the original tracks, but I haven't seen much appreciation for the new tracks, and they have been amazing. If only they used some original, in apropriate moments, for nostalgia's sake, that would be awesome. I'm not criticizing though, I don't think it's desynced at anytime. Especially the main theme, they're using it at the best moments to use it so far. |
rafaelfserafimDec 5, 2020 5:29 PM
| This whole thing wouldnt even been an issue if the Sonozaki family acted like capable yakuza and killed both Rina and Teppei. Ass hats doing half assed jobs. |
ssjokg said: This whole thing wouldnt even been an issue if the Sonozaki family acted like capable yakuza and killed both Rina and Teppei. Ass hats doing half assed jobs. Yakuza is extremely penetrated by the police. And they know it. Therefore, Yakuza murdering anyone is EXTREMELY rare. They mostly do small time crimes like sketchy loans, fraud, computer crimes, extortion, some drug trade etc. |
| Does anyone know if its been implied in other material that her uncle is also sexually abusing her? |
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Russian_Hacker said: ssjokg said: This whole thing wouldnt even been an issue if the Sonozaki family acted like capable yakuza and killed both Rina and Teppei. Ass hats doing half assed jobs. Yakuza is extremely penetrated by the police. And they know it. Therefore, Yakuza murdering anyone is EXTREMELY rare. They mostly do small time crimes like sketchy loans, fraud, computer crimes, extortion, some drug trade etc. Well they did kill Rina. An extra bullet for Teppei wouldnt hurt. Wallanimx said: Does anyone know if its been implied in other material that her uncle is also sexually abusing her? He doesnt, yet. He wants her to get older to "look like her mother". |
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ovy7 said: Also, Funimation's quality translation strikes again:  It's meant to be "step-father", not "real father", that's what Rika said ("義理のお父さん” or "giri no otousan") Funny that Wakanim didn't do that mistake in the french subs, we're quite lucky here ngl Great episode, I agree with people that said the breakdown since was much better done here than in the OG. And I'm curious for this arc's conclusion, it was hard to watch nonetheless |
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| Rika talking in her real voice when speaking to Chie sensei was surprising. You would think she would use her fake one when not talking to Hannyu or when not snapping. I really wonder what she's doing in the shadows, we see so little of it in these question arcs. |
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| The episode was pretty good. It didn't make me feel too good after watching it though. I'm gonna go watch Teppei get beat down in the initial scene again. |
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