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ArcueidBestGirl said: They cut all the monologues so far, a big loss to both old anime and Gou.Disappointed that they cut out both of the monologues here, but they weren't in the original so I shouldn't have expected it. |
| Now as usual Higurashi routine, I've watched both anime versions back-to-back earlier, starting with the remake version and head straight to the original. And even though it gone to a slightly different route than the OG version, this episode is considerably weaker. We're in Satoko's arc but before that we have an interesting dream from Keiichi, huh. Back to the topic, yes it pains my heart that she has to deal with her uncle's abuse. And all of them (except for Rika) are really trying to help her because she's all alone. And she did smile during the last scene of the episode. But when the facade goes away, the true surface is revealed to the outside. That breakdown scene is really terrifying, although it's weaker than the scene from the 2006 anime. And I don't want to say it, but is she fucking pregnant. Like I know she's young in that range of a maturing adolescent but that vomit is not looking good on my thoughts. What an arc to be told and experience, hang on Satoko! |
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rafaelfserafim said: ArcueidBestGirl said: They cut all the monologues so far, a big loss to both old anime and Gou.Disappointed that they cut out both of the monologues here, but they weren't in the original so I shouldn't have expected it. |
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| Is it just me or did Satoko's reaction feels very over the top and forced |
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| Damn. Satoko's voice acting when she snapped at the end was atrocious. |
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KANLEN09 said: Ooishi: The familiar of Oyashiro-sama's Curse, huh. That's a mistranslation though. 使い is more like messenger or errand boy, especially in this context. |
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| I see, he really thought about everything, but it would be no easy task after all. It should've been on the original. In Gou, at least the reason so far was because it turned out to a different ending, a sad excuse to cut the monologues though. If we take that into account, it'll probably not even be Keiichi. But then it'd make no sense to show that, he'd sort of be involved in Tataridamashi's incident. |
rsc-pl said: KANLEN09 said: Ooishi: The familiar of Oyashiro-sama's Curse, huh. 使い is more like messenger or errand boy, especially in this context. yeah they translated it to that in the VN translation https://whentheycry.fandom.com/wiki/%C5%8Cishi_Kuraudo *don't know where specifically in the VN was it so i'll leave the wiki as a source for now * |
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| Hate/love this arc. More subtle differences strengthening the theory that these are just kakeras Rika(?) is drifting threw before Kai or anything. |
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: yeah they translated it to that in the VN translation https://whentheycry.fandom.com/wiki/%C5%8Cishi_Kuraudo *don't know where specifically in the VN was it so i'll leave the wiki as a source for now * Not to mention that (official) subs said his name wrong too. He's Kuraudo no Kurado. |
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AmorphousBlob said: Hate/love this arc. More subtle differences strengthening the theory that these are just kakeras Rika(?) is drifting threw before Kai or anything. How can this be before Kai? |
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rafaelfserafim said: I see, he really thought about everything, but it would be no easy task after all. It should've been on the original. In Gou, at least the reason so far was because it turned out to a different ending, a sad excuse to cut the monologues though. If we take that into account, it'll probably not even be Keiichi. But then it'd make no sense to show that, he'd sort of be involved in Tataridamashi's incident. |
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ArcueidBestGirl said: rafaelfserafim said: I see, he really thought about everything, but it would be no easy task after all. It should've been on the original. In Gou, at least the reason so far was because it turned out to a different ending, a sad excuse to cut the monologues though. If we take that into account, it'll probably not even be Keiichi. But then it'd make no sense to show that, he'd sort of be involved in Tataridamashi's incident. Yes, we're all focusing on Teppei, when this arc has a much larger scale scheme coming up lol. I have no idea what's going to happen this time. |
rsc-pl said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: yeah they translated it to that in the VN translation https://whentheycry.fandom.com/wiki/%C5%8Cishi_Kuraudo *don't know where specifically in the VN was it so i'll leave the wiki as a source for now * Not to mention that (official) subs said his name wrong too. He's Kuraudo no Kurado. At least Ani-one gets it lol (i didn't watch the full episode with their sub so i can't say that it's 100% better)   |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: At least Ani-one gets it lol (i didn't watch the full episode with their sub so i can't say that it's 100% better) Nii-sama fixed it too. And many other things, including Nii-nii. |
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| I wouldn’t bet that Teppei will be around much longer. If only he would pass from this plane, slowly and with unbearable pain rather than a quick smack in the head. |
ArcueidBestGirl said: rafaelfserafim said: I see, he really thought about everything, but it would be no easy task after all. It should've been on the original. In Gou, at least the reason so far was because it turned out to a different ending, a sad excuse to cut the monologues though. If we take that into account, it'll probably not even be Keiichi. But then it'd make no sense to show that, he'd sort of be involved in Tataridamashi's incident. I would say he resembles Shiki more but anyway. raiderublaze said: And I don't want to say it, but is she fucking pregnant. Like I know she's young in that range of a maturing adolescent but that vomit is not looking good on my thoughts. What an arc to be told and experience, hang on Satoko! I still dont get why people think this. And if she was pregnant then she must have been sexually assaulted by someone other than Teppei at least a few weeks before the start of the arc. She wouldnt have morning sickness 2 days later. |
rafaelfserafim said: Yes, we're all focusing on Teppei, when this arc has a much larger scale scheme coming up lol. I have no idea what's going to happen this time. I'm still intrigued about how this arc will end. The original Tatarigoroshi-hen had one of the most unpredictable endings of all time. I'm not sure how they could make it better. Maybe someone other than or along side with Keiichi also survives the end. Well, I doubt we can predict the events leading up to the ending lol, but I'm pretty sure the result will be similar. |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: AmorphousBlob said: Hate/love this arc. More subtle differences strengthening the theory that these are just kakeras Rika(?) is drifting threw before Kai or anything. How can this be before Kai? |
ArcueidBestGirl said: rafaelfserafim said: Yes, we're all focusing on Teppei, when this arc has a much larger scale scheme coming up lol. I have no idea what's going to happen this time. I'm still intrigued about how this arc will end. The original Tatarigoroshi-hen had one of the most unpredictable endings of all time. I'm not sure how they could make it better. Maybe someone other than or along side with Keiichi also survives the end. Well, I doubt we can predict the events leading up to the ending lol, but I'm pretty sure the result will be similar. [spoiler]Just to refresh your memory/clear some things up |
ArcueidBestGirl said: An ending that gives a blast bigger than tatarigoroshi, they'll have to work hard for it lolrafaelfserafim said: Yes, we're all focusing on Teppei, when this arc has a much larger scale scheme coming up lol. I have no idea what's going to happen this time. I'm still intrigued about how this arc will end. The original Tatarigoroshi-hen had one of the most unpredictable endings of all time. I'm not sure how they could make it better. Maybe someone other than or along side with Keiichi also survives the end. Well, I doubt we can predict the events leading up to the ending lol, but I'm pretty sure the result will be similar. |
rafaelfserafim said: ArcueidBestGirl said: An ending that gives a blast bigger than tatarigoroshi, they'll have to work hard for it lolI'm still intrigued about how this arc will end. The original Tatarigoroshi-hen had one of the most unpredictable endings of all time. I'm not sure how they could make it better. Maybe someone other than or along side with Keiichi also survives the end. Well, I doubt we can predict the events leading up to the ending lol, but I'm pretty sure the result will be similar. I've only read the question arcs in the VN and haven't started Kai yet, so sorry if I get anything wrong. |
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ssjokg said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Yeah it was weird seeing her hit his hand before it even touched her, but maybe she felt his hand getting closer and imagined it like a hand coming to hit her (probably Teppei hits her on her head) , like when she heard the principle's footsteps and thought it was Teppei and went crazy. Thought of that, but her breakdowns in the old anime didnt give me the idea that she would defend herself. That would only make things worse for her. Do you think that what R07 said here is related to what we felt in the Satoko scene? idk what he meant here exactly but just remembered this statement from him when we talked about the scene being "weird" i'll be happy really if there was a reason behind that and it's not just a mistake/weird direction from them  Source: https://youtu.be/pqw1K8brA7E |
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ryuurena said: ArcueidBestGirl said: I'm still intrigued about how this arc will end. The original Tatarigoroshi-hen had one of the most unpredictable endings of all time. I'm not sure how they could make it better. Maybe someone other than or along side with Keiichi also survives the end. Well, I doubt we can predict the events leading up to the ending lol, but I'm pretty sure the result will be similar. [spoiler]Just to refresh your memory/clear some things up |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: ssjokg said: Thought of that, but her breakdowns in the old anime didnt give me the idea that she would defend herself. That would only make things worse for her. Do you think that what R07 said here is related to what we felt in the Satoko scene? idk what he meant here exactly but just remembered this statement from him when we talked about the scene being "weird" i'll be happy really if there was a reason behind that and it's not just a mistake/weird direction from them[/img] Source: https://youtu.be/pqw1K8brA7E I wouldnt count that scene as a mistake. A mistake would be wounds disappearing from one shot to the other or other details like that. I want to find the interview where he mentioned something about Satoko. EDIt: NVM it was that video and it was the director that mentioned it. So something IS going on with Satoko. |
ssjokg said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Do you think that what R07 said here is related to what we felt in the Satoko scene? idk what he meant here exactly but just remembered this statement from him when we talked about the scene being "weird" i'll be happy really if there was a reason behind that and it's not just a mistake/weird direction from them[/img] Source: https://youtu.be/pqw1K8brA7E I wouldnt count that scene as a mistake. A mistake would be wounds disappearing from one shot to the other or other details like that. I want to find the interview where he mentioned something about Satoko. EDIt: NVM it was that video and it was the director that mentioned it. So something IS going on with Satoko. Well it still feels "awkward" like he said here (for me at least) |
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| Is it just me or does Ooishi look worse everytime he appears in Gou? The art style really doesn't suit him - he looks horrible :x I'm also not sure if I like Keiichi in this style either tbh. At first I thought it was a male-only-thing, cause the girls all look great, but Irie and Satoshi both look good, so i dunno. Concerning the episode: Everytime I watch/read this arc, my heart just breaks for Satoko. She's so young and had to go through so much trauma already, I always wish I could just give her a big hug and somehow help her :( The others are amazing friends tho & I also appreciate Chie-sensei so much, it's always heartwarming to see how much they care! The inclusion of the scene where Keiichi is killing Teppei (as a dream/flashback) was interesting, but kinda lackluster. I wish they'd have shown a little more and it definitely could've been more graphic imo. Seeing Teppei in pain is always nice lmao. Atlos said: Is it just me or did Satoko's reaction feels very over the top and forced Yeah, it was weird, especially the slight delay between her deflecting Keiichi's hand and her breakdown. The voice acting was also really weird. It was still hard to watch and distrubing tho. ssjokg said: Here however, Satoko first brushes off his hand. Then starts the breakdown after a delay, again unlike the original where she freezes, breaks down and then pushes him away. I dont think Satoko is able to "defend" herself against her uncle, or anyone she could assume to be an abuser. In the previous arc many thought that she was suspicious, with some old fans suspecting that but I ignored these theories. So what if she is faking it, trying to lead them to act for whatever hr goal is? Maybe I am overthinking this and it was just that the scene sucked compared to the original. I dunno. Hmm, I was someone who supported the theory that something is off about Satoko in this season and you might be right: What if she's faking it? I was ready to drop my suspicion, but the execution of her breakdown is honestly reason enogh to keep an eye out (especially after what @Tsukumo_Yuuma metioned from R07's interview)! My biggest hope for this arc is honestly |
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| @Tsukumo_Yuuma @StormxNightmare Speaking of that interview, I watched it all again now and Ryukishi speaks a lot about Rika's pov and how we will see things through her pov. Am I missing something here?Did I skip some episodes where she was the MC we follow? Sure she has the spotlight thanks to the loop reveal in ep2 and her Frederika mode in ep7, but we dont have any scenes from her perspective. |
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ssjokg said: @Tsukumo_Yuuma @StormxNightmare Speaking of that interview, I watched it all again now and Ryukishi speaks a lot about Rika's pov and how we will see things threw her pov. Am I missing something here?Did I skip some episodes where she was the MC we follow? Sure she has the spotlight thanks to the loop reveal in ep2 and her Frederika mode in ep7, but we dont have any scenes from her perspective. I think more interesting stuff will happen in the 2nd-cour (or maybe the 2nd season if there's one), he was probably referring to stuff that will come later. |
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Thanks for the recommendation, I'm definitely gonna read it! :) It's been a while since I've read the VN & my memories of the old anime are way better than those of the VN, so I guess I'll just start reading the whole thing again after I checked out that specific arc ^^' ssjokg said: @Tsukumo_Yuuma @StormxNightmare Speaking of that interview, I watched it all again now and Ryukishi speaks a lot about Rika's pov and how we will see things threw her pov. Am I missing something here?Did I skip some episodes where she was the MC we follow? Sure she has the spotlight thanks to the loop reveal in ep2 and her Frederika mode in ep7, but we dont have any scenes from her perspective. You're completely right, Rika hasn't really been treated as the MC so far, so that's kinda weird :o |
There's no possible way you can steal my heart I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: ssjokg said: @Tsukumo_Yuuma @StormxNightmare Speaking of that interview, I watched it all again now and Ryukishi speaks a lot about Rika's pov and how we will see things threw her pov. Am I missing something here?Did I skip some episodes where she was the MC we follow? Sure she has the spotlight thanks to the loop reveal in ep2 and her Frederika mode in ep7, but we dont have any scenes from her perspective. I think more interesting stuff will happen in the 2nd-cour (or maybe the 2nd season if there's one), he was probably referring to stuff that will come later. I thought of that but I assume that that would be "after the turning point of the story". Unless if that doesnt happen in ep13 or 14. |
| So, this episode we learn more about Satoko and that bastard Teppei. Was also a really chill episode just like last week, some sort of a calm before the storm. Though, the very first scene of the episode already showed us something really interesting indeed (OG vibes). Also, the ending already shows Satoko's fragilities, when Keiichi was going to pat her head, and we also have another mention of her brother Satoshi. Waiting patiently for next week! |
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ArcueidBestGirl said: Same here lol. I started reading the VN in the end of September, but finished Onikakushi and didn't have time to read for a month. Then I take 1 chapter by day or so. I finished Himatsubushi this weekend and will start Meakashi one of these days.rafaelfserafim said: An ending that gives a blast bigger than tatarigoroshi, they'll have to work hard for it lol I've only read the question arcs in the VN and haven't started Kai yet, so sorry if I get anything wrong. |
| Good episode. Poor Satoko |
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matt199 said: this is one of the things i hate about anime government is always useless Unfortunately the same goes for real gov/civil services. The creator of the series was in fact a civil servant before he wrote Higurashi, so the incompetence you see in the anime isnt away from the truth. |
| I was really hoping this arc would be skipped but it looks like that’s not the case |
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| I liked the run-up to Satoko's breakdown a little bit more in this series than the original, but I agree that the voice acting in the breakdown was less organic, which weakened the scene. All in all, I'm still on the side of this being a decent remake that's not quite as good as the original, but it's not so much worse at this point that it couldn't turn things around. |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| Wow,.... i wasnt dissapointed at all... UNTIL this episode... The Best Arc, MY FAVORITE ARC... Ruined... Now i understand why people is laughing with this version. I didnt felt anything while watching the ending part... So sad not cause the episode, but with the episode itself. Forced and Lame. |
| Oh I hated this arc, and fuck Satoko's uncle, poor Satoko. I hope it won't end at the worst route, I'm hoping Rika will help her. |
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ssjokg said: @Tsukumo_Yuuma @StormxNightmare Speaking of that interview, I watched it all again now and Ryukishi speaks a lot about Rika's pov and how we will see things through her pov. Am I missing something here?Did I skip some episodes where she was the MC we follow? Sure she has the spotlight thanks to the loop reveal in ep2 and her Frederika mode in ep7, but we dont have any scenes from her perspective. So I’m kind of confused. Is Keiichi not the main protagonist then? Wth have we been watching all this time then, or am I just seeing things wrong? |
| I cant focus on the actual plot as much as I want to because Im still so curious about the loop thing. Does Rika just plan to do everything again as always? I know she has to keep face but she knows exactly whats going on, yet she seems so passive. We are now 10 episodes in and as far as I can tell its just the same as the old higurashi, so whats the point of the reveal we had early on? Maybe we will get the "new" content for the second cour. @Animillion think about it like this, he is the main character for us viewers but the one to progress the story is Rika |
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