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sasukeskapa said: I'm quite sure McGillis told him to escape while he makes that commotion to do this (kill Orga) and get Mikazuki to follow him instead. Can't wait to find out if I'm right or not :D I was actually thinking the same thing. It's not actually far-fetched but who knows if this was the case. I think McGillis wants Mikazuki on his side but he knows that Mikazuki won't follow anyone but Orga, so maybe he wanted Orga out of the way? Well, I guess we'll know for sure in the next episode. No matter what, I want McGillis dead. I think things started to go that way since Tekkadan agreed to work with him. Sadly, I expected Orga to die. :( I didn't want it to happen as I liked him but I guess either he or Mikazuki had to go. I never once thought that both might survive till the end. And since Orga is already dead, I guess Mikazuki will live. Um, okay. Does this mean that Kudelia is already Mikazuki's woman now? The fact that both she and Atra kissed him on the cheek before leaving means that she agreed to be part of their family, right? I'm sorry but I see this as out of character for Kudelia. Yes, she loves Mikazuki but I didn't think she'd agree to be in a polyamorous relationship with him and Atra. She did promise Mikazuki to protect Atra and their baby but I take it that she also agreed to be part of the family. Honestly, I think Orga was a better fit for Kudelia but of course I never thought it'd happen as Kudelia is obviously in love with Mikazuki. Sad but I liked their last interaction in this episode. Can't wait to see what will happen in the last two episodes. Will both McGillis and Gaelio die? I see Rustal getting killed for sure but who knows about Iok. Julieta will most probably survive as she's not fighting this time. |
Lelouch0202 said: I second everything you said here except I don't mind the escape plan muchGoddamn this episode. T.T Fareed was pretty awesome, wrecking his opponents with Bael. Loved it when he stabbed Iok's cockpit, someone please tell me Iok is dead. Why can't they just kill him off? This just sucks man. Looks like we really are going with the escape plan, I'm still not really sure if I'm gonna be satisfied with an ending like that but I'll save my thoughts until the final episode has aired. ORGA T.T , This is bullshit man. Why did they have to kill him off randomly out of nowhere by some random drive-by goons? That sucks, seriously this sucks. Really sad way for his character to go out. It's like they killed him because he had to die. The blood marks at the end were a really nice touch though, especially with that last drop of blood trickling forward. IRON BLOODED BONDS TEKKADAN <3 I still wish they come up with some plan to wreck Gjallharhorn. FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, I swear if Rastal and his fucking dumbass followers (And yes that includes Gali Gali) don't die I will be pissed But I'm happy for Azee and the surviving Turbines (Seeing them talk about Naze, Amida and Lafter gave me feels though) but FUCK MAN, I thought Orga was gonna survive this thing, FUCK |
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Eternaloid said: Gundam rule 1: If a chapter has the name of a character, It will die. Next chapter: Mcgillis Fareed... I'm sure as hell last episode will be called Tekketsu No Orphans or Tekkadan. does this mean everyone dies? |
| Man, when they were talking how they finally had a complete plan and were talking happily with hopes, i was just screaming ''NO. SHUT UP. SOMEONE WILL DIE IF YOU KEEP GOING'' and dammit, fucking Orga died. NOOOOOOOOO |
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Eternaloid said: Gundam rule 1: If a chapter has the name of a character, It will die. Next chapter: Mcgillis Fareed... Nah can't be. He's gonna wreck everything Rustal has lived up for. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| This is utter BS. Many say it was MCgillis Fareed, I better hope not because this is not simple. I do not know how the heck they found out easily on this... But I better see that Mika go BERSERK after this. I am not playing at all. Like I need to see everything about Gajllorhorn destroyed, every single ONE OF THE ANTAGONISTS!!!! |
| Iok is a bloody cockroach. I have never seen such a character have so much plot armour in a series. space griffith could have been my favourite character in this series but he just had to miss iok. Mcgillis conversation with mika about mika not being able to use the true power of barbatos will be wronged in the next episodes when mika rips the assholes off rustals troops in rage.Maybe if he gets the true power he can get rid of his vegatable state and continue orgas work as he still will probably only do what orga wants even after orga dies. He was not my favourite but i grew so attached to orga as he has been there since day one and is the focal point of the group and has had so much development. I saw a death coming when the streets where empty I just did not expect it to be orga who i thought was going to be taken hostage and made and example of. |
| I didn't expect Orga to die right now but his death was a little too late so you don't really feel emotional towards it. I have a feeling the last 2 episodes (don't think a season 3 is on the cards) will be so rushed that the plot is gonna fall apart by the time we reach the finale. Killing Orga now is like killing Lok Kujan, Nobliss Gordon etc...there aren't any good and bad sides, it's just that everyone has their own motive to reach their goals. Technically the producer can just kill everyone we ever known in the series right now in various ways but it would be ridiculous. In other words, despite the audience's dissatisfaction there will definitely be survivors on every sides (I'm actually extremely happy about this result because it works for this series) whether it's the good or bad side in our minds. It would be so cheesy if everyone on our hate list dies while all the ones we want to see live ends up living. I have to agree with others that McGillis planned Orga's death so that he could take Orga's place and have Mika by his side in order to exploit him. In other words, he back-stabbed Orga the same way he did to Caarta Issue in season 1. If it were me, I would love to see Gaelio kill McGillis in the worst possible way. |
ShanaFlameMar 19, 2017 9:05 AM
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sasukeskapa said: Lelouch0202 said: ... ORGA T.T , This is bullshit man. Why did they have to kill him off randomly out of nowhere by some random drive-by goons? ... I'm quite sure McGillis told him to escape while he makes that commotion to do this (kill Orga) and get Mikazuki to follow him instead. Can't wait to find out if I'm right or not :D Knowing McGillis that's completely possible |
| I wonder why Mc Gillis alone now? Did he have a fleet of Galarahon when he arrived at Mars, or the other member leave him because he considered as traitor now. It makes sense that he killed Olga to make Tekadan help him, by using "olga revenge". |
Psycho_Pass said: Am I the only one would liked the low-key way Orga died? I'd prefer this over a telegraphed heroic death that you could spot a mile away. I liked it too. Reminds me a little bit of Yang Wen-li's death from LoGH. |
| McGillis just charged in and started fighting. Iok went after him, but the idiot still lives. It sucks how many times he survived. It's a terrible way how Orga died. Gunned down like a dog. RIP Orga. |
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| I remember how Mika raged out over Biscuit dying, but they just took out Orga. Mika is killing everyone in the last two (2) episodes. |
| Well I knew he was gonna die the moment he was given that gun and made that 'promise'. Though I didn't expect him to die out of the blue like that, or even in this episode (thought he'll die in the next episode or two). Reminds me of how Lafter died out of the blue, the poor thing, because, like her, I totally thought he'd be safe at the moment. Guess not, once again. He suddenly gets offed. lol Oh well. Sucks, but whatever. Mika certainly won't be happy about this (then he'll die too, I'm sure. xD). |
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| Standing around in the streets, chatting in broad daylight, when you're the most wanted (dead, not alive, definitely not alive) man in the Solar System is such a *great* idea. It ended about as expected. My prediction from earlier was that Iok will end up as the winner who rules all in the end. He's still the most hated anime character for me. |
sasukeskapa said: Daniel_Naumov said: This is hardly possible. If you pay attention, the goons were practically the same goons standing next to the Gordon Nobliss while he was contancting Rustal Elion, inviting him to Mars. They obviously have a headquarters in Chryse and it would not be that hard for a crime syndicate to find out there is that one group in the city that keeps creating problems for them. It was a successful assassination attempt by Nobliss, Gordan. We'll see, but I think it's quite likely as his dialogue and actions were about getting Mika on his side but failed, and then his fight with Gjallarhorn was unnecessary unless he wanted to do something with the ones who escaped while it. Remember that they are under jaming by Gjallarhorn, and out numbered, i don't think McGillis will waste his men to assasinate Orga. He might knew that the building will be under Monitoring and that something might happen and didn't warn them, but having Tekedan survive and able to flee its not bad for him either, it will ensure that he himself would have an escape if every thing go to hell. Also McGillis never used underhand method, even when killing Gaelio he went to kill him himself (not like Elion rustal), it would have been out of character for him to do that. On the other hand Nobliss and Rustall have everything to gain from this, if Orga die, Tekedan will be headless, most of them would probably want revenge and then follow McGillis against Gjallarhorn. If Tekedan and McGillis get wiped their next targed would be kudelia and Makanai (remember that both of them survived assasina attempt, kudelia from Nobliss and Makanai from Rustall) We also learned during this episode that apart from re-establishing Gjallarhorn authority they also want to do something about Mars and the Mars branch. Its not in their interest that Kudelia stay alive as "the maiden of revolution", and can also blame her trough Tekedan (like manipulating the media to say that she is in fact behind every thing Tekedan did etc..) and use her as an exemple. |
EdrinnMar 19, 2017 10:41 AM
Edrinn said: sasukeskapa said: We'll see, but I think it's quite likely as his dialogue and actions were about getting Mika on his side but failed, and then his fight with Gjallarhorn was unnecessary unless he wanted to do something with the ones who escaped while it. Remember that they are under jaming by Gjallarhorn, and out numbered, i don't think McGillis will waste his men to assasinate Orga. He might knew that the building will be under Monitoring and that something might happen and didn't warn them, but having Tekedan survive and able to flee its not bad for him either, it will ensure that he himself would have an escape if every thing go to hell. Also McGillis never used underhand method, even when killing Gaelio he went to kill him himself (not like Elion rustal), it would have been out of character for him to do that. On the other hand Nobliss and Rustall have everything to gain from this, if Orga die, Tekedan will be headless, most of them would probably want revenge and then follow McGillis against Gjallarhorn. If Tekedan and McGillis get wiped their next targed would be kudelia and Makanai (remember that both of them survived assasina attempt, kudelia from Nobliss and Makanai from Rustall) We also learned during this episode that apart from re-establishing Gjallarhorn authority they also want to do something about Mars and the Mars branch. Its not in their interest that Kudelia stay alive as "the maiden of revolution", and can also blame her trough Tekedan (like manipulating the media to say that she is in fact behind every thing Tekedan did etc..) and use her as an exemple. Finally someone pointed out Nobliss because those men who killed Orga supposedly worked for him and with all the jamming I doubt McGillis would have any time to scheme this. Prove me wrong in the next 2 episodes as I will cry rivers if McGillis really went so far as to have Orga killed to achieve his own goals. |
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| OH GAWD!! ORGA? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I am go sad and angry right now!! I'm so pissed that Iok is STILL alive after receiving that attack from Bael while Orga dies on the sidewalk protecting Ride. What will it take for that stupid piece of shit to die?! Damn! I know it's only 2 eps left, but I don't even want to finish them now. Sadus said: Psycho_Pass said: Am I the only one would liked the low-key way Orga died? I'd prefer this over a telegraphed heroic death that you could spot a mile away. I liked it too. Reminds me a little bit of Yang Wen-li's death from LoGH. I was a mess for weeks over Yang Wen-li's death. He was my favorite character from LoGH. |
Hannah_AnaMar 19, 2017 10:56 AM
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| Damn why did it have to be Orga to go out in that fashion? It should have been IOK. I would be happy if somehow Orga survived and appeared on the last episode. |
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| I was thinking he was going to die in this episode after that talk with Mika, and I was right on the mark. lol I just didn't expect him to die like this, which is a little like Lafter's death. Psycho_Pass said: Am I the only one would liked the low-key way Orga died? I'd prefer this over a telegraphed heroic death that you could spot a mile away. What do you mean? It was pretty heroic since he shielded one of his comrades from the bullets, and I found his death rather easy to spot. Not dying in this sort of way, but his death in general. The death flag has been waving in my face after that talk with Mika. lol |
AlliedWishesMar 19, 2017 11:27 AM
| I actually didn't expect Orga to die, but as soon they were leaving the company it was obvious it was going to happen. Same set-up as Lafter, but the death scene was so over the top and the assassins kinda jobbed it that it almost turned funny. Given the villains' plot armor, at this point I kinda expect a kill-them-all ending except maybe some minor Tekkadan like Ride or Yamagi. HatsumiShinogu said: Um, okay. Does this mean that Kudelia is already Mikazuki's woman now? The fact that both she and Atra kissed him on the cheek before leaving means that she agreed to be part of their family, right? I'm sorry but I see this as out of character for Kudelia. Yes, she loves Mikazuki but I didn't think she'd agree to be in a polyamorous relationship with him and Atra. She did promise Mikazuki to protect Atra and their baby but I take it that she also agreed to be part of the family. Honestly, I think Orga was a better fit for Kudelia but of course I never thought it'd happen as Kudelia is obviously in love with Mikazuki. Sad but I liked their last interaction in this episode. Honestly, the storyline feels like someone wanted to make history with a threesome "ending", I don't think you can really apply common sense to Okada's writing it, considering Mika and Kudelia's personalities and the (poor) chemistry/interactions within them. She actually had more chemistry with Orga yeah lol. |
Jin_uzukiMar 19, 2017 11:36 AM
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| wtf. This epsiode pretty much sums up why this season is far worse then the first one. Why the actual fuck did orga die? And so out of nowhere? And why for ride and not Kudelia and/or Atra. By now I hope everyone dies. Except McGillis. Pls note that by everyone I mean that I dont care if the universe where to end in a heat death just now AS LONG AS IOK FINALLY DIES. everytime Iok doesnt die God kills a loli. How can anyone really think McGillis was the one responsible for the shooting. The same guys stand right next to the old bastard that used Kudelia since season one. Besides, if Tekkadan cant contact anyone, how would McGillis do it? |
Comander-07Mar 19, 2017 12:00 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Well ... it was a bit too quiet at the end. I knew something would happen. Tbh I thought Orga would die a bit earlier and McGillis would just put purposely put less effort in the distraction so he'd get killed. My guess is that McGillis had some way to contact people loyal to him in the other city and ordered them to kill Orga. (Or he leaked the info to Arianrhod while fighting.) It's obvious that he wants Mika to help him fighting. (And that's also what I as anime viewer have been longing to see for a long time now. Together they'd pwn all the enemies.) But since Mika has no own will (only doing what Orga wants) he needed to remove Orga. Edit: Didn't notice the connection between Nobliss Gordon and the guys that killed Orga - until I read someone mention it in the thread here. But if I remember correctly Nobliss Gordon was managing/controling the media and the media was at the place where McGillis fought and he might have known that the media is in contact/controlled by Gordon. So the theory that he leaked something while fighting (might be possible to transmit something while the others from Tekkadan back in the base in the tunnels won't be able to intercept/hear it). |
LuthandoriusMar 19, 2017 11:53 AM
| Orga... Now it's time for Mika to give all his body to Barbatos and devour all Tekkadan's enemies |
| Freaking the shittiest most annoying character survives while the most awesome one dies. That's what makes this a great gundam series. Toying with my emotions like that. |
| i knew it i knew something was about to happen just how everything was leading especially when heading to the car but god this have got to be the worst death im like im so sad/angry about Orga dying i really wanted him to survive but damn this death really hit the hardest and i wonder how Mika is gonna react when he finds out about it these last few eps will be intense |
DazeFireMar 19, 2017 12:22 PM
| "one step at a time" |
| Ok, they're going to have to have one hell of an ending to make this all worthwhile and frankly, I don't see how that's going to be possible in 2 episodes. |
| While I liked the episode overall, the pace has slowed down waaay too much for my liking. Hopefully we can get some momentum going on the way to the finale. So were those guys hired guns of Nobliss Gordon? That'll probably be revealed next week, I'm guessing. I'm glad that Orga's use of himself to shield Ride was so reflexive. Even as we've followed him for 2 seasons, that still says a lot. I'm sad to see him go, but he died believing in the future of his family. At least now he can be with Biscuit and Shino. |
| The foreshadowing of either Orga's or Mika's death was strong in this one. It was really just a matter of who. I really wanted to believe it wasn't going to happen because we're finally at the end of all of this and maybe the dynamic of things might change. But no; Orphans stays true to its strict rules of killing off its characters. (Iok is excused due to his plot armor. :( ) Once I saw Orga walk out, I immediately thought about Lafter (which was honestly the most surprising death in my opinion) and just knew that the same thing would happen to him. Why do they do this??? They make you dread finishing each death-pisode with their obnoxious foreshadowing! |
| Maddening episode and after maddening episode. Edge of my seat now. |
Farabeuf said: The last 6 or 7 episodes have turned this from being the premier action series this season into an exercise in masochism. What a perfect summation of how I feel about S2. Good lord. |
| Orga death is underwhelming since it's exact same way as Lafter |
| 2B or not 2B? |
| Oh boy this will divide people no doubt, I personally actually found this episode relieved alot of my worries for how the series will end and while i would of preferred a more traditional finale do think the show can work out this way. That said I really like orga's death, its really low key and not heroic in the slightest much like shino and lafter's death. I think ibo avoids alot of war dramas faults of overglorifying violence which ibo actually was kind of on the verge of doing at a few points, but this 2nd season if anything has shined nothing but a negative light on combat and how things dont always work out. I wouldnt say this death was shock value like some claim though, if any death is that its lafter, this feels more just how the show is solidifying a war in the pocket esque ending as in its a botched plan and the repercussions that follow. I do wish there were more episodes left though as I still feel like this could of been much better had it happened 5 or 6 episodes ago. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
My sibling and I knew it was coming a few seconds beforehand and we still weren't prepared. The episode was called "Promise" but it should have been called "Death flag" instead. I am beyond pissed that Iok lived once again while Orga died by a drive-by shooting. His words at the end hit hard though. I hope Mika will hear what he said. |
JotakakMar 19, 2017 5:55 PM
xeco said: because he will die soonFinally Mika is free , he is not a tool anymore , the only good thing from this season is the threesome , if naze had harem why mika cant have both girls ? |
| 2B or not 2B? |
| Summary time! Is Iok still alive after all that? Can't even get a suicide provocation right lol. Will he end up surviving the series, to the ire of every fan watching? Still, Bael is good looking in action. Pretty good plan by Orga, all the pieces falling into place. New identities, escape tunnel, a way off Mars. Good to see Azee up and about again. RIP Orga, my man. It was never going to work out. Pretty sure McGillis is behind this hit. Or at least it wasn't Rustal. Either way I thought it was suspect when McGillis said "Farewell Tekkadan" as he turned his face away from the screen. Then his monologue about not being like Mika, and his breaking away from Tekkadan. If this was Rustal's doing he'd have ordered a swat team and press to surround them. No need for a secret hit squad; he wanted the death of Tekkadan broadcast in plain daylight after all. EDIT: After reading comments, yeah likely to be Gordon Nobliss' men. Not discounting the possibillity that McGillis is involved however ;P |
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