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Feb 5, 2020 11:57 AM
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It goes without saying, but My Hero Academia is having a really hard week. The franchise was on the up days ago, but the release of its most recent chapter derailed things a bit. The update revealed the real name of the doctor who worked under All For One, but its context left some fans horrified. Now, the series is being quickly barred in China, and its ban just got worse. According to new reports from overseas fans, it seems a major streaming service in China has put the breaks on My Hero Academia's anime. The licensor Bilibili has pulled all four seasons of the anime off its site. The platform is one of China's biggest when it comes to streaming, and its takedown of My Hero Academia comes after its manga was closed. Yesterday, reports went live which confirmed both Bilibili and Tencent had taken down the manga for My Hero Academia. The series are no longer available on the sites' online libraries, and Bilibili said the title was taken down in accordance with China's policies. It also seems like My Hero Academia's gaming prospects are being challenged. Not long ago, a brand-new mobile game based on the anime went live, and it reeled in many fans. Unfortunately, the game has temporarily shut down since its developers are Chinese. https://comicbook.com/anime/2020/02/05/my-hero-academia-ban-china-expands-anime-games-controversy/ since there is a news article about this now then might as well share it here big profit loss for My Hero Academia going forward it will remind them that if you want a global product/service then you should consider the global customers different histories and cultures too EDIT: ANN reported it now too here My Hero Academia Manga, Anime Removed from Chinese Digital Platforms The name of a My Hero Academia villain reopened wounds in China leading to the series' manga and video game to be pulled. My Hero Academia creator Kōhei Horikoshi will change the name of villain Daruma Ujiko after the character's real name was revealed as a reference to victims of human experimentation during World War II. The manga villain, who is shown to engage in human experimentation himself, had his full name revealed in chapter 259 as "Maruta Shiga." "Maruta" refers to the code-name for human experimentation undertaken by the Imperial Japanese Army's Unit 731 during the Second Sino-Japanese War of World War II. The Chinese victims of the experiments were called "maruta," the Japanese word for "logs" as a reference to the facilities cover story that it was a lumber mill. Victims, including children, the elderly, pregnant women, and the mentally handicapped, were purposefully infected with diseases, dissected, lobotomized, and amputated while still alive. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-02-05/my-hero-academia-manga-anime-removed-from-chinese-digital-platforms/.156125 |
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Feb 5, 2020 12:03 PM
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damnnnn. i ain't surprised tho. we've always been pretty sensitive with this stuff especially when so many chinese got tortured and slaughtered by japanese. but knowing how piracy is a big thing in china, it won't stop fans from still watching it illegally. |
MayukaFeb 5, 2020 12:25 PM
Feb 5, 2020 12:19 PM
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A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. Anyway this definitely a bad news for MHA I hope it recovers from this lose. |
Feb 5, 2020 12:23 PM
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Xstasy said: Actually it isn't banned in China. I was able to find Winnie the Pooh on multiple Chinese-based search engines while I was in China last year. This is just fake news spread on Western media to make China look bad, yet again. It's more of a meme at this point.A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. |
Feb 5, 2020 12:25 PM
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China is doing similar things to Unit 731, they are becoming the monsters they revile so much. They have no leg to stand on. |
Feb 5, 2020 12:26 PM
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Lmao China literally throwing a tamtrum and demanding another country to change a product to suit their needs. Literal definition of a special snowflake. |
Feb 5, 2020 12:40 PM
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Mayuka said: Xstasy said: Actually it isn't banned in China. I was able to find Winnie the Pooh on multiple Chinese-based search engines while I was in China last year. This is just fake news spread on Western media to make China look bad, yet again. It's more of a meme at this point.A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. That is what I read online. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi |
Feb 5, 2020 12:45 PM
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Xstasy said: Those are not credible sources. People will literally believe anything written on western media. For example, the Corona Virus video of a girl eating a bat. It was in Palau not in China but people wrote China in the viral tweets.Mayuka said: Xstasy said: A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. That is what I read online. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi I've been to china several times in my life. I've watched Winnie the Pooh in China and saw the plushies being sold at Disney stores. Idk. You can also search it on Baidu like the above user has said. Hoppy said: China is doing similar things to Unit 731, they are becoming the monsters they revile so much. They have no leg to stand on. Ah, here we go again. https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/wiki/fakenews-china/religion I'm just gonna link this. You can do your own research and think about what to believe. TL;DR: Many of the Uyghur Concentration Camp viral videos you see on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook are all fabricated. China has literally invited the United Nations to come visit for themselves to Xinjiang. Uyghur people who have come out about their stories were all hired by CIA or never even been to China as well. I'm not gonna deny it exists. It could possibly exist but right now non-mainlainders are acting as if it's the truth. |
MayukaFeb 5, 2020 12:48 PM
Feb 5, 2020 12:51 PM
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yes you should consider the global customers different histories and cultures but not retarded snowflakes, if you get into the mindset of a retarded snowflake suddenly everything becomes inconsiderate even breathing |
Feb 5, 2020 12:53 PM
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Viltas said: yes you should consider the global customers different histories and cultures but not retarded snowflakes, if you get into the mindset of a retarded snowflake suddenly everything becomes inconsiderate even breathing true but its hard to measure which is a snowflakes censorship and a culture/history censorship |
Feb 5, 2020 12:54 PM
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Yudina said: I've read through the threads, some of it is pretty valid and debunks the theories. Again, I'm not denying the concentration camps exist. There just isn't any proof at the moment. A lot of r/Sino posts are definitely a bit biased but this subreddit is more valid than most other subreddits which fakes captions and such.For what it's worth, I wouldn't trust r/Sino, I don't think they really have anything on the subject that isn't covered better elsewhere/doing your own research. Doing your own research is pretty hard when most English websites are biased against China and pro-America lol. I was very anti-China until recent when I did my own research though. I was under the influence of most of the western news outlets making up stories and fake translations. |
Feb 5, 2020 1:00 PM
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Yudina said: Nah I get your point. I'm just saying, most people won't be able to find those news themselves. It's practically impossible to find anything legit when big news sites are all creating fabricated stories. What is your stance on the Uyghur situation?Mayuka said: I mean more just actual investigation to confirm it yourself. Like finding out that the initial report about the reeducation centers that was broke by Reuters was funded by some "China Tribunal" which is actually just a front for the Epoch Times, which is a Falun Gong sponsored propaganda machine.Yudina said: For what it's worth, I wouldn't trust r/Sino, I don't think they really have anything on the subject that isn't covered better elsewhere/doing your own research. Doing your own research is pretty hard when most English websites are biased against China and pro-America lol. I was very anti-China until recent when I did my own research though. I was under the influence of most of the western news outlets making up stories and fake translations. |
Feb 5, 2020 1:08 PM
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Yudina said: Do you think it's on the same level as Unit 731? I don't think it's to that point of badness. At least, there isn't proof of that revealed yet.Mayuka said: They seem kind of bad, but really depends on how you think about it. A lot of it is cultural erasure at the expense of economic development, so I don't think you can make everyone happy in this kind of trade off.Yudina said: Mayuka said: I mean more just actual investigation to confirm it yourself. Like finding out that the initial report about the reeducation centers that was broke by Reuters was funded by some "China Tribunal" which is actually just a front for the Epoch Times, which is a Falun Gong sponsored propaganda machine.Yudina said: I've read through the threads, some of it is pretty valid and debunks the theories. Again, I'm not denying the concentration camps exist. There just isn't any proof at the moment. A lot of r/Sino posts are definitely a bit biased but this subreddit is more valid than most other subreddits which fakes captions and such.For what it's worth, I wouldn't trust r/Sino, I don't think they really have anything on the subject that isn't covered better elsewhere/doing your own research. Doing your own research is pretty hard when most English websites are biased against China and pro-America lol. I was very anti-China until recent when I did my own research though. I was under the influence of most of the western news outlets making up stories and fake translations. But they aren't organ harvesting centers lmfao From some things I've watched, it seems pretty peaceful and has given a lot of people a chance at a new life in China. |
Feb 5, 2020 1:18 PM
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Yudina said: No, I'm saying I doubt Chinese people are testing on non-Chinese in China and raping/killing them like the way Japanese did to Chinese. I think you are misunderstanding me.Mayuka said: Wait, do you not how bad Unit 731 was lmfaoDo you think it's on the same level as Unit 731? I don't think it's to that point of badness. At least, there isn't proof of that revealed yet. From some things I've watched, it seems pretty peaceful and has given a lot of people a chance at a new life in China. When I meant cultural erasure I meant it in the context of transforming Xinjiang both economically and socially to fit with China's Belt & Road Initiative. A lot of cultural icons, statues, historical figures, and certain areas have been transformed which ultimately has long lasting effects on the culture and religion of the Uyghur people, which is pretty different, no thanks in part to the vastness of China's geography. It's a give or take scenario, where I think you have pretty valid complaints anyway you swing it, but the wilder complaints are largely unverified and untrue. For now at least. Yes, I know about cultural erasure. I recall it's mostly to get rid of the security issue of terrorism too. They still are allowed their religion, can embrace it and even have places to pray so I don't see it as completely destroying what they have. |
Feb 5, 2020 1:29 PM
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deg said: Viltas said: yes you should consider the global customers different histories and cultures but not retarded snowflakes, if you get into the mindset of a retarded snowflake suddenly everything becomes inconsiderate even breathing true but its hard to measure which is a snowflakes censorship and a culture/history censorship I agree it can be difficult thats why there are always long and huge debates about censorships in many individual cases. Social Media really doesn't help with this and its arguably what makes these issues more toxic than they have to be |
Feb 5, 2020 2:50 PM
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Ok, so a Japanese author recognises Japanese war crimes by creating a villain that alludes to these crimes, and the ones offended are...the Chinese? Wew. Tough crowd. |
Feb 5, 2020 4:19 PM
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Xstasy said: A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. Anyway this definitely a bad news for MHA I hope it recovers from this lose. What's next, banning mickey mouse? Lmao |
Feb 5, 2020 5:53 PM
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terminador_2397 said: Xstasy said: A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. Anyway this definitely a bad news for MHA I hope it recovers from this lose. What's next, banning mickey mouse? Lmao that would be corpate suicide for any country. |
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Feb 5, 2020 6:16 PM
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hazarddex said: terminador_2397 said: Xstasy said: A totalitarian Chinese government banning things color me surprised. This is the same government that banned Winnie the Pooh after president Xi got butthurt over the memes. Anyway this definitely a bad news for MHA I hope it recovers from this lose. What's next, banning mickey mouse? Lmao that would be corpate suicide for any country. Nothing is impossible at this point so its only a matter of time before it happens. |
Feb 5, 2020 7:45 PM
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What the helll? Boku no Hero Academia is like the most tame battle shonen ever made. |
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Feb 5, 2020 8:20 PM
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Satyr_icon said: Ok, so a Japanese author recognises Japanese war crimes by creating a villain that alludes to these crimes, and the ones offended are...the Chinese? Wew. Tough crowd. Named after victims though not the perpetrators so it may be implied intentionally or not the villain is a victim turned villain. Understand the context now? |
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Feb 5, 2020 8:40 PM
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traed said: Named after victims though not the perpetrators so it may be implied intentionally or not the villain is a victim turned villain. Understand the context now? Yeah yeah, I get it. |
Feb 6, 2020 5:18 AM
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The Streisand effect will happen once again, I'm sure none of us would have heard of the Winnie the poo insult if China didn't ban it. No one would have cared about MHA but the ban will mean people will go out and seek it to see what the fuss is all about. |
Feb 6, 2020 5:42 AM
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Probably Japan would start teaching their dark imperial past in their school textbook next time so their younger generation would have more context about the world that give birth to them, nah, it's Japan we're talking about, they're fine with paying war reparation but not with the guilt that comes with it. |
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Feb 6, 2020 9:10 AM
#26
The people watching My Hero Academia in China weren't even alive during world war 2. |
Feb 6, 2020 12:03 PM
#27
I hope Japan finally accomplishes the job of finally pissing off the Chinese. They got screwed over by such soft humor. I imagine how boring must be to be a Chinese comedian. Can't even joke dark topics. |
''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.'' |
Feb 6, 2020 12:49 PM
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so discussing bnha is the chinese officials' choice of entertainment in between discussions on the coronavirus. funky. |
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Feb 7, 2020 4:21 AM
#29
@Mayuka Actually,m there was a ban that involved Pooh, but that was just that the meme got banned. And the Uyghur situation doesn't have conclusive evidence, if there was then maaany countries would have thrown shit like sanctions towards China ALREADY. But most of us also weren't aware of the German concentration camps until the allied forces and the russians invaded Germany in order to take down the Nazis. |
Feb 7, 2020 8:58 AM
#30
I mean... I thought china was notorious for banning lots of popular anime all the time? I swear that popular anime like attack on titan and deathnote are banned over there, with many other anime that are also banned. As for the doctors name thing, im not that happy, its a pretty insensitive idea on the creators part. I wouldnt stop watching the series over this though. |
Feb 7, 2020 10:41 AM
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I mean, I think they have a lot more to worry about at the moment But it is a damn shame that fans resorted to sending death threats to Horikoshi |
Feb 7, 2020 10:56 AM
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Bourmegar said: Yeah, that's the point. There hasn't have conclusive evidence. Just people not living in China making articles about it and everyone believing it's legit lol. Many countries support US after all :/And the Uyghur situation doesn't have conclusive evidence, if there was then maaany countries would have thrown shit like sanctions towards China ALREADY. |
Feb 7, 2020 11:00 AM
#33
I was going to make a smart educated post but I couldn't take it seriously with all of the Winnie The Pooh content in this thread. The first thing that came to mind: |
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Feb 7, 2020 11:59 AM
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Mayuka said: Bourmegar said: Yeah, that's the point. There hasn't have conclusive evidence. Just people not living in China making articles about it and everyone believing it's legit lol. Many countries support US after all :/And the Uyghur situation doesn't have conclusive evidence, if there was then maaany countries would have thrown shit like sanctions towards China ALREADY. The problem here is that we know for a fact that there is no freedom of speech in China and that officials will always spin the stories in the way that it favors the state. On the other hand we have a bunch of journalists from multiple countries with little reason to lie. Anyone can see why people would prefer to believe the latter. If China wants others to actually believe in what they're saying, they should stop their censorship. Until that happens independent journalists are always more trustworthy source than whatever the "official" truth is. |
Feb 7, 2020 12:10 PM
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NthDegree said: I'm not defending how China works but if you think about it, the censorship makes it safer to live there compared to in the states and Canada. There is so much freedom of speech here that it's dangerous to go outside. I mean, a lot of media outlets post fake news here all the time. You can make a tweet and make a fake caption for something and it can go viral. Mayuka said: Bourmegar said: And the Uyghur situation doesn't have conclusive evidence, if there was then maaany countries would have thrown shit like sanctions towards China ALREADY. The problem here is that we know for a fact that there is no freedom of speech in China and that officials will always spin the stories in the way that it favors the state. On the other hand we have a bunch of journalists from multiple countries with little reason to lie. Anyone can see why people would prefer to believe the latter. If China wants others to actually believe in what they're saying, they should stop their censorship. Until that happens independent journalists are always more trustworthy source than whatever the "official" truth is. In the west, I see protests all the time between extremists and people hurting each other. It is more controlled in China as protests are not a thing without government permission. There is barely any security here. Anyone can hop on the subway. In China, there are metal detector machines you have to go through to enter the subway. It is much more controlled so that an outrage won't occur. "On the other hand we have a bunch of journalists from multiple countries with little reason to lie." It's definitely possible the US has paid writers to create articles to write for their own profit/benefit though. |
Feb 7, 2020 1:10 PM
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Mayuka said: NthDegree said: I'm not defending how China works but if you think about it, the censorship makes it safer to live there compared to in the states and Canada. There is so much freedom of speech here that it's dangerous to go outside. I mean, a lot of media outlets post fake news here all the time. You can make a tweet and make a fake caption for something and it can go viral. Mayuka said: Bourmegar said: Yeah, that's the point. There hasn't have conclusive evidence. Just people not living in China making articles about it and everyone believing it's legit lol. Many countries support US after all :/And the Uyghur situation doesn't have conclusive evidence, if there was then maaany countries would have thrown shit like sanctions towards China ALREADY. The problem here is that we know for a fact that there is no freedom of speech in China and that officials will always spin the stories in the way that it favors the state. On the other hand we have a bunch of journalists from multiple countries with little reason to lie. Anyone can see why people would prefer to believe the latter. If China wants others to actually believe in what they're saying, they should stop their censorship. Until that happens independent journalists are always more trustworthy source than whatever the "official" truth is. In the west, I see protests all the time between extremists and people hurting each other. It is more controlled in China as protests are not a thing without government permission. There is barely any security here. Anyone can hop on the subway. In China, there are metal detector machines you have to go through to enter the subway. It is much more controlled so that an outrage won't occur. "On the other hand we have a bunch of journalists from multiple countries with little reason to lie." It's definitely possible the US has paid writers to create articles to write for their own profit/benefit though. "I'm not defending how China works but..." nope, that is exactly what you're doing. Besides, goverment mandated propaganda is "fake news" all the time too, so I'm not really seeing your argument. Speaking as neither Chinese nor American... What you said about paying off journalists just comes off as a nonsense conspiracy theory. Why would US care in the first place? There is no advantage in paying them off. The Chinese already ruined their reputation with Tiananmen Square Massacre and other political repression. Besides, it's not like US has been in good terms with other Muslim groups lately. None of it makes sense. On the other hand, China obviously cares what other countries think about it, so there is a motive. Furthermore, it is a well established fact that they use censorship and propaganda. Why would anyone believe what they have to say against that background? Of course, an easy way of debunking any false claims would be to allow people report from there freely to show there is nothing to hide... But obviously that's not happening. |
Feb 7, 2020 6:45 PM
#37
@NthDegree @Mayuka (oversimplifying here) the debate over security and freedom has been a long argument but it definitely seems like people generally prefer freedom, and that's before we get into governments doing shady shit and the propaganda machine hiding it and lying to it's people (and in North Korea's case making them believe they have it better than others, hopefully China doesn't do that, seems hard to do unless you're as isolated as NK) |
Feb 8, 2020 5:01 AM
#38
This is by no means a clear issue. But it makes me sad that people seemingly never give each other the benefit of the doubt. Grudges never end.. |
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