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Jul 23, 2019 2:48 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The Wizard King is amazing, no matter how you look at it. He's on another level when it comes to magic and shows it without being arrogant.

Being a Wizard King has so many responsibilities. Damn.
Jul 23, 2019 3:56 AM
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Welp, here we go. That fight was insane. It sucks that Licht is such a fuckin pussy that he had to attack the citizens to kill Julius. What happened in his past doesn't get any pity from me. I hope Yami kicks his ass.
Jul 23, 2019 4:02 AM
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This was so fucking epic
I could cry
I need to higher my Black Clover rating

Jul 23, 2019 4:30 AM
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Is it me or was this just so much better than All Might and All for One? I thought that arc was boring compared to this.
Jul 23, 2019 4:41 AM
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i guess for you it seems that all might vs all for one is better
but shane thinks this is better than that. tbh idk lol
Jul 23, 2019 4:41 AM
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Did you guys see anything? I didn't see anything because of the rain here.
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Jul 23, 2019 4:42 AM
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God fucking dammit.... Awesome fight and backstory, but to see a great man like Julius to get taken down in such a manner hurts. An underhanded tactic was to be expected, given how OP the Wizard King was. A large scale attack on the whole country was still something I didn't see coming. I just hope we will get some kind of farewell between him and Yami or some final words, instant death would make sense, but they can't let him go like this. Already gonna miss all the funny scenes with him and his fanboying over magic;_;

Next week another flashback or a brief exchange between Yami and Licht? We will see.

Black Clover is amazing btw.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Jul 23, 2019 4:43 AM
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OGAnime said:
shane_nichols said:
Is it me or was this just so much better than All Might and All for One? I thought that arc was boring compared to this.


In terms of fight, yes. But overall no. The fight lacks emotion, horrible generic soundtrack to such an epic moment and epic fight. All Might vs AFO barely had any blows but you could feel the weight of each punch, the burden of a hero and how important it was for him too win. This fight just had cool animation, that’s all.


I respect your opinion but I have to disagree with that. The stakes here are much higher than it was in MHA. Like if we do an analogy here, All Might retiring as a Hero, he's like Cap America in the Endgame BUT Julius is the Tony Stark and that's why this is more impactful and emotional. His speech alone feels more heavy than seeing consecutive punches.
Jul 23, 2019 4:49 AM
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wonhallyu17 said:
OGAnime said:


In terms of fight, yes. But overall no. The fight lacks emotion, horrible generic soundtrack to such an epic moment and epic fight. All Might vs AFO barely had any blows but you could feel the weight of each punch, the burden of a hero and how important it was for him too win. This fight just had cool animation, that’s all.


I respect your opinion but I have to disagree with that. The stakes here are much higher than it was in MHA. Like if we do an analogy here, All Might retiring as a Hero, he's like Cap America in the Endgame BUT Julius is the Tony Stark and that's why this is more impactful and emotional. His speech alone feels more heavy than seeing consecutive punches.


That’s exactly my point. The stakes ARE higher here. Yet it lacks any emotion due to the generic and weak soundtrack. I barely felt anything in comparison to MHA fight. When Julius was having his flashback or his assistant was given his orders, the soundtrack that went with them were bland as hell. No different from any other BC moments
Jul 23, 2019 4:51 AM

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This episode was epic.I even stopped breathing when i watched it and spell that could destroy whole country was something i was not expecting.I am curious who will be the next Wizard King
Jul 23, 2019 4:52 AM

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And that's why he is the Wizard King, damn :(
Jul 23, 2019 4:53 AM

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OGAnime said:
wonhallyu17 said:


I respect your opinion but I have to disagree with that. The stakes here are much higher than it was in MHA. Like if we do an analogy here, All Might retiring as a Hero, he's like Cap America in the Endgame BUT Julius is the Tony Stark and that's why this is more impactful and emotional. His speech alone feels more heavy than seeing consecutive punches.


That’s exactly my point. The stakes ARE higher here. Yet it lacks any emotion due to the generic and weak soundtrack. I barely felt anything in comparison to MHA fight. When Julius was having his flashback or his assistant was given his orders, the soundtrack that went with them were bland as hell. No different from any other BC moments


Welp, I thought the osts used here are great but anyways to each his own. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jul 23, 2019 5:07 AM
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OGAnime said:
shane_nichols said:
Is it me or was this just so much better than All Might and All for One? I thought that arc was boring compared to this.


In terms of fight, yes. But overall no. The fight lacks emotion, horrible generic soundtrack to such an epic moment and epic fight. All Might vs AFO barely had any blows but you could feel the weight of each punch, the burden of a hero and how important it was for him too win. This fight just had cool animation, that’s all.
Deku vs Todoroki had a strategic fight and his back story was well put. All Might vs AFO was just...boring came out of fuckin nowhere and ended in one punch after a stupid asspull where he just randomly pumps up his broken arm. The villain was so easily beaten it was just sad. All this build up for AFO and he just loses in one punch. That's boring. Litch was a threat and the author showed that. He used cowardly tactics just to beat the Wizard King who was much stronger. And wtf do you mean it had no emotion. Julia's back story was pretty much spot on and it was a good finish to his character and its gonna progress the plot. The next arc is pretty much the best one and its gonna flesh out Litch very strongly. I'm not hating on BNHA but season 3 was so boring.
Jul 23, 2019 5:11 AM

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And then there are people (myself included) who enjoyed both fights for different reasons. Personal preferences aside, you don't have to downplay the other one. And besides, I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.

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Jul 23, 2019 5:17 AM
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And then there are people (myself included) who enjoyed both fights for different reasons. Personal preferences aside, you don't have to downplay the other one. And besides, I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.
cant go wrong there. That fight was superior to both back when Naruto was great.
Jul 23, 2019 5:17 AM

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> I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.

even got offed the same way anyways, a sword to the front


can we all just take time to appericiate how someone like zara managed to not just have a large impact on his son, but also to someone like freaking julius
this is why zora is indrirectly best boy
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Jul 23, 2019 5:25 AM

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Its time to start the fucking manga, someone say me from what chapter should I continue after this episode. ASAP please.
Jul 23, 2019 5:30 AM

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I was so fucking sure he was going to die way earlier in the fight. It was so telegraphed it was amazing.

Hopefully Yami puts up a fight but I expect that Licht end up escaping.

OGAnime said:
shane_nichols said:
Is it me or was this just so much better than All Might and All for One? I thought that arc was boring compared to this.


In terms of fight, yes. But overall no. The fight lacks emotion, horrible generic soundtrack to such an epic moment and epic fight. All Might vs AFO barely had any blows but you could feel the weight of each punch, the burden of a hero and how important it was for him too win. This fight just had cool animation, that’s all.

I think anyone can see that the soundtrack for Black Clover is a bit lackluster. The black clover soundtrack just doesn't have the same hype behind it. It's a shame but they're stuck with the style they chose from the start. No changing it now.

For reference, here's a similarly important scene from the original Naruto to compare.
https://youtu.be/FvkExGuEak4?t=993

Maybe it's the guitars lol, guitars make everything more badass.
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That was so good it hurts even though I knew the outcome of this fight.
Jul 23, 2019 5:31 AM
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Its time to start the fucking manga, someone say me from what chapter should I continue after this episode. ASAP please.
140 something. It's around there.
Jul 23, 2019 5:33 AM
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shane_nichols said:
fistyoursoul said:
Its time to start the fucking manga, someone say me from what chapter should I continue after this episode. ASAP please.
140 something. It's around there.

Yup, this episode adapted 144, 145 and a few pages of chapter 146.
Jul 23, 2019 5:49 AM

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shane_nichols said:
FMmatron said:
And then there are people (myself included) who enjoyed both fights for different reasons. Personal preferences aside, you don't have to downplay the other one. And besides, I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.
cant go wrong there. That fight was superior to both back when Naruto was great.


Indeed. A class of it's own. Maybe not just because of the fight itself, but the whole set up and aftermath were handled masterfully 👏🏻 Still gotta give credit where credit is due. Even after having seen countless anime, MyHero and Black Clover still manage to get me pumped.

@Mei-o_Scarlett

Respect for Zara :S

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Jul 23, 2019 5:51 AM

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FMmatron said:
shane_nichols said:
cant go wrong there. That fight was superior to both back when Naruto was great.


Indeed. A class of it's own. Maybe not just because of the fight itself, but the whole set up and aftermath were handled masterfully 👏🏻 Still gotta give credit where credit is due. Even after having seen countless anime, MyHero and Black Clover still manage to get me pumped.

@Mei-o_Scarlett

Respect for Zara :S

shame that we had no budget to give him a diff va =/
so he just sounds like focking zora
reeeee
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
FMmatron said:


Indeed. A class of it's own. Maybe not just because of the fight itself, but the whole set up and aftermath were handled masterfully 👏🏻 Still gotta give credit where credit is due. Even after having seen countless anime, MyHero and Black Clover still manage to get me pumped.

@Mei-o_Scarlett

Respect for Zara :S

shame that we had no budget to give him a diff va =/
so he just sounds like focking zora
reeeee


Lol, the lack of respect, tho.

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Jul 23, 2019 5:53 AM

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FMmatron said:
Mei-o_Scarlett said:

shame that we had no budget to give him a diff va =/
so he just sounds like focking zora
reeeee


Lol, the lack of respect, tho.


nah respect him alot,
just like, i die a little whenever i hear his voice is just midorikawa who doesnt even attempt to change his voice to sound older
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Jul 23, 2019 5:56 AM

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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
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Lol, the lack of respect, tho.


nah respect him alot,
just like, i die a little whenever i hear his voice is just midorikawa who doesnt even attempt to change his voice to sound older


I meant from the staff. And it's a joke of course :D

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Jul 23, 2019 5:58 AM
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I knew it's going to happen and I still wanna cry
Jul 23, 2019 5:58 AM

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Respect and rest in peace Julius Novachrono The Wizard King. The people will dearly miss u. One of the saddest scene in the entire series.
Jul 23, 2019 6:04 AM

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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
> I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.

even got offed the same way anyways, a sword to the front


can we all just take time to appericiate how someone like zara managed to not just have a large impact on his son, but also to someone like freaking julius
this is why zora is indrirectly best boy
Nah more like Deidara vs Gaara.
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NeoAnkara said:
Mei-o_Scarlett said:
> I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.

even got offed the same way anyways, a sword to the front


can we all just take time to appericiate how someone like zara managed to not just have a large impact on his son, but also to someone like freaking julius
this is why zora is indrirectly best boy
Nah more like Deidara vs Gaara.

end result is that but gets stabbed the same way(and yknow, what the magic king is)

bc just doing waht it does best and combines parts

It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Jul 23, 2019 6:10 AM

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NeoAnkara said:
Mei-o_Scarlett said:
> I would rather compare this with 3rd Hokage vs Orochimaru.

even got offed the same way anyways, a sword to the front


can we all just take time to appericiate how someone like zara managed to not just have a large impact on his son, but also to someone like freaking julius
this is why zora is indrirectly best boy
Nah more like Deidara vs Gaara.


Just the sacrifice part. The set up, the respective roles of the characters and the stakes align more with the Hokage vs Orochimaru.

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The biggest difference between All might vs AFO and Licht vs the WK is that All might vs AFO is the ending of an arc while Licht vs the WK is the beginning of an arc.
Jul 23, 2019 6:27 AM

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What an episode that had me stunned in awe and leaving me breathless.

The fight between Julius and Licht surpassed levels of imagination and a mindset of power vs. loyalty.

Having Zora's dad influence how Julius has to embody the true spirit and soul of the Magic Knights is a huge undertaking. It's no wonder at the very start that Julius began taking close looks at the Black Bulls and Yami himself, having both Yami and William being aides alongside him other than the servants.

But Julius's price to pay is for his insane level of magic power, that had Licht one step closer to earthly oblivion.

Yami got there just in fine, but not enough to save Julius from his impending death by the hands of Licht. How would Yami not take this lying down?
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This reminded me of sandaime hokage. The fight was epic.
Jul 23, 2019 6:52 AM

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When Julius is as powerful as he is, I guess the only way to take him out is in a way like how Licht did. Not much else to say other than that was a great episode!
Jul 23, 2019 6:55 AM
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Why this episode have better animation than asta vs ladros ? I know Studio pierrot can do amazing action animation when they became serious .
Jul 23, 2019 6:58 AM

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It only gets better from here.. RIP Julius, you were an awesome Wizard King. Waiting for next week for some Yami action.
Jul 23, 2019 7:23 AM

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Fucking battle shounens and their fucking habits of killing OP, likeable supporting characters. I mean, considering all the deathflags Julius pulled this episode (and the previous one), it was expected, but that doesn't makes it any less painful ;_; Great end to a great battle, that has easily positioned into my top 5 favorite fights of Black Clover.
Was nice to see how much Zara inspired Julius and how, despite being killed by some jealous assholes, he left a legacy behind. It makes this episode all the more painful, however T_T

After this, I hope someone beats the shit out of Licht by the end of the arc, be Yami, Asta, Sekke or the cook of the palace. He must pay for this.
Jul 23, 2019 7:33 AM

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Amazing ep, the Noelle fight will be my favorite anime moment if it gets this treatment.
Julius :'(
Jul 23, 2019 7:56 AM

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Incredible episode and fight. Really respect Julius for being the guy he is.
Jul 23, 2019 8:02 AM

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Great impactful, well animated, well acted and very well placed fight. Best episode of the series so far.
Jul 23, 2019 8:22 AM
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Glad I was able to continue until here to watch the epic battle. Best episode ever! Sad to see the king died :(
Jul 23, 2019 8:41 AM

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even though i knew it was gonna happen im still so fucking sad
Jul 23, 2019 8:46 AM

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It was expected to happen but damn does it not make it any sadder. Smart play by Licht, ended up using Julius' selflessness to his advantage when otherwise he seemed invincible, big F for Julius

Next up Yami vs Licht pt.2. Wonder how he's gonna deal with the fight given how Licht is technically also Vengeance
Jul 23, 2019 8:57 AM
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this fucking episode

"please rate this 1-10"

me: yes




honestly, for about a year now, this is the anime I'm always looking forward to
Jul 23, 2019 9:08 AM
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Dope episode!

Some astonishing animation and action choreography this episode but a really strong backstory and characterisation to boot, all round great stuff! Mad props to the Wizard King here, taking the hit for himself instead of the devastation of the whole Kingdom. Yami is just about it time, but what can he possibly do despite Licht being battered too for sure? Some really nasty plan that from Licht to take down the Wizard King though but he’s definitely got a lot more power sealed I’m assuming, tough opponent for sure. “Being the Wizard King is your one and only Weakness” - really powerful quote here. Seeing more on the Wizard King and Zora was a really nice treat too! Things are definitely progressing in the right direction, as in peasants being recognised equally and such, but it’s too bad he won’t be around to see it (most likely). Death flags were strong since last episode but it didn’t disappoint one bit! Looking forward to next episode! Hopefully, Mereolona will take down the Sloth now before they’ve a chance to regroup and come back even stronger.
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Jul 23, 2019 9:35 AM

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NO not the wizard king I thought everything would be alright as long as we had him It's like watching the third Hokage die all over again.
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Jul 23, 2019 9:36 AM
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When the production team get their head down, they can produce great episodes.
Less weird one-line fillers, and more expansion of the story please, I was pleasantly surprised about the Zara part as it was a small part in the manga but the anime expand on it and nailed it beautifully. It didn't overstay its welcome but able to convey Julius' story

Great stuff, I hope for more quality episodes like this

PS : It's nice to see the good guys aren't nerfed so the bad guy can win, Julius was gloriously strong and without hostages (Vangeance included) Julius could have one shotted Litch
Jul 23, 2019 10:03 AM

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Julius is clearly had big disadvantages here. His responsibility as a wizard king and he had to capture Licht alive. I bet he could've killed him if that's his goal from the start.

Also Julius should've stopped Licht when Licht was preparing his 'attack', in that way he should still alive. Well it's not like he's dead yet, but he's dying, hope someone can still heal him.

Nonetheless, great episode.
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This was epic! To think that the last few episodes I've only had praise for Black Clover and this episode proves once more why this is so.

Backstory was really good, nice to see that Zara's way of putting the people of the Clover Kingdom before himself, was such an inspiration for Julius.

Fight was really epic, sad with the outcome of the fight, but hopefully is Yami in time to give Licht a good beating.

I can't wait for next week!
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