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Aug 16, 2016 11:19 PM
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Washington (AFP) - Donald Trump, who during his presidential campaign has vowed to ban Muslim immigrants and erect a wall to prevent Mexican immigration, said Tuesday that he would reject bigotry "in all forms" if elected president. "This is my pledge to the American people: as your president I will be your greatest champion," Trump said in a statement posted on Facebook. "I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally," the Republican presidential nominee said. "We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all its forms, and seek a new future built on our common culture and values as one American people." The pronouncement comes as something of a surprise from a candidate who until now has done little to endear himself to minorities or women. The embattled Republican presidential nominee has made a successful campaign out of incendiary rhetoric and defying political correctness. But a recent series of gaffes had even members of his own party begging him to reel in the brash remarks. Trump's denigration of the family of a fallen Muslim American soldier was seen by many as a monumental campaign misstep. The two sides have slung criticism at each other, with Khan accusing Trump of Islamophobia, assailing his "ignorance and arrogance." The feud has become a turning point of the tumultuous 2016 White House race pitting Trump against Democrat Hillary Clinton. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-vows-reject-bigotry-elected-president-012510065.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thoughts? |
Aug 16, 2016 11:32 PM
#2
Trump strikes me as a person who is single minded, he thinks business and making america great. He said it 20 years or so ago he wouldn't run for president unless he saw the country going down the drain and everything Ive seen from him says he is genuinely trying to make america great in the only way he can. Hes straight forward, you got an ISIS problem, infiltrating migrants? stop migrants until the ISIS threat is dealt with. He doesn't care about upsetting people he cares about getting things to work. Problem with illegals coming over, bringing drugs and taking jobs? build a better wall than the fence they have already its not crazy America has had armed border with Mexico for many years he just wants to upgrade it. I don't think hes a racist, sexist or anything 'ist' as people call him because he has spent years caring only about making business and business suffers if you refuse to deal with groups of people based on skin or sex. If hiring women would improve his business and make money he would hire women cause making the bank is the most important thing to him. If hes literally Hitler apparently for the past 30 years + he'd probably be already in jail or broke by now as an American living in an overtly liberal country under Obama. Trump can't be Hitler because Hitler was driven purely on ideology letting it dictate his vision and actions. Trump is a capitalist and making America better, making it profit is what drives him. Never seen him as a bigot, a racist a sexist or anything the opposition use to slander him. Basically his single mindedness works for him he doesn't have it in him to put ideology above and before business and practicality. Ideology means nothing to him and he puts no value in it. and thats my view as a none American, none redneck, educated liberal individual. |
SpooksAug 16, 2016 11:40 PM
Aug 17, 2016 1:56 AM
#3
He's gotta be really careful saying this, because if he's trying to save his campaign, he better mean it. |
Aug 17, 2016 3:47 AM
#4
"I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally" - You mean the positive discrimination of blacks and minorites finally will be vanished? And finally whites with same or more points have same chance to go University? Killing a white man will be punished as hard as killing a black? |
Aug 17, 2016 3:59 AM
#5
Reject bigotry?.. Isn't he a bigot in the first place? What would he do, kick himself out? |
Aug 17, 2016 4:30 AM
#6
I imagine as he says this to try and pull in a few non-white voters he's winking toward all the people who've rallied behind him so far. in a statement posted on Facebook Oh, nevermind. This was just something written by a staffer and posted to try and smooth things over with a key demographic. |
Desert_GuyAug 17, 2016 11:34 AM
Aug 17, 2016 7:11 AM
#7
Dave8814 said: I doubt that was what he meant, he was giving this speech to a primarily black audience iirc from another article I read. Also, black men are punished more severely for the same compared to a white person . . . Not really interested in arguing over how each race is discriminated against however even I, who hates movements like BLM, wouldn't be silly enough to pretend that it's really white people that face more racism in America. Then again, I think trying to say that an entire race faces discrimination in general is retarded since it doesn't apply to everyone. For example, Affirmative Action is illegal in California, where I live, so saying that there is positive discrimination within the University's acceptance practices doesn't really apply in California, mind you that California is the largest state pop. wise within the country and makes up a massive chunk of the college student population. "I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally" - You mean the positive discrimination of blacks and minorites finally will be vanished? And finally whites with same or more points have same chance to go University? Killing a white man will be punished as hard as killing a black? |
Pirating_NinjaAug 17, 2016 7:20 AM
Aug 17, 2016 7:35 AM
#8
It's very dangerous to ignore context and key-words that clearly define a SUB-SET of people. If someone said that your opinion that murderers should be imprisoned (or executed) is refering to humans and therefore is a codeword to show your hate for ALL humans while calling you a misanthropist, you would declare that person to be an idiot who can't do anything but assume what you think, right? But when you say that Trump's statement, that among illegal immigrants there are many that are the worst among the worst of what the Mexicans have to offer and that among those are also rapist, is Trump's codeword for his supposed hate and contempt against any and ALL non-whites and any immigrants, then how are you not an idiot who does nothing other than assuming you understand perfectly the motives and inner workings of others? If you think that anyone with the opinion, that there are many bad people among a spcific group of immigrants, is an evil and bad bigot, then YOU are the bigot, because you are doing exactly what a bigot does! Just as racists say "all blacks are inferior" or such statements, you are saying "all people, who show criticism of any kind toward the way immigration is being currently done, are evil, racist, islamophobic, bigoted fascists". So how are you with your narrowminded and prejudiced views any better than the racists? In the end it comes down to the fact that you are, just like the other kinds of bigots, a pathetic collectivist who thinks that your own view on collectivism is a "better" collectivism than those of others. But in the end it's still nothing but generalisations and assuming the motives of others based on your personal confirmation bias. Whether you feel adressed by this or not, I'll leave it up to you, everyone! That aside people seem to be underestimating this speech of Trump. According to the LA Times daytracker poll Trump spiked from 2.5% black support (last week) up to an astonishing 14.1% black support (today)! A stunning 464% increase of black support just from a single speech! Keep in mind that Romney only had 6% black support in the 2012 election. |
Grey-ZoneAug 17, 2016 7:40 AM
Aug 17, 2016 11:10 AM
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Noraf46 said: I imagine as he says this to try and pull in a few non-white male voters he's winking toward all the people who've rallied behind him so far. in a statement posted on Facebook Oh, nevermind. This was just something written by a staffer and posted to try and smooth things over with a key demographic. I know right? He is Hitler 2.0, of course he only appeals to white men! FUCKING WHITE MALES!!! |
Aug 17, 2016 11:12 AM
#10
For someone who claims to reject bigotry he sure attracts a lot of bigots, just sayin'. |
Aug 17, 2016 11:34 AM
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clandestine said: For someone who claims to reject bigotry he sure attracts a lot of bigots, just sayin'. opposites attract yo |
Aug 17, 2016 11:36 AM
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Nico- said: Noraf46 said: I imagine as he says this to try and pull in a few non-white male voters he's winking toward all the people who've rallied behind him so far. in a statement posted on Facebook Oh, nevermind. This was just something written by a staffer and posted to try and smooth things over with a key demographic. I know right? He is Hitler 2.0, of course he only appeals to white men! FUCKING WHITE MALES!!! Sorry for triggering you. Spent too much time on r/TumblrInAction. I fixed my post. Forgot my mom likes him too. |
Aug 17, 2016 1:05 PM
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clandestine said: For someone who claims to reject bigotry he sure attracts a lot of bigots, just sayin'. Note how a 2-party system will naturally cause the "smart" bigots who don't want to "waste their vote" on both left and right going to one of the relevant parties each, often with the purpose to cancel out the bigots on the other "team". |
Grey-ZoneAug 17, 2016 1:09 PM
Aug 17, 2016 1:23 PM
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He's just pandering to black people, nothing to see here folks. Spooks said: If hes literally Hitler apparently for the past 30 years + he'd probably be already in jail or broke by now as an American living in an overtly liberal country under Obama. Trump can't be Hitler because Hitler was driven purely on ideology letting it dictate his vision and actions. Trump is a capitalist and making America better, making it profit is what drives him. Never seen him as a bigot, a racist a sexist or anything the opposition use to slander him. Basically his single mindedness works for him he doesn't have it in him to put ideology above and before business and practicality. Ideology means nothing to him and he puts no value in it. and thats my view as a none American, none redneck, educated liberal individual. He's not racist..he just wants to ban people based on their race. Silly media. |
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Aug 17, 2016 1:30 PM
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BRB-kun said: Reject bigotry?.. Isn't he a bigot in the first place? What would he do, kick himself out? I'm pretty sure that by 'American' he actually means only white americans as this would not include any non-white american (because this is trump, he will not stop bing racist at the drop of hat just like that). |
Aug 17, 2016 1:36 PM
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ashfrliebert said: He's just pandering to black people, nothing to see here folks. Don't you think all Presidential candidates have to pander to black people? He's not racist..he just wants to ban people based on their race. Silly media. |
Aug 17, 2016 1:39 PM
#17
If he didn't talk about Khizr Khans wife he would still be leading Clinton Sigh...I hope he leads her again |
Aug 17, 2016 1:50 PM
#18
But, how exactly is a bigot supposed to reject bigotry? |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Aug 17, 2016 1:52 PM
#19
Sure, some more than others though. Is Hitler racist? Yes. Is Trump racist? Yes. Does being racist make you literally Hitler? No. There's varying degrees on how political figures act on their racism and Hitler is definitely on the far extreme, but I've come to the realization that Trump can still be racist without being literally Hitler. And yes, so can his supporters. |
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Aug 17, 2016 2:06 PM
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Projection ashfrliebert said: Is Hitler racist? Yes. Is Trump racist? Yes. Does being racist make you literally Hitler? No. There's varying degrees on how political figures act on their racism and Hitler is definitely on the far extreme, but I've come to the realization that Trump can still be racist without being literally Hitler. And yes, so can his supporters. Again, projection. You are projecting your collectivism on others because the thought that someone judges people as individuals is "too far-fetched", so instead your confirmation bias behind your ingrained culprit-victim class-war ideology leads you to believe that Trump wanting to weed out bad immigrants from good ones is IMPOSSIBLE. Your brain will refuse the notion that anything more complex exists than open borders policy = good people, secured borders policy = bigoted, xenophobic, fascist racist. So in the end your brain only allows the options "Trump good" or "Trump racist". You refused "Trump good" so he automatically turns into a racist, sexist, xenophobic, everything-phobic, Putin-plant, nuke-shooting white-supremacist fascist. And to think all you had to do is accept that people are individuals and not collectives like bees... |
Aug 17, 2016 2:21 PM
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How many people in this thread have said something they genuinely believed in the moment, and later in life thought to themselves "maybe I don't really feel that way". How many of you have treated someone poorly, and later realized that you really want to treat everyone fairly from now on? Maybe you all forgot, but Donald Trump is a human, just like you. Maybe he said some extreme things you disagreed with. Maybe what he's saying not contradicts what he's said before. That doesn't mean that he isn't a man that can change. |
Aug 17, 2016 2:22 PM
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Comic_Sans said: But, how exactly is a bigot supposed to reject bigotry? by being bigoted towards bigotry while still being a bigot. #bigotception |
Aug 17, 2016 2:35 PM
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PoeticJustice said: Holy shitComic_Sans said: But, how exactly is a bigot supposed to reject bigotry? by being bigoted towards bigotry while still being a bigot. #bigotception Mind = blown |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Aug 17, 2016 2:37 PM
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The world needs a hitler right now, the jews have taken complete control and the muslims and blacks are breeding out of control. If anything Trump is too lenient. |
Aug 17, 2016 2:44 PM
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WAIT....why does he have to be elected president to reject bigotry? He can't already do that now?! |
Aug 17, 2016 3:12 PM
#26
JustALEX said: He can reject all he wants as a private citizen, liberal policies are still going to burn inner cities down.WAIT....why does he have to be elected president to reject bigotry? He can't already do that now?! @ Topic - As long as he means what he says and has plans to follow through on this, it's 100% spot on. Of course, people would rather have the crime rate soar through the roof than elect someone who will lower it but is offensive. |
Aug 17, 2016 3:16 PM
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Grey-Zone said: Again, projection. You are projecting your collectivism on others because the thought that someone judges people as individuals is "too far-fetched", so instead your confirmation bias behind your ingrained culprit-victim class-war ideology leads you to believe that Trump wanting to weed out bad immigrants from good ones is IMPOSSIBLE. Your brain will refuse the notion that anything more complex exists than open borders policy = good people, secured borders policy = bigoted, xenophobic, fascist racist. So in the end your brain only allows the options "Trump good" or "Trump racist". You refused "Trump good" so he automatically turns into a racist, sexist, xenophobic, everything-phobic, Putin-plant, nuke-shooting white-supremacist fascist. And to think all you had to do is accept that people are individuals and not collectives like bees... Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life - https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. If your stance on being racist(as Nico's quote put it) is "hating all muslims and black people and white people and being literally hitler and wanting to round up all races", you'd be hard pressed to find a single one in (US) politics that wasn't diagnosed with mental problems and asked to step down, or something. How many open racist has there been that were marginally well respected in politics history in the last hundred years of US history(but not Germany history. just kidding, love you Germany)? If even one honestly. Would you say there has never been one racist politician in the last hundred years? How many open racist do you know in your life, how many believe their doing wrong? It's not the immigrants fleeing for their life that's the problem, it's the "criminal" ones. It's not the do-good muslims that's the problem, just the terrorist ones with bombs. It's the culture's fault. Those muslims are just terrorist with bombs and mexicans are murders and rapist, but some, "I assume", are good people. And after a certain point, denying travel to people of *a certain religion and race* for the entire country looks like nothing but a bigot's act. It's for presumed safety, though, but 25% of three millions muslims at the highest commit crimes, from a (clearly) biased source and small sample size. Trump very well might not be a bigot, maybe he loves Muslims, that's just entirely besides the point. It doesn't matter honestly, he says bigot things and supports bigot ideas. I know plenty of Trump supporters who are okay people and he might be a okay person too, actually I will say he is an upstanding person, but his ideas aren't. I don't know who Human Trump is, just Politician Trump. I know he wants to stricten the immigration rights of an entire religion/race to impracticability, and you know what they say about ducks. ichii_1 said: The world needs a hitler right now, the jews have taken complete control and the muslims and blacks are breeding out of control. If anything Trump is too lenient. Not sure if trolling, or just being MAL. |
ashfrliebertAug 17, 2016 3:30 PM
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Aug 17, 2016 4:47 PM
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ashfrliebert said: Grey-Zone said: Again, projection. You are projecting your collectivism on others because the thought that someone judges people as individuals is "too far-fetched", so instead your confirmation bias behind your ingrained culprit-victim class-war ideology leads you to believe that Trump wanting to weed out bad immigrants from good ones is IMPOSSIBLE. Your brain will refuse the notion that anything more complex exists than open borders policy = good people, secured borders policy = bigoted, xenophobic, fascist racist. So in the end your brain only allows the options "Trump good" or "Trump racist". You refused "Trump good" so he automatically turns into a racist, sexist, xenophobic, everything-phobic, Putin-plant, nuke-shooting white-supremacist fascist. And to think all you had to do is accept that people are individuals and not collectives like bees... Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life - https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. If your stance on being racist(as Nico's quote put it) is "hating all muslims and black people and white people and being literally hitler and wanting to round up all races", you'd be hard pressed to find a single one in (US) politics that wasn't diagnosed with mental problems and asked to step down, or something. How many open racist has there been that were marginally well respected in politics history in the last hundred years of US history(but not Germany history. just kidding, love you Germany)? If even one honestly. Would you say there has never been one racist politician in the last hundred years? How many open racist do you know in your life, how many believe their doing wrong? It's not the immigrants fleeing for their life that's the problem, it's the "criminal" ones. It's not the do-good muslims that's the problem, just the terrorist ones with bombs. It's the culture's fault. Those muslims are just terrorist with bombs and mexicans are murders and rapist, but some, "I assume", are good people. And after a certain point, denying travel to people of *a certain religion and race* for the entire country looks like nothing but a bigot's act. It's for presumed safety, though, but 25% of three millions muslims at the highest commit crimes, from a (clearly) biased source and small sample size. Trump very well might not be a bigot, maybe he loves Muslims, that's just entirely besides the point. It doesn't matter honestly, he says bigot things and supports bigot ideas. I know plenty of Trump supporters who are okay people and he might be a okay person too, actually I will say he is an upstanding person, but his ideas aren't. I don't know who Human Trump is, just Politician Trump. I know he wants to stricten the immigration rights of an entire religion/race to impracticability, and you know what they say about ducks. You forgot the word "temporary". If it's a time-limited thing to get through bad times then some usually less acceptable terms should be OK. I mean what would happen in the worst case? Muslim tourists not coming for some time? Big deal, wait a few months or years and visit then or go to Europe instead. "Feelings" will be hurt? Who cares. Want to flee the miseries of the middle east? Go to Europe then, they welcome everyone so much that there are probably less people incoming than the total of the negotiated "refugee quota" total the EU nations have to fulfill. So who "suffers" from that temporary ban? Other than "feeling hurt" no one in any way really takes damage from it so why do you insist on it being "bigotry"? "Well something even worse may follow that" doesn't count because that's nothing but irrational fear. But beside that the notion has been dropped anyway, as much more importantly than "hurt feelings" it's impractical as the really evil and problematic sleeping-cell terrorists who this "temporary ban" is supposed to keep out in the first place could easily lie about their religion. So instead it has now become a temporary ban on immigration from "nations known for exporting terrorists". So now it's practical, based on nations and therefore, even if you stretch the definition even more, doesn't fit the claim of "bigotry" anymore, unless you think that Iranians and North Koreans should be treated like Germans when coming to the US. And note that it's STILL a temporary measure, i.e. it will be replaced once a new proper vetting system has been established. |
Aug 17, 2016 5:10 PM
#29
Just lost my vote tbqhwy. |
fuck everything and rumble |
Aug 17, 2016 8:22 PM
#30
Pirating_Ninja said: Thoughts? I think you should quote what he said directly, instead of quoting a biased opinion piece about it. Show some integrity, even if the people getting paid for their (unfortunately partisan) reporting aren't. |
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Aug 17, 2016 8:29 PM
#31
Hahahaha. . .if Trump is elected. i'm sure America would go on the isolationist policy 2 the whole world. and then Russia and China would stick together without American restraint. then what happens? ohhh shit. . .it is WWIII. then everyone would beg 4 American interference again to stabilize the region. just like how they interfere in the WWII. |
Mushoku Tensei is the best harem light novel out there and Rudeus is my man'. . . |
Aug 17, 2016 8:30 PM
#32
Isn't yahoo news a pretty far right website or at least populated by hardcore conservatives I never really understood the whole wall thing either since aside from the insanity of having a wall in the first place the U.S. gets far more immigrants, illegal and legal, from China or India than Mexico these days. If Trump was serious about having a Mexican American wall he should have campaigned in the 90s. |
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Aug 17, 2016 8:48 PM
#33
I seriously doubt Clinton or Trump will start WWIII Whoever thinks that is a complete moron. |
Aug 18, 2016 12:34 AM
#34
Wait Hitler was too far away from America to try anything. It was the Japanese that actually tried it on with America Germany never really got a chance before the end of the war bar fighting American troops on the continent. Only Japanese boots ever managed to reach America and then it was far north in the arctic. Hitler also had no intention of making nations purely white or Christian as he had planned all along to have other countries be independently run by Nazi officials stationed in those countries. In Africa his intention was to create a sub state run from Germany but still occupied by the Black community of Africa. He intended to use black Nazi officials to help run and smooth things over when the time came which it never did. He also sided with the Muslim countries on ideology a lot stating he feels closer and more kinship to the Muslim nations than other white Christians and would value them and their contribution to joining an alliance with Nazi Germany much like our modern EU. These people should go back to school before voting. If Trumps literally Hitler them im literally Hermann Goering. |
SpooksAug 18, 2016 12:37 AM
Aug 18, 2016 12:37 AM
#35
Dave8814 said: "I will fight to ensure that every American is treated equally, protected equally, and honored equally" - You mean the positive discrimination of blacks and minorites finally will be vanished? And finally whites with same or more points have same chance to go University? Killing a white man will be punished as hard as killing a black? *prays that this is what he means* |
Aug 18, 2016 1:34 AM
#36
Spooks said: In Africa his intention was to create a sub state run from Germany but still occupied by the Black community of Africa. He intended to use black Nazi officials to help run and smooth things over when the time came which it never did. What the hell? National Socialist, and black nazi officials? C'mon, Hitler doesn't give a shit on africa. He was againts the colonial system. He thought the WW I lost, because the Reich wanted colonies, and it was the biggest mistake. With the Iron pact they partition the world: III. Reich gives Europe, and soviet territories, Japan gives a part of Asia, the islands, and Australia, and Italia will rule Africa. |
Aug 18, 2016 1:39 AM
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Dave8814 said: What the hell? National Socialist, and black nazi officials? C'mon, Hitler doesn't give a shit on africa. He was againts the colonial system. He thought the WW I lost, because the Reich wanted colonies, and it was the biggest mistake. With the Iron pact they partition the world: III. Reich gives Europe, and soviet territories, Japan gives a part of Asia, the islands, and Australia, and Italia will rule Africa. What do you think Germany controlled Europe having allied ties and Nazi offices in those further countries in a similar vein to a union means. This outdated idea that Hitler went around expecting to white-ify every country. He expected mutual unions with many countries including Muslim and black nations. Yes black Nazi's and SS officers. The Free Arabian Legion was comprised of African and Muslim troopers. A number of blacks served in the Wehrmacht. The number of German blacks was low, but there were some instances where blacks were enlisted within Nazi organizations such as the Hitler Youth and later the Wehrmacht. In addition, there was an influx of foreign volunteers during the African campaign, which led to the existence of a number of blacks in the Wehrmacht and SS in such units as the Free Arabian Legion. |
SpooksAug 18, 2016 1:50 AM
Aug 18, 2016 3:10 AM
#38
Spooks said: Dave8814 said: What the hell? National Socialist, and black nazi officials? C'mon, Hitler doesn't give a shit on africa. He was againts the colonial system. He thought the WW I lost, because the Reich wanted colonies, and it was the biggest mistake. With the Iron pact they partition the world: III. Reich gives Europe, and soviet territories, Japan gives a part of Asia, the islands, and Australia, and Italia will rule Africa. What do you think Germany controlled Europe having allied ties and Nazi offices in those further countries in a similar vein to a union means. This outdated idea that Hitler went around expecting to white-ify every country. He expected mutual unions with many countries including Muslim and black nations. Yes black Nazi's and SS officers. The Free Arabian Legion was comprised of African and Muslim troopers. A number of blacks served in the Wehrmacht. The number of German blacks was low, but there were some instances where blacks were enlisted within Nazi organizations such as the Hitler Youth and later the Wehrmacht. In addition, there was an influx of foreign volunteers during the African campaign, which led to the existence of a number of blacks in the Wehrmacht and SS in such units as the Free Arabian Legion. Have you any link about the black SS besides of untrustable wikipedia? I knew about albanian SS, but it was only the last years when we were trouble. Really big trouble. |
Aug 18, 2016 6:16 AM
#39
Sounds just like some political Standard Phrases. Don't see what's so special about them, because regardless how seriously he would try to implement them, there will be always at least someone complaining about Inequality and/or Injustice. @Dave8814: The Picture is real, because it comes from the Federal Archive of Germany. You can find it if you search here and enter "farbiger Soldat" in the first Column with "Volltext" and confirm it with Enter. I suggest watching this Video to correct your wrong Image of Nazis being White Supremacists. Also, those People served the German Military (=Wehrmacht) and not the paramilitary Organization (=Schutzstaffel or SS). |
Aug 18, 2016 6:59 AM
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Aug 18, 2016 7:09 AM
#41
ichii_1 said: The world needs a hitler right now, the jews have taken complete control and the muslims and blacks are breeding out of control. If anything Trump is too lenient. And the crazy thing is, you're actually serious when you say this. Caelidesu said: I think you should quote what he said directly, instead of quoting a biased opinion piece about it. You can watch or listen to the full speech here. Admittedly, it was one of his better speeches. |
Aug 18, 2016 7:45 AM
#42
[quote=aikaflip message=47402188] ichii_1 said: The world needs a hitler right now, the jews have taken complete control and the muslims and blacks are breeding out of control. If anything Trump is too lenient. And the crazy thing is, you're actually serious when you say this. That's how you respect other people opinion? Noboru said: @Dave8814: The Picture is real, because it comes from the Federal Archive of Germany. You can find it if you search here and enter "farbiger Soldat" in the first Column with "Volltext" and confirm it with Enter. I suggest watching this Video to correct your wrong Image of Nazis being White Supremacists. Also, those People served the German Military (=Wehrmacht) and not the paramilitary Organization (=Schutzstaffel or SS). I know, these pics are real, it was easily to find, but it's only Wermacht, especially Africa Corps. That's why I asked about SS, it's more important. Black were under the ethnic laws, they shouldn't mix with people, etc, and using them cannon-fodder doesn't mean the collapse of the Image of Nazis being White Supremacists. Even jews could join the wermacht. |
Dave8814Aug 18, 2016 7:54 AM
Aug 18, 2016 9:31 AM
#43
BRB-kun said: Reject bigotry?.. Isn't he a bigot in the first place? What would he do, kick himself out? Do this, and he'd have to kick out the majority of his supporters, too |
Aug 18, 2016 11:08 AM
#44
Dave8814 said: *WehrmachtI know, these pics are real, it was easily to find, but it's only Wermacht, especially Africa Corps. That's why I asked about SS, it's more important. Black were under the ethnic laws, they shouldn't mix with people, etc, and using them cannon-fodder doesn't mean the collapse of the Image of Nazis being White Supremacists. Even jews could join the wermacht. Oh I thought you'd have founded it unbelievable that Blacks would serve in the German Army, nevermind then. I've only heard about a few Half-Jews like Emil Maurice who served as SS Members. Why not ask Jesse Owens how "badly" the Blacks have been treated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG9U1A-3rSI You forgot his Quote about the Chinese and Japanese, then: Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan *Führer, but you got the "ü" right. Just wanted to point out that it's not as easy as just stating Hitler = White Supremacist (if anything, I'd rather say Germanic Supremacist) as it wouldn't have been possible to control large Areas without the Help of other Ethnicities. The Nazi Leaders must know it better than the Pseudo Nazis, because unlike them, their IQ were above Average. But we're drifting too off-topic, so it's better to not give that much about People, who haven't got their History right, in Reference to the Tweet in #16. |
Aug 18, 2016 11:13 AM
#45
right wing views is not the same thing as bigotry bigotry is the intolerance of others' opinions. it's meaning has been warped to silence anyone with non-liberal views, however. |
Aug 18, 2016 11:55 AM
#46
don't worry he says this now, but he's gonna end up saying something else retarded 24 hours later he has an affinity for offending people even when it is pretty easy to stay clear of doing so waiting for the next news cycle |
Aug 18, 2016 12:06 PM
#47
Aug 18, 2016 12:16 PM
#48
JD2411 said: I couldn't have said it any betterright wing views is not the same thing as bigotry bigotry is the intolerance of others' opinions. it's meaning has been warped to silence anyone with non-liberal views, however. @Clebardman: I was just saying, because Nouns get generally capitalized in German, so "God", "Allah", "Führer" is equal to "Auto" ("Car"), "Energie" and "Kindergarten" in that Manner. Also, even if you also used Google to copy the Symbol as well, it would be still something to know about its Spelling ^^ |
Aug 18, 2016 12:51 PM
#49
JD2411 said: right wing views is not the same thing as bigotry bigotry is the intolerance of others' opinions. it's meaning has been warped to silence anyone with non-liberal views, however. I go on Twitter every day and most of the bigotry I see are from self-proclaimed "tolerant" liberals/feminists making sweeping generalizations even towards the groups they're "meant" to be tolerant to (women and Asians above all). Did you see Julie Bindel's latest tweets about how all men are rapists and should be shot and killed? Such lovely tolerance. |
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