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| [quote=rafaelfserafim message=61023877] Sondfer said: ArcueidBestGirl said: Actually, there's a console arc where Rena, Shion and Keiichi work together, all of them at L5. Wether you consider it canon or not is up to you guys. I don't see a reason not to, if there is, tell me. I always consider them as isolated fragments, excepting the chained ones that lead to Miotsukushi. They didn't lead to anything, but they happened. The game must go on...That is true, but the max amount of people trying to actively kill Keichi in any of the arcs is 1 (if we ignore the Yamainu). Huh, that's actually interesting. I've only read the Question Arcs so far, so I wouldn't know, but I'm guessing that all the console arcs are canon to the main story. |
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Kaneki5 said: Devil_Slayer said: You can. Although it would be better if you watch the second season as well before starting this But I feel like higurashi gou will have the same 4 questions arcs like the original . So Maybe higurashi gou will have a sequel with 4 answers arc no? With the things that have been happening in the show, this is not a true remake. There are many things that are different compared with the original. There will also be many things that won't make sense unless you watch Kai first. |
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| So we did get a 'reset'. Ok so far, the only noticeable difference is the game that K1 played |
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Kaneki5 said: Devil_Slayer said: You can. Although it would be better if you watch the second season as well before starting this But I feel like higurashi gou will have the same 4 questions arcs like the original . So Maybe higurashi gou will have a sequel with 4 answers arc no? The answer and question arcs for Higurashi Gou will also be split. The story so far has been basically the same with few tweaks here and there that the original watchers aware of while newcomers know nothing about. Overall I think it would be better if you just watcher Kai because it provides answers to the first season, instead of watching Gou which is basically just another loop raising more questions. |
Devil_Slayer said: Hard to decide who is best girl between Rena and Mion. The answer is Shion. |
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Kaneki5 said: rholeros said: i think so, but why not watch Kai? i mean...are you not interested in knowing wtf is going on after all you just watched? You are missing the Answear Arc... I want to know everything but I feel like this Season is not a sequel to higurashi kai. I feel like this is higurashi first Season but with different arcs Literal all those changes of events are impossible without the events of Higurashi Kai. Rika already know what happened on Kai. |
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Gar_Logan said: It feels like a huge reach to say "she will grow up to be devilishly attractive" is an intentional Umineko reference or a foreshadowing moment. This quote was in the original VN too so no, it's not an Umineko reference since I don't think they were even planning Umineko at that point in time, but it is a reference to Bernkastel. At the beginning of every chapter in Higurashi, you are greeted with a poem made by "Frederica Bernkastel" that describes her suffering and the poems themselves have repetition of a couple of lines which is probably referencing |
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Kaneki5 said: Devil_Slayer said: The answer and question arcs for Higurashi Gou will also be split. The story so far has been basically the same with few tweaks here and there that the original watchers aware of while newcomers know nothing about. Overall I think it would be better if you just watcher Kai because it provides answers to the first season, instead of watching Gou which is basically just another loop raising more questions. So higurashi gou will have another Season with different answer arcs than the original Season ? Pretty much. Kai is meant to be an answer arc to the original first season not for Higurashi Gou. So you willl be confusing yourself for no reason. If you watched the first season, just continue with Kai then come and see Gou Don't worry, Kai is actually much better than the first season. |
| Interesting, Keiichi gave the doll to Mion instead of Rena. Good decision in the long-run but maybe it actually won't change much, we'll see. The twins thing always makes my head hurt, I can't tell when they switch and who's who at the time xD The maid and the person who delivered the lunch box was most likely Mion. But at the same time, they might be trying to double-trick us so it could actually be Shion? Who knows. I'm really glad I watched the OG series now though, I'm way more excited for the next episode than I was when I didn't. |
  "As promised, all that you seek, all that we desire, is prepared up there. On top of the Tower." |
| Btw, I always found it weird how Mion ship Rena/Keiichi hard in the first arc, then goes full dere dere for Keiichi in the second arc. If she also had a crush on him why did she push them. |
ArcueidBestGirl said: Gar_Logan said: It feels like a huge reach to say "she will grow up to be devilishly attractive" is an intentional Umineko reference or a foreshadowing moment. This quote was in the original VN too so no, it's not an Umineko reference since I don't think they were even planning Umineko at that point in time, but it is a reference to Bernkastel. At the beginning of every chapter in Higurashi, you are greeted with a poem made by "Frederica Bernkastel" that describes her suffering and the poems themselves have repetition of a couple of lines which is probably referencing Unless the poems use the exact phrasing Rena used, I still don't think it's an overt reference to anything. |
kofmaster said: abpout shion and mion, look at the mirror: That mirror wasn't there just because random xD Doesnt mean anything except that they fucked up the reflection. |
ssjokg said: kofmaster said: abpout shion and mion, look at the mirror: That mirror wasn't there just because random xD Doesnt mean anything except that they fucked up the reflection. The mirror image isn't a copy-paste. Her eyes are different and the reflect is crooped on the "long-hair" segment, make it looks like Mion. I think they fucked up the reflection just to draw attention to the mirror. You don't put a mirror in a mistery just because potato. |
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Gar_Logan said: ArcueidBestGirl said: This quote was in the original VN too so no, it's not an Umineko reference since I don't think they were even planning Umineko at that point in time, but it is a reference to Bernkastel. At the beginning of every chapter in Higurashi, you are greeted with a poem made by "Frederica Bernkastel" that describes her suffering and the poems themselves have repetition of a couple of lines which is probably referencing Unless the poems use the exact phrasing Rena used, I still don't think it's an overt reference to anything. That is true. I just find it as a nice easter egg. |
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| So nobody is talking about the Tsukihime reference? That's sad. kofmaster said: The mirror image isn't a copy-paste. Her eyes are different and the reflect is crooped on the "long-hair" segment, make it looks like Mion. I think they fucked up the reflection just to draw attention to the mirror. You don't put a mirror in a mistery just because potato. It seems pretty copy pasted to me. Or they just fucked up. The mirror would matter if it was facing a window and we could see something outside. But this doesnt show anything. At best it is symbolism of some kind. |
| Yeah, this was a pretty great start to the new arc. K1 thinking about the doll and who to give it to was incredibly tense, and I was glad that Rika jumped in and told him to give it to Mion. I wonder what kind of consequences this will have. |
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Are you talking about how Chie-sensei loving curry is similar to Ciel? Yeah, I got it. Although it took me all the way until the All-cast review of Himatsubushi-hen to realize Chie was a reference to Ciel. XD |
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How do y'all remember all of this. |
| Was so sweet to see Mion happy when she got the doll. <3 Btw you guys know what I feel is missing in this series? No interesting previes, just the name of the chapter and which part it will be. While in OG Higu and in Kai we got the quotes and the short scenes of Kuro Rika Corner. Feels a bit anticlimatic to have just the name of the chapter after the ending now -_- |
| I am so lost. Wtf was this episode? Didn't most of them die in the last episode? I'm a first-time watcher, and I understood absolutely nothing from this episode. And the worst of all is everyone but me seems to understand what the hell's going on. Someone enlighten me pls. |
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ArcueidBestGirl said: Are you talking about how Chie-sensei loving curry is similar to Ciel? Yeah, I got it. Although it took me all the way until the All-cast review of Himatsubushi-hen to realize Chie was a reference to Ciel. XD She is just missing her "Tohno-kun..." line and she is exactly the same. Sad that in TM the closest I remember to a reference, if it can even be called that, is Sir Kay,who was good at "making bs arguments" and is voiced by Ono Daisuke. |
nanimeanswhat said: I am so lost. Wtf was this episode? Didn't most of them die in the last episode? I'm a first-time watcher, and I understood absolutely nothing from this episode. And the worst of all is everyone but me seems to understand what the hell's going on. Someone enlighten me pls. That's why we tend to recommend to watch the old anime, since this is a kind of sequel. you will understand that soon anyways, just enjoy the madness. |
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kofmaster said: nanimeanswhat said: I am so lost. Wtf was this episode? Didn't most of them die in the last episode? I'm a first-time watcher, and I understood absolutely nothing from this episode. And the worst of all is everyone but me seems to understand what the hell's going on. Someone enlighten me pls. That's why we tend to recomment to watch the old anime, since this is a kind of sequel. Anyways, you will understand that soon anyways. But... But they said that this was a reboot so I jumped straight into this one because I didn't want to spoil myself. Plus the old anime is well... old. The situation is just too messy tbh. |
| If you read Eleceed you're automatically my friend. |
nanimeanswhat said: But... But they said that this was a reboot so I jumped straight into this one because I didn't want to spoil myself. Plus the old anime is well... old. The situation is just too messy tbh. They lied. Go watch the old one. This one is basically S01 but with a twist. |
nanimeanswhat said: kofmaster said: That's why we tend to recomment to watch the old anime, since this is a kind of sequel. Anyways, you will understand that soon anyways. But... But they said that this was a reboot so I jumped straight into this one because I didn't want to spoil myself. Plus the old anime is well... old. The situation is just too messy tbh. Soince the second episode, this isn't a remake anymore and the show tends to play with the old watcher's expectations. For example on the previous arc, Rena going crazy catches all the old watchers by surprise, even so if for new watchers that looked obvious, because we know some stuff about those arcs. Just to say something, the second episode give you huge spoilers about the second season of the old show (Higurashi Kai). Anyways, I think even so new users will receive information and answers on this show. You can go blind with it, is just that you doesn't receive the full experiencie. This is like: |
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nanimeanswhat said: Even if you start the old series like others have said you will still feel the same since the structure of the series is the same.I am so lost. Wtf was this episode? Didn't most of them die in the last episode? I'm a first-time watcher, and I understood absolutely nothing from this episode. And the worst of all is everyone but me seems to understand what the hell's going on. Someone enlighten me pls. It will make sense eventually. |
kofmaster said: nanimeanswhat said: But... But they said that this was a reboot so I jumped straight into this one because I didn't want to spoil myself. Plus the old anime is well... old. The situation is just too messy tbh. Soince the second episode, this isn't a remake anymore and the show tends to play with the old watcher's expectations. For example on the previous arc, Rena going crazy catches all the old watchers by surprise, even so if for new watchers that looked obvious, because we know some stuff about those arcs. Just to say something, the second episode give you huge spoilers about the second season of the old show (Higurashi Kai). Anyways, I think even so new users will receive information and answers on this show. You can go blind with it, is just that you doesn't receive the full experiencie. This is like: lol that's exactly what I did with the game. Then if this show turns out to be good I'll like it even if I don't watch the OG because |
| If you read Eleceed you're automatically my friend. |
| Things of note with the whole Mion-Shion switchings: - At Angel Mort, when Shion introduces herself, she says "ane (姉)" which is actually "big sister". In the Watanagashi, she refers to herself as "imouto (妹)" which is little sister. Like most of us are guessing, that is actually Mion at Angel Mort. - Though the day after K1 calls Shion Mion's "little sister (imouto)" even though at Angel Mort 'Shion' introduces herself as "ane". I don't know if this is a key point or just a continuity error. - I'm not sure if on this same day, the one being Mion is actually her or Shion. To me it could be either. - I'm pretty sure though it's Mion pretending to be Shion when going to K1's house. Being far more embarassed about it, talking about the doll and in the next day at school, she doesn't question/seem confused about K1 giving her back the bento boxes (which happened in Watanagashi, albeit just after the biker incident). I was also trying to look at subtle mannerisms, but I haven't gotten anything yet. I'm also a filthy casual who didn't actually read the VNs, just lots of synopsises of each arc and some snippets of them, so I could be totally off about everything when comparing it to the Watanagashi sister switchings. |
jTiKey said: nanimeanswhat said: But... But they said that this was a reboot so I jumped straight into this one because I didn't want to spoil myself. Plus the old anime is well... old. The situation is just too messy tbh. They lied. Go watch the old one. This one is basically S01 but with a twist. Dammit. I don't really have time tho. I can barely keep up with all the seasonals. ssjokg said: Even if you start the old series like others have said you will still feel the same since the structure of the series is the same. It will make sense eventually. Ok thanks. I'll keep watching then, I hope it makes sense soon. |
| If you read Eleceed you're automatically my friend. |
nanimeanswhat said: ssjokg said: Even if you start the old series like others have said you will still feel the same since the structure of the series is the same. It will make sense eventually. Ok thanks. I'll keep watching then, I hope it makes sense soon. Yeah both are structured the same way, everyone said the same thing in EP5 of the old anime too, idk why would they say that you didn't understand this because you didn't watch the old one lol. Anyway if you're intending to continue this anime without the original, don't stay in this MAL discussion posts, they're FULL OF SPOILERS and no one cares to tag them (except some people). |
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AnnualStorm said: mirakle5 said: bruh you should've marked that as spoilersThis choice of giving the doll to Mion instead of Rena is very important, because otherwise it would trigger a cascade of events that would end up very bad for Keiichi. For more details see the original anime. no one cares to tag spoilers here, they'll just say "aHHh wElL iT'S a sEqUel sO i'LL sPoiL tHE oLd sEaSoNS wHy aRE yOu wAtChInG tHiS wItHoUt thE oRiginaL aNywaY" They're becoming more annoying than source martial readers spoiling animes for everyone, at least those people doesn't spoil in discussion posts most of the time. |
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nanimeanswhat said: kofmaster said: Soince the second episode, this isn't a remake anymore and the show tends to play with the old watcher's expectations. For example on the previous arc, Rena going crazy catches all the old watchers by surprise, even so if for new watchers that looked obvious, because we know some stuff about those arcs. Just to say something, the second episode give you huge spoilers about the second season of the old show (Higurashi Kai). Anyways, I think even so new users will receive information and answers on this show. You can go blind with it, is just that you doesn't receive the full experiencie. This is like: lol that's exactly what I did with the game. Then if this show turns out to be good I'll like it even if I don't watch the OG because because And yeah, even if this show doesn't explain everything I'm sure once the show is finished people will can explain to you some details that you missed. So just enjoy the show. |
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Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Yeah both are structured the same way, everyone said the same thing in EP5 of the old anime too, idk why would they say that you didn't understand this because you didn't watch the old one lol. Anyway if you're intending to continue this anime without the original, don't stay in this MAL discussion posts, they're FULL OF SPOILERS and no one cares to tag them (except some people). Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I gotta stay away from the discussion pages lol. I did see some spoilers here but thankfully almost all of them flew over my head. |
| If you read Eleceed you're automatically my friend. |
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: Yeah both are structured the same way, everyone said the same thing in EP5 of the old anime too, idk why would they say that you didn't understand this because you didn't watch the old one lol. Anyway if you're intending to continue this anime without the original, don't stay in this MAL discussion posts, they're FULL OF SPOILERS and no one cares to tag them (except some people). More for stuff like the plot tricking the old watchers and some major spoilers of kai, as i said. You can enjoy this show skipping the old one and that's fine. It's just recommended to watch the old one for the full experience. |
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| I feel like Shion has a bigger chest than in the Original back in 2006. |
| Shion is very hot and cute on this episode the blushing was priceless. Well looks like Maebara is happy as soon as they become Yandere he eventually spook out. Rika having those cat ears was so fucking damn cute, so far this new Higurashi is very amazing. |
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DrLarsen said: that's so true lol.I feel like Shion has a bigger chest than in the Original back in 2006. |
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Sondfer said: I wonder if it's fans of the original, blinded by nostalgia, are downvoting this. I don't think that's the case, most fans of the original (including me) appreciate this as a sequel as far as I can tell :o Ofc there might be some that are blinded by nostalgia, but there were a lot of newcomers complaining about the aftermath of the stabbing scene last episode, so they could be responsible as well - probably a mix of both. |
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| My man Keichii tipping those kids over to the dark side with those irresistible deals. I mean, who wouldn't want their own cat eared Rika? (: Finally get introduced to Shion and boy is she rocking that maid outfit. Keichi, you're a man of culture too I see. The guy who keeps taking him to the maid cafe would be proud. Last scene was spooky in it's own way. |
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DrLarsen said: I feel like Shion has a bigger chest than in the Original back in 2006. Most definitely. Kinda disappointed by that tbh, the art style really makes it more sexualized (no offense to people who like that or aren't bothered - all the power to you ig). But oh well, that's just how it is, not a major inconvenience. |
There's no possible way you can steal my heart I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
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